Douglas Murray: 'Can a man be trans if he remains a man?'

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The support for Conservative MP Jamie Wallis after he came out as transgender should prompt a “respectful” conversation among Conservatives over the issue, one of the party’s LGBT leaders has said.
In his statement, Jamie Wallis said: “I’m trans. Or to be more accurate, I want to be. I’ve been diagnosed with gender dysphoria and I’ve felt this way since I was a very young child."
Douglas Murray asks: "If he still remains the man he is, will he still be referred to as trans?"
Activist Peter Tatchell says "he's a would-be trans person but he's not yet trans as he hasn't begun that process. I don't think he's yet a trans MP."
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  • @grimmlight4541
    @grimmlight45412 жыл бұрын

    Coming out as trans is not brave or courageous.

  • @nettietrees7238

    @nettietrees7238

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly - when literally everyone fawns over you sycophantically, it’s amazing more people aren’t doing it

  • @markstarmer3677

    @markstarmer3677

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Lee Petersson at last - a sane person commenting on here.

  • @mollybradshaw9336

    @mollybradshaw9336

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why are we supposed to celebrate the mental health issues of those who will ultimately govern us?

  • @hazelholmshaw9415

    @hazelholmshaw9415

    2 жыл бұрын

    He wants it every which way jus to be different and cause speculation about himself,ate not brave it's attention seeking.

  • @sugarbertie1143

    @sugarbertie1143

    2 жыл бұрын

    The times I've heard people who buy into this nonsense say 'oh, how brave and inspiring they are' and the rest of the tosh they spew out. Bravery is coming face to face with a life threatening situation, eg. on a battlefield or rescuing someone from a fire etc. The wokeists absolutely insult the meaning of the word. Its pathetic.

  • @MackerelCat
    @MackerelCat2 жыл бұрын

    A man comes out as trans but changes nothing about his life? What he’s really saying is he wants a special pass to disrespect women and get away with other lousy behaviour in public.

  • @mandysymons2142

    @mandysymons2142

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think he is a trans vestite

  • @omglmaojk2399

    @omglmaojk2399

    2 жыл бұрын

    If he grows out his hair and goes shopping your comment is still true

  • @BlackAdder665

    @BlackAdder665

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup, simple as that.

  • @mandysymons2142

    @mandysymons2142

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Macavity do i need to be a psychologist to have an opinion , its says i think , thats my opinion dude

  • @omglmaojk2399

    @omglmaojk2399

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Macavity No he's disrespecting women.

  • @nettietrees7238
    @nettietrees72382 жыл бұрын

    Can we just stop with the ‘wonderful and brave’ nonsense - when literally everyone applauds you for doing something, it no longer takes bravery to do it.

  • @Nasher1976PSN

    @Nasher1976PSN

    2 жыл бұрын

    ^this^

  • @Bookworm452

    @Bookworm452

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree. Brave are the children fighting cancer and having horrible treatments. Brave are the people living with abuse of any kind. You’re totally right

  • @nettietrees7238

    @nettietrees7238

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Bookworm452 yes. This. I see my daughter struggling with autism and she is brave in my eyes. Not this crap where some seedy bloke utters ‘I’m trans’ and everyone sings a bloody chorus of hallelujah for him.

  • @sugarbertie1143

    @sugarbertie1143

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately the cry of 'wonderful, brave, inspiring and courageous' is often spewed out for anyone who goes down the trans route. I once heard someone on TV say that its the 'bravest thing to do'. I've never heard such laughable sh*t in all my life!! 🤣🤣

  • @janeharrington1757

    @janeharrington1757

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sugarbertie1143 Yes it is very brave to put on a bit of lippy!

  • @frederickebene
    @frederickebene2 жыл бұрын

    I admit it. I identify as someone who thinks trans is a fallacy.

  • @jonathanclayton3918

    @jonathanclayton3918

    2 жыл бұрын

    Racist!!

  • @barrychuckle5565

    @barrychuckle5565

    2 жыл бұрын

    😆✔️

  • @roby72s

    @roby72s

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good news for you. You are not alone.

  • @sylviaduffin4812

    @sylviaduffin4812

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yesterday he was nobody ,today he is a hero!! Days it all. Needs a padded cell!

  • @soundseeker63

    @soundseeker63

    2 жыл бұрын

    You mean a phallusy...

  • @jamescross646
    @jamescross6462 жыл бұрын

    He is a man and will always be a man

  • @roby72s

    @roby72s

    2 жыл бұрын

    True.

  • @lucygoose2615

    @lucygoose2615

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Macavity That's not fair...you don't know how tall or how fat he is! 🤣

  • @apebass2215

    @apebass2215

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Macavity can you define the terms 'man' and 'woman'?

  • @paulyflyer8154
    @paulyflyer81542 жыл бұрын

    50 years ago this would have made a cracking Monty Python sketch.

