Dana completely changed his diet, started exercising consistently, and fixed his hormones with TRT - those are the reasons his health got so much better. The main issue here IMO is he’s attributed all the positive changes to his health to a bunch of pseudo-science which could influence others to go down the same path. Like you say, stick to the basics and build a solid foundation first. That’s what gets results, not some special red-light therapy bed or cold plunge routine etc.

@DrAJ_LatinAmerica

12 күн бұрын

He also started Fasting (stopped eating). He stopped drinking alcohol. Those are both powerful items to add to the exercise

@glenoh88

12 күн бұрын

Lol, TRT and no alcohol alone will make unbelievable changes…he either got scammed or is trying to scam. Prolly could just try no alcohol and a reasonable diet + cardio + resistance training first b4 adding TRT.

@C0d0ps

12 күн бұрын

I don’t think he needed TRT to begin with. But to give him the benefit of doubt, - after fixing your diet, workout schedule, then adding TRT. The main mover isn’t anything he suggested.

@DrAJ_LatinAmerica

12 күн бұрын

@@C0d0ps did you see his blood work? Did you see his cortisol levels? Did you talk with his wife? Plus, he is a millionaire. At that point, it is not about "need" it is about things that can benefit and enhance life quality.

@dc3565

6 күн бұрын

Bro ive heard cold plunges will improve credit score

Dana is also getting TRT and is on the "high end of normal". Thats a gigantic help, especially for him as a busy guy who probably doesnt get a consistent sleep or eating schedule.

@DrAJ_LatinAmerica

12 күн бұрын

Probably TRT ++ (stem cells, peptides, PRP,.....)

@C0d0ps

12 күн бұрын

TRT, stem cells, HGH, massage every day, anything you can think of.

@tonydauto8246

12 күн бұрын

Ground up unicorn horn, leprechaun scrotum, human fetus and the other normal stuff on the Billionaire stack

@dc3565

6 күн бұрын

​@@tonydauto8246bullspit

Lots of carbs cause autism? Now my life is starting to make sense

@C0d0ps

12 күн бұрын

I was born with autism, I guess I got carbs as a fetus Probably why I’m so short

@adamgates1142

12 күн бұрын

Just look at the Irish

@Jacob-jg6cd

9 күн бұрын

Apparently having a Rice Krispie treat will trigger your autism….

@suckoneczito04h51

4 күн бұрын

Bro that's obviously not true he's just making carbs look way worse than they actually are

What I got from Dr Mike was that Dana did a lot of things right but a lot of stuff Dana got from Gary Brekka is total bs when it comes to how Dana made his transformation. Dr Mike was just separating facts from fiction.

@JonniShreve

12 күн бұрын

Exactly !

Don't mess with Dr. Mike. You'll regret it.

@aztro187

12 күн бұрын

He sucks... And he looks terrible, dont take advice from this dude at all

Sounds like White should listen a little more and talk a little less.

@shadowjfd

12 күн бұрын

Not a Dana fanboy, but he’s right. He’s doing what works for him, not everyone else, and he’s not telling anyone else what to do with their lives.

@TruckinTay

10 күн бұрын

A little=A lot

I like how in Dana’s comment he agreed with you but very obviously didn't listen.

The best diet is the one you can stick to. 💪

@guillaume4519

12 күн бұрын

Most people can stick to fastfood everyday ;)

@realization8919

9 күн бұрын

@@guillaume4519 I can't but I see what you mean lol

Jonni just wanted to say that the good people appreciate you and Dr. Mike and what you both contribute to health, fitness and Hypertrophy training.

Well, Mike is a doctor, he’s way more charismatic, he’s smarter, and he’s about 3x more jacked. He’s superior to Dana White in essentially every possible way. So in just about every meaningful contest, Mike wins.

