James Cameron should commission a whole nature documentary series for Pandora and hire David Attenborough for the narration.

@timmy3822

Жыл бұрын

I would honestly watch the heck out of that 😅.

@ChillAssTurtle

Жыл бұрын

Thatd be waaay better

@eddiedutra3359

Жыл бұрын

Werner Herzog

@The_Almighty.

Жыл бұрын

It's not a real world lol

@tarthgarl

Жыл бұрын

Wow.. this is actually a really good idea

Alex: "It's a polished turd." OJ: "It's a long turd." AJ: "THAT TURD LOOK GOOD!"

@86thPatriot

Жыл бұрын

Alex: 6/10 OJ: 6/10 AJ: 8/10 Final verdict: 8/10 Did OJ and Alex even need to be there?

@SRCepTer

Жыл бұрын

@@86thPatriot yes?

@stephenperry2325

Жыл бұрын

@@86thPatriot it'd be cool if it was a avg final verdict forsure.

@berniem9254

Жыл бұрын

I know it's gonna blow everyone's mind but its a average movie. Can't bank on visuals alone for 3+ hours, there has to be some kind of compelling story.

@richardroberts5531

Жыл бұрын

AJ gets too emotional to give a proper verdict on a Movie!! Either that or he’s a total sell out! In Alex and OJ I trust ✅

One tip: pick a good theater with the comfy roomy seats, and it’s a good experience! I had the recliners with room in front where I never had to get up to let anyone exit or leave the row, saw it in 3D matinee for $12 a ticket. No complaints at all!!

@srosewood7368

Жыл бұрын

Makes all the difference, those recliner seats!!!

I really liked the movie, sure the dialog was a little corny at times and gave me fast and furious Vin diesel "family is everything" vibes sometimes, but it was a great family movie and looked ridiculous and when you find out that every underwater scene was motion captured you just appreciate it even more.

Weta is actually a New Zealand based company, not Australia :)

@purefoldnz3070

Жыл бұрын

heresy!

@skintrader100

Жыл бұрын

A 🗡️ to the ❤️

@Rhythmattica

Жыл бұрын

Yep.. WETA is an NZ based company, Afterall, Its Peter Jacksons company! The Aussie one is Animal Logic....

@eliasvelasquez6327

Жыл бұрын

Spectable stupid cash sash:((

@AngryJoeShow

Жыл бұрын

My bad

I kinda figured one’s investment in the film would be determined in how you felt about the kids. The “Boring” section of the film was my favorite section. Totally invested in Kiri, and liked the younger son’s subplot with the Whale. Plus all the underwater stuff. Liked it far better than the first, and I’m hyped for the 3rd. If this is really a long epic about the different generations of this family, then I think Cameron will have something that over the long term will stand the test of time. His Star Wars.

@JoeBoozer

Жыл бұрын

yep

@vaibhavkothari8240

Жыл бұрын

I so agree with you Sean I unsubscribed this channel since the advent of Alex and never ending gimmick of oj being acting like a 14 year old, they only hate to be trendy and stay KZread relevant

@reeducated1281

Жыл бұрын

@@vaibhavkothari8240that’s what these KZreadrs do, most are bitter half glass empty types.

@vaibhavkothari8240

Жыл бұрын

@@reeducated1281 and to add to that we’re only helping them get more engagement by commenting, I think the freedom of speech on this platform should be regulated or be monetized based on what people like and dislike.

@z0tw

Жыл бұрын

I concur, Sean. The middle of the movie was perhaps the most intriguing to me. There was a bunch of good stuff about this. The whole outcast situation with the whale was relatable and tied into the battle at the end of the movie. I really liked the daughters but i think that killing off the oldest son made a bit of sense here as well as the adoption of Spider at the end of the movie. I'd have to assume that Spider somehow gets an avatar of his own. I'd like that for his character but there is something about him staying human that can sort of tie together the Na'Vi and humans. I'd have to go off a ledge here and say that towards the end of this series that the Na'Vi and humans come together as one. I really would enjoy it if that is the case, but if not, then it's no dilemma.

When you score a movie for his visuals instead of the story is when you know entertainment is going in a bad direction.

@tyruswillier7358

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah you only watch black and white movies on a vcr entertainment is getting so much worse you'd rather sit next to a radio and stare at a wall who cares about visuals shut up dude

@gustavanefjall2383

Жыл бұрын

🤓🤓🤓

@banishedbr

Жыл бұрын

and even james said they thought hard and they decided to make a lotmore films, and it starts with CLONE plot hole not good i say.

@musakamara4157

Жыл бұрын

Movies are a visual experience, they're supposed to be pleasing to your eyes so you stare at it. Books exist if all you want is a story.

@splashyt3820

11 ай бұрын

Great story, but when i watched it back at home. The first encounter with sully was the best chance to finish him.

I could've watched 5 hours of this. Super immersive, no pun intended, entertaining, and impressive. Loved the characters. Thought I was going to hate the kids, but ended up getting attached. Will definitely watch again in the theaters.

@michaelg5945

Жыл бұрын

Could not disagree more thought there was maybe 1 or 2 fully flushed out characters, which is embarrassing since its a 3 and a half hour movie

@ramonandrajo6348

Жыл бұрын

The movie is crap.

@cegesh1459

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, this time the charakters fell flat for me.

@SCP42723

Жыл бұрын

Yup with you there, loved the refreshing change of pace. Looking forward to the next one, will 100% rewatch both of these until then. These movies are the only ones worth looking forward to for me personally nowdays.

@alexspace9878

Жыл бұрын

The plot and writing dragged down any positives this movie had. For every great moment with Noah and Kiri there was a caricature hunter or scientist.

I loved the family dynamics particularly with netyri going all mother bear at the end.

@williamyoung9401

Жыл бұрын

Kids? 😴🤕😭

@briannerk3373

Жыл бұрын

Netyri is my least favorite character by far... she is all fine and dandy, but then when it's her turn to suffer she turns into a monster willing to kill her adopted son (spider). She is just as bad, if not worse than the humans in Avatar in a way.

@joeyvaldez835

Жыл бұрын

@@briannerk3373 oh give me a break😂.. it was clearly established in this movies expedition, Neteryi never really embraced Spider (due to past relationships with sky people). Even with Neteryi and Jake saved the kids, spider fell and kiri was like “OMG spider fell” and Neteryi said “let’s go!” insinuating she doesn’t care for spider. That’s why spider retaliated by saving his na’vi father because he feels apart from the kids, that’s the only true connection he has with someone. It will be interesting to see spider and Neteryis relationship in the 3rd movie. Who knows, maybe spider gets a difference of heart and join the humans🤷‍♂️

@briannerk3373

Жыл бұрын

@@joeyvaldez835 She was willing to murder an innocent child who protected her

@joeyvaldez835

Жыл бұрын

@@briannerk3373 it was established she never cared for spider that’s what I’m trying to say… And not so much innocent as he just saved the very person that’s trying to kill her and her family and just killed her REAL son I see your point though

It's nice seeing fathers treated with some respect.

