Recommends MVMT? Credibility gone...

As a lifelong car enthusiast I've been a longtime regular watcher of The Smoking Tire and occasional podcast listener during long drives and such(lately regular listener as well as I've found myself with a long daily commute). I've always had some appreciation for watches from an aesthetic angle but they never captured my interest in the same way cars do, to the point I was pretty much indifferent to the difference between quartz and mechanical movements. As Matt started talking about watches, I developed more of a passing interest in them and when he had Cameron Weiss on the podcast and I actually understood what a mechanical movement was, the appeal of wearing an intricate little machine on my wrist popped. Today I received my first automatic watch, a Seiko 5 similar to the one on the show(same movement I believe but more of a field watch style, an SNK803 if anyone cares) and love it. I'm afraid there will probably be more to come. So thank you Matt for introducing me to a world I never would have known I'm interested in and screw you for introducing me to another expensive hobby :).

No, no.... mvmt.? That’s crap! Do not spend your money on that. You can get a Seiko Snk809 for 100$ or less with an automatic movement and display back. Just do some research and you can find some great timepieces for not a lot of money.

@casualsuede

4 жыл бұрын

The snk809 is butt ugly as a fake pilot watch. I love how people like to shoehorn their favorite watch brands into the conversation. People buy watches based on their looks, not their functionality, no one looking for a mvmt will look at that watch. God is that so difficult to understand?

@iliovecaRS

3 жыл бұрын

casualsuede lmao relax grandpa it’s not that deep

@Nothingtoya

3 жыл бұрын

@@casualsuede You're probably right, gullible idiots buy fashion watches.

@pratyaymallik5347

3 жыл бұрын

@@casualsuede If you really want to know what's wrong with the design of fashion watches like mvmt or DW, explore a bit about bauhaus design ideology, these fashion brand are just using lazy designs and calling it "classic", you can check out TGV's video to know more

Love the show, thanks guys. In my opinion a “cheap watch” is something under 100$. Sub 1000$ isn’t really cheap. Maybe inexpensive but not cheap. There are a lot of great time pieces under 1000$. I love my Casio and Vostok just as much as my Omega and Oris.

@justinw2232

2 жыл бұрын

Casio DW5600 and Vostok 710 Scuba Dude for the win! Love my Vostok. ❤️

Seiko 5s are actually the best inexpensive starter watches.Should have included them in detail. Hope you do a Seiko special episode.

@WatchAndListenPodcast

6 жыл бұрын

yeah we are definitely going to do the all-seiko hour.

@voodoochild5150

6 жыл бұрын

This, they're a great watch for $60 new.

@55YAMAHARACER55

6 жыл бұрын

was just looking at getting a Seiko 5 for an EDC watch!

@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo

6 жыл бұрын

OMAR WAZIRI I believe orient is better for the same money, seiko 5s movement's are manufactured at seikos mayalsia plant with quality control issues. Entry level orients quality control is way better while there Auto movements are still japan made.

@bighands69

6 жыл бұрын

They are a fantastic watch for the price and there is nothing out there on the market like them. Now in saying that they are not a luxury watch and would not be as comfortable to wear as say a Rolex or JLC but then again what would you expect for $60. People who say Rolex are not worth it and go for a Seiko do not actually understand what most Rolexes are.

Good episode! I'd like to see this topic again for sure. If I were you guys, I'd do four more episodes on this topic. They would be: 1) All Seiko. Span the whole range. 2) Inexpensive watches part two: pieces from brands like Orient, Citizen, Tissot, Swatch, Casio, Seagull, Marathon, etc. 3) "Microbrand" watches! Either companies that use common movements, or in-house. Like: Squale, Steinhart, Laco, Gavox, Brew Watches, Monta, etc. 4) Just soviet watches, heavy emphasis on Raketa and Vostok. How to find them, what to look for, how to authenticate, information about the movements. Guest ideas: Mark from Long Island Watch, Mike and Kaz From the Two Broke Watch Snobs Podcast Love the podcast so far! Keep up the good work! Would love to see you guys go even more in depth on the affordable end, especially because there's so much there, and it's where most people start.