@mikecartier6163

8 күн бұрын

Smarter? Mike took all the shots watched all the CNN and wore all the masks. Dana didn't. Mike loves the $cience

I feel like people over complicate everything these days when it comes to nutrition but if you just nail the basics and eat in a caloric deficit you will loose weight and be healthier but it’s to many fad diets out there and nobody can stick to them bc they are being told so many things are bad for them but in reality it’s making them not stick to any plans they do nail the basics that’s with everything in life

Dr. Mike Isratel never skull day

Go to the right Doctor for the right thing. Don't go to a chiropractor or gynecologist (there are a couple of them pushing carnivore) for nutrition advice. Go to a nutritionist. Don't go to a nutritionist when you have joint injury. Go to an orthopedist.

@daneo617

12 күн бұрын

Which ones, I've been looking for a gynecologist that's pushing carnivore. 😂

@Incomudro1963

12 күн бұрын

@@daneo617 LOL There actually IS a fertility Doctor who's all over carnivore. His name is escaping me right now though.

I definitely gotta hear this one

Have a great humpday Jonni!

Keto and carb restriction works wonders for some people and there is more than enough anecdotal evidence to suggest that it is indeed very optimal for some. It's easy for everyone to be dogmatic about their approach, especially within the science based community. Vigorous steve runs carb restrictive diets year around and he's one of the most insightful gurus out there.

I love doctor Mike. But there are times he can be a little demeaning and honestly, straight up close minded. A PHD doesn’t make you an expert on all things health related.

I live on carbs. It's mostly what I eat. I'm doing great at 54! Never understood the keto stuff. It's been shown for a long time to not be the best diet over the long run. I've had medical doctors screw me up with surgeries and incorrectly prescribed meds. Dr. Mike is great. Speaks the truth.

People with reach like dana need to understand how they can set a bad precedent with things they do and say have on the people that follow them. He has a responsibility to respect the power he has. Sadly if you have money and power you think you’re justified in whatever

Agree 100%

Pretty sure Dr mike is a sports scientist he studies this stuff for a living

@aztro187

12 күн бұрын

He sucks... Another hating talking head on YT...

Why not also mention the TRT. We all know for his age it was majorly TRT that got him through all that work

Well said

I've watched, researched, alot from following reputable people who have been so kind in sharing their wisdom and experience, and I agree ... I've been able to put together the pieces of the puzzle that fit ME.

