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@iamryansanchez

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Yong

@Igor-mv5md

2 жыл бұрын

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@batesBeckham

2 жыл бұрын

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@jarotheboar8398

2 жыл бұрын

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Blizzard spent 5 years creating the most sophisticated and manipulative monetization system ever made, and then in the final couple weeks of development they ported over some Diablo 3 assets and called it a day.

@groudongamer3178

2 жыл бұрын

It's laughable

@ricardohoang8452

2 жыл бұрын

Don't worry they were even proud that this "Immortals" got 10M free downloads!

@zygo0

2 жыл бұрын

I mean manipulative sure, but sophisticated? You don’t need a whole lot of skill and artistic brilliance to set a drop rate to negative percentiles.

@DarkSnideoftheRainbow

2 жыл бұрын

@@zygo0 You'd be shocked at the insane amount of very carefully crafted psychological manipulation that goes into theses "games". You have to frustrate the player enough to want to buy the solution you offer but not enough that they quit entirely, you have to have several different types of currency to help obfuscate the real cost of micro-transactions to the player and most importantly you need to trick players into thinking they ever had a choice; that they're willingly spending their money and not just getting squeezed for every penny they're worth. There are literally dozens more of these tiny factors that need to be fine tuned to make a "good" monetization system.

@lucidd4103

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, remember the EA representative argument to defend this kind of monetization as promoting "creativity in the gaming industry", that's exactly the creativity she was talking about. The one about making the most abusive, and profitable monetization system possible, with the least effort from those companies like slapping the same assets and just rename their game.

Keep in mind you can't equip duplicate Legendary gems in your loadout so all 6 "main" gems have to be all different to actually use them all in a single loadout. Edit* Forgot to say Legendary

@robotical4793

2 жыл бұрын

That makes sense, how in the world can you equip 2 helmets at once? That's a fair mechanic to have.

@ricardohoang8452

2 жыл бұрын

Conclusion - why even giving ActiBlizz $500K for free? 🤔🙄

@The_Queen_Chrysalis

2 жыл бұрын

so this means you need like, EVERY gem, considering you give each piece more slots....fucking ridiculous.

@Wraiven22

2 жыл бұрын

@@robotical4793 the point isn't that that's necessarily wrong. It just is important to point out when you're calculating how expensive all of this is.

@BernardoPC117

2 жыл бұрын

Whales can sell and buy gems if they don't get what they want

It doesn't take decades as a FTP to max a character. It's impossible. The ammount of crests you get per month for free means at the current rate it would take centuries to max out a character. Then when you add inevitable power creep with "new gems" and so on it's straight up impossible. Not even an immortal could max out a character in Diablo immortal as a F2P.

@MarkDeSade100

2 жыл бұрын

Plus there's Awakening, which can ONLY be done by paying real money. You can't do it at all as a free player.

@Acroflame

Жыл бұрын

That’s why the game is called diablo immortal, you have to be immortal to finish it

I can just imagine Blizzards response: “Don’t you people have paying jobs?!”

@THEGREATMAX

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine a world where you could enter the Olympics and do this. Pay half a million dollars, start at the finish line. You are the world's greatest athlete

@joekickass8943

2 жыл бұрын

Do you guys not have jobs*

@maybemablemaples2144

2 жыл бұрын

Disgusting, how can you be so poor? -ActiBlizz drinking tiddy milk somewhere

@MarkDeSade100

2 жыл бұрын

More like, "Do you guys not have mansions and Swiss bank accounts?"

@AtlanteanUtopia

2 жыл бұрын

don't you guys have bitcoin wallets and have bought low and sold high?

2019: Go broke on microtransactions 2022: Only bank robbers allowed beyond this point

@MazeMaker4Life

2 жыл бұрын

I think you accidentally put a "9" there instead of a "5".

@ricardohoang8452

2 жыл бұрын

Come on! ActiBlizz wanna allow Bobby to buy another yacht one last time! 🤣

@majamystic256

2 жыл бұрын

i would rather play Payday 2

They can just easily change that percentage of the “rare item” to any percent they want, remember it’s a piece of digital code that they can manipulate at the end of the day.

@ExpandDong420

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they reduce the odds for F2P players to twist the knife just that little bit more

@thegrayyernaut

2 жыл бұрын

@@ExpandDong420 I feel like they can reduce the odds for spenders so they would spend more, and increase the odds for F2P players so they would feel "the rush" and end up spending.

@ExpandDong420

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegrayyernaut the lower odds have the same effect by making more spenders and therefore more sunk cost whales

@YoureSoCreezy

2 жыл бұрын

Completely true, they can pull the strings at any moment and make your $15k 5/5 gem worthless. I see a maxed out diablo character like I see NFTs: Worthless and a scam

@ExpandDong420

2 жыл бұрын

@@RandoLePerson it's probably handled server side as opposed to client side so you can't hack it without access to their server

I want everyone to keep in mind this is for the CURRENT set for items. once updates come about with new content you can bet your ass there going to be another tear/gear set waiting and your old set could be obsolete! So even if you do max out it'll be come worthless in a month or two as even max gear does not scale.

@Wowguy233

2 жыл бұрын

Bold of you to assume that they'll add content to it, especially after being banned in China (most lucrative mobile market in the world).

@gundown26

2 жыл бұрын

@@Wowguy233 Then you're really underestimating how greedy and persistent mobile gaming is.

@BMoser-bv6kn

2 жыл бұрын

There was a comment I read here on youtube that went more into the model it looks like they're using here. The basis being an old genre of browser games with scantily clad women who really like lingerie. For this kind of grotesque level of investment depth to succeed, the player can't feel like their investment is ever wasted. So you probably won't see the power ceiling being risen and rendering old money you've spent obsolete, like you see them do in a Granblue Fantasy or Final Fantasy Brave Exvius. He explained it as a series of parallel progression schemes. So today it's gems. Tomorrow, it could be charms. After that, it'll be some other thing to make the numbers go up. And so on. I'm unfortunately not versed in that specific kind of game so I need to research it more.. The one thing I'm absolutely sure they'll never do though: Make characters with stories and 3d models and voices and animations etc, that you can purchase. That costs money and effort, as opposed to selling a number to people. Effort is pure anathema to lazy lazy Blizzard.. This seems like extraordinarily early-market kind of poo from twenty years ago. That they're only able to make viable because they're Blizzard. Everyone else has long moved on from this kind of thing, as competition thinned out the greed and consumers actually want something in exchange for their money. For example, Azur Lane's profit model literally is nothing but cosmetic outfits, and they want everyone to be able to generally get every character. The field is a series of games meant to be played over a long period of time, like an MMO. Normies are only meant to buy the $5 a month subscription plan. Only the desperate, addicted or wealthy can afford imbibing raw gacha currency; that product is literally drugs. .... not even the worst one would sell you a bunch of dumb numbers for $500,000 though...