  • @tinajones5641

    @tinajones5641

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Why do you want to be Loretta, Stan?" ........(lol)

  • @paulyflyer8154

    @paulyflyer8154

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tinajones5641 Symbolic of his struggle against reality 🤣

  • @tinajones5641

    @tinajones5641

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@paulyflyer8154 Exactly. One of my favourite scenes in that film and very relevant right now!

  • @hazelisaacs2201

    @hazelisaacs2201

    2 жыл бұрын

    🎶 He’s a Welsh MP and he’s OK His wife was home with his kids all day Had dodgy websites and he ran all ten Online hooking up with random men Blackmailed by rent boys when he wore a bra “Dazed and confused” one night he crashed his car. Fled the scene- for reasons you can guess, his life had turned into a big fat mess. Police catch up with him to cuff his hands But wait! Our Welsh MP announced “I’m trans!” He still presents just like an average bloke But all’s forgiven now the world’s gone woke. Nothing sticks, can’t touch him any more Trans are sacred and above the law. Forgot his kids, ignoring his poor wife His trans card keeps him out of jail for life. If a woman MP had have done the same We know exactly who would get the blame But blokes who trans can just ignore the rules Westminster takes us voters all for fools. 🎶

  • @tinajones5641

    @tinajones5641

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hazelisaacs2201 10/10 !😀

  • @jammybadger6514
    @jammybadger65142 жыл бұрын

    A man can never be a woman, he can cut off his bits and get bits put on. But in the end genetically he’s still a man and that they can’t change. If they want to live as a woman then all the power to them but don’t tell me you’re a woman because your not.

  • @angelaharvey2034

    @angelaharvey2034

    2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely.

  • @catwoman7462

    @catwoman7462

    2 жыл бұрын

    100% agree. I will never ever call a 'transwomen' "she" or "her".

  • @sueedwards9334

    @sueedwards9334

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can’t live as a woman if you’re a man!

  • @catwoman7462

    @catwoman7462

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Macavity Humans have a natural ability to recogise men and women, even if they're in costume. Even young children can tell the difference.

  • @elainekerslake6865

    @elainekerslake6865

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can spot a drag artist anytime. Deep voice. Adam's apple. Jaw bone size limb length and appalling wearer of wigs and women's clothes.

  • @jameslfc86
    @jameslfc862 жыл бұрын

    If I had £1 for every gender I’d have £2

  • @paulduncan789

    @paulduncan789

    2 жыл бұрын

    Careful with that one. They'll tell you that £2 is one end of a spectrum, from zero pence to two hundred pence.

  • @eylab1541

    @eylab1541

    Жыл бұрын

    Na... Theoretically you could have as many genders as you like. You are referring to the sexes. Of those, there's only two, mostly, except for a small minority of people born with intersex characteristics.

  • @grochford3477

    @grochford3477

    Жыл бұрын

    Both amusing.......and true

  • @MrShaunsk
    @MrShaunsk2 жыл бұрын

    We're being conned, and Tatchel is part of it. When this story really breaks, Tatchel will be nowhere to be seen.

  • @dorothysurry1368

    @dorothysurry1368

    2 жыл бұрын

    So agree.

  • @sueedwards9334

    @sueedwards9334

    2 жыл бұрын

    Would prefer never to see this person on TV again.

  • @dorothysurry1368

    @dorothysurry1368

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sueedwards9334 me too.

  • @rampakeshbharat1938
    @rampakeshbharat19382 жыл бұрын

    A fake Rolex is not a Rolex...simple...

  • @SuzyJarman

    @SuzyJarman

    2 жыл бұрын

    A wolf in sheep's clothing is, at the end if the day, a wolf.

  • @neilrafferty2097

    @neilrafferty2097

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly.What's the gender neutral version of BULLshit ?

  • @krisahnwilliams9797

    @krisahnwilliams9797

    Жыл бұрын

    well said

  • @arfurwitt6221
    @arfurwitt62212 жыл бұрын

    I have absolutely no sympathy for Jamie Wallis and think he is a disgrace. He is not brave or courageous and he outed himself because he had to as he was being blackmailed. He is not Trans but homosexual. He now claims he is a victim. He ran away from an accident and he is definitely too screwed up to fulfil his obligations to his constituents. How on earth did he get through the selection process to stand as a candidate? He should resign.

  • @sugarbertie1143

    @sugarbertie1143

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't think the words brave and courageous should even be considered here. It's a pathetic reaction from woke people to put some kind of positive slant on it all and try to make others feel guilty for not buying into a false victimhood. Its also a disgusting insult to women and womens rights. I agree he should resign he's not fit to be an MP.

  • @georgiemac1106

    @georgiemac1106

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jamie Wallace is a disgrace. He was seeking liaisons with men while married with children and admits fleeing the scene of a crash while he was intoxicated. He should be removed from his seat and potentially jailed. Why is he special?

