I don’t think I’ll take steroids now thank you dr Mike

@Trendle222

3 ай бұрын

me either!

Damn. This has to be one of the most open interviews about roids that I’ve ever seen. Gotta love Dr. Mike

@seanlee566

Жыл бұрын

Yeah he obviously wants to discourage gear use but he is completely honest about the benefits too. I think every kid should see this. Kids often dont care about negatives cause all their live theyre been told all the fun and nice things are bad for you (sweets, drugs, video games). But in honesty we should give kids more credit, show them the full picture and let them make their own judgement. If their willing to sacrifice aspects phyisical and mental just too look bigger, but it gives them true happiness and they arent causing harm (competing in sports against natural competitors, lying about being natural and selling products) then i cant really blame them.

@BlitzAmbassador

Жыл бұрын

Being on gear and giving training advice is like living with a prostitute and giving marriage advice...

@alexl.4362

Жыл бұрын

Bang Bros..?

@382u3uuej

Жыл бұрын

@@seanlee566 I don't like the message that it should be acceptable and beyond reproach to use a substance that is not only bad for your health, but from a psychological point of view too, just because it makes you happy, that doesn't mean it should be illegal, but it would be like saying "drinking alcohol makes me happy, I live being tipsy or drunk, I need my daily drinks, it's how I like to be", that is not illegal in our society yet that person is still a degenerate drunk, if you need an external substance that is transitory in your life to be happy then there is something wrong with you that should be addressed, and I see it as something perfectly valid to be criticized, I can't consider that true happiness in the same sense that being a drunk, or being fat, using drugs won't give you true happiness. Yes, life is easier if you are on PEDs, you are much bigger and stronger, people will respect you more, men will respect you and won't fuck with you, women will desire you, but said true happiness is transitory and not real, it's not the person acomplishment, it's the PEDs since without them he would have never gotten to that point, it would be like if you could take a PED that makes you 2.1 meters tall(with regualr complexion rather than being a twig) and you like the fact that you are bigger, stronger and get more attention from women and respect from men, but enough of it will kill you, you can only take if from a certain period of time and it's bad for you in the psychological level, life would be better being 2.1 meters tall as a man, but it's not real and it's not true happiness.

@Z..z..zz.

Жыл бұрын

@@seanlee566 video games are bad? health wise? tf?

Wow man! Not only the fact that he's so open about his use but the fact that he explains himself so clearly and precisely and using such good analogies that you can understand even if you had no clue what it's like to be on gear. That's why I love Mike Israetel. Well spoken, legit my favorite teacher when it comes to anything strength and muscle related. Dr Mike if you ever read this, you changed my life and maybe saved it (?) "FOLKS, that's all from Renaissance periodization I'll see you in the next video on periodization for general strength." 😁

@DE-GEN-ART

Жыл бұрын

thats dr.mike thhe goat

@davidk6269

8 ай бұрын

Based on this interview, Dr. Mike ON gear would have no emotional response to your heartfelt gratitude for him having changed your life and possibly saved it. But Dr. Mike OFF gear would get choked up and shed a tear of appreciation for your kind words. ; )

@bola5671

8 ай бұрын

​@@davidk6269That's kinda funny

@2hot4u68

8 ай бұрын

Admitting u did steroids is like a criminal admitting he did the crime. Nothing to be proud of.

@jasminerathod9503

6 ай бұрын

He's a teacher, that's what he does

I'm glad that Mike mentioned the increased anxiety and frustration on steroids. I naturally have constant, low-level anxiety and a fairly low frustration tolerance. I am someone who should not do steroids.

@jasonluckett2263

Жыл бұрын

I dropped TRT earlier this year because I was increasingly feeling depressed and aggressive. The big difference to me so far is less anxiety and my recovery takes a little longer. I have no idea how nuts I'd be on competitive levels of gear.

@cranki6316

9 ай бұрын

His discussions of gear and TRT have definitely convinced me not to try either. I've gone to the ER because of panic attacks and I cannot imagine possibly inducing that willingly.