@carlycrays2831

2 жыл бұрын

Someone is gonna spend a million dollars on this game

@raksaKhan1337

2 жыл бұрын

@@Wowguy233 they just hire intern to update it it will not take much time anyway if blizz make good tool for game

House and lot: $370,000 A new sports car: $250,000 Maxing out your Diablo immortal Character...Priceless

Good for Belgium, labeling Diablo Immortal as a scam and banning it in their country, I wish it were banned in the U.S., this unregulated gambling in games makes me sick.

@WhirlyBeepBoops

2 жыл бұрын

It should be banned everywhere, this is the most predatory monetization I've ever seen. Maybe the courts should even make them give back the money people wasted on it, too.

@sytherwusky

2 жыл бұрын

i know for a fact that loot boxes are banned in S.korea and china

@crazyluigi6664

2 жыл бұрын

And The Netherlands! Don't forget about The Netherlands...

@sytherwusky

2 жыл бұрын

@@crazyluigi6664 I heard somewhere Australia is considering a ban or at the least restricting them with a 18+ raiting

@gravekeepersven82

2 жыл бұрын

The Germans ain't having none of it

“DO YOU GUYS NOT HAVE $500K?!”

Remember when you'd get a full game, with everything that could possibly be included in the game, for £30?

@4g3nt06

2 жыл бұрын

I miss those times.

@megacide84

2 жыл бұрын

I pine for the days of the sixth console generation. That last generation of quality, complete, single-player games.

@deanthomas7003

2 жыл бұрын

I too still remember.👍

@waliedsalam2487

2 жыл бұрын

I wish we could go back to that

@RelentlessOhiox

2 жыл бұрын

No.. not unless it was on sale or an older game. Not since I've been been alive in my 32 years at least

A moment of silence for those that will never known how it feels to live in a world where only full games existed.

EA: we are the worst gaming company Activision and Blizzard over the last few years: hold my beer

@tjenadonn6158

2 жыл бұрын

The entire gaming industry has just been passing that beer around for years. It's probably moldy by now.

@danner253

2 жыл бұрын

Ngl, EA is doing so much better these days (Too bad they'll never stop their EA sports microtransaction stuff) with good value EA Play and releasing games that show they have listened to some criticisms such as Respawn's Star Wars games. Being positive anyway, just seems things are being Uno reversed.

@Yasviele

2 жыл бұрын

I was looking around for controversial prices, Dead or alive 5 you had to spend like 2000$ to get all the costumes, for EA you would need to spend 50k to get the best Fifa team, in genshin impact you would need around 4000$ to pretty much get the featured character + a bunch of other character maxed and then we have blizzard going far and beyond any of that

@Solokid404

2 жыл бұрын

@@tjenadonn6158 LMAO true. Even some good companies have made iffy or bad decisions has well. That title of the worst isn't so clear and exclusive anymore if we really think about it.

@amandineamanda5630

2 жыл бұрын

@@danner253 Don't defend EA because they keep using bad methods and their good games that come out just fund their bad methods just as bad than activision.

You can buy a nice house for $500k. That’s so greedy it’s like a cartoon villain level of greedy.

@ZayaVII

2 жыл бұрын

Not in this housing market

@DBWave94

2 жыл бұрын

I picture a greasy big guy with in a green suit, with a bowler hat, and smoking a cigar while he counts his money lol

@deviljes666

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZayaVII with 500k us , i can buy a fucking castle where i live

@aralornwolf3140

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZayaVII , Depends on location...

It blows my mind that people actually fall into this trap. I literally didn't even download the game because I knew it would be something like this and I'm a person who spent thousands of hours playing Diablo 2.

@ryuuotaku35

2 жыл бұрын

That’s what gaming is about. It’s about playing, enjoying the game and having fun. Not gambling.

@diablocell

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. I've certainly spent more time playing diablo 2 than any other game, maybe even all other games combined. Even if you removed the gambling from immortal, the game is boring. Initially people said "there's a good game underneath it all and thats the kicker" no there isn't. Unless you like everything being on cooldown and auto attacking. Auto attack is boring. I get what they were going for with eliminating a "mana" type resource by using cooldowns and channeling. Its boring.

@Ubiquitous138

2 жыл бұрын

D2 was art- a masterpiece in comparison. It reflected and expanded on Diablo. D3 is like Warcraft meets Diablo and the next games are less about what kind of interesting journey can we Give the player - it’s, how much CAN WE get them to pay? Blizzard is trash. Just like EA now. Unfortunately people will still play and eventually pay.. That’s all that matters with most developers these days. Like blood in the water, the moment actually play and pay, they just sealed the fate of the franchise. The industry and these titles will never be the same.

@alfreddrewes9362

2 жыл бұрын

I played for maybe 2 hours. After that.. I got bored of it. I felt like I had seen everything the game had to offer, from a gameplay perspective. If I wanted to play a Diablo style game, I'm just going to play POE, Last Epoch, or D3

@morrisklunder519

2 жыл бұрын

I avoid 99% of free to play games because while i was broke that was all i played. I made me very aware that they are almost all like this to some degree. If I can't do everything through the game I wont play them any more.

What a time to be alive. Imagine all our kids will be gambling addicts in a few years unless the governments around the world start stepping in to address this. This kind of thing could legitimately create mass addiction around the world if left unchecked. These companies are running fronts disguised as video games for their illegal casinos.

@Rehteal

2 жыл бұрын

Or, you know, could be a parent and teach your kid the hazards an fallacies of gambling. It didn't take much for my parents to explain to me how gambling is designed to take your money and give you nothing back. Scratch tickets have a lot of "almost winners" to get people to keep trying. Hell, have them play chance-based strategy games. I don't trust a 70% chance to hit in XCOM, you think I'd trust the single-digit percents in gambling?

