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Itsnnot level 3 if tou have to keep touching the wheel is it?
how many western china ev reviews do we need?
Can Tesla do this? Or is Elon Musk not sleeping well now.
LOOKS LIKE ALOT OF UN SOLD CARS JUNK CHINESE CRAP CARS
LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF CAPITALISED LETTERS, POOR GRAMMAR, AND BAD SPACING
America is sad that they literally can’t complete (I’m Australian)
America can't compete at all. They're afraid.
can we take out the back row?
I'm sure if you have the right tools you can.
can i buy one in the us?
That would be a no for now.
The world is not calling out for any EVs. The sooner they're consigned to history the better. Unreliable, unsafe, and not even good for the planet. Better off with a Co-op milk float.
Read the comments and tell me what you said still stands.
people should realize wat their doing by buying these cars....... like always they dont
People should realise what they're doing when they press the space key twice after every word.
‘Likely’ the source of the photographs. did you go around the entire country to ‘dispel’ this theory?? It’s not even a conspiracy, thousands of cars were made with early tech for taxis and car sharing. The companies have gone bust and the cars are dumped. You have done a good job at reporting the real situation in one site but it seems to have missed the point. If companies go bust with petrol/diesel vehicles, those vehicles are picked up by someone and reused, these vehicles are not wanted and as such they are just going to rot where they stand. You do not see grave yards full of nearly new fossil fuelled cars. As the tech continues to be improved, more and more of these graveyards will show up. Then there is the environmental impact and human rights which is attached to the creation of these useless vehicles. To say this is a non story is ridiculous kzread.info/dash/bejne/n2Sj0JSTd5ypdLA.htmlsi=Ixq18SryILmd21pz
While it may be a non-story to you, I'll point out that my video actually preceded the ABC video you shared by a week, and they basically took the exact elements reported in my video and parrotted them, namely that these were ride sharing vehicles, old ones (not nearly new), with outdated tech (EVs are still developing unlike petrol cars. No diesel cars in China by the way), and that the ownership and responsibility for these vehicles is difficult to decipher because they're companies that have gone bust. Apparently it was enough of a story for ABC to go and copy my video and report on it, and not even on the ground but with drone and stock footage that didn't even make clear if the cars were EVs or not. The Chana Eulove, seen quite prominently in one of their clips, was made as both and so the cars in the video could well have been petrol cars for all we know. As for the Kandi K10s, they never deserved to be on a road in the first place, very much representative of China's car industry around ten years ago. In my video, the BJEV EC3s were about 5 years old and crap. The Neta Vs were maximum 2 and, surprise surprise, they've since been sold off on a used market, which basically renders your point about that only being the case for petrol cars total BS. I personally don't think we will see an exponential rise in graveyards such as these because not only have the subsidies that helped fuel them gone, but the market for car sharing has also disappeared because, as I pointed out in the video, it's heavily flawed in China and indeed most places, and the cars are much, much better now than they were 5 years ago. There's no such thing as a basic EV that can't get over the air updates anymore in China, they're all decent, so the churn is gone. And no, I didn't go around the country to dispel this myth, I went to one site (that was used as the basis for lies about sales figures of EVs in another video) to see for myself how true it was and reported on what I saw. Again, before the ABC video. Climb back in your box, buddy
How can you say this knowing the life of an ev battery is at best 10-12 years? Do you think it’s a good idea to build millions of cars that will by default be heading to the graveyard in that short a time frame? Yes the battery tech will get better over time but we will still have the problem of disposing of millions of ev batteries. You concede this yourself with EC3’s. Like mobile phones it won’t take long for the current ‘top of the line’ models to become obsolete And we haven’t even touched upon the carbon footprint, mining the precious metals to build them in the first place. I genuinely applaud your approach, actually going to China and reporting on what you saw as an opposed to what we are told, but the heart of the problem remains. EV cars are not the solution and other than emissions they have a far greater impact on the environment than is necessary. There are many hydrogen powered cars now being produced proving the concept. They produce zero waste and are free to run. (Thats why they are being largely ignored)
