Inside A Chinese EV Graveyard - Uncovering The Truth In Person
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Recent press reports and certain prominent KZreadrs and Twitter accounts have been making some pretty strong accusations about Chinese EV graveyards, claiming false registrations to inflate numbers, environmental concerns, and corruption. But how much truth is there in the words? We visited one of the featured sites in person to see how much basis there was to the claims, and found there's even more to these sites than you might think.
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Really appreciate you for doing actual investigation on the ground instead of making up wild speculations and spreading false information like most people tend to do. Hopefully these evs can be restored and sold to other markets for cheap or be used for scrap instead of sitting there and rotting away.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
I believe in the truth where I can find it so this was too good a chance to miss as it's not far from Shanghai. Honestly I wanted to see if it was really true or not, and of course some is and some isn't. But we're here, not in South Africa making videos with negative intentions, so I can go see for real.
@joem0088
10 ай бұрын
If there is a profit to be made, rest assured that someboody is good to it.
@MAR771N
10 ай бұрын
@@joem0088 yea unfortunately there will always be a ton of money to be made in spreading false information and hatred.
@joem0088
10 ай бұрын
@@MAR771N Yes, but I wasn't refering to the click bait business. I was thinking of the business of refurbishing these parked cars into some kind of use. Someone who figures out the way will make a profit.
@MAR771N
10 ай бұрын
@@joem0088 ah okay i misunderstood. Hopefully someone will come up with a solution quickly then since it might be too late if they wait too long.
Thanks for going there. Glad there are still a handful of people who care about old-fashioned things like truth.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
There's very few of us left mate. Still hoping one day the tide will turn and ordinary will enter the conversation again.
@christophernuku5575
10 ай бұрын
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@Metapharsical
10 ай бұрын
😆 @BobBogaert's profile pic Of course y'all simpin , you got that yellow fever 💀
@terryvanderhoeven2148
10 ай бұрын
Good to hear true facts.
@gbenay
10 ай бұрын
@@InsideChinaAutoHow much are you getting pay by the CCP to regurgitate their propaganda? I have seen hundreds of other brand new cars sitting in fields. Did you know that Chinese car manufacturers are counting sale to dealership as an actual sale? Please do your homework my guy.
We are sick of these propaganda. Thanks for telling the truth
@InsideChinaAuto
9 ай бұрын
You're welcome.
So sad that lying has become the norm for so many people who have an agenda. As Winston Churchill said, (in a time of relative honesty): 'A lie can get halfway round the world before the truth has got its pants on.'
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
As true today as it was then. More so even with the Internet.
@beyondfossil
10 ай бұрын
That is true unfortunately. Coincidentally, the biggest perpetrator of this most recent China junkyard fiasco lie is also named "Winston".
@flakedao
10 ай бұрын
This is the best comment to CCP propaganda video. +1
@BioniqBob
10 ай бұрын
Reminds me of an old saying, I think it goes "Liar, Liar, Pants on Backwards" or something like that.
@flakedao
10 ай бұрын
@@BioniqBob I think you mean "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." In this case i have provided what we all know to be truth, and some are pretending like they don't know.
Please don't stop doing reporting like this again (if a situation arises).
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Thank you. If chance comes, I'll do more again.
@user-mj9tr3ym5t
10 ай бұрын
@@InsideChinaAuto🎉🎉🎉
@matpk
9 ай бұрын
@@InsideChinaAutobut you don't have Chinese passport😂
@InsideChinaAuto
9 ай бұрын
@@matpk Why do I need one?
Finally we got the thruth about this with evidences. Thanks for this because the fake videos talking about this spreaded away all over the world, including Europe and we needed answers.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Indeed they did. I genuinely wanted to know too so I went to find out.
@Markcain268
10 ай бұрын
You can sleep at night now! Lol
@q3y6
10 ай бұрын
Did you. This is his version of the truth, absolutely nothing to prove this is correct.
@tokyosundeiru2006
10 ай бұрын
On a lovely sunny day the car dump looks almost picturesque! I wonder if anyone has thought of making it into a tourist site?
@jrkr7357
10 ай бұрын
ok...ok....China ev collapsed already.....there are at least hundreds of ev graveyards of this size everywhere in China cities....... you be happy and go celebrate and treat yourself to a good meal....
Thanks so much for this informative video. It's not news that lots of selfmedia vloggers like to exaggerate things and even fabricate facts to attract attention.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Indeed it isn't. The news is when someone counters it with facts because facts are in short supply these days.
Thanks for doing this. The original video has been broadcasted by quite a few KZreadrs. Some say those cars are for fake sales. But your video definitely debunks that false claims. Good job!
