Episode 9: Storing, Maintaining, and Servicing Your Mechanical Watch
In this episode, Matt and Cameron, joined by Bee Line Coffee's Nic Cuarta, discuss the best and worst methods for storing and caring for your mechanical, automatic, and complex watches. We discuss the do's and don'ts of watch winding machines, as well as when you should or should not use one and, why. Cameron then demonstrates what a service looks like on one of his own Weiss Caliber 1003 movements, doing a full dissasembly and showing the cleaning and lubrication points, as well as what a damaged Breitling movement looks like and what it will need in order to be serviced.
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Just found you guys. Two years after, and still thank you.
@110380michael
3 жыл бұрын
I found them about 10 days ago. I listen while I drive.
Great episode. I’m sure I’m not alone in saying a cheap watches episode 2 would be appreciated. Maybe some more Seiko options and Orient and Victorinox etc. Great show, guys.
@henrykincaid6821
6 жыл бұрын
jon cave Steinhart, Dan Henry, Farer, etc
This was a neat episode for me to watch, since this is literally what my father does every day. He just finished doing a complete service on a vintage Patek pocket watch, too him 2 weeks of work.
Just found this channel. Absolutely enjoyed it - thx much!
Keep it up guys! Awesome podcast here and I think there's a lot of potential for the future.
What a cool show I love it. At first I thought that they were too long but so interesting I am binge watching.
Great episode as always, so much information here an I would love a follow up on any thing
I have been wanting a high quality made in USA watch and after finding this podcast Weiss it is!
This watch podcast is so well organized and professionally setup (camera watchmaker setup)! Wow congratulations! Subscribed. I think best watch related channel out there.
I think a topic on water resistance would be cool, would be nice to see a watchmaker explain the differences between a water resistant watch and a 3 bar resistance watch, 5 bar, etc...
@blakslee720
6 жыл бұрын
I believe "bar" is just another unit/way of expressing water resistance. Normally we equate "bar" to PSI (at least in the USA). At "x" feet/meters deep in the ocean, there are "y" bars of pressure exerted on a watch and once you go past it, the pressure overpowers the seals etc in the watch and water gets inside.
@S3v3n13tt3r5
6 жыл бұрын
Yea but i would like to know from a watch makers perspective how they would design and what mechanisms are required for each rating. For example, i have a dive watch that is water resistant to 200m and it has a screw down crown.
@5034403
6 жыл бұрын
1 bar is equal to one one times the pressure of the earth’s atmosphere at sea level. 10 bar is 10x that pressure.
@UncleRichie101
4 жыл бұрын
To clarify. 😅 I believe S3V3N13TT3R5 (like myself) would love an explanation from a watch maker of what "mechanical changes" are needed in a watch design for it to achieve a higher water resistance (or pressure rating 😊👍), compared to one of lower rating. I.e. Does it have thicker gasket's, skrew on casing, ect? (Aka Mechanical changes in design.) Have a great day folk's, peace. 😁✌️
Great rpisode
Really enjoying this podcast. It has me saving up for a weiss. Speaking of, there has been a lot of “american made” vs. “assembled in america,” talk on forums such as watchuseek, and lots of people who don’t necessarily know what they are talking about sounding off about cameron and shinola, etc. I’d love to hear thoughts from the man himself on “American made” and the difficulties and successes he has had in making more (perhaps all?) of his watch parts made in the USA. I think you guys have grown into a nice dynamic, and i hope this is proving to be another great way to get Weiss Watches some more exposure. (I’m only at the beginning of this episode... forgive me if the topics are covered therin.
That’s where i recognize you!! your the smoking tire dude love those videos test drives on the AMG C43 which I own myself and right on man keep it up! Good shit!!
Excellent episode. You guys also mentioned talking about Shock and watches sometime in the future; would love to see an episode dedicated to how watch movements (and cases) manage shocks and impacts.