@joebaer1358

9 ай бұрын

Same I have pretty bad anxiety, bipolar disorder, issues with aggression and depression from a lot of child abuse, and I can’t imagine what sort of havoc would be wreaked on my mental health.

@MrAllallalla

8 ай бұрын

Took stuff for my ADHD and those kinda side effects were too unbearable for me to be made up for in increased concentration and a clearer mind.

@westerlytoast5763

8 ай бұрын

These issues can also come from low testosterone, not saying to take steroids but its worth getting your levels checked by a professional. I have anxiety and normal T levels, so I totally agree I'm not the type of person who should get on gear

This is the realest breakdown of what happens when you take gear. Much appreciated

Dr Mike is an absolute legend, appreciate the content y’all 🙏🏽

The way I feel naturally is what he described as being on gear. Very informative I’ll definitely never do gear with the anxiety and frustration issues I deal with.

Dr Mike is a fitness genius and this topic is an amazing idea. Please do a part 2 w more detail and longer! Loved the interview

A lot of respect for his honesty. As the significant other, it severely dampened and injured the relationship. It was personally a very heartbreaking experience. I wish the very best for any man or woman who uses it as part of their regimen.

I really like how mike properly points out the anxiety ish neurostimulative effects. Finally someone not praising gear into heaven, personally it also never felt really good emotionally. Just the body.

@y2j1490yahoo

Жыл бұрын

Definitely days where your head and emotions are f4cked

@SSjago

Жыл бұрын

@@y2j1490yahoo indeed, if you're a bit sober minded you just observe the changes and calmly assure yourself it's the gear. But still it drags your mood with it sometimes, conscious effort to keep your head straight.

@iamthefiremanjj

9 күн бұрын

​@y2j1490yahoo super super fucked

@iamthefiremanjj

8 күн бұрын

Can you explain did you also have this on just testoserone?

As someone with bad anxiety and panic attacks already, I'm glad I talked to someone 20 years ago that warned me about how it increases that. It sucks I never got to see just how strong I could have gotten, but I could have never dealt with the side-effects.

@j0nnicage

Жыл бұрын

I feel your pain brother. I’ve been dealing with panic attacks the last 5 years and it can be torture. I’ve even cut out caffeine completely because of it. Never know when it will happen and it is a daily struggle. I couldn’t imagine taking anything that would exacerbate it. Any helpful tips you have to deal with it I’d be happy to hear.

@cursedfox4942

Жыл бұрын

It depends if you don’t control estrogen this will absolutely happen all the fucking time. Also the inflammation can cause panic and anxiety.

@joeb2650

Жыл бұрын

If you have low testosterone and higher estrogen it could cause that. Sometimes people jump on trt and it makes their anxiety go away.

@Welner

Жыл бұрын

Many people get on trt and their anxiety depression goes away

@cursedfox4942

Жыл бұрын

@@Welner trt is different from an actual cycle and your estrogen won’t be high on trt

Kudos on being articulate and descriptive without glamorizing nor patronizing. Hope they hit their goals and make peace with the effort.

This is how we all can get better. By sharing openly. How many can now go into this or not go in with a much clearer picture! Thank you!

I so appreciate dr Mike. Thanks for coming on and being honest about the real emotional side effects of gear and how they are different for everyone. I’ve dated a number of dudes on gear and it effected their individual mental health drastically differently. It can be so dangerous mixed with the wrong predisposition, lack of education and lack of tools. I’ve seen it go real ugly. This is so important for men’s health. ❤

@pipersmith8676

Жыл бұрын

Sleeping your way around the local gym?

Man, I love how honest Mike is about the actual psychological effects of anabolics.

Man, this was awesome. Thanks to you all, especially Dr. Mike for being so open and candid. Thanks again, and have a fantastic Christmas and New Years.

The explanation of anxiety was so perfectly explained.

This is truly golden information you won't get this from anywhere else other than Dr Mike

Omg when he gave the example of being frustrated downloading a file at work I knew in that moment that I would never be able to handle Test. This already sends me off the deep end

Dr. Mike is a great source of information and I can also appreciate his darker, dry humor. Love watching his videos.