@FearPhoenix

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rehteal shit, anyone who lets their kids develop that way should be encouraged. Too many of us here, time to trim a few off. If they are still stupid enough to fall for it after seeing all this evidence, id say all the more power to them. You dont need anyone teaching you to not spend half a million on one character in one game

@nathanlevesque7812

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rehteal Imagine thinking you'll always know what they are playing or paying for...

@erikf5574

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathanlevesque7812 just ask them or pay attention?

@danielbattle7620

2 жыл бұрын

We live in a for profit society. While the government should be inherently good, the people that run it aren’t

Just imagine, this is the practice run for Diablo 4.

@Tnscla

2 жыл бұрын

Thats why im set with D2R and POE, at least until POE 2.0 releases, that will crush Diablo.

@tehbeernerd

2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: the Chinese version of Diablo 3 was a test run for Diablo Immortal’s monetization. And ironically now they may never get it. Not because the CCP thinks the monetization is beyond the pale, but because some guy at Netease posted no-no words about Xi.

@Tomoyo0827

2 жыл бұрын

@@tehbeernerd stop imagining things😂

@TheViralInfekT

2 жыл бұрын

You bet it is

@10191927

2 жыл бұрын

I’m waiting until they actually just monetize every aspect of the game, moving your character costs money, using your weapon costs money, that’s about the only things that have yet to be monetized in a video game.

I used that “Rift Simulator” calculator on the last video to calculate getting 100 5/5 legendary crests, I “spent” $347,650.00, so $500,000 seems a lot more plausible.

@geefee713

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. That's why it's a form of gambling...

@ryuuotaku35

2 жыл бұрын

That’s insane. :-O

@10191927

2 жыл бұрын

@@geefee713 - If not outright unregulated gambling, that’s pretty much what’s going on in the gaming industry.

@ricardohoang8452

2 жыл бұрын

Marth $500,000 and $347,650 are still more than $100,000 and definitely more than $16,000 a stupid random streamer gave to ActiBlizz

@Wraiven22

2 жыл бұрын

Did you pay attention to if any were duplicates? You can't equip duplicate gems either.

11:03 I think you hit the nail on the head here. They know this is egregious. That's the point. They're trying to lower the bar so far that in the future, even ludicrous expenses will be seen as relatively tame compared to this. $100 for a gem? Well, at least it's not as bad as Diablo Immortal!

@kajeralocse

2 жыл бұрын

This is true in terms of Blizzard playing with our psyche. They're preconditioning our minds so that other video game monetary schemes they throw at us in the future will become less evil, less egregious, less wtf moments thereby making us succumb to it subconsciously.

Blizzard’s official response to this situation: “Don’t you guys have $500k?!”

@typehere6689

2 жыл бұрын

That's a house. ...and a plane or two... ...and some cars.... You could probably go racing with that money.

@kolossis8283

Жыл бұрын

My brother in Christ, I can create a huge ass business here in Philippines with that kind of money💀 Pretty sure I can still afford other stuffs like cars, a house, full gaming pc set, and hell amounts of basic needs.

Friendly reminder that the company responsible for this monetization garbage is still being sued by the state of California for its abusive work culture. Don’t forget that as horrible as they are to us consumers, it pales in comparison to how they’re treating the artists making these games.

@MultiBoxingKid

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus, that still hasn’t finished? What’s taking so long for these fuckers to get sued?

@65firered

2 жыл бұрын

California likes to take their time with this sort of thing. Ubisoft and Riot are still ongoing as well

@FNLNFNLN

2 жыл бұрын

Friendly reminder that the interests and incentives of business owners are fundamentally opposed to the interests of workers and customers. The more hours for less pay they squeeze out of their workers, the more money they charge for cheaper, shittier products they sell to consumers, the higher their profits. The free market doesn't maximize efficiency, the free market is optimized to sell you the shittiest thing corporations can get away with at the highest price they can get away with, and to work you the longest hours they can legally get away with while paying you as little as they can legally get away with. (And then a just a bit longer for just a bit less than is legal, because they can get away with that as well).

@risaadyatmika7971

2 жыл бұрын

They need all the money obtained throgh this game to pay their lawyers......... well shit!

@KenBladehart

2 жыл бұрын

The game was made by NetEase but ok

At this point I'm no longer surprised by Activision's greed. They literally call what they're doing with this "whale hunting."

@nal101

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not whale hunting though. People gambled and they lost. Simple as that. I do not understand how anyone can think “I am a fool and my money has been taken away from me because I gambled…” you deserve it. Simple as that.

@jrfour2408

2 жыл бұрын

@@nal101 you clearly don't have any understanding of gambling addiction, addictive behaviour or the fact that these systems specifically target and exploit and encourage a lack of control.

@FMHikari

2 жыл бұрын

@@nal101 My fellow human, you do not understand how gambling addiction works.

@cord113

2 жыл бұрын

@@jrfour2408 They're also aimed at that tiny percentage of rich people who can afford to waste that kind of money, which ruins it for everyone else.

@65firered

2 жыл бұрын

@@nal101 Why bother with helping people with gambling addiction then? Might as well give up on them all, especially the children. Oh, did I not mention that bit? Children are also considered whales and are directly targeted for gambling.

"Do you guys not learn?" That's the nature of predatory, monetized games. Step 1: You start with a framework that's already milking you from your money. Step 2: You make it worse.

I know that predatory monetization practices have been around for years now, but the notion that one could spend half a motherfucking mill on single "free-to-play" video game is the absolute pinnacle of the whole deal. Let it sink in that this is a thing that exists now in the gaming industry.

Several of us mentioned this 2 weeks ago. 100k was a very lowball estimate. Even 500k is low. It doesn’t take into account the fact that returns dismiss as you add your copies to your personal “completed” list. Your chances of getting “a gem” are the same, but your chances of getting THE gem you need fade to zero as you fill your list. The real number, as we’ve been saying, is closer to $.1.1M US.

@basildraws

2 жыл бұрын

* correction: returns diminish

@thomaslacroix6011

2 жыл бұрын

Not that I actually defend this shit, but wouldn't whales be able to trade duplicate gems on the marketplace and get the one they want there somewhat? Just curious.