Thanks for the info! Nice work! Not sure if you answered this question already, but where should I service my mechanical watches? Should I go back to the manufacturer OR is a local watch shop good enough?
My next watch will definately be a Weiss. As soon as I sell my breitling chronograph or one of my guitars. I look forward to having an "modern" american watch. I have a 1950 elgin in good working order and a 1950 Omega 300T2 manual wind which is very accurate.
I'd love to see the full assembly of the movement including oiling. Maybe a followup episode?
I love Larry Chen!
Love the show, been binge watching episodes. Side thought, Cameron looks like Ashton Kutcher. Kinda sounds like him too.
wow wow good
That was another cool show. How about an all tourbillion show showcasing as many styles as you can? Does C&C even have any tourbillions they could loan you? Also how about a show on open work watches? I personally think seeing all the guts inside a watch is pretty interesting.
awesome video, is the movement you disassembled based on the 6497 mechanical movt, which was seen in earlier panerais and other watches. thanks
@thewatchmakersworkshop
6 жыл бұрын
That is correct.
Can you guys review a brand called tufina they have expensive complications very cheap, maybe cheap parts want to know what do you guys thinks. Great show by the way...
haha dang Matt, you're right. Genius move by Crown and Caliber "lending" you watches. But so jealous of your perpetual lol, not that you care (or should) but if I saw you somewhere with that on your wrist I'd point and say that is a cool watch
@WatchAndListenPodcast
6 жыл бұрын
Anoop Mathew haha thanks!
@Cameron, as a purist you'd also most likely disassemble the incabloc for cleaning? Some people do, some don't bother.
Really good stuff guys. This watch stuff is such a deep dark rabbit hole. Oddball question. If a client were to send in a Cal 1001 for service, would it be possible to swap to a Cal 1003 movement? I understand it's a completely different movement with different pieces, but since both are 42mm cases would the new 1003 movement essentially 'drop in' to the case of the 1001 movement? If it were possible would you be able to use the dial from the 1001 movement? Reason I'm asking as I love my 1001 movement but maybe down the road I'd love to have the 1003 movement without buying another watch.
@thewatchmakersworkshop
6 жыл бұрын
I designed the Weiss Caliber 1003 to fit the same dial, case, and hands as the Caliber 1001. Short answer is yes, but it will also require a new caseback with a new serial number so that there are no duplicate serial numbers.
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So my victorinox dive master 500 auto (bought used), which may have been made as far back as 2010 probably needs some oil. While the movement is exposed to open air, what measures to service centers take to keep dust etc from floating into the movement? PS: excellent episode, this was a joy to watch and I would love to see a 2.0 episode
@thewatchmakersworkshop
6 жыл бұрын
Hi Blakslee, The whole movement is taken apart, cleaned and then assembled again with fresh oils in the precise locations that need lubrication. It is the watchmakers job to make sure everything is clean prior to assembly and remains clean all the way through to sealing the case up for water resistance testing. Good training and practice is important for working clean, but we also have other things at our disposal to keep dust out of the watch. We use air filtration, positive airflow in assembly rooms, clean room standards, Rodico watchmaking putty, air and vacuum lines at the bench top, dust covers, finger cots, and we try to never touch internal parts with our fingers.
@blakslee720
6 жыл бұрын
Cameron Weiss Very interesting. Thank you!
Myths and misconceptions episodes!! =D
ways a movement breaks with examples of watches needing service for various reasons, including a bent hairspring (impact damage) damage to parts from running on dry lubricant, water damage, etc
OmG super
how often should quartz watches be serviced?
How many winds to get the watch going? Is 15-20 winds sufficient to get the watch going?
Question for the watch maker. Would you consider coating watch parts with cerakote ceramic based coating . Would this not work better than Rolexs Teflon coating they use on wheels and gears etc.This would prevent wear on parts and pieces and would require less oil.