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
I was curious too, wasn't sure what to expect when I got there, but it wasn't exactly as stated and the original piece lacked context.
@ianlouden7939
10 ай бұрын
Corruption is fairly common in China, not sure if the video you saw was the same as the one I did but the ones I saw were clearly new. The truth is not so clear, more than likely there are a mix of new vehicles and those from ex car share schemes. The CCP were heavily subsidising "new energy vehicles", usually when any government do these special schemes they get abused by crooks making a fast buck, this is the reality of the world we live in. China historically had limits on the age of vehicles (same as Japan) this was not good for the environment as perfectly good serviceable vehicles got scrapped ( dumped in fields).
@SuperiorNatoDoctrine
10 ай бұрын
@@ianlouden7939brainless bot trying hard to cope. You want us to believe your biases over someone who went to the ground to verify. Lmaoooo . It shows just how difficult it is to unlearn propaganda and biases.
@ianlouden7939
10 ай бұрын
@@SuperiorNatoDoctrine its been reported on from a number of sources, why is this one 100% correct but others are not?
@ianlouden7939
10 ай бұрын
Look up who sponsors Inside China Auto and tell me this is a 100% independent factual report! My original comment was giving the benefit of the doubt to this report but now I am pretty sure these cars are new, making a car look old by throwing a drink bottle and a few leaves into a car doesn't mean it's old. The thousands of cars in the distance could be anything, they are too far away to tell what they are. As the CCP don't like any negative news getting out I will assume this video is NOT factual.
Mike. Thanks for doing this video. I saw the fake news from KZread and was beginning to doubt China EV market sales. U did the world a great service for reporting the truth. Just subscribed to ur channel. Thanks again.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Hey no worries mate. Glad you enjoyed it.
There’s so much rubbish spouted on KZread and it’s just created to win views. And most people believe it. It’s always the lone voice who is right. Thank you for this honest report
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No problem David. Thanks for the lovely comment.
Appreciate your respect for truth. I hope the people who put out fake videos have a conscience and will retract them.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Can only say good luck with that. You'll be hoping for a long time.
@Zerpentsa6598
10 ай бұрын
@@InsideChinaAuto You are right. That man has no honour or respect for truth.
Thank god somebody is at last telling the truth. I am obviously British but I follow the car market worldwide very closely because I work with many in the
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Glad you appreciate it mate.
Great video. Not only being factual, but providing some detailed info and even some context. Bravo! I have seen several critiques of the initial inflammatory video. But none of them had this fortuitous access to the site, and none mentioned the unsold imports from VW group, or the infamous Toyota BZ4X.
@edgy21
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's a lot of unsold Toyota cars.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Things I only discovered when I got there. I'm not sure the VWs are imports, they make those models here, but the Audis, Toyotas and Hondas I'm not so sure. I'll have to check. Only way to see what's real is to go see. Luckily I had the chance and it's open for anyone to go in.
@tren133
10 ай бұрын
@@InsideChinaAuto It is hilarious all those sensationalist videos with ominous music about "things the CCP DON"T want you to know about this massive auto graveyard!!!!". Meanwhile the Chinese government probably has no idea about this place, and even a random white dude like you can just roll up and stroll right in!
@HermanWillems
2 ай бұрын
Bz4x is a bad EV.
Great reporting, thank you very much for you effort to deliver the truth! Well done!!
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No worries Chris. I was in the area for filming and curious myself, seemed only logical to go take a look.
Hey Mark, I did watch the vid. about the EV graveyard and it was a jaw-dropped news and I started to question China's EV sales NO. and I almost lost faith to China's EV market or Chinese gov. thank you so much to clear all the mess for us. You have done sth much bigger and greater. That's the reason why your reviews are the best and nobody comes close in my eyes.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Haha, very much appreciate those comments. Thank you.
@ohsnapsonbro4260
10 ай бұрын
Written like a classic wumao. Lmao 'hey mark, I did watch the vid' Sure bro.....that's exactly how we talk 🤣😂 Jaw-dropped news right?
@jacksmith-mu3ee
10 ай бұрын
@@ohsnapsonbro4260so u agree he WU ur MA in her 0 So prove him wrong. 😂😂
@dexorne9753
7 ай бұрын
@@ohsnapsonbro4260everyone is a native English speaker right? 😂 Take your meds lil bro
@ohsnapsonbro4260
7 ай бұрын
@@dexorne9753 yeah neither am I. Still.... Jaw-dropped news right? Wumao much bud?
Thanks for investing time to research the facts behind the superficial headlines! Greatly appreciated! 👍
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No problem Mike. I had the chance to go find this place after somebody mentioned it, I hunted it on Baidu Maps, and went to see for myself. I too was curious.