7:20 I experience the same feelings after having smoked weed for 8 years, and I'm 2 years sober now still experiencing this although it's pretty rare now. I could just be watching a TV show and out of nowhere I get this feeling of dizziness and then an overwhelming feeling of anxiety, tunnel vision and increased heart rate. Never happened until I stopped my extreme heavy thc doses. Probably different in various ways than what Mike experiences but definitely speaks to how certain compounds being absorbed by the human body can do a lot of harm, specifically mentally. People talk about mental health a lot and I feel like depression is the main subject of that topic but actual panic-inducing events that are more on the physical side of the brain are terrifying and suck too.

Loved this.. thank you all for keeping it so real

I really appreciate the honesty. Fair play to him. His body his choice. If someone is honest and knows the risks and is cool with it I've no problem. Loved that interview.

This is an amazing interview! Fascinating insights into things rarely discussed, but which people who work out have always wondered about

When looking at different influencers on social media using gear you get the impression that it's this new wonder drug with 0 negative side effects, have to say this honest take was very refreshing to hear.

This was a cool interview to hear someone so experienced talk about it from a first hand long term use point of view!

Dr. Mike might lose his gains once he comes off gear but I hope he never loses his sense of humour and honesty.

@BlitzAmbassador

Жыл бұрын

You dont loose all gains when you cycle off. Thats a problem in sports..

@kylerBD

Жыл бұрын

I dont know where this myth started. If you lost your gains after cycling off no athlete would do steroids.

@DanielMatulich

Жыл бұрын

The good news is, he says his humanity goes up when he gets off of gear. Seems like it'll only increase.

@Lookatthosechimkens

Жыл бұрын

If you come off completely, especially this guy using for 10 years, your balls will be shut down for at least 3 months before you even start to produce anything (female levels) so yes for that presumable 6 months of recovery you will have 0 hormones to support your mass and you will lose a huge amount of size. Most people that use stay on at least trt for life.

@raoulluijten5972

Жыл бұрын

mental gains for life

Dr. Mike has to be one of the best dudes in the fitness industry right now. The man is just smart, honest, and humerous and you can't help but listen to what he has to say. I learned a lot about gear use from this one video and I can honestly say now I have no more interest to use. To have that physique would be amazing but I know I would not be able to handle the psychological side effects.

One of the realest guys out there. No bullshit, just plain honesty

That awkward moment when you’re listening to this while pinning ur test

@andrewevans7992

Жыл бұрын

I gotta do mine today lol

@marcoechavarria7274

Жыл бұрын

Daily pins ftw

@anotherhairlessapewithanop7455

3 ай бұрын

why

@roykeane1922

3 ай бұрын

Tbf test is child’s play

He looks like a buffer Joe Rogan

@iorilamia

Жыл бұрын

He looks like a young Dana White

@TheHumblePhil

Жыл бұрын

It's the brother, Roe Jogan

@AndreaAustoni

Жыл бұрын

A buffer and funnier Joe Rogan

@DA-123

Жыл бұрын

More like Kurt Angle

@jackreacher2095

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHumblePhil toe hogan

Excellent video. Love Dr Mike. Very genuine.

This is the real anecdotal shit people need to hear about how your life might actually be when they're making the decision of whether to go on cycle or not. Props Dr. Mike!

What ab absolute awesome interview! Just brutally honest and open. Love this man

I really appreciate how transparent this guy is, what a cool dude

This is how I felt with low T ! The panic and anxiety

Dr Mike is the best. Honesty is the best, no one talks about this shit. If you're an anxious person it ain't for you.

mike is so real here. one of the most honest fitness guys around. his description of being on steroids is scary, and he makes it clear it doesn't make sense for the average lifter to even consider it

Probably the best breakdown of taking gear

Dr. Mike. I've had bipolar for a long time and gear for me gave me kind of a predictable emotional standard. I still do therapy and take my meds and am pretty stoic understanding my emotions and reacting appropriately to a given situation despite how I feel. But the anxiety and aggression (I'm not an aggressive guy normally, so it actually presents itself very mildly). Can you bestow any wisdom for situations like mine long term? Since I've been doing it for over a year I've been very balanced I think. But with my meds like seroquel I worry about my cholesterol sometimes. Anxiety is real. But I can predict anxiety more than my other symptoms. Lmk! Loved the episode very informative.