@aralornwolf3140

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomaslacroix6011 , Yes they could do that... however not all gems will be rewarded equally... so at least one or two gems would be worth a lot more due to being rare compared to the other 5 star gems while one or two would be worth much less as they drop more often.

@basildraws

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomaslacroix6011 that’s a great point, great question. I don’t have any idea how the in-game marketplace works, but judging by Blizzard track record alone, I would imagine they will mess with the economy to a degree that works for THEM, not the players. But that’s just cynicism on my part, no data.

@jamesb7205

2 жыл бұрын

100k+ is still 500k+

You know, I actually felt kinda bad for them when during the Diablo immortal someone went up to the mic and asked "Is this some kind of out of season April fools joke". But now that moment fills me with great joy

Not only should we blame blizzard, but also the ppl who are actually throwing their money to max out their gear. It because of them that blizzard(or any company) will keep doing this. All they need is a few hundred ppl to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep monetizing their games.

At this point it’s just a question of how much further DI can fall and at what point we can call it one of the worst games in history

@tjenadonn6158

2 жыл бұрын

At least ET for the Atari 2600 was a complete game that you only paid for once.

@nihilegojelly7747

2 жыл бұрын

And Sony fanboys are going to use it to harass Microsoft and those who just play their games

@austinp3979

2 жыл бұрын

@@nihilegojelly7747 can’t say I’ve seen anyone mention the console wars, especially since it has nothing to do with the subject…everyone agrees this game is straight crap

@SBaby

2 жыл бұрын

@@nihilegojelly7747 Kind of hard to harass a console manufacturer, since it isn't on consoles.

@noahbrecker1129

2 жыл бұрын

hopefully very low, nobody wants to pay half a million dollars to get the best gear fr like wtf,

I wish I could quit my honest job, and just have these whales pay me to tell them "oh yeah, your video game character has so much stats! You win! Look how good at video games you are!" PROTIP: Do not share your personal information in a KZread comment, even as part of a joke.

@OniByFame

2 жыл бұрын

Is there a job like that? I think I would excel in that 😂

@cmdraftbrn

2 жыл бұрын

depending on where you're at 38k is livable. but its location, location, location.

@AnimuncuIus

2 жыл бұрын

@@cmdraftbrn I genuinely want to know where in the country 38,000$ is sufficient for a mortgage, car payment, utilities, internet, and necessities.

@Seydaschu

2 жыл бұрын

@@cmdraftbrn imagine being able to pick where you live. ...while also having a job that cannot be done from home

@majamystic256

2 жыл бұрын

that's way more than I make a year

you know what you should do? try this with the simulator: write down what kind of 5 out of 5 gem you first get and go until you get 6 of that one kind of gem and see how much it cost you. the estimation is based on the idea that every gem gotten is one you need. so 500k is super low balling it. and even if you literally played forever if you don't spend money you can't awaken or resonate which ever needs the cash shop only item. meaning you literally can't max out as free to play. the only way to max out is if you pay money. and the only way to max out within your life time is to spend too much money on slot attempts. and if you want a bank account after playing you only get gems from the trade house which means in the end the best thing for a whale to do is wait for other whales to mine gems and pay next to nothing for it. no playing, just buying and selling. blizzard even solved the bot problem since you can't trade games gotten for free. meaning the only people mining for 5 out of 5 gems are real paying people and not bots. no longer is it pay to win. it is pay to try. because no one is winning, not even the whales anymore.

“Do you guys not have houses to sell?”

We’re gonna reach a point where mobile games can only be played by billionaires. I just hope video games as a whole does not reach a point where every game can only be played by billionaires. 500k? How long before it takes 1 million dollars to max out a character? The more they keep pushing the envelope on micro transactions which are macro transactions in disguise, the more massive the next video game crash will be. If people actually go bankrupt over Diablo immortal i hope this leads to people demanding regulations on micro transactions in video games. If it happened with loot boxes it will happen with regular micro transactions. No one should go bankrupt over a video game. Giving the cost of living is on the rise, it’s by miles the worst time for a video game with such extreme monetisation to be released. Another video game crash is around the corner and corporate greed is bringing it closer.

@BernardoPC117

2 жыл бұрын

There are plenty of mobiles games that are already much worst, I just made some quick math on Summoners War, a mobile game I used to play, in that game you need $685k for just one of the things you need to max your account, but for everything there is in that game it will be way way more.

@TheGhostFart

2 жыл бұрын

@@BernardoPC117 500k is on the low end on a good day, DI can easily cost you over a million to max a single char if you were paying attention

@neiabaraja2044

2 жыл бұрын

@Zero Bullet's That guy most likely doesn't even know about this. Blizzard just shows him the numbers and he is happy he can swim in a pool full of money at the end of the day. Not that he would care either way.

@BernardoPC117

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGhostFart Like I said 1 million or 10 million still nothing compared to a lot of mobile games out there, the point is mobile developers make it so you can ALWAYS spend more money on their games, even if you manage to max out everything they will release an update next month with content that allows you to spend another million, they design this games so you are NEVER done. Look it's good that hardcore gamers complain about this things so that this shitty mechanics don't grow on hardcore games and maybe ban them all together. I just think is funny that people are so amazed about it when mobile developers have done much worst for like a decade the only reason they get a free pass is because they are not on the eye of hardcore gamers.

@Manic_Panic

2 жыл бұрын

The thing is, even if I was a billionaire, I would not be touching this pos with a ten foot pole. Also, don't expect another video game crash. If it was to fall, it would have fallen at the end of the PS3 and 360 generation. The future of gaming is in middleware or indie games... and emulation.

Honestly, I blame Star Citizen for this. That was the dawn of companies realizing there are whale players out there willing to spend tens of thousands of dollars on a video game. I followed that Kickstarter and was blown away by how many people were backing at the multi-thousand dollar level just for a digital spaceship in a game that may or may not ever be completed. Monetization teams took note of that and ever since, it's been them finding ways to bleed players dry and pocket that whale cash.

@bobbobson9952

2 жыл бұрын

I still hate how people hype up that scam

@Irrashaimase1

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobbobson9952 but SPAAAAAAACE!