I'm amazed you got close enough to video this as I would think it's on private property, obviously not
@dontwastetimetoday493
10 ай бұрын
Almost as if its set up
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Walked, well drove, straight in. I was surprised too, I really thought it would be a hole in the fence job.
@kennygray2871
10 ай бұрын
CCP don’t just employ Chinese 🤫
@kamofalwin3957
10 ай бұрын
@@dontwastetimetoday493 That's because in China, you can leave it unattended and it won't get stolen, in US, it's ripe for the taking.
Very professional and informative video. Thank you for disseminating truth online unlike the others.
@InsideChinaAuto
8 ай бұрын
You're welcome.
Thats an amazing reveal! Thanks for the clarification from the outrageous initial investigation regarding these abandoned vehicles.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No problem.
Thank you for adding context to the original poster's video because at first I believed what they were saying, but now after getting your take it is clear that the original poster was trying to spin a narrative.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
As so many are these days. Apparently it makes money.
Thank you for the honesty. Agree, ask a person in the country who is familiar.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No problem mate
Now that is journalism. Simple leg work and verification, well done.
@InsideChinaAuto
9 ай бұрын
Sometimes you have to just go and see things in person.
Thank you for that information, I saw the video too, why would a person waste time creating misinformation it's beyond me.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Because misinformation and extreme agendas pay sadly.
Its just a small graveyard. In western countries, there are tens of thousands of repo or used cars at auction yards.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Of course. They don't make headlines though, eh?
@ouethojlkjn
10 ай бұрын
I remember visiting relatives in America in the mid-80s, and my uncle took me to a car auction where honestly in any direction, field after field, there were cars for sale. Some were Porsche some were local American but every single car of every value you could imagine as far as the eye could see
@All2Skitzd
10 ай бұрын
I've worked at the auctions in Dallas, cars was constantly being cycled and besides some of the repo cars, could move under their own power.
@stephencrowther524
10 ай бұрын
@@InsideChinaAuto Because they are common knowledge. This is not about denial of car graveyards,but about the untruths posted about this specific one.
@rickschritt1616
10 ай бұрын
Yes but they don't have lithium ion batteries in them and there are auto Wreckers along with car crushers in place to recycle all of those ICE vehicles 🤔
I've seen the other video on YT that you are referring to (although there is more than just that one) and it is a stark contrast to what you portray here. It's scary that misinformation/disinformation is allowed on this scale. Worldwide, we need a clampdown on the BS so that we get a clear indicator of the state of the planet and its resources. Waste management is more important than ever these days, and living practises need a thorough review. I'll just throw one example into the ring. Television sets. Why on earth do we need so many options? Massively oversized screens, harmful chemicals within and ultimately, they are nothing more than something you look at for an hour or two to fill a gap in your day. In Costco they have upwards of 20 different sets, all showing the same crap. This needs sorting out sooner rather than later.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
I'd love to believe we have what it takes as a society to have a reasoned conversation on that exact subject but my faith in our collective humanity perished long ago.
@Metapharsical
10 ай бұрын
But in regards to waste management, the conclusion of the other videos are correct. These outdated BEVs are not going to be recycled . This is the Modus Operandi of China - take an idea that makes short-term profits, mass produce that commodity, abuse trade relations to push out competitors, nationalize industry, go bust, repeat, with no regards to the environmental impact.
@ahmadahmal2942
4 ай бұрын
These stuff is everywhere and its even worst in other places like US and Japan kzread.info/dash/bejne/hHptlcOsd7mfotI.html
Once, long ago, I drove through Nevada and southern California and along the world's largest airplane parking lot! Amazing site - some planes without engines, without tails, most without brands (you could detect KLM blue 😅, but most were white) and I could imagine some totally untrue stories as well. Social Media are for the ego's of the publisher - not at all reporting so one grain of salt is not enough at all! On the other hand, some more openness with China would make people understand each other more - in general. Such articles would then, possibly, been quickly disregarded by clarifications like yours. And this video in that sense helps mutual understanding a lot! Hope that these assets find a way to good use. Thanks for the great on site (!) vlog!
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Cheers Nas. We are indeed a divided world, we don't often listen to each other enough. My part here is tiny but it's what I had a chance to do.
@AWildBard
10 ай бұрын
I've seen that a few times in CA. Way out in the middle of the desert. Although there might be an Airforce base nearby, I really can't remember.
@toyotaprius79
10 ай бұрын
That's probably the same scrap yard that crushed the EV1s...