@ZeusKabooze

Жыл бұрын

honestly the kids showed no respect to their dad lmao. 'promise me dont go there.' 'i promise'. Goes to said place.

@Griffith74

Жыл бұрын

@@ZeusKabooze ohhhhhhhhhh so like lion king

@youtubesucks1821

Жыл бұрын

The world is coming around. People are finally realizing that while mothers are important they are not always right, true, and good.

@Nico78Not

Жыл бұрын

It's nice seeing a father deserving respect get some.*

@phil_5430

Жыл бұрын

so you dont want a gay father couple in movies? what, are you a nazi?

I personally felt the whale relationship with the young kid was the best part of the movie.

@rhyantrick8178

Жыл бұрын

Same

@silvastian

Жыл бұрын

Sissy

@INS1977

Жыл бұрын

Classic family... Not modern- half deds, 3 moms etc

i love the family aspect of the film, i love the way they focus on the kid’s development and i loved seeing the men being leaders and their wife’s being fierce warriors even while pregnant. i don’t see many movies come out that focuses on families much now a days. i also like the fact that they show human greed & destruction and how humans will come and destroy nature and natural way of life. i loved the water tribe kings wife and how she was pregnant and still strong and loving. movie was rlly good and interesting

@BlackCheezit

Жыл бұрын

I didnt like the kids or the pregnant women fighting 👍

@canaree6

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackCheezit i liked it 😄

@GreenFalcon926

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackCheezit Why not? The kids fighting makes perfect sense, as does the pregnant woman fighting.

@BlackCheezit

Жыл бұрын

@@GreenFalcon926 hmmm yuo make alot of sense. yes now i think im starting to like it 🤔🤔🤔

@morsorcus8152

Жыл бұрын

Yes pregnant women, tha are weaker, slower, hormonal, and are nothing but a liability on a battlefield make perfect warriors..... my God the stupidity of some people today.

It’s interesting how dramatically different reviews can be. The Telegraph hated this, calling it “waterboarding with turquoise cement.”

@mmm-mmm

Жыл бұрын

i'm gonna guess the telegraph are more accurate... :p

@strider00svk40

Жыл бұрын

@@mmm-mmm or maybe they are just pompous pricks

@eddiek8179

Жыл бұрын

@@mmm-mmm Nope. Just by that snarky tone alone - one can guess how they approached watching the movie. Full edgelord. I also may be wrong. I have seen the movie, however - so I possibly am right when I disagree with them. 😉

@Revan-eb1wb

Жыл бұрын

@@eddiek8179 or they did not like the movie. You can stop licking cameron's boots. Thank you

@AverageJoe483

Жыл бұрын

@@mmm-mmmas someone who served in the military hand went to SERE school. I can say that assessment of which is worse is INCORRECT

I find a lot of people dislike the middle of the movie because it doesn’t progress the story, but I believe it’s a good break from all the action, kind of like a ghibli movie, there are just parts to sit back and relax to and that’s one of the things I found so enjoyable about this movie. Also is nobody going to talk about Ney’tiris face at the end? You can see in her eyes how mad she is, how she has gone over the edge in rage and sorrow.

@jdl2327

Жыл бұрын

She was terrifying. She was out for blood, spider wasn’t even safe

@MyCLAUDIO123456

Жыл бұрын

I like how she sees his bows father braking it and thats why she realice that she went too feral

@2manyballfaces46

Жыл бұрын

That was by far my favorite part. Seeing her go protective mommy murder mode was so fucking lit.

@Brutalister

Жыл бұрын

Yes exactly like a Ghibli movie! Great comparison.

@WebStrikegeography

Жыл бұрын

@@2manyballfaces46 yeah, I was actually scared when I saw her face

I literally saw the first movie fully for the first time like 2 days before I watched this movie, so the plot was fresh in my mind, and I really enjoyed this film. despite a few stupid ways to move the plot forward, I thought this was an excellent film with beautiful visuals and cinematography, and I did enjoy most of the characters, even the new ones.

@thefatkid604

10 ай бұрын

yo me too

Despite being 3+ hours, it seemed like there was an hour of missing footage. Most of it relating to the military plotline.

The first thing I notice about these reviews is Alex's demeanor. You see his expression and just know how he feels about the film.

@gumerzambrano

Жыл бұрын

Yeah he's a lonely grump

@tyruswillier7358

Жыл бұрын

I don't think so he looks the same even when he's talking about his favorite media lord of the rings came by and got barely talked about he had the same look as this video most of the time but he supposedly knows everything and loves the books I wouldn't know though Joe talked so much more than him I can't remember Alex talking a lot

@knossostellel-amarna8502

Жыл бұрын

Felt like a movie for kids to be honest, apart from the visuals there's nothing much to look forward to unlike his previous sci-fi outlings(Aliens or Terminator 2)

@bdubberz

Жыл бұрын

@@knossostellel-amarna8502 why reply that here

@knossostellel-amarna8502

Жыл бұрын

@@bdubberz Because i can

The problem is most people thought this was too long, but I wanted more, I wanted them to spend more time developing the characters that will be appearing in the sequel. I needed more time with Spider as it seems he will end up heel turning or even the one who kills his dad in the end. My 8 year old sat through this film with no problems on the length and in fact she wanted more also, so I guess if you thought the movie was too long, it's just maybe not for you and you had the wrong energy going into the movie.

@frododododo

Жыл бұрын

Most people didn't think it was too long after they saw it, LOL. People say the time flew by

@emilianohermosilla3996

Жыл бұрын

I thought the same, dude! I hope James Cameron releases some type of director’s cut since I had basically the same gripe as you…

@theswirl7418

Жыл бұрын

I know people have their opinions but I personally love long movies I don’t think we get enough long movies anymore 👌

@joflyserj4831

Жыл бұрын

@@emilianohermosilla3996 take my money

@Mexirican017

Жыл бұрын

Wasn’t long enough

I loved this film, the emotional scenes were truly emotional (for me), the visuals are best in business and the action is typically Cameron (its awesome). Its not perfect, but its a good movie overall.

@leob4403

Жыл бұрын

Horrible movie overall

@dereka5017

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Fantastic movie overall, with some story/pacing/villain issues.

@excessmaterial

Жыл бұрын

First film was better though

Maybe it was just me but the flash backs in the end to character that dies really hit me in the feels as a parent. I think like others have said I also really liked the family dynamic in this movie and definitely got attached more then the first

I came back from the theater, and I was surprised how much I enjoyed the film when I had almost no expectations for it. While I do feel the first one was better in terms of streamlining the pace and story, the second one felt a lot more personal and touched on the theme of fatherhood very well.

@purefoldnz3070

Жыл бұрын

yeah I just saw it too and was quite impressed such a breath of fresh air compared to the MCU tripe.

@dannyphantom1593

Жыл бұрын

Does it make you cry

@Jerico195

Жыл бұрын

Im not a father and can't relate to that - is this movie going to bore me?