Blows my mind how convoluted everyone makes health and/or fitness. While he said as much despite using way WAY more words than necessary - to lose weight/ maintain a healthy weight or... to gain weight for those hardgainers out there.... all it boils down to is calories in and calories out. It's that simple. If throughout the day including your workout you burn.... 2600 calories.... if you consume 2400 calories - you'll lose weight. It'll take time but over the course of weeks and months you'll see the pounds start to fall off. If you consume 3000 calories though.... you'll gain weight. Whether you get those calories from mostly fats, carbs, or protein it doesn't matter.... regardless of your macro split and whatever dumb trend name you call your way of eating or your "diet." If you just want to maintain your weight... like let's say you're 5'10" and 195-200 lbs..... but you're soft. But your plan is to start lifting weights SERIOUSLY and implementing some cardio. I suggest coming up with a meal plan, count how many calories are in said daily plan. Count how many grams of carbs, protein, and fat are in said daily plan.... and go from there. For the hypothetical person in question I'd say start at about 2500 calories a day. Maybe 2600. Do that for 2-3 weeks. If you lost weight.... eat the same exact shit you're eating.... just up the portion sizes and consume 2600-2800 calories. If you gained weight... eat the same shit... just cut back the portion sizes and consume 2300-2400 calories. If you maintained your weight - perfect. 2500-2600 calories is your sweet spot. From there just tinker around with your macro split if you want. Thing is... all these fad diet chasers.... probably have no fucking clue what a "macro split" even is. They are confused when people say it all boils down to calories in vs calories out regardless of how much protein, carbs, or fat you take in. They likely don't realize "calories" come from your macro nutrients... "macros"... protein, carbs and fats are the 3 macro nutrients. Protein and carbs are 1 g of either = 4 calories roughly. 1 g of fat = 9 calories. A "macro-split" is something like 30-50-20..... 30% of your calories from protein, 50% of your calories from carbs, 20% of your calories from fats. I personally find the easiest split to stick to FOR ME is something like 35-45-20 or 40-40-20. Everyone is different. And all these fad, trendy named diets are.... is slapping a name onto whatever macro split. A "carnivore" diet a assume is eating a ton of meat.... so... protein. So it's likely a 50-30-20 split or even a 60-20-20 split. That's it. Calories in.... calories out. However you slice and dice up your macro split.... generally doesn't matter. That is if all you care about is maintaining your weight or trying to lose weight. You don't really care what you look like physique-wise. If your goal is to turn some of your pudge into muscle to look more defined/cut.... you might want to pay more attention to your protein intake... and divvy up your carbs and fats... however. Like I said... I think a 40-40-20 split is great. I weigh 200 lbs. I try to get 200 grams of protein (1g/1lb bodyweight).... it's just easy math that way. 200 grams of protein = 800 calories. I then get about 200 g of carbs... another 800 calories. That's about 1600 calories. I consume about 2500 calories a day. So..... that leaves me about 100g of fat.... 900 calories. 800 protein calories, 800 carb calories, 900 fat calories..... = 2500 calories. A couple months ago I cranked up my lifting program so I just added a bit more rice and veggies to my lunches and added a bit more veggies to my breakfast casserole I make for the week while also adding a snack of peanuts for the fat.... my protein intake relatively stays the same.... maybe a couple more grams from the rice and peanuts. But my actual split is probably more like 35-38% protein... 42-45% carbs... and still 20% fat. It works. I can still see my abs despite eating all those "evil" scary carbs. I keep the fat low... or relatively low (very low if you're a keto person which is the trendy way to say a high fat intake macro split) because while fats aren't scary or bad for you..... it's just they're double the calories of protein or carbs..... meaning you'll be eating half the amount of food to consume the same amount of calories. I like eating... I don't want a half to 2/3 empty plate of just fats. That was a lot of words but I felt I needed to explain the simplicity of it all.... and what macros are. Most here are probably well aware of all this. But the whole nutrition thing... like everything else in the "actively-trying-to-make-it-more-complicated-than-it-really-is" fitness industry.... it's pretty simple. Calories in vs calories out. Workout CONSISTENTLY 4-6 days a week for an hour a session or at least 45 minutes.... and track your calories while monitoring your weight.... and you WILL get to where you want to go eventually. It's that simple. The WILLPOWER and DISCIPLINE to carry it out... THAT is the tricky part but that is entirely on the individual him/herself. You won't lose weight... you won't get jacked.... if you half ass your workouts... and passively approach your nutrition. It's called adopting a healthy LIFEstyle. It's why I hate the word "diet." With how that word has been used for decades IMO it implies.... temporary. It's a fitness LIFEstyle.... a nutrition LIFEstyle. As in... you should be approaching it with the mindset of - this is how I'm going to live my life... until I die. Which is why fad diets that damn near completely cut out carbs or fats... or protein (I'm sure some dumbass has come up with some protein-less fad diet) are stupid.... and almost never work for the long haul. You might get a few years out of it if you're lucky. But.. like 99.oo% of the time... practitioners of said diets - fail. Because it's such an unnatural way of approaching nutrition. It's why most (not so... so calm down) vegans look so sickly. According to Google's AI (that's going to destroy the world eventuality, haha) when you search "how many vegans stay vegan" it comes back with.... "according to a 2016 study 84%[!!!] of [not only] vegans [but also] vegetarians... abandon their diet." About 1/3 quit within 3 months and a little over half quit within a year. So all those insanely vocal... and annoying.... vegans you knew a couple years ago - likely ain't vegans anymore. Just another dumbass trend. Why do 84% of them quit? Because it's such an unnatural approach to nutrition. They actively made nutrition way more complicated than it needs to be. Like so SO many others. So once again.... calories in vs. calories out. That's literally all one needs to know. That's like nutrition 101. Nutrition 102 is just understanding macros... which isn't complicated at fucking all either. And that's it. Those 2 things.... that's IT. If someone tries to say otherwise.... they're like the majority of the nutrition/fitness world and actively try to make this shit way more complicated than it is. Why they do this... I don't know. Maybe it's because they don't want to hurt anyone's feelings by telling the truth. Which is - it's not that hard.... IF you have willpower and discipline to stick to a proper, we'll balanced nutrition plan consisting of REAL whole foods AND a workout plan. And deep down everyone knows this. Everyone knows what food they SHOULD be eating. Whole grains, nuts, fruits, vegetables, meat, dairy... you know... REAL whole foods. Not processed bullshit. Everyone also knows that most jobs today are bullshit jobs so they are pretty sedentary so they know they should be working out daily. They know these things.... but it's "too hard" and "not fun"... which is another way of saying it's not easy. They act like they can't lose weight or get cut/ jacked because.... of "their genetics" when in reality it's because it's too much work for them.... and they're lazy. They'll spend more time thinking of excuses to not live a proper healthy lifestyle than take the 45-60 minutes a day to hit the gym. They'd rather take the 10-15 minutes to prepare and eat their overly processed meals that came packaged in a box than take the extra 10-15 minutes to prepare an actual meal that consists of ACTUAL whole foods. People are the way they are - overweight/obese - because they're lazy. It's as simple as that.