i would say dr mike has been the most informative bodybuilding and educational channel I've ever come across compared to every other I've seen without a dought

@Kyle111

Жыл бұрын

I read that as donut for a second. Then I remembered how wack English is. It’s tough but through thorough thought it can be understood. Dr. Mike is the best. I’m excited for him to get off gear and enjoy life more

@marco9056

Жыл бұрын

For training and diet, yes. For chemistry, check out vigorous steve

@yewtewbstew547

Жыл бұрын

He has a great sense of humour too.

@Cuzko_

Жыл бұрын

@@Kyle111 yep I definitely read that as donut

@coffee.3.4

3 ай бұрын

Dought is crazy man it’s doubt

How it feels to be on gear is a very blanket question. Every compound does something different.

@mortenpaskins6073

Жыл бұрын

And every person reacts differently

@misterop886

13 күн бұрын

@@mortenpaskins6073 totally - the only time i felt anything from roids was the first couple weeks on prescribed TRT ( felt great ) but as time went on you grow accustomed to it and i felt normal....since then i have done many full blown cycles but never had any prolonged mental issues - just got stronger physically ....and ive tried nearly every drug you can think of

Love seeing Dr Mike, he drops gems every single time

I would love to interview Mike more in-depth about the mental health tied to gear. I'm a huge fan of Dr Mike would be down to train anytime 10000%

Loved this. Never heard roids being spoken about like this before. Thanks.

I completely understand what Mike is saying about the anxiety /panic attacks without a reason (for reference i do not have any kind of anxiety normally). Except i had gotten this kind of anxiety from taking a hairloss drug. It was terrible. So, it was either that or the hair keeps getting thinner, so i opted for inner peace.

Dr Mike all the same things happened to me the anxiety and panic attacks were terrible, but unlike you I was very skinny I gained 30lbs in 31days and my strength went through the roof but my training partner knew all this and kept me level, the only problem I was 48 when I started and it screwed up my liver then I got cancer so I had to give it up

Dr. Mike thank you for your knowledge and transparency. You are literally saving lives. ❤

With TRT doses, the psychological effects are great. It aids in socializing in corporate settings and build more confidence around others.

@andrewevans7992

Жыл бұрын

Trt dose doesn’t do shit lol..

@Jackthompson01

Жыл бұрын

Wdym corporate settings?

@alndi3

Жыл бұрын

@@Jackthompson01 Work and networking with firm partners, client management and execs

@OrlandoAponte

Жыл бұрын

​@@Jackthompson01 It just makes you an all-around better worker. I think it helps with decisiveness and assertiveness, which are things that even a lot of high performers struggle with.

@KrazyKrzysztof

Жыл бұрын

not worth it. stay natty. enjoy the lifting

I never took roids but the aggression and being annoyed easily sounds similar when I worked out hard and wasn't resting enough. I think I was just burning too much power and not recovering as well and it made me irritated easy.

I'd be interested to know how much gear he is taking when he is talking about his side effects

Dr mike is probably the most intelligent bodybuilder I know of, he s able to put pretty much everything into words. No matter how dumber gear is gonna get him, he should not worry much, he s still gonna be smarter than most

I now understand why Larry couldn't stop chasing insane PRs. The physiological aspect of steroids is often underrated and not spoken about enough. Thanks Dr. Mike, I respect you even more now for your very honest interview.

What u feel depends on which drug u r using, your own body, your overall health, on the dosage u take, and your diet. I usually feel like crap as the dosages go up... hard to breathe, heavy to move, sleep problems, etc

Dr mike is da man. Gives you nothing but the pure knowledge, then you make up your mind. Rare on KZread.

I get the opposite of anxiety. When i go off then I get anxiety

Love the honesty.

Wow! Great interview, I never knew all that went in to taking muscle drugs, it's definitely not worth taking a chance with my health.