@LSB44446

Жыл бұрын

@@Jerico195You'll probably enjoy it

@LSB44446

Жыл бұрын

Exactly how I feel

Reasons why this Avatar sequel got delayed 7 times (since 2013): - James is trying new technology with filming underwater and higher fps film - His music guy died - He had trouble filming underwater and other challenges along the way - He's making 4 sequels at once. - Pandemic

@georgeeblum

Жыл бұрын

What was the name of the Music Guy?

@JackXfight

Жыл бұрын

Wait a minute, 4 sequel the first one is water. Water earth fire air What a coincidence.

@billyraynsford8884

Жыл бұрын

You forget it is not just movie making is his passion but he has made documentries and like marine biology love the underwater and more then likely knows more about the ocean then most who have commented.

@theskiff

Жыл бұрын

@@JackXfight most likely not. Since they (SPOILER WARNING) said the water clan is their home now. Plus James Cameron is obsessed with submarines and underwater. He basically used this film to set the setting for the next films which again is with the water clan.

@jamesasui9668

Жыл бұрын

@@theskiffI’m guessing he’s gonna unite both sky and water clans together to fight the sky people

This movie blew me away they must have spent a fortune! The action scene made me feel like I was there!

This is an experience! These movies are made to feel, not just see a movie. It’s worth the IMAX 3D admission alone. You feel like you’re on another planet just witnessing something. I’d watch a 3 hour tech demo of Pandora in IMAX lol… it’s so immersive.

@morsorcus8152

Жыл бұрын

Did you not see the first in 3d???? Sorry but this while looking great is not anything new. They have pretty much perfected what already exists. Whereas the first one was the first time you could get truly immersed in 3d. I'd say the first was a experience the second is just the best of what we have already seen.

@PepeMetallero

Жыл бұрын

​@@morsorcus8152 it looks way better than the first one especially the underwater scenes.

@morsorcus8152

Жыл бұрын

@@PepeMetallero ....compared to the nonexistant underwater scenes lol. The visuals are an improvement but your coping hard if your gonna act like its an insane improvement. The first was the first real good looking movie in 3d. It was a much more impressive visual experience than the second. And the story of the first is far better. And you don't see idiotic pregnant women getting themselves and their children slaughtered to promote an inherently stupid and incorrect political view.

@CaptainMarvel-ew7rn

Жыл бұрын

It’s not worth the 3d

@jdubo1998

Жыл бұрын

@@morsorcus8152 2nd had way better special effects, you are blind if you can't see that, lmao.

Looks like it was better than a lot of people thought it would be, that’s good. I had a lot of people tell me it wasn’t going to be good because they thought the first movie was forgettable but it seems that wasn’t the case

@ilqrd.6608

Жыл бұрын

true…that was definitely not the cages

@BoxFang

Жыл бұрын

Forgetable? The argument people use when saying this is because you don't remember characters names, sure i don't remember the names but i well do remember the epic war and the reasons wich is what the movie gives the most screen time. Also i remember the characters and the badass fights. Movie was good and deserved the attention.

@solidskullz5736

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the plot was easy to understand. I don’t know how they can forget one of the characters shooting a guy with a bow and arrow while he was in a mech. That scene is my favorite

@Shocknfunk

Жыл бұрын

@@BoxFang it was a pretty impressive tech demo for 3D movies back then and a good way to show off the new TVs in stores. Not really a movie that could’ve made the biggest box office in the world without being in theaters for over 10+ months and getting the huge bump in 3D ticket package sales.

@SoccerVJ2011

Жыл бұрын

I’ll be waiting for Nerdrotic’s review before going tbh

I think the “boring” section of the movie invest the audience in the sea world of pandora.. I enjoyed it.. makes you feel like you’re in the world.. great movie.. people always find something to complain about

@sharpshoota8274

Жыл бұрын

Another thing I noticed Joe say is that the movie is 3 and a half hours while the movie is barely 3 hours. It’s total run time is 3 hours and 12 minutes with credits. Joe loves to exaggerate lol

@SlavicGold

Жыл бұрын

Yea like a tourist aspect to the film that fills out those 3 hours

@Bigs-kn6lg

Жыл бұрын

" people always find something to complain about." That's a guarantee!! 😆😆

@cosmiccj_

Жыл бұрын

@@Bigs-kn6lg literally bro it’s insane ..

@MrMrTravman

Жыл бұрын

*Alex always fines something to complain about* there. Fixed it for you lol.

I liked the first one a lot and I loved the 2nd one. Saw it tonight and the story was fun, the characters were amazing and interesting, the setting and cgi Astounding and was emotional at some points. I do feel this is goin to try to do Star Wars. The colonial died and now is in his new "Suit" like Vader and with his son "Spider" he is goin to try to bring him into the light and fight in the next one or the ending of this franchise against humanity with that female general in charge

Ive seen ALOT of movies and after seeing this movie just a few hours ago i have to say that for me it was a 3h visual orgasm and i enjoyed the story and especially the mid part where it developed the kids, also if you are planing to go see this movie pls search for the biggest/best quality cinema screen close to you.

James Cameron blew me away in only 22 mins into the film, setting it's tone and story up, I am beyond satisfied with this movie, epic planting of what's to come...now I want to go swimming.

@berniem9254

Жыл бұрын

How about the other 2hours and 50 min...was it as compelling as the first 22?

@theknightspalace

Жыл бұрын

@@berniem9254 very much so Bernie, this time around Cameron really draws you into the world of Pandora, I mean this from the bottom of my heart..the fathers stories, the mothers emotion, hell even the alien whales made me tear up...I gotta say I'm very excited to watch part 3,4, and 5..and the cliffhangers were on level of game of thrones...I can't wait for part 3 now..how long must I wait for it....yes it's that good , no I'm not a hype man (unless it's pertaining to Godzilla)

@berniem9254

Жыл бұрын

@@theknightspalace Damn, that's a good explanation. I might have to see it now, I just thought it was all CGI filler?

@theknightspalace

Жыл бұрын

@@berniem9254 this level of cgi , I have never seen before James has spent some money on upgrades, it's so real you almost believe everything is real, yes it's that good matter of fact avatar uses 60% cgi techniques..this time you can hardly tell..im still figuring out how the hell he pull off the underwater scenes

@berniem9254

Жыл бұрын

@@theknightspalace That surprises me, seeing how well Top Gun did with no CGI. I figured people had moved on but we'll see how well the box office sales go

That middle part was my favorite. I loved just seeing the kids interact with the world. It's character development.

@antonimartinez9961

Жыл бұрын

zzzzzzzzzz

@UncannyGameNerdz

Жыл бұрын

@@antonimartinez9961 lol

@thegreatresetofthehumanrac664

Жыл бұрын

Stop, this movie is bad. It fell off

@AVanMan

Жыл бұрын

I literally timed it they focus on the whales for 45 mins!!!!! Like I need some answers on so many plot holes and they spend practically the whole third act on whales

@avavanpelt926

Жыл бұрын

​@AVanMan Im pretty sure the other stuff gets adressed in the next movies. I guess he took so dang long cause he was writing 4 movies getting things fleshed out then finally started filming the second.

