I come to this channel for the dispelling of bro science. I'm interested in hearing about training, dieting, AND drugs. It's all interesting to learn about. The more you know the easier it is to make intelligent, safe decisions about your own fitness journey.

@RenaissancePeriodization

2 жыл бұрын

Very well put. - Dr. Mike

@matthewchouinard3668

2 жыл бұрын

@@RenaissancePeriodization dr mike... we WANT more of this, yes, I speak for everyone

@ssj1260

2 жыл бұрын

I only come here to have a peek at their forearms, yo.

@mklightemup3567

2 жыл бұрын

100%

@locof6

2 жыл бұрын

What the safer model can you talk about that ?

Listening to Jared breathe heavily just talking lets me know they aint for me

@JAREDFEATHERRP

2 жыл бұрын

100 fucking percent lol

@suhwateezea.214

2 жыл бұрын

Yes exactly. Although he is a IFBB pro

@flabio7074

2 жыл бұрын

He makes terrible sounds the whole video

@matt_fxs

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder how much can be controlled by improving one’s conditioning

@danielmccutcheon4944

2 жыл бұрын

That or he just took a line of coke or Adderall, which are both abused for weight loss and prep

Dr Mike and Jared, thank you. It's painfully obvious how uncomfortable talking about this stuff is, but that tells me that it's super important. Kids are killing themselves on bad protocols and boys are growing up with insane dysmorphia issues because none of this stuff has ever been transparent. I think it's really good that you're doing this.

@troyantczak

2 жыл бұрын

I mean I just want to look like Chris bumstead

@HolyPineCone

2 жыл бұрын

Just talking period, seems quite uncomfortable to be honest

@Ryan_DeWitt

2 жыл бұрын

You and Jared make a good team. You have good chemistry together explaining things without sounding like your just making up a bunch of BS. Hope to see more collaboration in the future.

@ryan_dosa

2 жыл бұрын

AGREED!

@gojira444

2 жыл бұрын

@@troyantczak lmao

I've always loved the "if I were taking x, I'd look just like that". I wish the only differences between me and Jay Cutler were drugs.

@analogcrunch4716

2 жыл бұрын

Gh and gear make a huge difference you are naive.

@RenaissancePeriodization

2 жыл бұрын

Right? If only! - Dr. Mike

@ZaneGeeting

2 жыл бұрын

@@analogcrunch4716 and you know better than everyone else. 🙄

@cynicalclockworks9857

2 жыл бұрын

@@analogcrunch4716 right on, man.

@suckonthebigtoe279

2 жыл бұрын

Tbf if you have good structure you could be a hyper responder to gear with blessed joints and a solid heart. You might blow the fuck up who knowz

Even though I'm natural, I do find this side of the industry fascinating to learn about. Largely because even if you are natural, you still see their impact on the overall industry.

@moonbull3137

2 жыл бұрын

Same I fucking hate needles and the side effects are fucking brutal. Steroid culture in general though Is very interesting to me for some reason

@hanskazan7403

Жыл бұрын

@@moonbull3137 there arent even side effects if youre dont blasting tons of gear just little cycles no sides at all

@joseteexperto7688

Жыл бұрын

@@hanskazan7403 Umm of course there wont be any negative side effects while youre taking it, the side effects start after the cycle. If you dont believe me try going cold turkey after any cycle - there will be side effects.

@dersuddeutschesumpf5444

Жыл бұрын

​@@Sweatyphalangeswithdrawal is by definition a symptom of a physical addiction and since most steroids only work effectively you've been taking them continuously like an addict, I'd say calling that side effects is fair game

Always great to see The Doc discussing stuff with Jared. Highly informative, straight to the point and no BS. You guys are great!

Some of the best Information out there right now, you guys are killing it much appreciated

I really appreciate the open talks about gear. It's much needed for a good percentage of us. Would like to hear more about this. 👍

@ryannachtrab

2 жыл бұрын

@@paymon11 I used to think Bostin was such a douchebag, then he turned into one of the realest mfs in the industry. RIP brother 🙏

I really appreciate how open and honest this conversation is about the pharma side of body building. Hearing this kinda sets me at ease now knowing I can never look like the pros without at least some pharmaceutical assistance. Thanks.

Very understandable that it's uncomfortable to talk about. I find it interesting but I'm really watching the channel to learn about training. However I think getting valid factual information out there is absolutely valuable to the public good. Sounds a bit wild but you're helping people (both natural & enhanced) and you may even be saving lives doing this. Good stuff.

super interesting. thanks guys, major thumbs up for the honesty and no bs approach.

I actually really appreciate the transparency aspect of these, much like the rest of the channel.

Terrific video as per usual, really cool to hear people talk about this openly. I would be curious to hear your speculation on the future of muscle building drugs. I know you had once mentioned some therapies being developed for muscular dystrophy that might one day be applied for muscle building. It'd be interesting to hear.