@k1lva4a

6 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree with Mr Carson King-Fournier !!!

@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo

6 жыл бұрын

Carson King-Fournier dam the horology geek budget check list is set in stone.....I hope matt sees your video idea list.

@shadow7037932

6 жыл бұрын

+1 for the Microbrands.

Find it incredible that Mat doesn't know Seikos budget line.. as a watch collector, my SKX007 sits proudly next to my Submariner and the Planet Ocean.

@OmRSamdani

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly bro.... this is turning me off...

@fredpinczuk7352

4 жыл бұрын

He barely knows anything about cars, never mind watches.

@BIG_Z_69

Жыл бұрын

Nerd.

10:15 to skip to the cheap watches

It’s funny watching wealthy guys try to talk about Seiko’s lol

@Consolol

6 жыл бұрын

Right, I can't believe Matt mistook the SKX for a turtle

@colbyperry3325

6 жыл бұрын

Consolol I was like wtf

@doeyjiaz4798

6 жыл бұрын

Check out Grand Seiko, thats why he talks about them 🙂 they make watches for absolutely everyone. Seiko, not Grand Seiko lol

@_plastikman

3 жыл бұрын

they dont really know what Seiko is

And the Vostok Amphibia was innovative as it got more water resistant the deeper the dive due to the acrylic crystal.

@erikbasil2787

4 жыл бұрын

Of course, the Vostok was not the only watch to do this, and not even the first. It is innovative, perhaps because of the size of the gaskets and the crown design, but not via the use of a plexiglass crystal and a compression / bayonet case back.

@felixfourcolor

4 жыл бұрын

@@erikbasil2787 Then who made it first?

@erikbasil2787

4 жыл бұрын

@@felixfourcolor I think EPSA, in the 1950's. Look up "super compressor watch".

@BIG_Z_69

Жыл бұрын

Nerd.

The Russian innovation is the compression seal flat ring backing that never looses water resistance when opening . Plus a 31 jewel movement in some Vostoks that are super sturdy for cheap . This podcast was a little disappointing .

@xgford94

3 жыл бұрын

Yep Vostok is a much bigger story

New watch cam is a game changer. Way to go! Model numbers for all would be great as well if available.

Another awesome episode! I finally jumped into watches due to Matt talking about them so much previously on TST podcast. I now scour eBay for deals on Seikos and generally any old junk that looks cool. Currently hyped on Ruhla and Soviet/Russian watches for budget oriented pieces. Thanks guys!

I was surprised not to see a Swatch Sistem51 in this episode. Bought one last year when in Geneva as my first step into a non-quartz watch after listening to the episode of The Smoking Tire podcast with Cameron Weiss as a guest. Now thanks to you guys I'm looking at buying an Omega Speedmaster..... Someday.

man, this reminds me of a simpler time. I miss you guys. 😔

I was somewhat interested until I saw that MVMT crap.... Seriously? Do you guys really think that is a recommendable watch?

@JamesSmith-rs4iu

6 жыл бұрын

you sound mad

@joseluismonterofernandez9261

6 жыл бұрын

Not mad, disappointed maybe. I really appreciate Matt and have been a follower for many years. I guess I was expecting more of an honest opinion idk.

@prccap

6 жыл бұрын

they are probably friends with the two ass hats that started that crappy company

@OmRSamdani

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah bro... The MVMT and the Seiko ignorance is turning me off... I am an enthusiast and I love all tiers of watches and like to keep informed. If you are someone who passingly thinks Seiko is an ok brand, you are not an enthusiast. They showed some iconic Seikos without knowing what those are... disappointed.

@Connor-kd3mv

5 жыл бұрын

He said it was a sponsor. They pay the people they sponsor.

Watch Cam looks great! Good job Matt, I appreciate all your free content on two of my favorite hobbies.

The new watch-cam looks great!