I never saw one because every time I asked someone how it was, they said the special fx were amaaaaaazing! I asked about the story and they said well the special fx were amazing.

@DashDarrenger

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, part 2 is giving me deja vu. Both have insanely boring terrible stories but that cgi though. People are easily distracted/entertained by shiny pretty things so who cares if it has a good story or not?

Anyone noticed the movie not looking good in some Dolby Cinema 3D and Imax 3D Laser showing? I've seen it 4 times and my Imax 3D Laser was a horrible experience. It looked blurry and flat. Back in September when Avatar 1 was re-released in 4k remastered Imax 3D Laser it had black bars on the left and right. So did the clip for Avatar 2 and it looked amazing. Now that part 2 has been released it doesn't have the black bars on the side. Meaning the resolution is lower. I also had issues with my second viewing of Dolby Cinema 3D where it looked flat and lower frame rate. I spoke to the manager about it, and I've also seen some people talking about it online.

Such an amazingly wonderful film. I didnt think I would get attached to the kids but I'm glad they did the character development well. Kiri ended up being ny favourite.

@2manyballfaces46

Жыл бұрын

Loak was my fav

@rhomelnikkogallanosa5387

Жыл бұрын

Kiri was an interesting character, given she has Eywa’s direct connection. I think she’s going to be much powerful in the upcoming movies. My favorite character is Spider. He’s well aware that he is human, but I love how he embraces it. I like that he and the children accept him as a Na’vi. I am very interested to see how Neytiri’s relationship with him will grow.

@rumchata6569

Жыл бұрын

Shit was cringe lol

@randomly_random_0

Жыл бұрын

@@rumchata6569 you're so edgy

@DarthNafarious

Жыл бұрын

it was genuinely a bad movie. SO many dumb shots just to show off visuals, like yeah i get it you have good CGI. Where is the story though? there was absolutely no story. It felt dumb and cheap that they reincarnated the marine leader, they wanted him to have a redemption arc where he cares about his son but then they take every opportunity to make him overly evil for no reason and that redemption just is forgotten about. The kids don't seem to be able to learn from past mistakes, they keep endangering themselves in the most ridiculous ways. Everything is so clearly telegraphed, we can see from a mile away that the water na'vi kids are going to put the younger son in a dangerous position and it was so obvious that his elder brother was going to die. The story is so weak, why the hell are the human forces expending all these resources to take out one na'vi? We find out that Earth is dying and all of humanity is ultimately going to come to this planet...but you want to go after 1 specific na'vi? And he decides to leave behind his entire army that is seemingly conducting successful guerilla attacks against the humans why? no idea. why have we never heard of these water Na'vi? No idea, no mention of any other type of na'vi in the first movie at all but conveniently here they are. So we have forest na'vi, sea na'vi, wanna bet that we will have mountain na'vi and desert na'vi? Some weak connection of the elements, earth, water , air and fire? The pacing of this movie is so off, the first movie did way better in this regard, we were introduced to new elements at relevant times and it never felt overwhelming nor spoonfeeding. A personal opinion now, I am so sick of movies that just keep ramming thinly veiled climate change BS down our throats. Yeah, pollution is bad, we need to get renewable energy, but why are humans being depicted as these genocidal maniacs and other species are shown to be these morally virtuous nature loving hipies that are just way better than us in every single way

I appreciate Alex’s candor and OJ has a very relatable way of expressing his thoughts on the films. This debate style / different opinions approach to the review is where u guys do good.

@oldfart9153

Жыл бұрын

Good observation, I see that too have a good day

@artistryartistry7239

Жыл бұрын

It'd be nice if they could actually finish a sentence before Joe cuts them off and starts talking over them. I mean, who does that shit?

@geordirendum583

Жыл бұрын

I gotta admit that i like the fact that they have different view points

@unknownprotocol60

Жыл бұрын

@@artistryartistry7239 to be fair he is getting better at it, but yeh sometimes it feels like they have to rush with what they have to say otherwise they get cut off

This is what I will say about Avatar: The Way of Water. Films with over 3 hour runtime exist, (Titanic, LOTR, Endgame, Casino, The Godfather) and their runtime is never discussed nor is it against their enjoyability factor. With new streaming shows, most people do not care about watching a 10 one-hour per episode series. The bringing up of the runtime is irrelevant to a film’s quality. Second, while the plot of the first film is similar to other works, most of the “film bros”/movie reviewers watch comic book films which in terms are copy/paste stories just with a different superhero. It is also strange to mention Avatar’s age gap between its sequel when films like Top Gun:Maverick, Incredibles 2 and even Rambo took longer breaks and truly did not have an excuse to wait so long for their sequels to come out. James Cameron’s secret to his successful films is telling a simple story with a big visual spectacle. The Way of Water has a very interesting story in which the children are front and center. The Sully kids are their own people and while they do make mistakes, in real life children/teens commit these same mistakes. Disobedience, proving oneself to parents and listening to peer pressure are very realistic and sometimes traumatizing moments. Having the “boring” time to learn about the kids' dynamics with one another is important in order to care about their kidnapping in the later part. Films like The Breakfast Club and American Graffiti show scenes of teens being teens and that further explores those characters as beyond stereotypes. The Metkayina people are different from the Omaticaya people and having that moment of learning is important. Jake and Neytiri take a back seat as characters but it is important as by the end we get a sense of the entire Sully family and where they will go in Avatar 3.

I just watched it and loved it. My only complaint (unless there’s something I missed), was James Cameron bringing back the old villain, after killing him in the first one.

I went in with zero expectation, and I have to say it was pretty good and I enjoyed it waaaay more than I expected. And believe it or not, I actually am looking forward to the next installment; if it ever get made in my lifetime lol

@tiernanrea1726

Жыл бұрын

James Cameron, the mad man which he is, filmed Avatar 2/3 back to back.. 😂 He's literally working on 4 at the moment.

@3IRDDY

Жыл бұрын

Part 3 and half of 4 is already filmed. Confirmed in interviews and articles by James. According to James he says it should only take 2 years before 3 comes out “if everything goes as planned.”

@nerad1994

Жыл бұрын

Avatar 3 comes out in 2024!

@eirikarnesen9691

Жыл бұрын

if you had zero expectations, wh did you watch it on day 1? im calling bs

@arandomfish9755

Жыл бұрын

@@eirikarnesen9691 Cause my gf wanted to watch it, so I was like sure lol

The part of the movie that lost me a little bit was the ending on the ship and the kids getting captured over and over again. The rest was pretty awesome though. Especially the under water flora and fauna.