@AWildBard
10 ай бұрын
@@toyotaprius79 I think maybe the post above is referring to an airplane graveyard near Victorville, Ca. But the EV1 was sent to the GM proving grounds, which is in Arizona, near Yuma. If you were coming from or going to Nevada, you probably would not go through Yuma, which is next to the Mexican border and pretty far from the Nevada border.
@Metapharsical
10 ай бұрын
Shouldn't it be Chinese that come forward and share their stories? Oh wait, the CCP blocks their citizens from accessing the outside world thru The Great Firewall 🤔 So yeah, all I ever see is the uncensored horrors of China because that's the only leaks that aren't curated China State media propaganda of CGTN or Global Times
Thanks for your informative accurate assessment. There was a lot of hyperbole including the "rotting away", which gives pause for thought about veracity
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Veracity is usually a tool that's used to make up for any real facts, it's just bluster. I have an old Mini and that is genuinely rotting away at the back of my Dad's field so I know what rotting looks like. These definitely aren't yet, but in time they will if not disposed of properly.
Thanks for doing this, I had a feeling that serpentza was lying about it and here you are, substantiated my suspicion. You are, sir, a bloody legend.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Haha, just a guy with a camera and some actual knowledge of this stuff. He was right on the car sharing cars but given he's been out the country a while now, he could never understand why those old cars have no route back to usefulness or ownership.
@matpk
9 ай бұрын
@@InsideChinaAutoBut you don't have Chinese passport😂
@InsideChinaAuto
9 ай бұрын
@@matpk And then?
Subscribed, decent video Yellow peril is a hot commodity again now that China is the world leading automotive market and EV competitor...
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Cheers. Super basic video this. I promised I'd make it so I did but my bread and butter is the car reviews, didn't really have the time to make this as decent as it could have been. Just sticking to the facts.
@toyotaprius79
10 ай бұрын
@@InsideChinaAuto can't go wrong with that recipe
Thank you, Mark! Much appreciated your efforts and vid.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Cheers Jacob.
Need more of these investigations, we are a few who still care about facts. Thank you !
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Will see what opportunities come about in future. Thanks for watching.
I did watch the video you are referring to. Thanks for putting things into perspective.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No problem.
I guessed the truth was closer to what you are saying. Some people are over the top negative and really sensational when it comes to China. Great video, thanks.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Tell me about it.
Thanks for that. In those videos I commented that there was no dust on the windows even though it was in a rural area, There was no long grass between the vehicles. Therefore they were put there recently. You have solved the problem of why they were there- ride sharing. Others lacked a spare part in manufacturing. Others were bank repossessions..
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Indeed. The vast majority are from bust companies that tried something that didn't work. Once bust, presumably assets get seized and need dealing with. As of yet, if seems most haven't been dealt with, likely because it's not economical to do anything with them. Eventually it will have to be sorted though, at the very least having the batteries removed.
@steveblomefield9513
10 ай бұрын
@@InsideChinaAuto The tradition with failed Chinese goods is to dump them in Africa at low prices.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
@steveblomefield9513 Quite possibly. Don't know enough about that to comment though I do feel bad if these are the cars they're getting. The Neta Vs wouldn't be so bad, they're basic but OK and relatively recent, but the BJEVs not so much.
@steveblomefield9513
10 ай бұрын
@@InsideChinaAuto Whenever there are new technologies, there is usually a craze of new companies that are startups. In Chine there were 500 EV companies. Now most of them go bust, some of them are merged with other companies and fade from history. After 40 years only a handful of companies remain that have all the patents and have a known trusted brand. The surviving companies have created deflation, where they are able to mass market their product at cheaper prices [lower prices, razor thin prices, bring a greater volume of buyers, creating greater .volume of profits]. This creates deflation. We see this with tesla who, because of greater volume of slues is able to lower prices but yet have incredible profits because of greater volumes. They also get brand recognition. Thus customers desert other companies and rush to the cheaper, better tesla. Because of greater profits, tesla is able to manufacture more charging stations, have better electronics, have better software, learns more manufacturing lessons, improves manufacturing methods , all the while getting better and better. Other companies get left behind and go bust. There is nothing wrong with seeing a field of 5000 unsold cars. It is normal with new technology. In my day there were 500 computer manufacturing startups. Now there are only a handful, but the ones we have have razor thin margins but greater profits. Today we have AI startups, a veritable fleas nest of startups. They will be merged with other companies and only a few will remain. Having 490 causalities is normative and there is no shame in that.
@flakedao
10 ай бұрын
... and they all have active license plates. No one scraps a car with the plate, you keep the plate with you because getting a plate alone can be very difficult in the large cities.
Excellent on-the-ground investigative work. Keep it coming. Subscribed.
@InsideChinaAuto
9 ай бұрын
Cheers Steve.