@bobbobson9952

2 жыл бұрын

@H P There's no actual game dude it's a bunch of useless fetch bs, they've been milking the dumbasses who funded this game for so many years they have no other choice than to support the fraction of promises that were actually delivered on. That incredible storyline that's never going to release has those clowns strung along for a good while now so they are probably about to drop some hot new empty promises for people to invest in. I'm not even talking about the ship prices yet. These scammers received 400mil and made some half assed tech demo. Jesus christ the best games in the world don't even cost half that much to make and those are made by actual talented people.

@N4CR5

2 жыл бұрын

Horse Armour is where it all started, Scam Citizen just expanded the research of how gullible a user base can be. They're 'only' 42k, then you have scam atlas with 6 figure ships then Diablo Immoral standing above them.

@antigonus1826

2 жыл бұрын

@H P Yeah. But so far though it’s pretty fucking disappointing

The level of predatory gambling mechanics in P2W games keeps increasing because foolish people exist and will spend $10K+ on a shitty mobile game. Remember that Silicon Valley employee who spent over $30K on a mobile game? I'll bet he's not even the worse among this bunch.

@typehere6689

Жыл бұрын

For that price, a strong PC and a good game library can be had.

It’s all a blessing in disguise. Shown the true motives and it makes me happy to know where things stand. I won’t support them at all

Anyone charging this much for MTX better be living in a Bond villain base.

@gabrielreid4950

2 жыл бұрын

I'm 100% convinced that Activision owns some secret island base with laser sharks to retreat to if people protest against them

@aeonremnant

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProcyonDei Yike. That’s one fuck of a crossover.

@dantethewanderer4989

2 жыл бұрын

Bobby Kotick DOES have like two yachts he could booby trap against any secret agents looking for info

@aeonremnant

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProcyonDei Idk man, Bobby gotta have some kind of actually menacing Inator somewhere. We’re just in the cursed timeline where Doof isn’t actually a good father, rather became a determined scumbag. “BEHOLD, MY DIABLO IMMORTAL-INATOR”

@TheGhostFart

2 жыл бұрын

they have an evil megacorp hq instead

The devs could literally cut prices to 1/10th, multiply the whatever BS currency is called that you get for real world purchases by 10, make it so you only need a single eternal legendary crest to get the "best" rift, AND multiply chances of getting a 5/5 star by another 10 so that it would be a 1/200 chance instead of 1/2000, and it would STILL cost just under the the price of a full priced game to kit out a single character (when often games like this it is fun to try out multiple options). This is ridiculous to an extreme. I loved Diablo 1, 2 and 3, but hard pass on this offering.

@fmeraz37

2 жыл бұрын

Even if they cut prices by 1/10th, you'd still be spending over $5-million based on the real math that you need nearly 3500 5-star gems at $15,000 a pop in order to max Rank 10 all 36 of your 5-star gems, which all require 73 duplicates of themselves out of a possible pool of 9 different 5-star gems currently in the game.

@theonlythingihavetosayis9333

2 жыл бұрын

@Skuash ....yes...

I can't believe the amount of delusion in this game's community, I was in an Immortal whale's stream, he and his chat were talking about this story, and they were all saying things like "People are just brainwashed by Asmongold, you don't need 36 5-star gems, you only need 16, awakened gems don't need to be 5 stars! It's not 500,000$ to max out, they're full of shit, it's only 80-100k." etc etc. Like they felt it was a huge win that someone estimated 500k to max, while they thought it was *only* ~100k, like that meant nothing was wrong with the game and they were right all along. People are fuckin clowns man, paying 50,000-100,000 just to be able to be good at a video game, sad af.

I love how there is an ad for Diablo Immortal right before the video starts lol

I find it great that people are still looking at the game. I saw the original 'april fools' line and didn't bother learning more. Then I was seeing the price estimates and laughed. PEople still played the game, people have been dumping thousands into it, and you're only telling them they can do worse. I stopped playing blizzard games a few years ago. I'll stick to Rimworld, Raft, and DeepRockGalactic

@Ebani

2 жыл бұрын

Ikr, it's almost like they don't know what they're doing, almost.

You could have: A single max-level character in a mobile video game. OR - A Yacht OR - A mansion OR - Retirement OR - A midsized home and 3 brand new vehicles The choice... is yours.

@udalix

2 жыл бұрын

Well owning those things comes at a future cost, i'd have to think about it, aside from retirement.

@adewilyan8030

Жыл бұрын

@@udalix can even turn into profit if you loan it

You hit the nail on the head with pushing the goal post!

Your estimation for those 36 5/5 pulls are actually way lower. You're looking at: - 6 legendary gems - Duplicates of those 6 gems to get them to rank 10, which opens up the extra slots per gem - 30 additional legendary gems (5 per each one of the original gems), all of them ranked 10, which opens up the resonating feature.

I thought EA was the greediest game company, Blizzard is definitely trying to beat them which I think they have.

@Shaxii__

2 жыл бұрын

They just showing them the way. EA greedy ass will do the same thing if this works out.

@1988foxtrot

2 жыл бұрын

I think Blizzard won.

@kevingame3198

2 жыл бұрын

And yet I was lucky to not play this game instead I’m playing fire emblem three hopes instead of this P2w trash

@Crashandburn999

2 жыл бұрын

@@1988foxtrot In the short term. What they're doing is making them lose all their long term customer base.

@xelicide447

2 жыл бұрын

This is bad, but I wish people would look in Star Wars Galaxy of Hero’s cost to play because maxing out a roster is probably close to a million dollars

"Go on a nice vacation, buy a car, put some money into a house." - YongYea, previous DI video

@gyroninjamodder

2 жыл бұрын

Max out your real life instead of maxing out your virtual life

@Lord_Humungus

2 жыл бұрын

Back in my day dudes with too much money spent it on drugs, alcohol and women. Still a much better choice than this shit

@ZeroG187

2 жыл бұрын

@arrowghost I actually did what Yongyea said in his previous video. I got a “2020 Toyota Prius Hybrid Echo” and Taking a vacation in Las Vegas Lol.

OMG... that was so funny. In the middle of watching your video the very first advertisement that popped up was for Diablo Immortal! You can't make this stuff up! Ha! Ha! Ha!

Thank you, Yong.