I bought a super cheap. like 10dollar casio digital watch in the style of the old 80s watch. bought it in japan. 'metal' band as well. totally love it. and tough as nails. that's the cheapest cool watch you could ever get. bought it as a joke and now i'm wearing it everyday. ref. A158WA

Love the seiko just wondering where you can find it

I love the fact that you had that vintage Seiko in this video. Inexpensive watches don't necessarily need to be new watches. Thanks for the video!

I'm here because I saw you on JRE lol. Im new in watch world but love my seikos lol

Thanks guys, this was very helpful! I recently picked up a Rival Carbon Renegade which is a full carbon body inexpensive piece. If you do another inexpensive episode I’d recommend it, I’ll even loan you mine

Love this , such a chill podcast 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

Awesome episode! I was also looking at Invicta watches. They have some automatic movements on Amazon for like a $100. Also the Seiko 5 would be nice to see as many people have already said.

I just got a tommy hilfiger brad watch,can you guys leave an opinion wether its decent or not,i think it looks cool but i have no idea about watches

I agree with a lot of the other comments here. Love the podcast so far, but next cheap watch episode should definitely include more Seikos. They make so many varieties of quality affordable watches.

"Got a nice Sony battery in there..." 🤣🤣🤣 that is fucking gold 🤣🤣

I looove this channel. Please never stop 🙏♥️

The new watch-cam is a huuuge improvement. It ~is~ glorious! As far as future episodes on Cheap Chronos, I think the Seiko 5 should deserve some talk. I don’t have one -been meaning to get one - but I understand they’re basically the Miata of watches. Personally I’m a big fan of the Citizen Eco-Drive and Seiko Solar styles, I feel they really lean on quartz’s strengths while offering something genuinely unique, and you get a lot of watch for the money. As a related episode sometime soon down the road, I’m really interested in knowing what to look for in vintage watches to get something solid and reliable and maybe even cool...for a much lower price point. So like the Russian and faceted Seiko but expanded into its own episode.

I love Timex watches there a lot of fun inexpensive and good looking. For a good leather strap on Timex they have their Waterbury line that uses the S.B Tanning Company Red Wing Leather straps that are great.

What do you think about the Seiko skx where people modify them? I'm all for it and one of those people but it would be interesting to hear your opinion.

how can you complement MVMT. they are over priced junk. other than that i like the channel

@skipper_mtb6644

6 жыл бұрын

David Haynes yeah, ovoid the fashion brands at all cost!!

@henrygrey285

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah! Quite disappointed to hear him propose those!!!

@Connor-kd3mv

5 жыл бұрын

They sponsored him. They pay the people they sponsor.

@flowremix

4 жыл бұрын

@@henrygrey285 it bums me out hell talk highly on mvmt but completely neglect citizen. SMH.

@SuperSpitfire1999

4 жыл бұрын

@@flowremix I agree citizen makes beautiful watches for prices that actually make sense for what you are getting. A citizen eco drive chronograph was my first watch and it's never skipped a beat and ran perfectly for 8 years so far. It was about 300 bucks

Awesome job Matt and Cameron. Keep it up.

15:42 I am very pleased with your new camera, too - Props! Thanks for the wicked interesting vids!

A revisit of cheap watches but only *used* watches would be a good episode. Also mention which ones are a nightmare to maintain vs less headaches in the used realm.

I loved the 'watch' episodes of the TST podcast. Really looking forward to watching (& listening) to this grow!!

Cheap watch suggestions: As mentioned in this podcast, the Seiko Turtles(SRP775, SRP777 etc). Luminox Atacamas. The Orient Bambino though I bought two and both broke as soon as the warranty expired. The various Citizen Eco-Drives, especially their higher end ones. Also love the new watch cam!

@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo

6 жыл бұрын

MickAv8r what exactly broke just curious?

@MickAv8r

6 жыл бұрын

Miguel Garcia both movements are toasted. They both just stopped working. Gorgeous watches, bought maybe 6 months apart. One arrived with a screwed up crown, was installing at an angle and had to go back under warranty immediately. Was fixed but the watch stopped working soon after the warranty expired maybe 13 months later? The other died I believe some time before the warranty ran out but I didn’t have time. Both are now derelicts in my watch case. You can wind them and one doesn’t move at all, the other will work for a very short period then bind and hang up. No point in spending any money on them. I just learned my lesson and avoid that brand altogether. Gorgeous designs, but the movements are complete shit.