It's funny how Brecka glossed over the fact that White is on TRT. He claimed it was no big deal in a soft voice.

Most Important Point: "Gary Breka is an absolute clown, ABSOLUTE CLOWN!"

@JonniShreve

12 күн бұрын

I couldn’t hold it in!

@meodrac

7 күн бұрын

1000000000000%

Low carb mythology is so common today it's almost pointless to argue with anyone about it. You cannot convince anyone who relies on anecdotal information ("it works for me") in place of science.

My sense is that Dana White has over-indexed the "unconventional" aspects of Brecka's regimen. I think Mike even points this out in his original video. Dana threw the kitchen sink at his health, so it's a real big "?" as to what effect any one vector had on his overall transformation. There's a saying, "What get's measured, get's managed." Well, I think the inverse can be true, "What goes unmanaged, cannot be measured."

As an autistic person, it really pisses me off hearing someone call autism a disease

@MeanBeanComedy

5 күн бұрын

Nah, bruh. It's a disease.

I trust doctors, just not the ones who flaunt "i'm a doctor/scientist!" it at every opportunity.

Dude is on TRT and according to that carnivore guy is "no big deal". Right. 😑

funny he is shitting on a someone with sport science phd, but refers to gary brecka as a human biologist lol. that not even a thing.

There are basic fundamentals that can be applied to everyone to establish a foundation in good health routines outside of that, depending on chemical balance/condition/health /strength/genetics/physical capabilities etc, results will vary .

Dana gave too much credit to the cold plunge and red light therapy and really underplayed the use of TRT like if it was something normal

Corect SUA

Carbs give me anxiety, depression and brain fog it takes me a while once I go under to realize where I am. Keto is awesome for my mental health I just don’t like how my body looks on it.

Having diabetes if I did that I would be dead i just train and my diet is protein and veggies.

MAN, you've gotta wonder what implications his distrust of doctors has on the UFC and how they operate

Respect Gym

Did some dude say carbs cause ADHD and ASD?! How can someone be crazier than Jenny McCarthy?!

People in general are getting tired of PE Doctors and the whole “science based lifting” scene. They recognize it’s just a content mill for KZreadrs and just needlessly complicates fitness.

6:32 and he is on TRT. I loved the interview with Dana's Dr/trainer. Yea was a great transformation Dana did all this training and dieting that realy work for him. Ow and he is also on TRT, but that's not the point here. Ehhhh dude i think it is a point, a big point.

@JonniShreve

12 күн бұрын

Massive point for sure

This is like Dana changing his diet, lifestyle, eating routine, approach to health and fitness as a whole and then attributing his improvements to his new gym T. Like, sure, it was there when you got better, but it's not actually contributing anything.

Dana is a nice guy, hard worker, salt of the earth person, but he is PT Barnum's son. He is a master of marketing.