  • @sonofednawelthorpe8609

    @sonofednawelthorpe8609

    2 жыл бұрын

    The accident didn’t involve anyone it was just a prang I think with a lamppost and I believe it was around the time of the assault. It’s up to his constituents to vote him in or out and it’s not got anything to do with you if you don’t live in the constituency. You vote for who you are entitled to vote for - and keep it to yourself.

  • @georgiemac1106

    @georgiemac1106

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sonofednawelthorpe8609 If we, the taxpayers, weren't paying this man's wages then maybe I'd agree but we do so I have a say and so does everyone else who pays tax. Aside from that, he appears to be an AGP who has abandoned his wife and children to pursue his fetish, joined a gay dating app and blamed his illegal behaviors on what happened due to his pursuit of illicit encounters. Where's the support for the innocent victims of this man's entitled behaviour? No one forced him to get married and have children when he knew he was gay.

  • @sonofednawelthorpe8609

    @sonofednawelthorpe8609

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@georgiemac1106 I also am a taxpayer. I have 1 year and 10 months to retirement and that will mark 50 years of hard graft, long hours and paying a shed load of tax. I’m a gay man and a Conservative voter for 43 years and my partner and I have been together 40 years. I think you’d be more outraged I’m sure if you paid high taxes and the government were using that money to pay £450 per person per night for illegal migrants to stay in Hilton Hotels when they are of the peaceful religion and come from a country that imprisons or kills you for who you are. These people are mainly of this opinion and don’t change their opinions on the boat over here. I’ve had to shell out for these people who hate me (and would do me harm) my entire working life whether they are here on benefits, refugees or through foreign aid. If this guy is a bad MP he should be criticised for that - that I entirely agree with you - heaven knows I mouth off about Labour MPs and their stupidity nearly every day. His inner turmoil probably comes from being a Catholic. He’s not gay or else he wouldn’t have been able to father children - he will be bi sexual I would have thought - that means he likes women too. Many people get divorced - even Catholics and even Presidents of the US. You can’t single him out for that. Many of these trans cases are married men and most do stay with their wives.

  • @barrychuckle5565
    @barrychuckle55652 жыл бұрын

    PLEASE tell me Douglas' show wasn't a one off. He's absolutely brilliant.

  • @nettietrees7238

    @nettietrees7238

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I love Douglas

  • @barrychuckle5565

    @barrychuckle5565

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love how he remained so reserved. He could have absolutely destroyed some of his guests, but he let them have their say.

  • @nettietrees7238

    @nettietrees7238

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@barrychuckle5565 yeah, he’s exceptionally clever and well articulated. I love listening to him

  • @flynnbob58phillips2

    @flynnbob58phillips2

    2 жыл бұрын

    He’s brilliant

  • @flynnbob58phillips2

    @flynnbob58phillips2

    2 жыл бұрын

    The guy is a numpty… wants both sides of whatever he wants to become I think it’s a bit strange

  • @seandalston
    @seandalston2 жыл бұрын

    No one can change their sex!

  • @Bookworm452

    @Bookworm452

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah!!!!!

  • @pizzaboy3946

    @pizzaboy3946

    2 жыл бұрын

    Strange that that point needs to be made nowadays.

  • @alexanderhinds-neunie8035

    @alexanderhinds-neunie8035

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. 100% agree

  • @marteumar8429

    @marteumar8429

    2 жыл бұрын

    This. Even the people who have surgeries to destroy their genital are still the sex they were born with.

  • @platonkarataev550

    @platonkarataev550

    Жыл бұрын

    They not changing their sex they are changing their gender. Difference.

  • @chrisf1600
    @chrisf16002 жыл бұрын

    "Obviously we all want to be respectful towards him". I don't. My respect is earned, not dished out to random weirdos. Shame and ridicule are powerful forces that have kept our societies in check for tens of thousands of years, but when people behave like lunatics with no apparent consequences I think we're on a dangerous path.

  • @chriscoffee9070

    @chriscoffee9070

    2 жыл бұрын

    Quite, that's essentially when I scrolled down to day, well said.

  • @marteumar8429

    @marteumar8429

    2 жыл бұрын

    I actually think it’s brilliant. That is the kind of mockery we need to do with wokies. He is a man, that’s how he was born that’s how he’ll gonna die. He’ll never be a woman. If he wanted to dress a skirt, put makeup on, and be called Suzie, he would still be a man. Well if wokes want us to pretend blokes on wigs are women, why not pretend blokes with no wigs are too? Isn’t “self identification” all that matters? This kind of situation is good to make people realize, we either go for “self identity” or we go with reality.

  • @claudiaxander

    @claudiaxander

    Жыл бұрын

    How come the church (child rape club) lasted so long?

  • @claudiaxander

    @claudiaxander

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marteumar8429 The Victorians would have locked you up in an asylum for the unladylike behaviour of having an opinion. But feel free to long for the good old days (your opinion not mine)

  • @eylab1541

    @eylab1541

    Жыл бұрын

    Well don't you sound like a nice guy.

  • @jaynegollings8093
    @jaynegollings80932 жыл бұрын

    I wonder what his wife thinks about her brave and courageous husband……..his children must be so proud.