I'm not sure if Sigourney Weaver's voice was pitch-shifted, because in an interview she mentioned that she was studying how teenage girls sound, particularly the pitch she said, to of course try and match that. - I'm not so sure if that's doable. I mean, if you have enough control over your voice, like say a voice-actor or singer. I'm a vocalist myself and I can imagine, but it's difficult. - so perhaps it's not very doable for an entire role, at least one that's actual physical acting an entire body. - But the pitch-shift was only slight, perhaps not even enough if she was (apparently) supposed to be 14. Because she still sounded a bit too mature at times, so I kept thinking like 17 or so, that point where you're becoming an adult or whatever, and even girls tend to get a somewhat "lower" voice. - They could easily have altered it even more with other manipulation-tools. It's the timbre, not the pitch, and there has been software for that for decades.

Saw it Thursday in regular cinema. Saw it again Friday night in imax 3D. Was amazing! Might also be because I’m a new father so the parent beat hit a little more then it could for most. Definitely need more of the world now

@ElCyberWizard

Жыл бұрын

Simp

@Mexirican017

Жыл бұрын

@@ElCyberWizard for who?

@corork

Жыл бұрын

yes. i felt like the characters grew with me. For me the movie hit all the right notes. 10/10

@stefanlaterra5797

Жыл бұрын

What did you prefer 3D or normal. I’ve seen normal already wanted to know if was worth it again

@turboz2001

Жыл бұрын

@@stefanlaterra5797 yes

I remember how the first movie got a lot of criticism and i can recall many people saying it was overrated, but i never felt that way. I personally really enjoyed the first movie and have been looking forward to to the second one coming out, i haven't seen it yet but i suspect it will pull me in.

@monkeyXmonkey

Жыл бұрын

I found the first one boring, but I loved the sequel to hell, so I'm sure you'll thoroughly enjoy it!

@jean-lucpicard581

Жыл бұрын

Watch it in IMAX 3D!!

@thisisntsergio1352

Жыл бұрын

I saw it in imax 3d just now. Felt just like you did before I saw it.

@simonmultiverse6349

Жыл бұрын

I didn't understand the second film at all. It also got very violent towards the end. Waste of time, waste of money.

@4411825

Жыл бұрын

A lot of the hate has to do with the in your face and uncompromising political theme!

Please don't ban 3D glasses James Cameron. People will see me crying easily in Avatar 3

I would like to hear the plot Alex could come up with? Since nothing is ever good enough

@tyruswillier7358

Жыл бұрын

I've noticed that too nothing is ever good enough they downplay greatness but they lift up mediocrity and ignore it's shortcomings they're so backwards lately they gave this a 6 but they'll rate she Hulk an 8 or moon knight or Loki or Ms Marvel they're so weird

@Anc1ntkn1ght

Жыл бұрын

💯

@goodnesswhy

Жыл бұрын

I honestly agree with him. Most of the plot wouldn't happen if the kids were not constantly in danger. James Cameron seriously couldn't figure out other ways to move the story forward? The first movie didn't really have as much hostage situations as this movie.

@shatterband24

Жыл бұрын

The plot was very shallow in my opinion. They definitely didn't put their budget there lol

@fredy2041

Жыл бұрын

@@shatterband24 Your problem

Why is it everyone praises Cameron for his CGI when he has no substance to back it up, but all other sci-fi films get vitriolic criticism for the very presence of CGI.

@J-Dawg81

Жыл бұрын

no substance?

@izumolee6714

Жыл бұрын

If you are going expecting Citizen Kane style plot or something with complexity than you are gonna be disappointed. However like all J.Cameron films there is a level of simplicity layered with emotional resonance. Look back at all his films every single one of them are very simple plots but has layers to them with some emotional attachment to them. Aliens is a simple war film but at the heart of it is a battle of 2 mothers. T2 is about 2 Terminators fighting for a kid but at its heart a kid finding a father figure & a machine learning the meaning of being human. That's just how he writes his stories.

@Cenot4ph

Жыл бұрын

@@izumolee6714 I think you're glossing over the fact that the screenplays for Aliens, Terminator etc. were made a lot better than for this movie. That's the main criticism of Alex, the screenplay is just not good and the "excuses" for plot development are also not good.

@Revan-eb1wb

Жыл бұрын

@@J-Dawg81 most critizise the story. Yes, no substance, buddy

@diocre7446

Жыл бұрын

Lmao no substance for hater. I mean if a lot of people like it 🤔 how the hell you call it no substance.

I loved it. I saw it alone but I’m definitely going back to see it again with my family

@RobertK1993

Жыл бұрын

Yes people don't like it why don't it if you didn't like first one.

@davidcorelli556

Жыл бұрын

Its not good for kids.

@BK-uy9nj

Жыл бұрын

Lmao im about to see it alone too, my buddy in ca too. We gettin old and still wanna see avatar

I agree with the fact that they focus too much on the "stupid boys". First of all, they act like they're a bunch of present-day (as in, today) kids who run around speaking English with slang from Earth, while they're on PANDORA, this planet that you need to travel to for like 6 years to get there, in the 2150s or something, when they're raised by natives there, as well as a parent that was a disciplined Marine. - WHY were they starting and ending every sentence with "bro"?... Did Cameron just tell them to "just do what you would do"?... Cause it would probably be accurate. - Anyway, I wish they had focused more on Kiri for instance, because she was fascinating and I wanted to know more about her. - She had this natural fascination for her environment because of her mother, and it was just wholesome, and they should have gone more in-depth with her as a character. - They only touched upon her struggles with being "different", but it would've been way better if they went deeper on how she's offspring from Grace and all that. - Such a waste. - I honestly didn't even care that one of the boys died, which should made me weep. But I was pretty much indifferent because of the over-exposure and the "bro"-count they racked up.

Alex knows what he’s talking about 👍 Move is like a replay all over again with the same villain. 6/10

@musakamara4157

Жыл бұрын

Same villain equates to bad movie? I guess the Harry Potter franchise and the Star wars franchise are all bad since those have one main villain too. That's kinda shallow but thanks for nothing.

@vixen9120

Жыл бұрын

@@musakamara4157 Star Wars doesn’t use the Same villain in every movie,instead they mention the villain in some of their movies that build up to the very end.

I'm in Greece I watched it last night in 3D. It was beautiful I mean you go for the imagery more than anything. I will be watching it again but I have a headache from last night I seriously thought I would go crosseyed after 3 hours of 3D. The projector wasn't working correctly at first and some people left luckily they fixed it. Some of the objects were literally coming out of the screen .

Final verdict 8/10

@brokenwrench404

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@id104335409

Жыл бұрын

Too many blue people?

@anony-mousse8487

Жыл бұрын

the hero we deserve

@Cenot4ph

Жыл бұрын

overrated as usual from Joe, I mostly listen to Alex because he's got a realistic grasp on the good and the bad. This thing is a 5/10 and perhaps a 6 if you really want to see pretty colors on the screen

@purefoldnz3070

Жыл бұрын

@@unknownlycan see it in imax or not at all.