Thank you for bringing the truth into the light, I wonder what might happen to these EVs... let's hope these do not rot in the wild instead of getting use somewhere else
@InsideChinaAuto
9 ай бұрын
You're welcome. I'm curious myself what will happen to them. Might go check on them again next time I'm in Hangzhou.
Brilliant! Thanks you so much for clearing up the blatant misinformation out there. 🙂
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No worries. Somebody should.
Thanks for revealing the truth about this.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No problem.
Thank you for this information. The truth is always respected and appreciated.
@InsideChinaAuto
9 ай бұрын
You're welcome. Had to go see it for myself.
Thanks for the info and the pictures. Not everything is rosy over there, but facts are facts. Waiting for the next-one?
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Cheers Olaf. Let's see what can be investigated that fits in around my reviews. Barely had time to make this to be honest, I've got a bunch of car reviews waiting for me to edit.
It’s actually sad to see such things happened and it happens all over the world unfortunately. Many thanks for reporting and put the right spot on incorrect information. Generally speaking I also want to compliment and comment you for your in deep review and analysis of the Chinese car industry and its fascinating developments. Sincerely hope to see some of them (which appears to come) in Europe and offers a solid and productive competition. Cordialement
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, I'm glad you like the content. And yeah, it is sad to see this. Hopefully they get recycled.
@Metapharsical
10 ай бұрын
It may happen elsewhere, but in China pollution and environmental negligence is on a whole different scale than anywhere else. You're dreaming if you think China will do the environmentally responsible thing. It's only about short term profits and flashy projects to entice investors. See the Tofu Dreg Real Estate projects flooding and crumbling apart . I hope I never see a Chinese vehicle in my country, especially any of their shoddy EV knockoff brands that have flooded the market and will be abandoned in a matter of months/years.
@momokui
10 ай бұрын
@@Metapharsical brainwashed sheep detected! You should stop watching greyed out and dimmed video about China à la western media
@jrkr7357
10 ай бұрын
ok...ok....China ev collapsed already.....there are at least hundreds of ev graveyards of this size everywhere in China cities....... you be happy and go celebrate and treat yourself to a good meal....
Fascinating! Great video - I’d love to see more like this!
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it. If opportunities come, I'll take them on.
@Metapharsical
10 ай бұрын
@@InsideChinaAutoI'm sure there's more white monkey jobs in your future if you don't criticize the CCP 👍 They're gonna need all the PR help they can get when they invade Taiwan
Good video. Thanks for your work in finding out what this was.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Thank you.
Thank you for shedding light of truth.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No problem.
Found your channel yesterday after the e sport coupe (neta gt, is this same car maker as with these videos , just as you said 5-6 years later and much better?)and watch many videos this night and was pleasantly surprised about this debunking video! (: man keep your quality up, really enjoy the insights into china auto like your channel name states ^^
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Glad you found us mate and glad you like the videos. Neta has been like watching evolution in real time. Their first V was so bad, almost made from aftermarket parts, but what they're making now is lightyears better.
So, if I'm understanding you correctly, this confirms that there are indeed a lot of "discarded" EVs sitting around in China due to the failure of car-sharing companies, which largely sprang up to take advantage of government subsidies. However, there aren't nearly as many as the original video (by 'serpentza') claims, and they are NOT in fact leaking chemicals all over the place. (Btw, those batteries are indeed recyclable, and will probably be "harvested" in the not-too-distant future.)
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Basically right, yes, though I'm not sure what subsidies were being given out for car sharing schemes, if any, they'd be more likely for sales of cars but I'm not an expert on what subsidies there are/were. Clearly if there ever were, there aren't any anymore because nobody is rushing into this space. Bear in mind most people got into the 'sharing' game not for money but for the value of the data. Knowing where people go and when is big business if done right.
Thank you gentlemen for enlightening us.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No problem mate.
I saw that video a few weeks ago, got suckered in. Saw this one purely by chance. Excellent work thanks!
@wafudave6041
10 ай бұрын
Are you sure you are not being suckered in again?
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No worries mate. It's easy to do. Some of what he said was right but lacking in context but the 10,000 Neta Vs part was way way off.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Ooh, we've caught a live one Geoff.
@johnsmith-cw3wo
10 ай бұрын
@@wafudave6041 go back to SerpentZA
Thanks for investigating and sharing the truth
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
You're welcome
Man you're crazy, going online and making nuanced content that attempts to present things as they really are. You're a true radical in this day an age.
@transformerstuff7029
6 ай бұрын
gotta be crazy to believe any of this yea. China is dumping EV's.
@InsideChinaAuto
6 ай бұрын
Haha. Can you imagine? The nerve of it.
