Stay motivated by results. Stay in your lane and don’t worry about everyone else. You don’t bust your ass in the gym for the benefit of others. 💪🏻

@riczz4641

3 күн бұрын

Results come a lot slower though. It's kind of tough seeing you only have noticeble changes (relatively speaking) every 10 months. Not gonna lie, I have the thought of hopping on gear in my mind all the time (been lifting 4 years).

Comparison is the thief of joy.

@noahtheg451

5 ай бұрын

For some it's the source of joy

@StopTheDamnTape

5 ай бұрын

@@noahtheg451narcissists? And only when the cards favour them. 😂

@taylorhillard4868

Ай бұрын

°anxiety disorder washes away° Thank you, your love has broken the curse. I'll never have to kill again. 😊

Getting older and still having a good quality of life is all the motivation I need

Kali Muscle and Mike Otren are my favourite nattys

Bro I've been natural all my life, under 10% body fat for over a year, won a bodybuilding competition, just do it without comparing yourself to others, life is NOT instagram.

@ratg97

5 ай бұрын

jaja you are no one

@juuso4148

5 ай бұрын

Hello Mike O'Hearn

@rve420

5 ай бұрын

@@ratg97 trolling a "no one" makes you even less

@PACHOUSEFITNESS

5 ай бұрын

Actually it is Instagram old man . Get outta the 90's. Relax: I was just fucking with you. That competition may have been small but the fact you won one is motivational for alot of people.

@StopTheDamnTape

5 ай бұрын

Good job bro 👍 good mindset

Hey Jonni, I’m feeling much better. This week was brutal, but I managed to pull through. You the man Jonni 💪

I can't speak for everyone but I can speak for what keeps ME motivated as a natural lifter. I fell in love with the process as a means of therapy and discipline my mind. Setting lifting goals and getting to my new body composition keeps me In a bit of tunnel vision on myself. I get a dopamine release while lifting and even a while after. I do go to guys for tips on muscle activation as well as setting up certain grouping of exercises but idc if they are natural or not because I know they still need to put the work in and regardless if they are natty or not it does nothing to help me make my own gains only thier guidance and knowledge can. At its core its the process AND seeing all these hours of trial and error on what MY body responds to best and what keeps my joints the healithes that keeps me motivated. I try different exercises I think might work if it makes sense just to see if I can add it long term or atleast break the normal groupings of exercises to keep it fresh. I will add that I do have VERY good not elite genetics for adding muscle effortlessly as well as strength. The problem was I did it dirty bulk style as early on I was of course dumb on how to put on lean muscle on not focus on gaining weight itself and that was for football. I understand where I am and what I can do and comparing myself to anyone else dosent really matter in the end. So what if my genes are better than many that make me a douch by point that out.

Priceless advice. Chasing someone else will leave you disappointed, improving the old you keeps the bounce in your step 💪

Thanks for sharing Jonni. As a natty that's been training for a year, when I first found out that Dr. Mike it was a bit disappointing but quickly it made a lot of sense and I got over it because of the quality of information he puts out to keep people going. Both of you speaking openly about your experience on both sides is great perspective and more people should be honest about the process.

- keep a workout calendar, where you can see every day you've gone to the gym. Seeing all those days in a row makes a person want to keep going. - find the loudest, most aggressive music you like to listen to. This will increase the intensity of your lifts, and making lifting more fun.

Well said, be the best version of yourself💯💪🏽

You’re aloud to speak on anything. That’s your right to an opinion and right to freedom of speech

Jonni is the man!

The widespread use of steroids in the gym culture has raised the bar for what's considered a muscular physique to an unrealistic standard. Personally, I choose to stay natural to avoid contributing to this trend and to maintain a realistic perspective on fitness and body image.

Great video Jonni! Facts……

You're trying to be better than you were yesterday, can't be racing everyone else.