@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo

6 жыл бұрын

MickAv8r dam that's crazy I know not every manufacture is perfect even the most reliable like toyota. But I didn't really expect that with the bambino from orient. Orient has better quality control then Seiko( who owns about half of orients stock), and unlike seikos watchs of the same price orients movements are still made in Japan. I had similar luck with the iconic skx007. Nobody believed me since the skx's reliability is that of a tank.....but it happened. Have you checked out seikos sarb line? What have you moved on to?

@MickAv8r

6 жыл бұрын

Miguel Garcia yeah I know they get good reviews but I gave up. I do love the Seiko Turtles, the SRP777 775 773 etc and the srpa Turtles etc. other than those I’m moving up to more serious watches ie I just picked up an Omega Speedy.

Cameron mentioned removing the battery when storing a quartz watch. I have an old Omega. Where to have it serviced?

@WatchAndListenPodcast

6 жыл бұрын

Assuming your Omega is a mechanical watch, as opposed to a quartz watch, you can go to an Omega Authorized Dealer near you, who will service the watch and literally make it like new. If you don't want it to be like new, you just want it mechanically serviced and you want to keep its original patina without polishing, you can go to a local watchmaker or watch repair shop, who should be able to service only the parts of the watch you want serviced.

I've bought 2 akribos xxiv watches and I like the look but not crazy about the quality of them but curious how you guys would see them. Also have an August Steiner dive watch that's about the same quality. Definitely interested in that Seiko though as something a little nicer than those

love the new watch cam, how about a good work watch, I'm a carpenter and currently use a momentum dive watch. great watch but looking for an upgrade and thinking about the victorinox inox titanium?

Love this show!

I had a Seagull st2505 movement watch that kept insane accurate time like +-5 seconds a day. Chinese mechanisms are usually crap but this was a beauty

I actually started with a Tissot which, while they have some expensive watches, have a great lower end!

Woah! Not only is the new watch cam INCREDIBLE, but a cheap watch podcast is exactly what I wanted from you guys!

Hey Matt! Just saw your video on the other channel! And this is awesome! Because besides Cars I also love watches man! Keep it up and best wishes!

Does anybody know the exact model of that cream-color Seiko Automatic at 18:00?

@planr5572

6 жыл бұрын

SARY055

Gentlemen, great show. My favorite "cheep Watch" is the BERTUCCI A-2T. It's a Swiss Movt, Titanium Case, with a Nato Strap. It's my Outdoors Watch. I wear it Mt Biking and Skiing, Rock Climbing and Hiking. It is hands down the Toughest Watch I own and at the price point of about $220 Im not afraid to beat the shit out of it.

Please have Jonathan Ward on, that would be amazing. I'm sure he's got a monster collection of oddities and customs.

@WatchAndListenPodcast

6 жыл бұрын

Yep he is on the list!

@montegofd3s

6 жыл бұрын

www.hodinkee.com/articles/talking-watches-with-jonathan-ward He has a great sit down with hodinkee if you are interested too.

Great podcast guys, some really nice watches for me to start getting into it

What is the name of the other seiko watch that he presented?

What’s the white dial seiko model called?

what is the model on the Seiko with the white face?

ahhh the new watch cam is so niceeee it makes me so happy

Great channel. What sort of Watch Cam have you got?

Another for the cheap brands to cover: Lorus(sub-brand of Seiko). $60-100 range. Have 2, not a hardcore watch guy, but intrigued by this new podcast by you guys.

Nice moves on the new watch cam. I have really enjoyed the show! I’d love to see another inexpensive watch episode, and I’d like to learn more about Tissot. I recently bought a $150 Tissot and have enjoyed it so far. Would love to learn more about them as a brand as well. Thanks and keep up the good work!