I agree with Asmondgold, Blizzard is going to try to squeeze the cash out of as many people as they can to get the most amount of profit, and then later down the line they are going to come out and say "We're sorry it shouldn't have been this way". Then at that point they will begin cutting back on their greedy monetization or they won't and will leave it like this.

@jamesduncan6729

2 жыл бұрын

That's being quite optimistic. That's assuming they will cut back or lighten up on their monetization scheme whatsoever. I highly doubt they will scale it back or make it cheaper.

@juicebox6124

2 жыл бұрын

But this is literally what Asmondgold does, he sits and watches other peoples KZread content and then turns around after the fact and says "sorry" (if that) when he inevitably siphons viewers away from that video. The hypocrisy is real.

@Paxtiny

2 жыл бұрын

It only depends on the bottom line.

@user-zb6gt7og9q

2 жыл бұрын

@@juicebox6124 A parasite, that's what he is, through and through

@TheLastApostle

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah those are the options. You literally are not giving any type of insight at all lol. The two options possible are change it or dont lol

Nowadays AAA publishers made it an eternal purpose to "outgreed" one another and Blizzard took a huge lead.

@kevingame3198

2 жыл бұрын

No there are trying to reach trillion dollars Apple succeed in reaching $3 trillion all companies are doing the same thing

@robotical4793

2 жыл бұрын

A company's goal is to make money. What did you expect?

@ghb323

2 жыл бұрын

so a competition to see who is the most greedy? Gotta say EA is in shame

I wonder whats with the Level and the "stones" in the Horadrim underground Cave. There some kind of runes too on the top screen when checking one of the "stones" Are there any "upgrades" to the "Stones" too, when reaching the max normal level?

Its hilarious that every video of yours lately opens with a commercial for Diablo Immortal.

Some time when the US government isn't filled with representatives who place big business profits over the well being of the consumer, I think the US legislative branch should take a look at how Activision is doing this and maybe make some laws for regulating the gacha games industry. It's insane to me that they can get away with this

@FNLNFNLN

2 жыл бұрын

So basically... never. The US is systemically rigged against third parties, and the existing parties? The republicans who don't openly hate minorities actively fight against uncorrupted candidates, and the republicans who do openly hate minorities don't even have uncorrupted candidates.

@AnimuncuIus

2 жыл бұрын

I genuinely doubt the time you're talking about will ever actually occur but I am certainly right there with you in wishing for it.

@ricardohoang8452

2 жыл бұрын

It will be ended up ActiBlizz investigated themselves 🤡

@BigDerp21

2 жыл бұрын

that wont matter in the end. Their main target is China. Hell, they'll skip releasing here as long as they got china

@johnhanzelyjr

2 жыл бұрын

Never gonna happen. These huge companies give MILLIONS to their "campaign Funds," and keep them in office to lord it over all. Mega-corporations, doesn't matter what industry, control this country. Welcome to the Mega-Corporate States of........don't know how to finish that.

It still amazes me that EA gets punished for "Surprise Mechanics" (As they put it in court) for what happened with Battlefront 2. Yet Activision (I refuse to tack on Blizzard anymore. Blizzard is DEAD) does something like this. Silence. Complete silence. Activision made a freaking GAMBLING video game. Which means that they should be subjected to Gambling Laws. Though still silence.

@capadociaash8003

2 жыл бұрын

Silence from who, the medias talking about it. The influencers are talking about it. Do you mean the U.S. government, they have the war in Ukraine, Roe v Wade, and the investigation into the riot at the capital, to occupy them.

@BernardoPC117

2 жыл бұрын

After this they probably will, but honestly those EA and Blizzard are not even the worst, most mobile game developers are even worst and get a free pass just because they are not in the eye of hardcore gamers

@doomyboi

2 жыл бұрын

They know that they're currently clear of gambling laws just because of the fact the payouts don't include real money.

@user-pn4py6vr4n

2 жыл бұрын

@@doomyboi This is why we need to change the law. It should be classed as gambling if you're forking over something of value for a chance of a return of some sort. Whether or not that return is money is immaterial. It's irrelevant to the psychological realities at play. As a parallel, see how the laws about consent are changing to an affirmative model. It doesn't matter if they didn't say no. What actually matters is if they freely said yes.

@damienmitchell3104

2 жыл бұрын

the issue is EA placed actual game progression behind those look boxes, etc with 0 way for people to get it aside from forking over real money. you bought the game at full price then find out that half of it is locked behind loot boxes. its ridiculous. meanwhile immortal allows you to progress for free, on a free download, BUT its a snails pace. they took the gacha formula of games like Genshin, FGO, Azur Lane, Dokkan Battle, and dialed it from a 5 to 100. This shit never lasts long from gacha games out east because its removed but Activision/Blizzard skirts around the laws here in the US since we dont have any actual laws pertaining to these unlike out east.

Absolutely crying, the post video ad I got was, wait for it, Diablo Immortal

I keep getting Diablo immoral ads on your videos roasting the game, and it's hilarious 😂

How is shit like this even legal? That’s the most predatory shit I’ve ever seen..

@christiaandijkstra2050

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on your country, it is in fact illegal here in The Netherlands and Belgium.

My god I can't believe that it literally costs half a million dollars just to max out a character..... Blizzard is crazy.

@aapoapina7390

2 жыл бұрын

And thats only for 1 character. Costs a second 500k for a second character

@TheGhostFart

2 жыл бұрын

half a million IF YOU GET REALLY LUCKY

Kinda of funny how an ad for Diablo Immortal played right before this video started lol

The ad on your video is Diablo immortal lol

Its unsurprising that they created the X / Y system for the high rarity item, with neither guaranteed. Its essentially a level of obfuscation that undoes the pity system while masquerading the fact so the gullible won't complain. A design philosophy that butchers fun in service of greed, giving no quarter to frustrated players. The hollow husk with a Blizzard nametag must be very proud.

At first, I thought that the delay of Diablo Immortal was for the PC port. However, after seeing all of this, I have to wonder if someone behind the scenes was trying to prevent the release of this horror of a cash grab, because they knew it would be a PR nightmare for Activision Blizzard. Before Diablo Immoral, I just thought that I would simply boycott their games. Now I won't be satisfied with anything less than hearing that Activision Blizzard is out of business and all of their executives are burning in hell.