I've been working out for a year now. I lost a little under 60 pounds and then started to try and build muscle. Even at 43 now I'm very surprised by the muscle I have grown. Have I gained the muscle like those on PEDs? No. Am I growing muscle the way a 18 year old could? No. But by following the advice of Jonni Shreve and Dr Mike I am happy with my results. It's amazing what happens when you work out before and do everything wrong and then try again and try doing things correctly (properly eating, proper technique in gym, etc).

This is a great video. I remember seeing those grainy black/white photos of Dorian Yates back in the early 90’s- I allowed them to ruin my bodybuilding career, scared me away. At the time the fitness industry did not have the variety of classes for all to enter nor was KZread even a thought. So the point is don’t lose out on being your best like Jonni said. If you give up on striving for your personal best opportunities may pass you by…however, better late then never. Good luck, train hard.Thanks again, Jonni!

Yeah that video changed the way I look at getting stronger

Jonni, what you said is on point and makes perfect sense. Where the issue of following enhanced fitness influencers is honesty. You and Dr Mike don’t mislead people on your steroid use. Also, as you know, there are health issues associated with the use of enhancement drugs and depending on how you acquired the drugs it could have been illegal. Dr Mike has talked about this before. Young folks need to understand the risks and be under a medical professional’s care to ensure it’s done within “safe” and legal limits. Some enhanced fitness influencers don’t have the same experiences as you and try to sell their physique as completely natural. This leaves a bad taste in peoples’ mouths.

People say you need the gear but they fail to respect what the two super successful male and female lifetime natty's Mike O'Tren and Dianabol Lynne-Bailey have achieved.

Thank you.

That’s some good game. 💪

Deep ending man...

It would be wayy harder to stay motived as an ENHANCED lifter as you know that your gains are 90% dependant on the dosage of drugs you take and once you come off, you can say bye bye to atleast 50% of them. Stay Natty!

Be motivated by wanting to improve yourself!! Being better than yourself from yesterday, from last week, from last month!! Put the effort

Enjoy the process. Work towards being the best version for your self. No one else is you, no one else has your genetics. Some are better at looking strong, some are better at being strong. Some have superior genetics in the mind that can find ways to success that others don't. Everyone has the potential to look great with deliberate, consistent hard work, how are you going to do your process. Work hard, people appreciate difficult feats that are hard to reach.

Its pretty simple ......just dont do it unless you want too. Its hard to stay focused but similar to a diet or not getting drunk or even doing drugs have the control dont give into what you see on social media

it all depends on the person. if he keeps comparing himself to others. its gonna be super tough!

There are some compelling health reasons to lift. Being stronger increases your work capacity and enables you to do more. Being stronger is highly correlated with living longer, Being stronger can keep you doing many of things you love as you age. Lifting can help you look younger then your chronological age.. The people that thought they would look like Flex Wheeler were gonna quit anyway..

When people ask you if your natty when you are.. that’s enough motivation lol

I was on and off gear from 20 to about 35, only cycling for about 12 weeks, 2x a year. As you get older it gets harder to cycle off. Even while you PCT you feel like garbage. You do get back to a "natural state" but it takes a long long time. After my last ever cycle of Tren, Dbol, and sarms, it took me 18 months to get my normal functional hormones levels back and I needed a doctors help. I still look great naturally but performance enhancers make you bigger, stronger, and more vascular. That's reality. You can look great without them but it's night and day on and off the gas. My honest opinion, if you're not into professional bodybuilding, don't waste your money and time with steroids. They're very hard on your body and are not worth it in the long term.

It's important to remember that the idea of “bad genetics” is subjective. Something that is subjective is based on personal opinions and feelings rather than on facts.

@StopTheDamnTape

5 ай бұрын

Sometimes it is definitive ie Jason Blaha. Genetic mess.