@ryanpeck3377
3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure cerakote is way to thick of a coating for movement parts. There are better options that are going to have less friction (be slicker) and also be thin enough and tough enough to handle the wear. Such as NP3 or maybe TiN
Sometimes, in my head, I say "aha", "okay" exactly at the same time as Farah does and at that moment, my head expresses the same thought: "I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about but it´s interesting as fuck!" Made me laugh several times this episode.
@ 1:03:19 How do you prevent that there is no dust getting into that movement while maintaining it?
@jfdomega7938
6 жыл бұрын
Tuan Dao exactly what I was thinking. Unless you have a (clean) room. I have trouble keeping dust away putting on ipad and iPhone screen protectors. No matter how careful I am very small particles of dust get under the screen protector when applying it!
@1ungawa
6 жыл бұрын
He most likely has an intake fan near where he is working that sucks particles out of the air. It would be similar to something an electronics repair person would use.
This is the topic I've been waiting for you guys to touch on! I have a JDM Seiko (sgdz013) that is running slow and I'd like to get it serviced but have no idea where to take it. Who do I trust my baby with? It's got an oddball movement and I have a lot of concern local watchmakers won't want to risk it. Any advice would be really appreciated!
@WatchAndListenPodcast
6 жыл бұрын
Here you go! Seiko services their own watches in-house! www.seikowatches.com/support/customer/northamerica.html
@erickaminsky6489
6 жыл бұрын
WatchAndListenPodcast I really appreciate the reply. Here's my concern: what will the Seiko NA guys do when a JDM watch shows up for service? They only made 500 of these things and none were ever sold here. Am I over thinking it?
@LeeroyJNCOs
6 жыл бұрын
They will have it sent to Seiko-Japan for service.I had to do that with my SAGH003.
@5034403
6 жыл бұрын
Just had seiko usa service my SARG007, which i think is a jdm. The 6r15 movement is not only found in japanese domestic modules, however. It was returned too quickly to have been sent to japan, i think. (Though i did have to send it back in and ask for it to be regulated. Then i gave up and just regulated it myself....)
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Matt - What watch did you pick up?
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Hypothetically speaking of course: If you own a sub $1000 automatic movement watch, accidentally drop it from a few inches above your desk and then it doesn't run as well, what is the next step?
@thewatchmakersworkshop
6 жыл бұрын
A trip to the watchmaker is the next step. Could be something quick and easy to fix like a shifted shock absorbing jewel on the balance wheel, shifted dial, or tangled hairspring.
@S3v3n13tt3r5
6 жыл бұрын
My friends Bulova automatic stopped working and the watchmaker we went to said that it would be cheaper to just buy a new watch, so it depends on the circumstances.
How about a show where you solicit timepieces from audience members, meet them at a coffee shop and film your review of their timepiece...
@S3v3n13tt3r5
6 жыл бұрын
Watch enthusiasts in finger condoms getting coffee.
Here's my stupid question... Why not a lay down desk situation for watch work? Maybe a little unprofessional seeming but it'd save the shit out of your back.
With the ballence, as you said the two do the same job. But with the weighted one, surely it's more parts and there for cost more? Why is there two different ones that do the same job? Surely everyone using one would make more sense? Not educated in this, just curious.
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if I have a watch which I would have to move forward 20 days...I would wear other watches till I don't have to move it so far...
Or take a walk. LoL
Really? An hour-fifteen really just passed? I thought I was 25 minutes in when you said it has been an hour.
24:15 You know your joke is shit when you have to explain it to make people react...
Why does everyone accept the ridiculous length of time it takes to have a watch serviced. Rolex can take 2 months other luxury brands even longer. Would anyone accept dropping of your Mercedes at the dealership and waiting 2 to 3 weeks to be told that the service will be a certain price then waiting another 2 months to get the car back. The watch industry needs to come into the modern world.
If your automatic watch is the 13$ fngeen from china the weight is not going to be heavy enough to wind the watch by any hand movement. You'll just have to wind that thing yourself every single day! :-)