  • @magdalenerose924

    @magdalenerose924

    2 жыл бұрын

    The stories shared by women who have been married to men with autogynephilia are really horrible.

  • @fld9266

    @fld9266

    8 ай бұрын

    @@magdalenerose924with terrible outcomes for some of their children

  • @ibuprofen303
    @ibuprofen3032 жыл бұрын

    Two highly intelligent men. Both with puzzled looks on their faces. Betrays the insanity of this whole thing.

  • @sonofednawelthorpe8609

    @sonofednawelthorpe8609

    2 жыл бұрын

    And these two are out gay men - as am I. I’m more with Douglas Murray on this as I’m on the political right. Jamie Wallis is a Tory and his stance on immigration is the more prevalent amongst the general population - more so than Peter Tatchells

  • @sueedwards9334

    @sueedwards9334

    2 жыл бұрын

    Intelligent? What’s the evidence? Their thinkng is completely twisted and bankrupt, leaving the wife and children right out of the equation.

  • @therainbowgulag.

    @therainbowgulag.

    2 жыл бұрын

    Proof that intelligence is overrated

  • @paintsilj

    @paintsilj

    2 жыл бұрын

    One intelligent man, Douglas the other is a manipulative idiot 🙄

  • @ellie698

    @ellie698

    2 жыл бұрын

    Peter Tatchell.... intelligent? Really?

  • @patriotunion7211
    @patriotunion72112 жыл бұрын

    Load of bollocks, literally!

  • @peterabram62
    @peterabram622 жыл бұрын

    Douglas can destroy a man with one lift of an eyebrow. lol. Please, more Douglas Murray shows.

  • @BlackAdder665

    @BlackAdder665

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha, true. Someone I don't want as an enemy.

  • @crowbar9566

    @crowbar9566

    2 жыл бұрын

    He's a national treasure.

  • @Fee_V

    @Fee_V

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep! I caught that too. 😂🤣

  • @soundseeker63

    @soundseeker63

    2 жыл бұрын

    His expressions of incredulity were literally making me 😆 during this interview! His face says what we are all thinking better than any words ever could!

  • @mdaddy775

    @mdaddy775

    Жыл бұрын

    No, lifting an eyebrow doesn't destroy anyone - making good arguments does and Douglas is incapable of that

  • @altudy
    @altudy2 жыл бұрын

    Peter Tatchell, choosing his words very carefully but nevertheless obediently toeing the trans line, while at the same time knowing full well that Jamie Wallace is using the 'stunning & brave' tactic to bury his past misdeeds. Once you're trans, a member of a protected group, you are beyond criticism.

  • @scotlandtheinsane3359

    @scotlandtheinsane3359

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, look at Caitlyn Jenner; transed himself and "magically" the manslaughter charge evaporated..

  • @lasttango7522

    @lasttango7522

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well articulated. You are correct.

  • @wrongthink3885

    @wrongthink3885

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bang on

  • @Right_Direction_

    @Right_Direction_

    10 ай бұрын

    Nail on the head.

  • @maryhook9478
    @maryhook94782 жыл бұрын

    Jumping on the latest "fad" bandwagon. Would prefer to have an MP who is more interested in his Constituent's problems than wallowing in his own problems.

  • @sirrathersplendid4825

    @sirrathersplendid4825

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can tell it’s a fad as it’s enough to ask to be called ‘he’, rather than the formulaic ‘he/him’.

  • @sammyw4970
    @sammyw49702 жыл бұрын

    More Douglas Murray shows please. Douglas never shies away from difficult questions and always challenges stupidity and hypocrisy. As for all this talk about Jamie Wallis he is no more trans than I am, he's being blackmailed and needs a cover story to set him up as a victim that is more palatable than the truth.

  • @davidchester429
    @davidchester4292 жыл бұрын

    I identify as a millionaire. When are these bigots going to cough up the cash?

  • @jemmajames6719
    @jemmajames67192 жыл бұрын

    He will always be a man, no matter what he does it’s a fact and no one can every tell me otherwise. I had no problem with people trying to be like the opposite sex whether in dress, medication and surgery, but this madness has to stop. You cannot biologically change sex, and to say otherwise is moronic and dangerous.

  • @jemmajames6719

    @jemmajames6719

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Macavity Why do you think? Men in women only spaces, numerous rapes have happened already, a member of parliament brought up a case were the hospital refused to accept at first that a woman had been raped on a woman’s ward they basically called the victim a liar, turns out a trans ‘woman’ was on the women’s ward. Women prison officers raped by trans ‘ women’ in prison. Trans ‘women’ in charge of girl guides, etc. The brainwashing of children into these believes, all dangerous to their mental and physical health. I don’t care what political party panders to all this it’s wrong.