@Pyxis10

2 жыл бұрын

Satan: Silly mortal, they'll be suffering in a new layer of hell I've created just for them. Not quite sure what to call it yet. Anyway, you get to choose a random assortment of horrors/tortures to go through for the rest of eternity from the mouths of 5 demons! Theres even addictive sparkly graphics and music to go along with the choice. You might even get lucky and get sent to limbo instead of hell! * Of course if you don't like the first choices you can double down for the low cost of your freinds and families souls! * Odds of this are infintesimally small.

I got an ad for Diablo Immortal at the end of the video

I actually got a diablo immortal ad on this video lol

I could buy an engagement ring, 2 flights first class to a hotel in Hawaii, pay for 5 star escorts and also afford kilos upon kilos of coke, buy a Range-rover, and eat 5 meals of gold plated stake… And still it would be cheaper than maxing out a Diablo immortal character

@brendameistar

2 жыл бұрын

Invite me for the coke bit. Thanx

Congratulations BLIZZARD, just when I thought this stupid game couldn’t have gone so low, IT ONE UPS ITSELF….. IM HONESTLY GLAD ITS BANNED IN CHINA. They 1 BILLION PERCENT deserves it!!

@16xthedetail76

2 жыл бұрын

It's banned in china? That's hilarious.

@65firered

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, if only it banned for the right reasons. Unfortunately, it was banned for reasons I don't think they should have been banned for and that REALLY PISSES ME OFF!

@roflBeck

2 жыл бұрын

It should be banned in more places.

@xSiC84

2 жыл бұрын

It was only banned because some immortal rep posted on the DI social media calling their leader a bear. That then lead to the ban, the microtransactions are totally fine with them. But don't call their leader a bear.

I hope when you max out one of the gems that is attached to your gem, that newly maxed out gem suddenly gets 5 more slots Ad infinitum

Seriously had a diablo immortal ad ahead of this video 😂

This feels like a last-ditch effort of the higher-ups in the ActiBlizzard to achieve something before Microsoft fully takes control of the company, while also knowing they won't be there once the real storm happens. Because they could probably be expecting to be 'let go' once that happens since Microsoft doesn't need to keep these controversial people associated with their name.

@g3nj1

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't Microsoft make the offer after immortal was in development for some time? I'm sure the microsoft acquisition is a factor for how they do things, but it's more likely they were trying to do something that benefited themselves but shot themselves in the foot... That's what blizzard ALWAYS does.

@chriscollins3225

2 жыл бұрын

I highly doubt Microsoft will stop this

@vinicius_nunes

2 жыл бұрын

@@chriscollins3225 Diablo Immortal is not doing as well as they expected. Made money, sure, but on release. Many people that covered the game and did guides etc are already quitting. If you check Twitch, the game barely shows up there. What I'm saying is, that Immortal is making the Diablo name very bad, and for future releases, this could be an issue, because of lack of interest, especially when POE 2 is about to come out as well, and would be a direct rival for Diablo IV. I would imagine instead of making a fast quick buck on Diablo Immortal, Microsoft intends to make money in the long run.

@chriscollins3225

2 жыл бұрын

@@vinicius_nunes I get you

@d.ink3d

2 жыл бұрын

@@vinicius_nunes Agreed miscrosoft cares somewhat about their ips, forza hoirzon 4 ,halo infinite where all solid games, hope they change the direction of the companie to quality first money will come with a quality game

Love how nowadays when Triple A companies release games it’s always followed by string of „this game bad“ -> „this game even worse than we thought“ -> „this game somehow is still digging“ glad to see we are now getting this phenomenon in different flavors

Still playing Torchlight 1 and having so much fun. :-)

Who else is now waiting to see AngryJoe's new rant when he finds out about this?

@RelentlessOhiox

2 жыл бұрын

They have been talking about it on AJS News for weeks.. or did you not know they do news too?

Option 1: Spending every single cent of a mortgage, first new car and wedding reception combined on microtransactions for a single game to max out one character in Diablo: Immortal. Option 2: Spending at least one hour a day of your entire working life grinding in order to max out one character in Diablo: Immortal. Option 3: Select only three of six: Mortgage, first new car, wedding reception, one decade of time, one decade of time, one decade of time.

@Pyxis10

2 жыл бұрын

Option 4 : Fuck that I'ma play something else.

@AegixDrakan

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pyxis10 Yeah, Imma take option 4 please. XD

The first estimate were based on the hypothesis that the pity system (every 50 crest) gave a 5 out of 5 not a randomly 2,3,4 or 5 out of 5 gems.

It's almost like they developed this as a joke, to be some sort of satire on the whole mobile game ridiculousness. They at least succeeded in what has to be the most egregious example of this practice that has ever existed. Hopefully, this backfires and causes some legislation to pass in more countries so this practice gets banned in many more countries.

If I had 500,000 in my bank account, this game is the last thing in the world I would spend a penny on.

@hagalazrune1410

2 жыл бұрын

Even if I had millions.... hell no

I hope that the people saying "I've been playing just fine without paying a single penny!" will realize that they have a time limit, of course everyone it's gonna have it easy close to the launch

@aralornwolf3140

2 жыл бұрын

Except... they only get 3 rolls a month and they can't awaken their gear (so they are locked out of being max character).

@AlkisGD

2 жыл бұрын

I don't play the game and haven't looked into the math myself, but Reddit says that a F2P player should get a 5/5, on average, every 62 years. “Aren't you guys immortal?”

@65firered

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, most were lying anyway.

@ExpandDong420

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlkisGD and even then they're worthless 5 stars because you can't sell them to even try and get what you actually want

I started laughing, my ad below the video is a Google play link to download Diablo Immortal. KZread really giving me relevant ads ain't they

I was very luck in the "Rift Simulator" so a 5/5 gem would cost me 1 thousand dollars, however, this would still be 1 thousand dollars. Imagine what you can buy for 1 thousand dollars in a real life...

Honestly, this is basically what I've been expecting. Whales provide more value than the other 99% of players. It was only natural that they would eventually start to try pumping them for everything they could.

Keep in mind yall, this game still makes millions a week. I'm not at all shocked that there's this much outrage but people continue putting money into this shit. Like I said before, *this industry didn't get this bad without incentives!*

@taags

2 жыл бұрын

What can we do? Its not like we could just put them down. I wish we could.