@JonySmith-bb4gx
5 ай бұрын
@@transformerstuff7029why don't u prove it. Should be easy for u Name of the field ? Car model ? Company name ?
@transformerstuff7029
5 ай бұрын
@@JonySmith-bb4gx oh you can still see my comment? that is impressive. I can't even see it anymore......insidechinaauto deleted it......or something...
@50shadesofcantstopeating54
4 ай бұрын
@@JonySmith-bb4gxyeah right. When I saw this account name Inside China Auto, not sure he tell the truth
Excellent on the ground reporting! Newly subbed!
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much.
Thanks for providing first hand information about this.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No problem. I was lucky to see somebody's tip on the location and it's close enough to go check out.
Appreciated your fact check report as it is rare and valuable these days !🙏
@InsideChinaAuto
8 ай бұрын
You're welcome David.
Thank you for giving us the truth
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No problem. This is just one location, I can't apply the results to other places, but I wanted to see it for myself because I didn't believe Neta needed to falsely register cars so I went to find out.
Thank you so much for doing this.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No problem. You got some EV industry going on in Jamaica? That's awesome.
Thanks, great journalism
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Just going checking out the reality really and adding it to lived experience, but I also wanted to know how true it was from the photos shared online.
Good to hear this. To me, I was shocked by that story, but this clears a lot about how and why. Very good to hear bikes and subways and trains dominate over cars. The US could rethink it's car driven mind. BTW, hope here it does not start any fire...... damn that would be a mess.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Not just car driven mind but truck driven mind.
@RealButcher
10 ай бұрын
@@InsideChinaAuto Oh yes... the allmighty F150 and brothers... ;-(
Thanks for this! I had to go to every video about this "abandoned ev" telling the facts and truth... but yeah a bigger brand should buy them and repurpose them like geely, gac, saic, changan or BYD even if it it for home purposes...
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
That they should. Make something useful out of them.
thank you for the investigation which makes a lot of sense.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No problem at all.
Thx for giving the right context on these fields. Still a pitty as you say.
@InsideChinaAuto
9 ай бұрын
No problem.
Right. Find out the truth and release to public that can decrease the bad EV provider or manufacturer etc.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
It's not so much an issue of the EV, just that China moved on at an unprecedented speed and these cars just cannot compete anymore, rendering them worthless at least in China.
Excellent 👏
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Thank you. It's a lousy video production wise, not half beautiful like my others, but it says what was there.
@richardlphillips
10 ай бұрын
@@InsideChinaAuto well, that's what I was after 👍
Well done. Thanks so much. Even legacy media is like these til tok journalists and you have done such a great job at explaining all the factors behind
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
I used to work in mobility back in the day so had access to a lot of the information, plus you could see a lot with your eyes developing in front of you on the streets.
@isrark3
10 ай бұрын
Thanks again, I liked your effort so much that I faithfully subscribed to the channel
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
@@isrark3 Much appreciated. I'll strive to keep serving good stuff on various topics.
Fascinating! Thank you!
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
You're welcome.
Excellent video. which appears to be the truth. It earns you a like and a subscription. Well done.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much.
Thank you. So....do not trust random videos with suspect claims on KZread and Twitter!
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Or at least do some investigating. If it sounds insane, chances are it at least isn't quite as bad as it sounds or inaccurate.
Thanks for explaining this.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No problem
Thankyou . And what a great explanation . And well put together video 👍🏽
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Thanks Kevin. The video itself is pretty turd, not as beautiful as my other stuff, but it has the facts as seen at least.
While I feel a bit bad for falling for the original 'report', thank you so much for taking the time to research and showcase this. You corrected a big wrong.
@ohsnapsonbro4260
10 ай бұрын
Pause the video. Count the cars, you'll soon learn the video is filled with lies. Enjoy. Well used cars he says..... doesn't show actual wear on the cars or their mileage. 🤣
@ronalddolman2654
10 ай бұрын
@@ohsnapsonbro4260 So, then teach me, just list the lies you have encountered.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No worries Ronald.
@jacksmith-mu3ee
10 ай бұрын
@@ohsnapsonbro4260 so your proof ?
@ohsnapsonbro4260
10 ай бұрын
@@ronalddolman2654 you can't read?
Excellent work, thanks for debunking those lies.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
You're welcome.
Nice video. Please someone in china refurbish these cars and sell them cheap in Malaysia. We need more EV's. Thanks. 👍
@InsideChinaAuto
Ай бұрын
Maybe best to refurbish the batteries and put in nicer cars at this point.
Subscribed for the truth 👍
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much
Thank you for explaining!
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
You're welcome.
Thanks a ton for sharing!
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No worries.