@nervoussystemnut Well no, again you're dealing with myths. Hydrogen is not 'free to run' because to get hydrogen, you first have to split it from something else which requires a reaction. That reaction requires energy, exactly the same as filling batteries does, so you're still needing to generate the energy one way or another. At the same time, batteries are fully recyclable and there are many places in the world, China being the biggest, that are doing this recycling. It's not perfect yet because infrastructure for that takes time but so did the creation of all the oil free refineries and the same would be true for places that need to create all hydrogen we would need. As for batteries, there's no proof at all that they last at best 10-12 years. There are cars out there from the very early days of electric still running on theirs and having driven millions of miles. The main problem I see with batteries right now is that if one cell fails, the pack is dead. That can't continue, we have to make it so that cells can be individually replaced. And yes, the mining of materials isn't great, though the requirement to use those rare metals is being reduced with things like sodium ion batteries, but nor is the mining of oil and the enormous oil spills that regularly causes. Over the course of just about 36,000 miles (can't remember the exact number I read recently), an EV can reach parity with the emissions of a petrol car from well-to-wheel, and every EV should reach that figure no problem. Every car ends up in a graveyard mate, they're all over the world. Yes, some get looked after and live until they're 50 years or sometimes more, but the vast majority end up getting sent to scrapyards and either crushed or kept for parts. EVs are no different. They cause no additional environmental damage being sat still than any other car because they're not dripping oil or battery fluids, the packs are sealed. As for cars becoming obsolete, I think it will be less of an issue over time as I stated. The reason the Neta Vs could be moved on was because they had the tech and the ability to be updated that most EVs are using now. The EC3s didn't. They had tiny screens, no OTA updates, and were specced to be bottom of the line with those blank switches where the feature isn't installed. They're best off having the battery recycled or repurposed as home energy storage like a Tesla Powerwall, and the rest scrapped like petrol cars. As EV tech matures, the gains will be much smaller, and we'll end up with cars like a Vauxhall Corsa that can be run for years without much tech for students, learners and people on a budget, and the newer stuff with fancier tech, faster charging, etc. It's just the progress of mankind.
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Looks like a good city car. Park anywhere.
It is. It's ideal for that purpose.
Great video, it’s a total shame the US banned Chinese EVs.
Well they didn't quite ban them, they put prohibitively high import taxes on them. The only ones who will suffer are the poor citizens of the US who just want to get into an affordable EV and, with their industry focused on enormous piles of sh!t like the Hummer, they'll never get them.
IF it comes to Oz, it might be around 30K. Not really affordable in these hard times. Good looking car tho.
Let's see. Hopefully it'll be cheaper than that
this has to be the absolute best new car for a first time buyer it seems to fit every need and it seems very easy to drive
It's exactly that, and quite a bit of fun as well. I want one for myself to potter around in.
Hilarious, derogatory comments usually come from a place of guilt.
So what you're saying is you're not willing to come see for yourself? That you have no knowledge at all of this industry? That you can categorically prove that what I'm saying isn't the case and that I accepted some money for this video? Doesn't sound like you have a leg to stand on until you can buddy. Keep coming. I'll wait.
Thanks for an unbiased, professional and balanced review that is useful and informative.
That's what we do. Thanks for watching.
Just spent time in China and holy crap they have a lot of very cool electric cars, and they're GOOD. The rest of the world better catch up fast.
Best way to know is to see and try them. Glad you can confirm what we're telling you.
Propaganda
Proof? You've tried the car yourself I assume? Or you're just talking bullish!t because it's all you can bring to the conversation.
Yeah right, how much were you paid.
Welcome to come see for yourself mate. Suppose you prefer to believe people who've never even put feet on the ground in this location, which makes you dumber than most.
All Chinese cars look the same plus very plastically. All show no dealer parts and questionable reliability. Plus very expensive.
Same comment twice now. Starting to look like spam Phil. You should try sitting in them sometime, then tell me some cars that aren't very plasticky. Like Benz and Audi for example...oh wait.
Amazing. Just amazing.
Not bad, eh?
@@InsideChinaAuto Make a self driving for Indian Road now. LOL! I really want to see if any AI is remotely capable for that. 😅😂
@aniksamiurrahman6365 Now that's a challenge.
Dieses Auto würde in der BRD bei einem PREIS VON ca. 7 bis 8.000,- tausendfach verkauft !!!!! Nur die Politiker wollen das nicht !!! VW und arrogante Hersteller werden geschützt !!!!! Wie lange noch ???????????
The reckoning is coming my friend.
Sorry all the cars look very plastic all the same. It's a pass from me Chinese cars are all show no reliability. No dealers where I am. Also they are not so low price but cheaply made.
Don't know which ones you've been introduced to but I guarantee you're wrong. There's about 500 cars here and you're saying they're all the same. I don't think you even watched the video, or you've got mirror lenses inside your glasses.
Its human-machine comunication is the best.yes the only best.
It's a great car.
跟fsd还是没得比，但在中国是第一
Suppose you've tried FSD in China have you?
Thanks looks great- will it handle hills ok without slowing down ? What is the minimum power requirement to negotiate hills in coastal tourist regions for example?