I know Alex is saying nothing happened in this film, but I really appreciated that they took the time to show us this family and the world around them. They spent way more time on the world and trying to get us to connect with it than the first film did. Three hours is a long time, but now adays we binge watch shows for much longer periods of time. There are definitely some plot contrivances, but they weren't enough to take me out of the film. I was totally engrossed with it the whole way through. If I had to use only one word to describe the film it would be consistent. It felt like a completely natural continuation from the first film in every way, I didn't notice any plot holes, and ALL of the littlest of tiniest details were kept track of. For example, when certain characters needed to be wearing gas masks and when they shouldn't be. I was actively looking for things to take me out of the world, but they weren't there. It felt like I could just sit back and enjoy something for a change and not have to feel cynical about it. Movies aren't allowed to just be movies anymore. There are series and tie ins, and sequels you're always having to think about, but this didn't even feel like a sequel. It felt like I never stopped watching the first movie. It was really refreshing. It's not the best movie in the world, I think some things some characters do don't make sense, but it was all still cohesive and tightly put together enough that I could forgive that. I'd watch it again in theaters, I enjoyed it that much.

Well I'm turning on my bell 🔔. KZread stop sending me updates on Joe. Going to watch the content I miss

Character development and world building was a huge priority and I definitely appreciate the fact. Soundtrack is always a plus and the movie is visually captivating. The story is obviously nothing new when it comes to colonization of an indigenous world but still overall fun all around. 8-9/10 for sure.

@tylerdurden6917

Жыл бұрын

9.5/10 bro

@snapgab

Жыл бұрын

Character development and worldbuilding, and just the audience's general emotional investment in the story, are often the biggest weak points for movies like this, but for Avatar they're the movie's biggest strength IMO. Yeah the plot is generic and nothing super special, but who cares? It doesn't need to be special, it just needs to serve as a way to create stakes and make us worry for the characters and world we're emotionally invested in. Tons of movies with a similar plot, or even a more special and more interesting plot, end up being incredibly boring because the emotional investment just isn't there.

@karljean-baptiste1195

Жыл бұрын

@@snapgab totally agree. Another movie on the list of world building and character building is The Irishman. A definite masterpiece

Personally I love the movie so much. I expected it to be outstanding but my mind was completely blown away. Loved the story, characters and world of Pandora but the visuals are a visual spectacle and for didn't expect 3d to feel so natural and give such immense depth. I also liked how in the middle of the movie we were exploring the water and learning about new animals and fishes. I was so mesmerized by it but also because I'm in love with Pandora so it was very interesting to me. And I'm really grateful they included it.

@hiawa23

Жыл бұрын

I was blown away by the amazing 3D visuals.

@Thisguy2532

Жыл бұрын

Same saw it in 3D it simply gave me the same feeling or similar to the first film I felt like yes we are exploring a different side of pandora the forest tribe goes to a sea tribe but damn it’s so good it’s beautiful

@kinghemirstir9390

Жыл бұрын

i agree on the visuals but only the visuals. the rest was just meh

@Jedimaster-el1ve

Жыл бұрын

@@kinghemirstir9390 the whole movie was crap Visuals make a real movie ffs the story is politically motivated again woke crap !!

@sotorc1448

Жыл бұрын

@@Jedimaster-el1ve please explain how this was woke crap? And there is literally no better looking movie on this planet. Which proves you didn't see it

2:21 Weta Australia is about sailing. Weta Workshop that's in New Zealand is about VFX

Love your reviews, just one thing Weta is in New Zealand not Australia

It was really relateable to me. Kids do dumb ass shit over and over. Pair that with the spiritual side and the CGI / relatability I loved it.

@angels8920

7 ай бұрын

Excuses

Going Saturday. Can't wait. Taking my dad too. This is why I go to the movies. For experiences like this. Top Gun, now this. Stuff meant for the big screen, sound, other fans etc. I'm pumped. Unwind for 3hrs....🤘🤘

@reeducated1281

Жыл бұрын

So bummed I missed too guns in theatres

It all comes down to writing. And Cameron turned out a weak script. He really did borrowed from three of his movies. And the plot was good the first time he used it ( first movie). Throwing in random characters like monkey boy and Sigourney's special pregnancy was strange and had no continuity with the two movies. Of course Sully's kids made sense because they were his kids. Yes it was nice to see the world again. The superior CGI was just that- superior. But it just seems like the best looking tv series ever at this point. Let me guess how the next movies will go- He's going to another tribe with skills unique to their region and then, here comes the humans trying to take another natural resource from them. Rinse/ repeat. He will do this for another movie before Sully is leader of the whole planet where they will have one final 3 + hour movie where they rally together (asemble!) to defeat the humans on earth (which probably won't happen) or both races come together and live happily ever after. Sounds about right.

WETA Workshop is in wellington New Zealand not Australia. I thought people from Canada would know that.

Simple but relatable story with good direction and breathtaking visuals. Actual 16 times the detail

@trickyDicky999

Жыл бұрын

4 x the size of avatar 1

@HBKshowstopper

Жыл бұрын

So you are saying Avatar "just works"?

@Z71990

Жыл бұрын

@@HBKshowstopper *Perfectly Works

@YuniorGamboa

Жыл бұрын

😆

Literally just got home from watching this about 5 minutes ago. Was 100% better than I had thought it was going to be.

Wish I had seen this first. I left after about 2 hours, was insane level of detail but felt I had seen all there was to see by that point and was over it. I will have to grab it again when its out.

Surfshark Sux in that when you sign up for the one year. YOU BETTER DOUBLE CHECK IT AGAIN to make sure it HAS NO AUTO RENEWAL which will sneak up on you when if you like me thought I click that it should not renewal automatically. I found out too late on mine as I got no reminder and when it cross the line over and took my next payment THEN it notify me about it and they make a big deal about it with customer services. You can cancel but they have a song and dance number to make you go thru to cancel it which is basically not on their site BUT THEY GIVE YOU A SPECIAL URL LINK to that special site page to cancel it. SO BE WARN TAKE NOTE.

I completely forgot about ferngully until you mentioned it, that makes so much sense and you've unlocked some memories of mine

@darthcinema4262

Жыл бұрын

Ferngully >Avatar

@vjbd2757

Жыл бұрын

​@@darthcinema4262 Nah. Avatar is Ferngully but not as cringe

@Blackemperess

Жыл бұрын

@@vjbd2757 Keep telling yourself that.

I’ve just seen it and went with no expectations. It was a lot better than I thought it would be and I’m invested in the Avatar universe again. Looking forward to Avatar 3.

@simonmultiverse6349

Жыл бұрын

Not going to watch Avatar 3 if it appears. Nasty violent at the end.

@kilik1

Жыл бұрын

"if it appears" mfer they filmed all of avatar 3,2 years ago

I loved it! I wish 3d TVs were still around so I can watch it in 3d when it finally comes out.

@tastymustard6234

Жыл бұрын

VR headsets and home projectors are a thing and do amazing 3D.