Does someone know what is the first showed Seiko here? It's stunning!

@robm425

5 жыл бұрын

Aleksander Wielki looks like a variation of the cocktail time except they don't have dates, its SARY055

What are your thoughts on Glycine watches? I have a blacked out Airman that I enjoy as a daily.

I recently bought a cheap Bering quartz watch that was under $200, and it looks and feels great.

I personally am a big fan of Skagens in this sort of price range. I think their bands are really cool and intriguing for this price point. Love the new watch cam. Keep up the great work

As a RS owner and watch guy great video, and i like your style.

Glad to see you got the camera sorted. Looking forward to seeing some Patek Grandmaster Chime under the camera. ;-)

Ordered my first watch today, a Seiko sgf206. Now I want that Seiko presage too!

I’d like to see you talk about Swatch watches, both automatic and quartz. Absolutely love the show!

@quackman

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, especially their relatively "cheap" platinum special edition.

Lovin' the show mates ! Cheap trick suggestions: Swatch varieties, Seiko 5 line, and the deep pool of affordable vintage out there.. Cheers

Watch cam is SOOO much better. Excited to see all the stuff you have in real detail. Really enjoy it so far.

a lazer pointer for cameron might be useful when pointing things out on watches rather than using a pen

Did someone say Accutron! I just bought a refurbished asymmetrical pillow shaped with 14k gold triangle inserts on opposite sides of the case face. I haven't seen any others of this style for sale in my search and the style of this one caught my eye. Gorgeous. The first time I heard about the Space views was last month and I knew instantly I wanted one.

I have a Swatch that I picked up on eBay, brand new, for about $60, it shows the time, day of the week, and number day, the movement is loud and the second hand never stops moving, even when you pull out the crown, and when pulling out the crown, what you’re adjusting is kinda random. Overall I like the watch for how it looks and because I prefer a silicone watch band. I’ll have to watch your Swatch podcast next, loving the content so far! (Also, my first watch was an older Pulsar Solar with a silicone band that liked to pop off when hiking that my grandparents picked up at a garage sale for a dollar, it lasted me from fifth grade to eighth grade)

awesome watch cam! what model is it?

love the podcasts. You should get more guests, specially someone from Seiko as you mentioned meeting people at the Grand Seiko boutique launch

Thank you Mr. Weiss, your chronograph trick worked on my Amazon Lige special, right before I was going to put in a ticket. you either just saved me looking like a fool, or cost me a free chinese watch!

Love the podcast! It'd be really cool if you guys could get a Ressence Type 3 in to talk about at some point!

The Jubilee bracelet for the SKX is very comfortable been wearing it for 3 years. The clasp is very solid better than a much more expensive tissot. The downside is it makes a sound when u wiggle it hard...

What do you think about Invicta watches?

How about an episode on just the tools of watch making and repair.

I enjoy learning about high end watches and your opinions about the history of horology as well as the industry as a whole and current trends.that being said, this podcast sounded like you guys are just trying out entry level watches for the first time. I would like to recommend that you do a bit more homework and revisit the subject of entry level cheap watches. There are so many quality tool watches and affordable reliable mechanical watches from established companies that you can avoid fashion watches completely next time. Vostok, Seiko, Orient, quartz Hamilton and quartz tissot, Casio, invicta,timex, etc. I do appreciate that you talk about the practical aspects of the watches and just a broad overview instead of an in depth review of each! I’ll keep watching but you lost me at the fashion brands, they are no better than the 20$ ones on the chinese websites but they cost hundreds of dollars, huge scam, should definitely discuss quality vs price comparison of entry level pieces. Thanks for bearing with me guys!

I started with a Boy London watch that my dad bought me. Man, that things was so awesome when I was 7 years old, wish I still had it. Anyone else remember those?

Will you guys be on Spotify soon?

Orient watches are really good too, owned by seiko

The Invicta 8926OB is a great cheap watch with a Seiko automatic movement. It's a Submariner homage, and when you put a nicer bracelet on it it looks like a much more expensive watch.

Keep it up guys, I love this channel. The subs will come.