  • @kimhaslam664
    @kimhaslam6642 жыл бұрын

    The only way for him to stay as he is is by gaslighting us into thinking that he’s been a woman in his head and misgendered all his life but he’s now outed himself to be the man he’s always wanted to be. Yes, it could be that ridiculous. The knots they tie themselves into are so convoluted. Is it any wonder no one else understands them? They don’t understand themselves.

  • @chrispennington9652

    @chrispennington9652

    2 жыл бұрын

    When he puts his lbdress on then he's trans into a woman in his head. But really he will always be a man. Rachel talks gobbledegook and always has done

  • @richardbaron2948
    @richardbaron29482 жыл бұрын

    Enough now, the Worlds gone mad. Can I identify as a squirrel, I like nuts.....

  • @christinalayzelle832

    @christinalayzelle832

    2 жыл бұрын

    I identify as a cat as I like to be stroked.

  • @elainekerslake6865

    @elainekerslake6865

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's a real nutty thing to say so......your in the club Mr Squirrel.

  • @maryfarrell9231

    @maryfarrell9231

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can I be a hedgehog, they are so cute?

  • @Mark-hu9tf
    @Mark-hu9tf2 жыл бұрын

    The eyebrow reactions from DM were cracking me up. They spoke a thousand words🤣🤣

  • @mikedee1771
    @mikedee17712 жыл бұрын

    Given the minute section of the population who are trans it is incredible how much media time is taken up debating this stuff.

  • @susangemmell9401

    @susangemmell9401

    2 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't agree more. I have tried to find out how many transgender people there are in this country and how much all this costs but have never found the answer.Baffles me why all these so-called minorities are deemed so much more important than the majority of the population. World's gone potty.

  • @tomsharpe9988

    @tomsharpe9988

    2 жыл бұрын

    The word your looking for is "Sinister"

  • @ellie698

    @ellie698

    2 жыл бұрын

    The BBC for one, are completely captured. Trans employees abound. Far more than in the general population. Hence the level of programming.

  • @lechenaultia5863

    @lechenaultia5863

    2 жыл бұрын

    Follow the money.

  • @ellie698

    @ellie698

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lechenaultia5863 Always

  • @between-paradise-and-hell
    @between-paradise-and-hell2 жыл бұрын

    Thatchell is all over the place on this one..

  • @SteelR4t

    @SteelR4t

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nothing new there then.

  • @EmmaLouise91

    @EmmaLouise91

    2 жыл бұрын

    He's a nut.

  • @stevecolley7745
    @stevecolley77452 жыл бұрын

    Had no idea Douglas has his own show on talk radio!!! Is this an ongoing thing or a one off? He's brilliant!

  • @carolecollins853

    @carolecollins853

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nor did I! Talk Radio don't seem to advertise this

  • @jaywilliams8147
    @jaywilliams81472 жыл бұрын

    Oh please, save us from Dystopia. We must also oppose discrimination against women e.g. women’s sport, language used to describe women, women’s sex-based rights to safe spaces (including prisons). Jamie Wallis is looking for the sympathy vote hoping that any unlawful actions get overlooked in the distraction. How stupid do MPs think we are?

  • @sueedwards9334

    @sueedwards9334

    2 жыл бұрын

    They of course think we are more stupid than them! Wrong!

  • @sugarbertie1143

    @sugarbertie1143

    2 жыл бұрын

    The way all this is insulting women and their rights is disgusting. Not enough women are speaking out against this insanity. Women need to show that they will not put up with this any longer.

  • @josephthibeault9919
    @josephthibeault9919 Жыл бұрын

    We live in an age determined to prove that there is no limit to insanity.

  • @AutoAlligator
    @AutoAlligator2 жыл бұрын

    So what is he 'transitioning' into?

  • @EmmaLouise91

    @EmmaLouise91

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nothing, he's just a man. Biologically male from the moment of his conception.

  • @JavaAndroid

    @JavaAndroid

    Жыл бұрын

    Oblivion.

  • @JohnSmith-nc6ul
    @JohnSmith-nc6ul2 жыл бұрын

    Surely one of most ludicrous conversations Tatchelle has had about this whole issue. The cognitive dissonance is extraordinary. Murray is well and truly grounded in reality

  • @apebass2215

    @apebass2215

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Macavity nice projection

  • @briancunningham594
    @briancunningham5942 жыл бұрын

    Mental gymnastics is required to keep this all afloat. Mind you don't injure yourself there Peter. Adults talking aload of old fanny and boll*x in my opinion. My pronouns are 'gorgeous/two kebabs ' BTW

  • @n0w3lly90
    @n0w3lly902 жыл бұрын

    I think this man is incredibly politicised (Tatchell), and is very much in the fold of identity politics. This massive strawman that they insist on about discrimination, hate speech, phobias, etc., I find incredibly tiresome now. And NO ONE has a right to not be offended. Sick of this Islamic style offence olympics that exists in political discourse. I don't care how much or whether you are offended. Sorry, just don't!

  • @BlackAdder665

    @BlackAdder665

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Islamic style offence olympics" . you ok if I borrow that one? :-D

  • @franciskeegan6577

    @franciskeegan6577

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bravo!!!