That guy thinks autism can be caught? 😂

In a boxing match Dana would smoke him. In mma Dr Mike would probably be able to get the takedown before getting chinned.

Man on TRT decries doctors and research. More logical inconsistencies at eleven.

That original video is undercut so hard by burying the lead of TRT. They conveniently leave that part out until basically the end and try to downplay it's astronomical impact. Not to say his hard work counts for nothing but come on my guy.

well, i get the dude issue with doctors. a big chunk of those are bigpharma /supplements salesmans, not actual medics.

Doesn’t like doctors but will go to them when something is wrong? So he just wants to be a hypocrite

lol, I really don’t care what Mark Bell thinks about diet unless he quotes actual scientific sources….

battle of the balds

Dana got Doctor Derangement Syndrome lol

Dana is likely taking clomid and anavar so let's be real. I am not judging that because over 50 you need something to help other than diet.

Is taking health advice from someone who thinks abusing steriods is acceptable really such a good idea?

Gary brecka is definitely a clown

I don't understand what is supposed to be "very complicated". Dr Mike gives a very simple explanation. There are 2 reasons Dana White would find it "very complicated" 1. he's stupid. I assume he's not. 2. he knows he can't argue with logic, so he avoids this discussion to push a diet that's not proven good, because "it works", because if it doesn't, he is the clown, and he can't afford that. I think I've figured out the profile. It is an anti-science person who, under the pretext that a doctor has not had the miracle answer to one of these problems, thinks in a binary way that everything is to be thrown away. A bit like saying that I tried an influencer's exercise, that it didn't work, and that they are all incompetent. It's very reassuring to think that the experts are incompetent. This implies that anyone can claim knowledge. The fundamental problem is that nothing about the approach is logical. But in the end, there are a few who get results. It's a mix of survivor bias and broken clock. Hopefully, he's not saying that his method is good. Just that it works for him. But I advice everyone not to count of survivor bias and instead listen to what science offers :)

But he said (Dr. Mike) carbs and sugars from fruits, vegetables and whole grains that I agree with for someone who isn’t metabolically damaged. For high performance athletes yes! But for Someone who is metabolically damaged they need to go low carb and low calories. At the end of the day calories does matter but so does macro ratios for the right person. Dana White is right there isn’t one diet for all. Keto for me personally works THE BEST for me to cut. Also, eating refined carbs is the problem to begin with

You're a sensible dude, I like you Dana White is being dumb

Lmao it’s because he’s on TRT but yeah, all the other stuff fucking helps too

Mark Bell has went whacko the past few years. People don't need to take advice from him anymore than they do Gary Brecka

Ignoring highly specialized DRs who are not corrupted is silly. Dr Mike is highly credible in fitness--so it is a very good idea to exploit him. Likewise, you need to exploit Earth sciences on rocks? ... You go to a geologist who KNOWS the area and is highly credible in the field ... Physics understanding? Exploit a physicist! Lol ... Dana is in over his head on the doctors dispute, lol...

Yea you don't need a fkn dr. To tell you to exercise and eat right. Just like you shouldn't have to Google the weather to find out if it's currently raining on your a$$. Where the fk does common sense come in ?

Mark Bell = meh

✌️You're On Target Jonni.... if you're seeing a doctor all the time is it likely you're practicing healthy habits ❣️

FUCK DOCTORS>> DANA IS WRIGHT!!!!!!

"Doctor is an academic title that originates from the Latin word of the same spelling and meaning.[1] The word is originally an agentive noun of the Latin verb docēre [dɔˈkeːrɛ] 'to teach'." Source: wikipedia. i know its not the best source but hey, its wikipedia. Dana should just call the "real" doctors... medics and leave people with PhD alone and call them by their respectful academic title. Calling people with PhD fake Drs. is very disrespectful.

Dr Mike almost about die while following his science and trying to qualify for bodybuilding pro car 😂😂

@jordanduran1726

12 күн бұрын

I like Mike but I don't think that he will get it unless he goes to a pro show and no one else with decent shape and size shows up.

Dr turned to drug dealers 😂😂😂 or everything operational surgery