@yojoono

Жыл бұрын

I recommend watching 3D movies on VR headsets. The brightness and colour saturation is still there unlike when wearing 3d glasses, and you can make the screen as big as you want, though it'll depend on the resolution of the screen in the headset.

@endofwarmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@yojoono I can't believe I forgot all about that. I have tge psvr and an oculus.

OJ and Alex's veredicts Oj: 13:37 Alex: 15:13

I might be one of the few who was actually anticipating this, mainly because of how much I liked it as a kid. But seeing how they improved on their previous installment, I'm happy to see that good progress was made

@heetsees

Жыл бұрын

What'd you like about the 1st in this series, as a kid? Cgi characters doing cool stuff around cool graphical visual stuff? Visuals are cool. Plot and characters and intelligent writing must be nothing next to cool visuals.

@vevvev696

Жыл бұрын

@@heetsees listen dude, I love Plot and characters and intelligent writing, however sometimes I can afford to take a break and watch something that's just fun. Its okay to like 'dumb' action movies every once in awhile and enjoy them for what they are.

@kylerpointerify

Жыл бұрын

Bro millions of people are excited about this film. Don't listen to the extremely loud minority who devote their lives online hating on James Cameron simply because his work gives people joy. And they're miserable humans.

@kylerpointerify

Жыл бұрын

@@heetsees This kid is mad mad 🤣

@Jigolopuff

Жыл бұрын

@@heetsees The world building and pacing in the first film was so good, characters were okay but it really felt like an actual world. Plot was nothing original but not bad by any means.

I haven’t yet seen this, but I’ll definitely watch this more than twice on 3D. I LOVED the original Avatar, still do to this day, and I’m sure I’ll love this one as well.

@eliasvelasquez6327

Жыл бұрын

The best time was my fake bathroom brake

@markiv2942

Жыл бұрын

Avater is one of the most overhyped and overappreciated movies of all time.

@PrimedSnake

Жыл бұрын

@@markiv2942 can you not be happy with his own opinion rather than you trying to say its overhyped etc ....some people these days 🤦‍♂️

@NotBruceWayne.

Жыл бұрын

@@markiv2942 facts

@YouthoughtIwaslying

Жыл бұрын

I saw it last night and I’m probably going to see it again but with my family this time

I think the many qualms about the story issues fall by the wayside once you realize the movie is actually about Lo'ak and not Jake. Jake in Avatar 2 is more akin to Sarah Conner in T2 with Lo'ak being akin to John. Sarah Conner isn't the main character of T2, John is. Same with Avatar 2, they just have Jack as the opener/closer since the Avatar FRANCHISE is Jake's story.

WetaFX is New Zealand not Australia. It's the equivalent of saying something is American vs Canadian :P Majority was shot here too. The most cg shots in a film ever.

I love immersing myself in alien worlds. The immersion of an alien planet makes up for any weakness the story could have in my opinion

@GreggValue

Жыл бұрын

I agree. The spectacle of the movie is its first purpose. I also thought the story was more than acceptable. I think people get caught up in this expectation that blockbusters have to follow the same narrative guides, but obviously Avatar is about immersing you in the world

@geordirendum583

Жыл бұрын

World building is often snobbed by critics

@jlev1028

Жыл бұрын

If I barely remember anything about the first film, it doesn't.

@jlev1028

Жыл бұрын

@@GreggValue If that were true, Pandora - World of Avatar in Disney World should've been enough. Movies need substance, they're not just tech demos.

@foxskyful

Жыл бұрын

@@jlev1028 doesn't for you

So I saw this in HFR and wow this was absolutely nuts. The underwater benefits from it so heavily but the switches between 48 and 24 are a bit jarring and sometimes are a distraction. You want it to stay in either frame rate and it keeps jumping between

Idk why but I loved this movie so much. I am part Native American so I felt the whole energy and everything being connected more than the first. And the family dynamic hit too. I mean hell I saw this movie with my family. I’m excited for the third movie if they give it it a go

@Goomba_N64

Жыл бұрын

I'm native and I hate it.

@crow_g1639

Жыл бұрын

bro trying to make it about race also they are suppose to be African if you haven't notice again now every thing has to get political

@Altair4611

10 ай бұрын

what do blue people have to do with native americans

In defense of the village intimidation scene, I think that was a satirical reference to US tactics in Vietnam.

I can't say I was expecting much after 13 years but goddamn, it was excellent. It has the best CGI I've ever seen, and the plot was good enough to keep me interested throughout its ridiculously long runtime. James Cameron still knows how to make an incredibly entertaining movie

@locomotivetrain3797

Жыл бұрын

I agree I think a lot of people expected it to be a perfect film and it wasn’t but damn did it get close the whole time I was loving the movie

@luckymark571

11 ай бұрын

​@@locomotivetrain3797 same as a person who did not care about this movie but ended up watching it expecting a mediocre movie i was very suprised on how good it was

I'm with Joe. Wasn't expecting anything great. In my opinion, I loved this movie way more than the first, exactly because what Alex said: the first movie is just a repetition of a common movie/serie trope. This time the focus was more on the familie and this specific part of the world (the water/sea part). I thought at the first part of the movie "here we go again with the same stuff like tge first movie", but then you got the middle part, which was way more character building and potential setups. For people like OJ and Alex, this might be boring and unusual viewing this as a separate movie, but this is made with a universe of media content including a couple more movies in mind. First one was the pilot, checking if this IP would be welcomed by the public. The second one then deepens out the story and characters and the world and setting up storyplots for the future. This is not needed for a solo movie or a triology, but it is perfect for 8 movies and potentially other media.

@UnchainedEruption

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't that just disgust you? They don't care about making movies. It's all about building franchises and empires. More excuses to sell you the same old crap. People need to stop buying these things and support new ideas.

@Caelum_NLD

Жыл бұрын

@@UnchainedEruption That is a very negative way of looking at the future of the franchise. And as an 80's kid, I have to disagree with you on many lvls. There are many multibillion franchises that also have great movies/series and have awesome lore. Also, awesome things can have their origins from capitalism, like the Transformers, M.A.S.K., TMNT, Warhammer, Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors, basicly the whole 80s and 90s.

You can always count on Alex to give you the most concise analysis and breakdown of a film

@wescourtney9679

Жыл бұрын

I always can't wait for his opinion. Brutally honest and inspective.

@JackEverton101

Жыл бұрын

Bro he’s Who I come to hear from at this point, I just like the brutality of it no added points because they got a nice actor, no added points because it’s a franchise that he holds close to his heart

@juliandavis9711

Жыл бұрын

I do feel that he’s overly critical at times

@Jigolopuff

Жыл бұрын

@@juliandavis9711 sometimes it feels like he deducts points if its not what he likes personally , for instance he didnt care about the visuals in this movie when thats part of films...

@youtubeistryingtocensorme

Жыл бұрын

@@juliandavis9711 that’s because he’s trying not to look at it through the lens of a fanboy. He’s critiquing the movie. Thats what he’s supposed to do. He’s the foil to both Angry Joe who see it from a Fans perspective and the other Joe who sees it from a layman’s perspective.