I'm the complete opposite. When i'm on cycle, I only feel aggression while I'm lifting and it's literally only while doing my set. i'll go all out, and damn near "black out" during the set, almost not remembering it, but once it's done, I'm completely calm and serene and feel no sense of anger or anything.. it's a strange feeling, but it's also euphoric. It's like having an out of body experience.. like, I'm watching myself do that set in a way.

@Mandzoooo

3 ай бұрын

Same here, I've only ever done test but if anything I am more mellow on it than when I'm off. I think a part of it is the confidence it can give you. I'm way more positive about the future, less anxiety, less stressed, it's definitely noticeable.

Ok, I feel like I'm on gear all the time: anger, insane frustration, even had a panic attack a few days ago. But I don't use steroids, barely have money for creatine. Sometimes I feel like frustration is going to kill me. One thing is very well pointed out: I feel like I don't have emotions. If I don't work out especially. It feels like something inside of myself pushing outside, leaving no place for compassion, fear, doubts. I try to feel something, but there is just nothing, just a desire for action. Probably I have just high testosterone. And I'm 30 yo.

Keep in mind what Mike said, the experience is very individual. I for one, had very few of the side effects he mentioned. In fact, every aspect of my life got better, not just physically. In a way, it's worse that way, because you can develop a love affair with the feeling of being on, which can lead to addiction. Long story short, respect what it is that you're putting in your body. Shit ain't a game.

I’m a combat vet and no shit I feel exactly how he describes and I’ve never touched any gear! I could never touch it, would be bad news for me! And thanks for this episode! Y’all killed it!

Dr. Mike is the GOAT!! And thanks to you guys from Barbell Brigade for making this interview!!

8:01 Dr Mike is describing my regular life. I better not EVER take any gear. 12:48 yep, definitely me and I’ve never done gear 😅

I didn't really feel anything. I definitely got insane pumps and gained weight and never really felt Ultra sore at any point. It seemed like I could recover from whatever workouts I could do and if I had had more time I probably could have stayed in the gym for 3 hours instead of like one and a half or two like normal

“How dare you gear” hahaha love this guy

dont usually comment this guy gave a real good idea on the mental negatives good job!.

Which compound was the one that used that u said I can go harder was it dbol sounds like it

honest and open. mike

That Super Saiyan analogy was perfect lol

NEEEVER have i heard someone speak about steroids in this way. THANK YOU

Thank you Dr Mike for your transparency

Excellent conversation

The DBZ reference, that's gold

Mike saying he is more anxious and uptight on roids is the exact opposite of what happened to me. I literally felt like I was 18 again and was just cruising through life feeling relaxed and confident in my ability to handle what my day would throw at me. Had less rage and anxiety on test E.🤷‍♂️

@reezyisback

Жыл бұрын

Interesting . Did you have low T before gear ? I wonder if you already have high T & take gear that will cause some anxiety ?

@hanskazan7403

Жыл бұрын

because he's talking about blasting tren dianabol and high dose test but if youre just taking low dose test you feel great

@pHaTtY111111111111

Жыл бұрын

It was 500 a week of test enanthate for 12 weeks. So no Tren that's for sure.

@Kevin-kj5th

Жыл бұрын

Same took test e and felt like I was invincible. Mentally and physically stronger than I ever was before. Excellent mood all the time. Zero bad side effects on it except maybe hairline but I’m not sure.

@TC-mk1tc

Жыл бұрын

@@Kevin-kj5th doesn't finasteride stop those hairline side effects on test? How did you feel with your PCT?

Respect to Mike for being honest. More people need to hear this

I'm a simple gymbro🦍, I see Dr Mike and I smash that like 🙌👾

By far the reality n realest way of explaining how we all feel if you don’t take ur vitamins and PCT’s n peptides

It's crazy how it sounds like he can't wait to get off gear but he just doesn't do it... for the past 10 years

@alaefarmestatesllc

Жыл бұрын

Then he’s willing to do it for another 5 years if he must before calling it quits lol.