I think motivation comes from within. I've been lifting for 30 years, 51 now, and at my peak as a natty. As I'm still making great gains, motivation has never been an issue. I love my 2 to 3 hour workouts and really detest rest days, though they are necessary of course. It would be nice to press 4 plates, sure, but I'll take pressing 3 (I'm about 5 pounds away) at a bodyweight of 170 pounds without resorting to gear--I see most people at local gyms struggling with one or two plates, lol. You can get pretty far in terms of strength and size with just old fashioned hard work. Look at it this way, a lot of of people play football, but don't get discouraged because they see monsters in the NFL. I think it's motivating to see people at the top and see how close you can get. People worry what too much what others think of them these days. Just stick to you vs. you, and you will be far ahead of the pack excepting maybe a few total lifting freaks who are outliers.

@juuso4148

5 ай бұрын

Why do you workout for 2-3 hours? 🤔

@DANA-lx8cv

5 ай бұрын

@@juuso4148 Disappointing effort. As a troll, you should be working out 23 hours a day under your bridge.

@juuso4148

5 ай бұрын

@@DANA-lx8cv do you workout under a bridge? is that why your workouts last 2 to 3 hours? you should try to go to a gym, there you dont need to lift for 3 hours 🤣

@noahtheg451

5 ай бұрын

"im at my natty peak" "im still making great gains" what?

@DANA-lx8cv

5 ай бұрын

@@noahtheg451 Yes. I'm currently lifting the most I weight ever have and increasing my 1 RM PR's, lifting block after lifting block. Slow and steady progress using periodization.

I want to be abel to do new stuff and be a healthy example for the kids around me! Influencers job is most of the time to be ads just like models. That is not motivation to me. Can be entertainment but not what I want to be.I think my goals can be lifelong improvment in a way a look, a running time or a goal strenght cant. 😊

Ngl, feel like right now in this day and age staying natty is way easier. Cause unlike back then now we’ve got so much information from so many people like Jonnie on the detrimental effects of steroids. I still remember coming across that bro science video on steroids before even lifting weights. Decided wouldn’t be taking em after that lmao.

Bro im ngl..i do it cuz i LOVE it baby! But if im slacking that day, seeing these chicks in those tight ass shorts at the gym - it gets me pretty effin motivated to rep a few more out 😜💪

coming off of roids you still have a base of new muscle that would have been tough to obtain naturally. So even if you come off you are still bigger than you were if you stayed natural the whole time.

@StopTheDamnTape

5 ай бұрын

Yeah I’ve heard this too. Apparently even after coming off your body will still have an amount of muscle that supersedes what you would have if you had never used. So I guess part time natty and lifetime natty are still a different ballgame.

So true in your face? This explosion of people working out is all from social media! ? I been lifting for 30 years since the 80s! Now I see all kinds of people that I’ve never seen before?!

Accept it. Accept 1) they are on drugs. 2) the work ethic built them, not the drugs. 3) motivation is fickle and so put your head down and go to work. Develop discipline. Discipline will carry you when motivation is long gone.

Believe in yourself......

Whooaaa Johnny. People just want to hear everyone else got their Gaines easily. And Blame steroids. Even if good genetics fit in that category..They don't want to hear they likely couldn't look like that if they tried.

Bravo Gym

I prayed that there would be less videos with mike but here I am seeing a video on how to stay motivated as a natty from him... I live in hell.

I feel like this whole chit chat about nattys or not and genetics is kinda pointless. We all should eat and train and sleep, and just be surprised with what we get. And be chill and happy. Is really cool to train.

❤

Just watch whomever you find entertaining , treat "Influencers" as Fictional Characters .

@StopTheDamnTape

5 ай бұрын

Bingo! Entertainment only, exactly how I view it brother!

Way i rationalise it, is i’ve always had genetics to be below 8% body fat, with no side effects. If someone tried to do what i did, they likely be morbidly obese. Be like me trying to copy a Rugby player - would make no sense.