2 tickets: $40 Popcorn and drink: $20 Look on your girlfriends face when she realizes she has poor taste in movies: priceless

I'm really hoping they shot enough footage from Pandora for Avatar 3, I can't imagine them making the trip out AGAIN to alpha centuri system, which will take another 12 years 😔

I feel like this was building on the world and for the upcoming avatar movies but it was really sweet to see avatar again

Just came out of the theatre, watched it in 4DX and i have never seen a movie look so beautiful it differs in many ways from the first movie and this movie to me felt like a setup for the other ones but i still loved the movie and are feeling a little of the old post avatar depression currently, movie left me wanting more and im very happy and glad we still have 3 more movies to go, movie did excellent in terms of immersing me within the world of pandora and i was in awe at how good the water scenes in this movie looked the movie itself was 3 hours of me just being taken back by the visuals and soundtrack and the movie even takes its time to have breaks in-between action and advancing the story to further immerse you within the movie, thoroughly enjoyed the movie and highly recommended movie and i simply cannot wait for the further 3 movies.

@GandRpictures

Жыл бұрын

Hey! I'm going to watch it tomorrow on 4DX and it will be my first time trying 4DX. So I want to know how was the 4DX? It feels this will be the perfect movie for a person first trying 4DX and with 3D should be crazy immersive.

@thepowerchannel

Жыл бұрын

@@GandRpictures it was amazing almost the entire movie i had water sprayed on me, wind blown on me even bubbles came out ! it was a really immersive experience and 4DX makes it that much more real.

@blackholesupersloth3276

Жыл бұрын

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@chandlerclark5372

Жыл бұрын

Please keep saying the word movie

@TacticalDimples

Жыл бұрын

It actually does feel like a setup once we reach the end. Now instead of running, it’ll probably be all out war against the humans in the next two films:

I agree with Joe here, I really like this film, but it was definitely a transition point where we are being introduced to this new cast of characters. However for the life of me I don't understand the other two's criticisms of the villains killing animals "just to be bad guys." Humans are capable of evil when they are trying to force others to do their bidding, it's just that simple. The Navi hold nature and by extension animals near to themselves culturally and emotionally, and the bad guys know this. It's certainly not a stretch that they would kill animals to try and strong arm the Navi to do their bidding in that context..

Movie was amazing! I loved everything about it! Personally, it didn't feel like a 3 hour movie, I was sad when it was over. The under water scenes were beautiful, I was awestruck. Can't wait till next movie!

This is gonna make for a great case study on how to make a successful sequel more than a decade later

@calebtheowl1516

Жыл бұрын

This is the third case study on how to do that by James Cameron lmao

@yogafrogz

Жыл бұрын

James Cameron always nails the sequel

@alphaexpress6881

Жыл бұрын

Did you not see Top Gun: Maverick?

@porterjones9564

Жыл бұрын

Topgun already did that

@Kazaanh

Жыл бұрын

Its literaly ARK 2 plot but no dinosaurs

I enjoyed this more than marvel movies.

I think this movie was shallow they relyed more on the visuals and forgot about the story. This just felt like a throw away just to set up the future movies. A lot of nothing happened the last hour felt like a new movie the water people got forgoten about

The timing of the movie was great, there's not alot of movies right now with strong and decently written family dynamics. And this movie coming out so close to Christmas seems like a perfect one to watch with the family

Oj and alex have the attention span of a navee child with a tik tok account

I loved the movie! Including the middle bit because I'm just a big scifi dork and love to really get a chance to explore the world they've created, not just the main story. The fact it was all in there is what makes you care about the characters I believe. When they don't have that sort of pacing people whinge that there was no character building lol can't win.

I intended to skip this one entirely. Nothing about it interested me in the trailers or the discussions. My girlfriend chose it last week as the movie for movie night so there is that. After watching it, I wish I could get those 3 hours back, honestly. I ended up seeing the movie in two sessions because I was bored as hell. I disagree with AJ for the most part. I'm more on Alex's and OJ's camp. I felt the story is basically the same as the first, but at least the first had the advantage that it was novel and maintained my interest for that reason. Villains motivation was terribly shown emotionally and felt 1 dimensional. Dialogue is one of my main problems. It kept taking me out of the movie every 10 minutes. The kids, in particular, I disliked the most, but the rest of the characters wasn't much better. It felt like written by a highscholer. The family dynamic could have been very interesting, Sully rising his children as soldiers, not kids. This was even set up early and in a believable way, but it was dropped right after and did not get a satisfying resolution. The whole "let's get to know the water navi tribe" story line, again, we had already seen in the first one so nothing really new there other than water creatures wich is not enough to maintain interest. I did not understand why leaving the forest navi was such a necessity when the stakes were the same with the water navi other than an excuse to introduce all these new things. The things I did like were the acting and delivery. Actors did great with what was handed to them. CGI, animation, and scenes were all top of the industry. The score was great, too. Not enough to carry a movie, much less a 3 hour one. I would not recommend seeing this. Go watch the first one instead if you're interested in the universe and story.

glad the joe trio still at it through all this

“Weta from Australia” ya lost me there

It's dissapointing to hear Joe saying "yea, there are problems, like the story, the dialogue, the pacing but 'dat look gooood'" therefore it's great. I think I'd be with Alex on this one, so I'm gonna pass and watch it on streaming at some point.

@Cenot4ph

Жыл бұрын

same here, I'm not at the age anymore that visuals are of much importance without a solid story to back it up. Alex seems to me to grasp that point much better than Joe ever does.

@Z71990

Жыл бұрын

Its just a simple story but simple isn't bad. And for a movie like Avatar, streaming is shit. Because its not like everyday films or like MCU films (which I myself watch in streaming because of disastrous phase 4)

@SemperVII

Жыл бұрын

​@@Cenot4ph Preach. Too old to watch movies at the theater for the visuals alone. Streaming it is.

@Bentzel75

Жыл бұрын

It’s good to hear that Joe acknowledges the problems though.

Weta studios is in NZ not Aus. Happy to take the credit as an Aussie tho Fun review

The most annoying thing in Avatar 2 was that some scene filmed in 48 frames instead of normal 24 I don’t mind because it was looks cool but mix with both was so confusing when next scene after 48 was 24 was feel like lagging game if you know what I mean you don’t have a time to adjust your brain for new frames because it was juggling between these two formats.

What Alex said about JC shitting on Marvel and then this, totally agree.

1:10 starts Final review below 8/10

@brokenwrench404

Жыл бұрын

👍🏼

This movie is BAD, story is very random and illogical felt like a setup for movie 3, felt like just a barrage of random cool vfx shots, the children were written by someone who was homeschooled and just continue to do stupid things just to push the story, every character lacks logic it goes on and on

Is this movie still 30fps? The stalling of the progress to 60fps movies is what killing theatres, because at home I can use frame interpolation solutions.