Thanks for the video and reporting on this
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No problem mate.
Spot on and fabulous to see someone who knows and lives amongst the worlds biggest EV producer and gets it, as it is, thank you.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it. I try to keep balance in all that I do and have a desire to see both sides where I can.
Ha ha ! So the only new unsold cars here are VW Audi and Toyota! What a delicious irony. I am speculating that many of these vehicles may not have the most valuable component anymore anyway? (The battery pack).
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
I wasn't able to see but I suspect the batteries are still attached. The VWs Audis and Toyotas will get sold eventually but they're not popular so it'll take some time.
Informative Video Great reporting!!👍🏻👍🏽👍
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and the comment.
Thank You so much for checking up these "news" in person !!! 👍🏼🖖🏻
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No problem.
Good on you for finding the truth. I have had this happen real time. Low season we hibernate about 2-300 rental cars in a quarry, parked up as you see in the vid for 2-3 months. For security we remove the front number plate ( stops plate stealing). We recieved notification from council via irate landowner, accused of dumping, environmental hazard ...... some "green" politician "going to expose the company & prosecute " They were banging their drums and making a total song & dance, including TV crew that broke into & trespassed to film. until they found the facts & truth. Not one apology.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I wouldn't expect one either. As has been said recently, EVs have become the new culture war (as if we don't already have enough), it's extreme opinions or nothing. These cars are a waste here no doubt but it's the cars themselves that are the problem, not the EV part, because they were cheap and crap and now you can get cheap, better, and new.
Please make a video about the new Haval H5. I know it's an ICE, I know it's a large, heavy SUV, so not environmentally friendly at all, but it looks to be a very unique value proposition, i.e., it's dirt cheap, given all the metal Great Wall is throwing into the car! Thank you!
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
I'll see what I can do. I don't mind ICE or EV, I do both if they're compelling enough.
A first rate investigative report. You deserve a prize!
@InsideChinaAuto
5 ай бұрын
Why thank you. My prize is a fraction of the views of the lies. Truth doesn't pay unfortunately.
Very insightful, thank you! And what a waste…
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Indeed. The world is a better place without the cars to be honest but there's plenty of valuable materials that could still be reached salvaged yet.
Very informative, and makes a lot more sense than the false rumors
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Thank you. Just giving a chance to show what it was like on the ground.
That guy who made fake news was a jark.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Ironically their video says China is the "country of shortcuts and facades". The only shortcuts here are the ones they're taking to fact-finding.
Great Video Bro , really appreciate you for doing this on on ground investigation. It just struck me. Is it possible for someone to buy these cars?
@InsideChinaAuto
9 ай бұрын
I'm sure it is but I'd have to find who owns them and what exactly is happening with them. I'm planning to go back one day to see what more I can find out then see what we're looking at.
@prateekjain393
9 ай бұрын
@@InsideChinaAuto It would be great if these EVs could be purchased. If they are in working condition, I am interested in purchasing these EVs. If you're interested, we can work together on this, which would be advantageous for both of us.
@InsideChinaAuto
9 ай бұрын
@@prateekjain393 Will see what I can find out. I'm in Hangzhou soon, will see what I can do.
Thank you, appreciate very.much you.clearing that up!
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No worries mate.
I will take your video with a pinch of salt as advised. Joking aside thanks for the video, makes a lot more sense. It still is concerning on two points however:- 1. How many places through China is that replicated and what is going to happen to the cars? 2. What happens when the next big technology jump happens and all the current EV cars become obsolete. Are the "car parks" going to be 10x bigger filled with 2021/22/23 models? I guess that is a different story though.
@yulusleonard985
10 ай бұрын
If the car is good then there are people who want to buy them. If the car is crap then its vallue will drop too 0.
@ouethojlkjn
10 ай бұрын
I am afraid this is nothing new when I was in America in the mid-80s, I would go to vehicle auctions that would be thousands upon thousands of vehicles of all kinds strewn across many fields. Some of them were insurance right off, and some of them were brand-new. (as far as I could tell anyway.) of every kind make and value.
@daddy_druid
10 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly, "zakelwe". Still very disturbing to see these just parked up and no effort to recycle or reuse - at least for the batteries. Tells me we don't know how to recycle used/obsolete batteries yet. Not good for the strip mining operations going on around the world. What an utter waste. Shame.