  • @n0w3lly90

    @n0w3lly90

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BlackAdder665 go ahead!

  • @kitmcselby
    @kitmcselby2 жыл бұрын

    Oh god please tell me Douglas is going to do more shows!!

  • @anthonyreed480
    @anthonyreed4802 жыл бұрын

    I love the utter derision on Douglas' face lol. He's contemptuous of this garbage, as we all are.

  • @artemisjuno
    @artemisjuno2 жыл бұрын

    Douglas Murray - a light in the darkness.

  • @sallyedwards7162
    @sallyedwards71622 жыл бұрын

    So are you saying Mr.T that all the trans abroad have got to come here and have op's freely on the already fleeced British tax payers money as well?

  • @lindastone6868

    @lindastone6868

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Left, happiest when they are spending your money!

  • @CASD147

    @CASD147

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like it

  • @coldbreeze6344
    @coldbreeze63442 жыл бұрын

    Its a mad mad mad mad world we live in now

  • @catwoman7462
    @catwoman74622 жыл бұрын

    The world today is like a mixture of Monty Python and South Park.

  • @SHR2002
    @SHR20022 жыл бұрын

    Imagine listening to this conversation 20 years ago! 😂😬

  • @unitedkingdomoffiveeyes9765

    @unitedkingdomoffiveeyes9765

    2 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't this kind of ceedy nonsense was taboo and very underground. Now it's infecting our children.

  • @sharifsalem
    @sharifsalem2 жыл бұрын

    Just shows that “trans” doesn’t really mean anything.

  • @kevingallen1678
    @kevingallen16782 жыл бұрын

    How does Douglas keep a straight face so well

  • @catenarycurve
    @catenarycurve2 жыл бұрын

    The ideology collapses upon any honest questioning.

  • @gerhard7323
    @gerhard73232 жыл бұрын

    If you extend the current logic of 'trans' in this instance then this makes perfect sense. Currently, being 'trans' means asking the world to accept something which it categorically knows not to be true ie usually that you're the opposite of what you were born as. Saying you're 'trans' whilst still remaining a fully intact male and still wishing to referred to as 'he' makes perfect sense in this Alice meets the Cheshire Cat context. 'Alice asked the Cheshire Cat, who was sitting in a tree, “What road do I take?” The cat asked, “Where do you want to go?” “I don’t know,” Alice answered. “Then,” said the cat, “it really doesn’t matter, does it? There's only a contradiction if we apply the pre-existing, traditional, rigidly defined norms, not if we apply the new 'trans' norm which basically says you can be whatever you yourself want to be on any given day and you're perfectly at liberty to completely redefine yourself tomorrow and the day after that and the day after that and so on. 'You' get to define (and redefine) what you are, nobody else ever does. Genius.

  • @jimcazador6057

    @jimcazador6057

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep saying being Trans is the same as saying 'I pretend to be'.

  • @gerhard7323

    @gerhard7323

    2 жыл бұрын

    @MacavityYou might not have noticed, but it seems to be preoccupying a lot of people.

  • @maryfarrell9231

    @maryfarrell9231

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Macavity Yes, if you are an MP surely your biggest concern should be helping your constituents deal with problems such as poor service from the NHS or the education system.

  • @gerhard7323

    @gerhard7323

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Macavity If this comes down to a clash of a perception of reality then I think that my grasp on it is probably somewhat less tenuous than yours I'm afraid. Would that you were right and this stuff wasn't so high up the mass media agenda, both 'liberal' and right. It's not an echo chamber. There are far more important things which we should be talking about on that I would agree. Identity politics more generally is a scourge designed to accentuate differences not heal them.

  • @joycegibbs5267
    @joycegibbs52672 жыл бұрын

    why do I have crushes on so many gay men? Douglas is a dreamboat and his intellect beyond heavenly.

  • @lucygoose2615

    @lucygoose2615

    2 жыл бұрын

    Peter Tachell is not bad looking, just shame about his misogyny

  • @boobrancher9941
    @boobrancher99412 жыл бұрын

    Douglas Murray with is own show, awesome!

  • @paulkelly1715
    @paulkelly17152 жыл бұрын

    Laugh me heads still wobbling

  • @littletree1343
    @littletree13432 жыл бұрын

    We all know its BS. No mention of his poor wife n kids. He sounds like a seedy human being to me.

  • @louiseparker1915
    @louiseparker19152 жыл бұрын

    Is he a "transwoman" or a "transman"? It's very confusing. No wonder so many people don't believe this nonsense!

  • @keyboarddancers7751
    @keyboarddancers77512 жыл бұрын

    Mr Murray's eyes should have their own show!🤣🤣

  • @kipsome45
    @kipsome452 жыл бұрын

    Douglas is looking a bit more well nourished here. Some great eyebrow action as well! 😆

  • @flynnbob58phillips2
    @flynnbob58phillips22 жыл бұрын

    Hit the nail on the head …. Becoming trans he might not get as much flack !