What's the name of the white seijo?

@MrJamesDuffy

6 жыл бұрын

It looks like a SARY055. It could also be a SRP527 which is the international Presage version without a Kanji alternate day wheel.

First actual watch I ever bought was a gshock gstb400d-1a. I like the look of a g shock but I wanted an all stainless one without getting the larger more expensive ones. So far as a new watch owner I really like it, there's just something about that first one ☺️

Great episode guys! Might I add reviewing a steinhart watch next "cheap watch" episode? I think the ocean one is a good auto for a fair price. Keep it up!!!

cam is great! Future discussion, Modding & 24hr dials on mechs

For the quality control and swiss, to my understanding, Raketa and Vostok are popular brands that make movements that some swiss companies will use in their watches.

The Faceted crystal is amazing. I have a green and gold Orient Tri-Star with the exact same crystal...must be a 70's Japanese thing. I haven't come across that on any other watch. I know I'm late to the party, but great podcast Matt. I love watches and cars, my kind of content!

Regarding cheap, I'd want to see you guys talk vintage, what great deals can be had, how you can lose a lot, cover frankenwatches etc.

Spinnaker watches make for a great cheap automatic watch. I rock their overboard diver and one of their open heart ones.

Get a Tissot Visodate for the next cheap watches segment.

Haha 21:58 made me laugh 😂😂😂😂. Great show keep them coming.

I may be slightly different in that I started with an Omega Seamaster 300 being a total snob with no idea about watches. Only now am I appreciating all watches regardless of price.

My first watch was military style Swiss army watch that my aunt gave me when I was very little, maybe 9 years old. (I still have it) My second watch was a Seiko watch dress watch that my grandpa gave to me when I was 14. I wore it until it literally broke (my ex ruined it). The first watch I bought with my own money is a Seiko ssc387 that I bought of Amazon for 200. It's a quartz watch with a V175 movement from Japan. It is solar, and its a Chronograph, with a small date window. I like it because it's solar, so it should last quite a while without service and personally I like the looks. It's quite heavy for my small wrist tho. I daily a Samsung gear S3 since I work retail and it's nice to see my notifications without having to take my phone out. Currently saving my first Swiss made watch.

The new camera is really nice. Being able to adjust the contrast is great. How about a cheap midrange automatic watch episode $400-$800? Here's my cheapo watch list for me so far. Timex Expedition beige dial, Invicta S1 Rally red dial chrono, Nixon Unit SS acetate band, and today my Seiko SSA327 open heart with the blue dial shows up. They are all cheap but hey you gotta start somewhere. Next I'll be looking at midrange automatics if I like this Seiko. Hamilton Khaki maybe? Something like that. Great show. Please make more.

You guys should have a listing of the watches you talk about, with model numbers and such.

I have the same Vincero but with a blue face. While it looks great and has good weight to it the pushers feel a bit cheap. Still pretty good value for what is mainly a fashion watch. Thanks for the discount code TST! One of my favorites along my Suunto core. Now i'm in the market for my first automatic by means of an entry Seiko. Great episode, looking forward to more!!!

Hi, Been watching TheSmokingTire for a few years now and was delighted to see you two start a watch podcast. Like you a while ago Matt, I’ve only recently been fully immersed in the world of watches. I was wondering whether you guys would have an opinion on a good, beginner watch to get into. I’ve been looking at vintage Seikos, any thoughts on taking that route? I’m looking at around the £150-£200 mark (which is around $250-$300)

I'm just getting caught up on your videos and came across this cheap watch vid. Your comments on "wood" watches are correct if the wood used isn't stabilized. I use woods of many varieties for scales on my knives but it must be stabilized prior to machining of any sort. Stabilization is basically just putting the wood into a vacuum chamber with some sort of resin and impregnating it, then baking it to harden the resin. Once that is done it can be machined like any metal and it will be impervious to moisture of any kind. Anyway. great pod. I should have listened to Nick Shabaz when he warned "DO NOT GET INTO WATCHES", but alas I did not heed his warning.