@Stephen-wc8fn
10 ай бұрын
1. As in bankruptcy sales the world over, they’ll go to auction. Some might get a second life as a learner vehicle etc, but the overwhelmingly vast majority will be bought by recycle and scrap merchants. China is one of a handful of countries that recycle lithium EV batteries - I don’t think any western countries recycle batteries more than a token amount. 2. We’re going to see EV car parks growing all over the world - it’s not an especially Chinese problem. Lithium batteries are a major environmental and safety problem because they burn like a flame thrower and emit lethal skin burning fumes - check out videos of burning EV cars after a car crash for some examples.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
There are more of them though I'm not sure how many. Some are in the original video, No Place To Place 2, though they seem to be smaller than this and have the really really crap cars in them. Honestly the issue is not the EV part, it's the car itself. The cars in these parks, not the Neta so much as its newer, but the others were the cheapest, crappiest cars they could be, and the Chinese car industry has just gotten so much better in the last 5 years, so much more value, 100x better infotainment and interiors, the competition (there's about 70 Chinese brands) is intense so you snooze you die. The EV part of these cars is probably what an early Nissan Leaf is in Europe, but the interior is like what an original Mini is to a new one. Nobody will want them, they're not economical to fix and sell, so as one guy said, you have to hope the batteries get recycled and the cars scrapped at some point.
Would have been interesting to try and figure out who owns them and how much they want for one. They seem left unlocked so they must not care too much about what happens to them, would they take a few hundred RMBs in exchange for a set of keys? 😅
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think they probably would. I didn't have time to go around asking people, had a car to film for the day, but I'd go back.
Thank you for the truth. 👍🏻
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
You're welcome.
Subscribed, thanks for revealing the truth. I found your channel when I'm looking for IM LS7 review.
@InsideChinaAuto
9 ай бұрын
Thanks very much. I'll try to get you a review of one at some point.
@whiteprancinghorse
9 ай бұрын
@@InsideChinaAuto That would be great. Looking forward to it. Thanks.
I am shocked that not everything I see on the Internet is true???? Lol...Thank you for doing the video...great job! Mike
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
You're welcome Mike.
@ohsnapsonbro4260
10 ай бұрын
Yeah this video is definitely not true.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
@ohsnapsonbro4260 I've shown my proof, where's yours?
@ohsnapsonbro4260
10 ай бұрын
@@InsideChinaAuto why not answer coward? You dislike logic and fact?
@ohsnapsonbro4260
10 ай бұрын
@@InsideChinaAuto why didn't you show the mileage or all that wear from being well used?
Sounds like he works for the CCCP. Otherwise he would be jailed or deported.
@InsideChinaAuto
9 ай бұрын
The voices in Tim's head are at it again.
Thank you for the truthful information.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No problem
In China, the number of new electric car registrations reached 8.1 million in 2023, Compared to the clip found 2000 EV cars in the graveyard, the answer is 1/4000 of EV cars production abandoned in the graveyard. it is a small portion of China's EV car production as rubbish.
@InsideChinaAuto
Ай бұрын
And apart from the new cars from the foreign brands, none of these cars were new.
Thank you very much for your effort and determination of unveiling the truth. We all know which you-tuber was the one who posted the misleading video. He is not only evil but also absolutely disgusting, never ending lies and hate creating misleading info. Sad part is he used to live in China and sure had a decent time living there, Not sure how anyone with this kind of behaviour can sleep... I guess there is Karma and it will serve him well when time comes. Wish all his followers can find yr video here, sure there is no point linking yrs to his as he will delete immediately , but he is a sick man
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
I'm sure it will. I haven't watched his other stuff but I've seen the thumbnails here and there and they tell you all you need to know.
@SgtSweatySac
10 ай бұрын
Couldn't sound like more of a CCP shill if you tried
@jrkr7357
10 ай бұрын
ok...ok....China ev collapsed already.....there are at least hundreds of ev graveyards of this size everywhere in China cities....... you be happy and go celebrate and treat yourself to a good meal....
@Helena_Zee
10 ай бұрын
Sadly, that same KZreadr pulls in millions of views. As such, he's likely funded by the US State Department as many popular media assets get compensated extremely well for pushing US propaganda.
I counted the 90 cars behind him, and several hundred in front. It's at min. 800-1000 cars.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
The figures refer to the Neta V models, which the other video claims are 'more than 10,000' in number. There are only 146 of those, and they're not new. The car there is loads of is the BJEV EC3 and I explain that he's right about those being failed car sharing ventures.
@GreatSageSunWukong
10 ай бұрын
@@InsideChinaAuto and how many fields of abandoned EVs are there in china?
@GreatSageSunWukong
10 ай бұрын
@@leedavies76 who's they? I don't trust tesla either. you will own nothing and you will be happy.
Well done. Thank you.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
You're welcome.
Thank you for sharing....
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No worries at all Tommy
Thanks for correcting some false rumors. Very interesting.
@InsideChinaAuto
10 ай бұрын
No problem.