  • @derekoshaughnessy9809
    @derekoshaughnessy98092 жыл бұрын

    When I was a kid I always wanted to travel into the future, thank God it wasnt possible

  • @raymurphy9749

    @raymurphy9749

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same, now I want to travel into the past

  • @newtheory785
    @newtheory7852 жыл бұрын

    I'd say this sums up everything about the debate. It's basically a mental health thing and people like Tatchell tie themselves into knots trying to explain it.

  • @philipprice171
    @philipprice1712 жыл бұрын

    The 2 countries in Gulliver's travels were constantly at war over which end a boiled egg is opened. We have much to learn from them.

  • @julialeftwich7375
    @julialeftwich73752 жыл бұрын

    Douglas' facial expressions say it all :)

  • @ericboxer3053
    @ericboxer30532 жыл бұрын

    so disgusting

  • @brianclarke5372
    @brianclarke53722 жыл бұрын

    Are we getting confused about the word bravery, my definition is the people who join our forces and defend our nation not some who maybe seek fame.

  • @dl21633
    @dl21633 Жыл бұрын

    Even a child would understand this; no matter what you say, a circle cannot be a square and a square cannot be a circle! It is impossible to have a 'trans shape'!!!

  • @roywoodhouse5498
    @roywoodhouse54982 жыл бұрын

    Really feel for his wife and children .

  • @stuartwright8421
    @stuartwright84212 жыл бұрын

    Stunning & brave! Oooops no sorry:- Basket case!

  • @jonathandevereaux298
    @jonathandevereaux2982 жыл бұрын

    It's not brave to be trans in 2022. You immediately get more attention and support groups falling from the sky.

  • @lexilang5011
    @lexilang50117 ай бұрын

    Peter Tatchell is so incredibly creepy.

  • @flynnbob58phillips2
    @flynnbob58phillips22 жыл бұрын

    Douglas exceptional against a numpty

  • @David-uf8ex
    @David-uf8ex2 жыл бұрын

    Top marks for Douglas’s eye moves today 😎

  • @Cloudberry46
    @Cloudberry462 жыл бұрын

    If I declare myself to be disabled will I be eligible for disability benefits?

  • @ashleywebb2736
    @ashleywebb27368 ай бұрын

    Douglas's eyebrows on the ' he's incredibly brave' statement 😂😂😂

  • @PadreAlan67
    @PadreAlan672 жыл бұрын

    So, he's going to be a man who pretends to be a woman. Meets the definition of trans for me.

  • @johnyare8576
    @johnyare85762 жыл бұрын

    Tatchell used to be a good campaigner for Gay and other gender rights, however he totally loses any credibility when he politicises it.

  • @ameliarannestiggins2345

    @ameliarannestiggins2345

    2 жыл бұрын

    Stonewall are making a flipping fortune from this rubbish though. In that sense this 'Emperor's New Clothes' idiocy is clever. Who'd have thought we'd need a dicktest to see if an MP was worth voting for.

  • @politirel2
    @politirel22 жыл бұрын

    Beam me up Scotty.

  • @philpaxton2078
    @philpaxton20782 жыл бұрын

    Surely he/him/they/she etc could do this in his own time and not bore everybody senseless with what he thinks he is. Few people actually care, so long as they aren't affected. To say that people have more important things to think about at the moment is a massive understatement.

  • @flowersinherhair3930
    @flowersinherhair39302 жыл бұрын

    It's "a little bit confusing" because it is all INSANE RANTINGS.

  • @Extra_050
    @Extra_0502 жыл бұрын

    When Douglas Murray and Peter Tatchell are on the same(-ish) side on questioning how you can be trans if you don't "transition" or "transform" into anything, you know something has gone terribly wrong.

  • @craigpearson7578
    @craigpearson75782 жыл бұрын

    Has Douglas got his own show? He's a fucking legend

  • @mgkos

    @mgkos

    8 ай бұрын

    He writes for The Spectator, has a number of books including The Madness of Crowds & plenty of debates & interviews around including with Jordan Peterson. He’s regularly on Sky.

  • @craigpearson7578

    @craigpearson7578

    8 ай бұрын

    @@mgkos I've ordered the book ... thank you

  • @paularobert8208
    @paularobert82082 жыл бұрын

    The MP belongs to the group which believes that the more confusing an assertion is, the more ascendantly intelligent it is. You may be just too unevolved to comprehend it!

  • @liamh9814
    @liamh98142 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately, you cannot transition to be another sex no matter how much you want. You are what you is. People should be nice to you, but that's the end of their obligations to you.

  • @apebass2215

    @apebass2215

    2 жыл бұрын

    No one is obliged to be nice to strangers, merely tolerant.

  • @littlelion2544
    @littlelion2544 Жыл бұрын

    Oh, soooo brave. Stunning and brave. Bravery is men stepping up and being good, faithful, protective, endearing sons, husbands, and fathers.