If you take the "goal" aspect out of it and just train for increased health and fitness....then all the rest is fluff

0:50 If you take steroids in the past and have gone off the drugs you're not natural but drug free. I consider it an insult when former PED users call themselves that because they still have a major advantage going off! #notnatty

If the juiceheads are throwing your game off, you have insecurity issues. Resolve that, and get on with your life. I'm a bodybuilder (natural), and I train at a gym with a lot of other bodybuilders. There's a good mix of different classes at various degrees of enhancement in there. The only difference in outcome is that the enhanced can get bigger. Nothing about being natural prevents you from attaining great proportions, balance, and symmetry...the actual practice of bodybuilding. I'd say if you're concerned with who's on gear and it's affecting you, you have serious gaps in your training knowledge and likely have your priorities and goals in the wrong spot.

Kali muscle is my motivation to stay natty. No way in hell I want that lmao

What keeps me motivated is knowing that the serum testosterone in my body is natural and in a normal range. Too bad the free testosterone isn't and it's all exogenous outside the hCG stimulating my testicles to produce a mild amount. 😅

Stop being so insecure and just focus on eating healthy, sleeping, and working out harder than last time!

NO ONE will be as good as the GOAT...Barry Sanders

@noahtheg451

5 ай бұрын

That's a fact but a bit off topic eh?

If genetics are only ~1% why is there so much emphasis on genes? "Between any two humans, the amount of genetic variation-biochemical individuality-is about . 1 percent. This means that about one base pair out of every 1,000 will be different between any two individuals." -National Library of Medicine

@42069memes

5 ай бұрын

The 1% genetic difference refers to overall genomic variation, but for specific traits like body shape (e.g., wide shoulders, narrow waist), genetics play a substantial role. Genes influence factors like bone structure, muscle development, and fat distribution, significantly impacting physical appearance in areas such as bodybuilding.

@taylorhillard4868

Ай бұрын

Genetics are like 80% They determine your limits, your shape, your potential, et cetera. The last 20% is your own level of effort.

Jony SUA

Asking how to stay motivated while lifting and not taking steroids is like asking how to stay motivated while trying to make money without stealing. If you’re taking steroids you are stealing results you didn’t work for. As far as worrying about how you look? In real life there’s nothing good looking about how guys on gear look compared to the guys who are just flat out in good shape.

Imagine if you're not motivated to train without steroids... You are training for the wrong reasons.

Staying motivated when you are younger and already have high T levels is much different than when you are working full time, have a family and over 30. Nobody mentions most of these influencers it is their job to workout too. When you can design your day around lifting, it is a huge advantage. I keep on hearing the genetic reason. All the guys at my gym who are on gear you can instantly tell. I don't think it is a "genetics" that every single one of them is benching over 400 and looked like they are on juice. Steroids are obviously a short cut with proven results even if you don't have good "genes". Nowadays, if you are over 40 and jacked, I automatically assume the person is on trt ha.

Vegeta wouldn’t take steroids…

In your Face? I guess if you sign up for it.....never in my face....

For à moment isratael sounded like Joe Biden at least to me

No shade but "you can be the best version on yourself" is about as motivating as "you can be the smartest neanderthal"

Hmm abit weird to just talk about genetics. Genetics yea maybe but taking steroids is a fact and don't fall under the "maybe" category.

@dannywilliams8911

5 ай бұрын

Yeah I feel like you should be disqualified to say you have good genetics if you take steroids. I agree you probably do but once you go down the dark path it shows you didn't think your genetics are good enough. I never cheated on a test I was confident I would pass.

You took roids?

Part of me feels like genetics is a bunch of BS and it’s all about the work you put in. Show me someone that puts in all the work and doesn’t look good.

This vid is treacherous.

Wait wtf you’re in your 30s? You look like 25 at most

Lol imagine people who succumbed to steroids telling you how to stay motivated to stay natural. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

i just found this random video. your philosophy about being genetically gifted and taking steroids , sounds to me like a total BS !!! if you know yourself that you are indeed gifted you try your best , still and get the results you want faster than an average guy. No reason to rush , when you have health risks. Its not an excuse to take those drugs to your body man , im sorry

This is a pretty silly video coming from two drug abusers