Don't worry, it'll handle hills no problem at all. More than enough power.
My question is it Safe??????? Chinese ev car are notorious in catching fire
One model of BYD is notorious for that but the reputation has spread to all of them. I guarantee they're less likely to catch fire than a Range Rover. Did you know that no Zeekr has ever had a battery fire either?
Price and range is important. Geely and byd are becoming competitively priced electric vehicles.
They're very good, both of them, offering real high quality and high-tech products.
Never buy a Chinese Car. Telsa
Ooh, we've found a shareholder everyone. Everyone point and laugh.
Toyota where your EV Alphard 😂
It'll come with a solid state battery. In 20-never.
L7 MAX car owner
Must be a happy guy
Twice the price in Europe. No pink/burgundy color. The Smart #3 is the same but maybe even better. Perhaps not as luxurious (but not by far), I wasn't able to test the Zeekr X it since it's not available in France yet.
That's a shame. They should bring the full selection to Europe.
Angry panda headlamps 😂
Aggression for a little guy.
Someday the Chinese will start to make their own unique vehicles of their own instead of copying other manufacturers. I know someday they will actually do that.
Some day grown men will stop calling themselves after cartoon characters.
@@InsideChinaAuto such a true statement 🤣
16:00 Charging at 415 amp speed. OMG.
Fast as hell this thing.
Quick Charging kill my phone battery for only 2 year. I don't want it happen to a car.
Think car batteries are a bit more resilient and designed for this.
@@InsideChinaAuto No. There is a reason the car battery is not charged to 100 for durability and not discharged to 0. Quick Charging is like flowing water to a pool. a steady flow will not overflow the pool. But a storm will make the pool flooding. Overheating and battery chemical degradation is a common problem in charging.
Thanks for the walkthrough- I live in Thailand and I am looking for the small mini ev to rent to villa guests instead of a scooter.wuling ev, chery ice cream… that kind of size.do you have a link to a video- what’s the best?
If you can get a Geely Panda Mini (video on my channel), I'd go for that. A little bigger than both those you mentioned so better legroom in the back. Plus it charges faster. If not, the Wuling and the Chery are as good as each other.
Are the Chinese models constructed by slave labor?
Very much so. The robots in China's highly automated factories don't get paid a cent. It's a travesty. They just want to live.
Ford e transit needs a 101 mah hour battery TABARNAK
It does.
Blue LEDs aren't inherently hard to make. They were inherently hard to invent being the last LEDs to be mastered, but they are not at all hard to make compared to any other. Most cheap electronics today are coated in blue LEDs, I swear there's almost an obsession with making them. Honestly I kinda wish blue LEDs were harder to make, it's the most obnoxious color in the dark. I usually end up putting electrical tape over things with them because they're infuriating. Just in my room right now I have blue LEDs on a $10 USB splitter, a $20 power strip, a $6 AC-USB adapter, a $15 wireless charger, and couple of components in my computer I'm typing this on. I thin it's more likely they have a certificate for "consistent" color output, not that they're good at making them or better than most.
They likely don't make them at all. The point was it's a more complex process than other LED colours so I was told.
Correction, it does not have better aerodynamics than a Porsche Taycan or Model 3, it has a better drag coefficient. Drag coefficient doesn't inherently mean it has less drag, the coefficient is multiplied by the surface area of the vehicle so in reality it is likely far lower. I saw people making the same claim with the Model Y vs Model 3, but just looking at the range estimates shows how that's clearly not true, the Model Y has the same coefficient, but the vehicle is bigger so has worse aerodynamic drag.
You must be fun at parties.
Looks like an Oldesmobile silhouette. Was a fancy car when it came out. Though not really a fan of the screens only control on this thing.
Li do have more physical controls than most, usually for the things you'll use most frequently.
The US already announced that it would impose heavy tariffs since it might destroy the US auto manufacturers.
Who ever heard of a world where the US was afraid? This is the new reality. They can't compete anymore.
This looks good, but it certainly looks like they took inspiration from the Hyundai Staria
I think they just took inspiration or direction from aerodynamics. In person this looks much more lithe and far less vanlike than the Staria
while us increase their EV import tax to 100%🙂
Protectionism never works. The US will get left behind.
What a brilliant car! Unlike the stupid Tesla Cybertruck ❤
I tend to agree.
These cost about 20K USD in Colombia
How does that compare to other local choices?
How is that car pulling 600a 700v through that cable that's way to thin no way
Definitely doing it.
This is crazy! I want to get one
Available in Chinese dealerships, or for export if you're in the right country and you really want one. Can put you in touch with an exporter if you decide you seriously want one.