  • @michellehudson6865
    @michellehudson68652 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant Douglas, your face says everything

  • @likklej8
    @likklej82 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Peter Tatchell for the clarification of the MPs case otherwise it becomes open for people to speculate unkindly.

  • @amandaburns4568
    @amandaburns45682 жыл бұрын

    im even more baffled😳

  • @stevehughes1510
    @stevehughes15102 жыл бұрын

    The insanity of this discussion is palpable.........this day and age is completely bereft of commonsense with these two discussing a fantasy, a farce, absolutely laughable. Thank God that I have my sanity.

  • @joycegibbs5267

    @joycegibbs5267

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think they're trying to give us breakdowns. The obsurdity just gets worse.

  • @yolandascholten2012
    @yolandascholten20122 жыл бұрын

    A trans that doesn’t trans is keeping his options open, he’s having his cake and eating it too. Virtual signalling these days gets you votes, mind I’m looking forward to the day when he turns up on the podium in a frock!

  • @stalks1413
    @stalks14132 жыл бұрын

    Just answer this? How can a "conservative" come out as liberal eh transgender? 🤔🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @pigeonpoo1823
    @pigeonpoo18232 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised he's not tried out for the women's Olympics team in something

  • @nicnocb6677

    @nicnocb6677

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's next year. He could get on most female teams that require upper body strength and knock those feeble females out the way and back to the kitchen. I thought we'd progressed but whilst women remain silent we will lose more and more rights. Woman adult human female

  • @unclem7816
    @unclem78162 жыл бұрын

    Basically he's faking for maximum sympathy.

  • @markbolton7431
    @markbolton74312 жыл бұрын

    After the "cynicism" comment - loved the shared smirk between them. Neither of these men are idiots.

  • @apebass2215

    @apebass2215

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yet only one is pretending men can be women.

  • @JimPlebeian
    @JimPlebeian2 жыл бұрын

    You don’t hear the word transvestite these days. But thats what he is..

  • @pogmothoin00001

    @pogmothoin00001

    11 ай бұрын

    that's what "trans" means to me - transvestite, ah the guid old days

  • @alvargas5095
    @alvargas50952 жыл бұрын

    Don't ask don't tell. Keep your sexual perversions private and don't try to normalize your depravity.

  • @uncled39
    @uncled394 ай бұрын

    I agree with most of what Tatchell says. I didn't think the day would ever come.

  • @gavindouglas3196
    @gavindouglas31962 жыл бұрын

    More shows please Douglas

  • @trustmetours57
    @trustmetours572 жыл бұрын

    Watching the left eat itself is extremely satisfying, Tatchell basically suggesting that Wallis isn't Trans enough is pure comedy gold.

  • @katiemann63
    @katiemann632 жыл бұрын

    So.... He's just an old fashioned transvestite then?

  • @odiedodieuk
    @odiedodieuk2 жыл бұрын

    This (along with that bloke who says he’s Korean) points the whole absurdity of the trans narrative. After seeing this interview I’m convinced it’s a troll lol

  • @petersinclair8620
    @petersinclair86202 жыл бұрын

    What a load of gonads ! All this fuss about a small minority of the population. They can call each other whatever they want as far as I'm concerned but don't expect me to comply. I person can be whoever they want to be, just get on with it and stop the bloody 'hoo ha' !

  • @talktv
    @talktv2 жыл бұрын

    Can a man be trans if he remains a man?

  • @nettietrees7238

    @nettietrees7238

    2 жыл бұрын

    No. It’s a ‘get out of jail free card’. I have no sympathy for him at all, and it wasn’t brave at all - he’s been caught doing some shady crap and now all of a sudden is ‘trans’ in the hope it will deflect. It’s cowardice.

  • @evieblessed

    @evieblessed

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is impossible to change from a man to a woman, physically impossible. Cutting off body parts and putting a dress on does not change one's sex. So, no, a man with a penis IS a man, a man who has his penis cut off is a man without a penis, not a woman.

  • @barrychuckle5565

    @barrychuckle5565

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's sad that we are having to have these utterly infantile conversations on a daily basis. A man can PRETEND to be a woman.

  • @christinalayzelle832

    @christinalayzelle832

    2 жыл бұрын

    Er...NO!

  • @elainekent3551

    @elainekent3551

    2 жыл бұрын

    NO FFS !!

  • @nancysexton4364
    @nancysexton43642 жыл бұрын

    Did you see WAPO's headline today about "pregnant people?" RIP women's movement. Self-proclaimed "feminists" have been done in by, of all things, biological males. And it's all self-inflicted. Now that's what I call irony.

  • @voodoochile333
    @voodoochile3332 жыл бұрын

    I'm thinking of going trans in 2025 for 2 years then going back to a man in 2027 then being a refrigerator in 2033

  • @truckerfromreno
    @truckerfromreno2 жыл бұрын

    The Birkenhead mantra is 'women and children first' - that means women not blokes with frocks on. You're going down with the ship with the rest of us.

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