@andrewevans7992

Жыл бұрын

He can do trt dose to hold his size but doesn’t mean he will blast or have huge cycles?

@froggy3496

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewevans7992 i think you got it wrong. Once he gets off cycle he HAS to do TRT because his body is used to being on gear. Also he will lose some size being on TRT

@andrewevans7992

Жыл бұрын

@@froggy3496 i know… im not stupid. I take stuff myself

@froggy3496

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewevans7992 well 1. How would I know, I'm just judging your other comment. 2. There's a lot of idiots on gear

This was absolutely delicious. Mike and Bart Kwan are hilarious together!

the hardest part of lifting is recovery so you can lift again the next day. Gear seems to help with recovery the most

Great crossover!

Remember been a young man and taking dbol for 3 months followed by a month of tren before deciding it wasn't for me turned out to be a hyper responder to dbol gained roughly 12 to 15lb a month ending in about a stone/14 lb on average (some water weight) gain per month side effects where minimal gained some gyno followed by stretch marks and increased frustration/aggression which was controlled as I'm already a reasonably relaxed person but I do believe steroids increase certain personality traits including aggression lastly was sore tendons presumably from drematic weight and strength increase which was so bad that it was actually the main reason I decided not to carry on and go off which brings me to probably the most significant side effect I had which was my mood and mental state after coming off which was generally low energy feeling useless and pathetic perhaps slightly depressed due to drematic muscle loss and going from having heaps of energy to now next to none pluss the body image issues due to the drematic loss of muscle I'd have to say by far the coming off was physiologically the hardest part all things said and done much happier now making steady progress naturally and feeling much better with my body image although I did struggle for 5-6 years after with my body image but 100% feel I made the right decision before I got so far in with steroids that there's no going back. All I can say if anyone wants to take them think long and hard about you're mental state beforehand as any cracks in you're personality will be amplified

That's horrendous! No man should ever touch that stuff.

it use to be the same for me. Was always a very relaxed/not frustrated person. Now I have to manage frustration a lot for simple little things. The only difference with me is that I am not on gear haha. I think the change happened when I developed a chronic condition that leaves me in pain all day long. It's not bad pain like for some others with the condition but it does slowly chip away at you constantly.

@sveha6271

2 ай бұрын

What condition ?

That's the opposite of my experience. Besides the positives and negatives are all dose and compound specific. Taking TRT is technically being on gear, yet that is simply to put yourself in healthy ranges. Many people will probably feel better having high normal levels of T compared to low.

This dude is if joe rogan and dana white had a baby

Where's the full podcast video? Link anyone? Thanks 👌

You feel great while on and at least for me I was going up 5 pounds on all my lifts a week just on test and primo. When you’re nearing the time to get off my anxiety would go through the roof and you start to questions is it all worth it. I swear I’m on my last cycle this time and that freaks me out even more.

This probably just saved my life. Thank you.

These are the conversations we need to be having

My experience when I took it in my earlier 20s was nothing like that. It benefited my psychology massively. I was only taking testosterone though, and not at an insane dose.

@maxk880

8 ай бұрын

Depends on a lot of things I guess, physically and mentally

Loved this!! ❤

Great interview!!

Wow! I feel exactly like Mike described to the minor detail and never even touched steroids in my life

Dr mike is just straight to the point. Gotta love it

Dr. Mike always has truth bombs for us.

what an amazing guy. those 15 minutes flew by

I think he purposefully talked more about the negatives. Also, the strength gains depend on individual response. In my 1st cycle, I was taking a flat dose of 5mg dbol per day and my bench press went up with 30 kg in 40 days.

@Cristyface

3 ай бұрын

But he did make a great point about how connective tissue and tendons and whatnot take longer to catch up so you can injure yourself easier, especially if your strength is shooting up. I climb and it's been drilled into me that you really gotta be careful with those tendons.

@ConnoisseurOfExistence

3 ай бұрын

@@Cristyface Right. I'm lucky that I avoided injury.

Trained legextsnsion 3 times a week and within a few weeks lifting almost the whole stack. Was always worried cause got strong too quick and tendons would snap.