@jonahabenhaim1223

2 жыл бұрын

Convince others to not download this trash.

@thomasmurrell9832

2 жыл бұрын

@@taags sadly, nothing. The more we cover this shitstorm, the more people will be drawn to trying it and then getting hooked. It's nice to point out the controversy, but all we can do is speak about it and PRAY people have brains. Buuuuuuut talking about gamers? Good luck.

@TheGhostFart

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonahabenhaim1223 that wont stop the oil princes that fuel stuff like this

@MundaneThingsBackwards

2 жыл бұрын

@@taags Vote with your wallet and encourage people you know to do the same. That‘s it.

You hit the nail on the head with your assumption. Tell you what's gonna happen: seen it again and again and again. The backlash will make them say "we get it, not gonna do it again, next game will not be like this". So, next game, will have microtransactions that max out at about roughly 5k. Thus, they will have made bank on this game and claim to have listened to criticism, even though that 5k would be ludicrous,it would feel very very tame compared to what the fans got. And you know what, it will work. Publications will sing their praises and the customers will be none the wiser since any argument against that practice would be something along the lines of "well,it was much worse". It is an industry standard to create a fictional problem and then pulling it back,instead of eliminating it, to stay in people's good graces. We are being herded very very easily and as such...well, I'm gonna say it: we absolutely deserve this. Have seen this practice, not with these numbers though, again and again and everytime it's the same.

I just got a Diablo immortal ad as well omg 🤦🏿‍♀️😂

Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse...

Imagine spending a house's worth of money in a goddamn phone game on virtual gems that could be thanos snapped away at any point in time by shutting down the servers. Absolutely ridiculous and this should be illegal.

@robotical4793

2 жыл бұрын

There are different types of fun to be had in games. And this is one of them. Stop trying to ban people from enjoying a game.

@Ashurman666

2 жыл бұрын

@@robotical4793 Except "enjoying" this kind of exploitative gambling only promotes companies from making more of this shit. This kind of exploitation needs to die regardless of how "fun" it is for the whales that play it. YOU are part of the problem.

@paleposter

2 жыл бұрын

@@robotical4793 lmao good joke

@davidfodre1375

2 жыл бұрын

@@robotical4793 I would happily ban this "game" from existing if I could. This is currently the worst example of microtransactions I've seen in my life. Stop shilling for megacorporations, it's bad for your health and wallet.

Funny AF that Diablo Immortal ad played before this video.

The Diablo Immortal KZread ad just before this video is peak irony. 😬

Remember this is PER CHARACTER and not for the entire account!

You should also mention that there's a possibility that China is going to ban Diablo immortal because of a leak text that one of the blizzard employees compare the China president to a bear.

@Xunizal

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, regardless of the reason, Diablo Immortal being banned is a WIN in my honest opinion

@robertnapier624

2 жыл бұрын

They compared him to a bear even though they didn’t mention Winnie the Pooh?

@Rwbysimp68

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertnapier624 yeah from what I can remember the blizzard employee called the China president a bear not Winnie the Pooh.

And this... Is... To go... Even further beyond!

this just keeps getting better and better. someone in one of my previous comments said lineage 2's monetization was worse which may have been the case. this may very well make immortal's monetization just as bad or worse than l2's

My thing is: the director said he didn't appreciate the misinformation around the game, but has made no real attempt to explain himself and his decisions. You can't really argue with math like this. If he genuinely thinks nothing is wrong with this design, he wouldn't be afraid of having an actual discussion about it.

This will probably be a spicy take, but I was thinking: With so much wealth being shifted upward, the economy in all aspects is shifting to "whaling" rather than appealing to the normal lower-income/middle class. We don't have the economic consuming power like we used to. This goes back to supporting indie developers that have a love for gaming to make good games (not in it just for the money.)

@DanielFerreira-ez8qd

2 жыл бұрын

The fact it takes videogames for some people to notice the incoming fall of the US is a bit baffling, but at least you noticed it.

@typehere6689

2 жыл бұрын

Indies and schmoler outfits tend to offer the superior deal in this day and age. Support them if their wares appeal to you.

Isn't it a crime for a company to fleece money out of innocent victims? In gambling in a casino you at least make some real world money for the money you invest. But in this scam of a game all you get is fantasy game progression and pay to win. Why isn't there a lawsuit yet against Blizzard developers who implemented this scam? They should be getting arrested with jail sentences for their crimes.

i am so excited for the D-I monetization! half a million for 1 character on a mobile game?! we might have to live under a bridge and eat scrap from dumpsters but... what a steal!!!

I sold my kidneys, totally worth it for the sweet loot in diablo immortal 👍

@simonrockstream

2 жыл бұрын

Thats nowhere near enough money bro.

@decipher111

2 жыл бұрын

@@simonrockstream not only my own kidneys….

@tjenadonn6158

2 жыл бұрын

@@decipher111 Bro you can't just go around stealing kidneys. That kills people.

@decipher111

2 жыл бұрын

@@tjenadonn6158 i have to pay for the sweet diablo loot somehow

So at this point we should just automatically assume Diablo Immortal can keep getting worse, right? Next is just a flat out million.

... I remember when I played Factorio to shell out money on each item I crafted in my inventory. It was called Iron, Copper, Oil, Stone, and Uranium. They were all free, if I remember correctly.

I LOVE your shirt my guy

This is an absurd! It's more than time for Activision/Bizzard to close its doors once and for all. Shame that this never will happen while there are kids buying Act/Blizzard's just because "they make ma favorite games".

@thorin1045

2 жыл бұрын

nope, it will never happen, because they made a literal money printer, they have exactly zero reason to close.

@LeQuack147

2 жыл бұрын

The onus shouldn't be on the consumers. Where the fuck are the politicians during all this? Oh, right, turning women into second-class citizens.

@cubedmelons876

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, we can't even blame the kids for this one. What kid's got a million dollars laying around for this game's absurd macrotransactions?

@jonahabenhaim1223

2 жыл бұрын

Some kids play Fortnite

@64bitmodels66

2 жыл бұрын

@@LeQuack147 holy shit this. If there was an actual competent politician we would have banned this shit by now