These videos are greatly appreciated especially with all the deaths recently personally I highly doubt I'll ever cross over into the "Darkside" and I greatly attribute that to the likes of Greg, Derek and you guys I do just find this stuff genuinely interesting.

Love the transparency in this video and the comment section is filled with people supporting one another, this is the kind of thing we need more of

I really appreciate the transparency and the thoughtful insight. More collective information is better for everyone and takes us farther than be individualistic. Knowledge is meant to be shared

Yes, more content like this please! You guys are seriously my favorite source of info for bodybuilding

I love asking an IFBB pro if pros are on a lot of drugs. Of course he's going to say no. The sport is a gongshow and the pros use tons of gear.

Great discussion, loved sit down talks like these with an experienced perspective, no bullshit just good information

These open conversations are very insightful & as much this may be a slightly uncomfortable conversation to have. I believe they're beneficial & you're doing good work. 🙏

I love that this is an open conversation more and more. Even in my first year of training I feel a lot of temptation to start taking something, but being aware of the horror stories and the health risks helps balance.

@RenaissancePeriodization

2 жыл бұрын

Stay away from that shit until you've been natty for YEARS AND YEARS at least. I absolutely do judge the fuck out of people that jump the gun, if that means anything to you. - Dr. Mike

@Xpert2077

2 жыл бұрын

@Renaissance Periodization Other than people who need it. I've been trying for 3 years to get on trt. I'm now 34 years old. Levels have been low for years. I just got my issa cert and have been training hard for 2 years with maybe 5% gains. T levels high 100s low 200s. Each person is different.

@cscsontren5666

2 жыл бұрын

@@JGH1708 the calculus of making that decision will be different for each person. While I think it’s a safe bet that any use beyond true replacement doses will have some negative health effects, if other health risks are minimized I think well-informed and conservative use may more or less be equivalent to the health consequences of the average person having a bad diet or another person being extremely sedentary. If that is the case- and In terms of supraphysiological doses of bio identical hormones (to a degree of course, 5 grams of test/week is going to be unhealthy any way you cut it) but even up to a gram/week I wager that almost certainly the health risks are minimal or at least comparable to other fairly unhealthy life choices that won’t necessarily take off actual years of life-I think one can see pretty easily why people would go the route of using AAS. Many people who love sky diving, bungee jumping, free climbing etc have no aspirations or hopes of being professional and these activities are of course detrimental to health and safety. I think it’s a similar concept.

@cscsontren5666

2 жыл бұрын

@@JGH1708 I would agree that definitely describes many users but I think many end up using for almost the opposite reason: insecurity. No matter the reason though I just hope they educate themselves so they can do it as safely as possible, which, like virtually anything, even the ideal will not be 100% safe.

@HumanGorillaHormone

11 ай бұрын

​@@Xpert2077sir, if ur test is that low I don't understand why a doctor wouldn't prescribe you testosterone asap. I'd get another doctor. Or, even easier buy some testosterone from a local source (I'm sure you know many) or you could even buy online altho most online places have a minimum order of $150 or $200 and u won't need to spend anywhere near that. If u want legit HRT and nothing more I'd get Ur bloodwork done one more time, this time also testing Ur free testosterone, total testosterone, LH, FSH, estradiol, thyroid level, GH serum test, and GH stimulating test. On top of Ur liver values (ast and alt are standard but make sure it has Ur GGT added bc the previous two are useless), hemoglobin a1c (blood sugar over a long period), then regular blood and lipid panel just for regular health. Which will iclude hdl, LDL, triglycerides, rbc, hemoglobin, hematrocrit, wbc, platelet count etc. This will give us a broader spectrum look at Ur health and what Ur markers are... To Know any gaps that need to be filled. If Ur test is still low then Ur Gunna want to go on trt which ud want to acquire 2 or 3 10ml bottles of testosterone enanthate or cypionate. They're essentially the same thing with slightly different half lives 4.5 days for Enanthate vs 8 days for cypionate. U could interchange them and likely not notice a difference. And they should be the same price. Usually they come in 200 or 250mg/ml so if your "doctor" had u start at 100mg per week as most would if Ur levels were low. I would have u inject 0.1mL every mon/wed/fri/Sun if it's 250mg/ml using a 1/2" aka 12mm 28 or 29 or 30ga insulin syringe that is 3/10mL volume syringe. If u stayed at this dosage, those 3 bottles (total investment of $250usd at the absolute highest reasonable price imaginable) would keep u going for 75 weeks. And those 300 insulin syringes (assuming u use a new one every time) cost as little as $76 shipped on a quick google search. So we will say $100 shipped. So in total Ur looking at $4.70 per week. Assuming u didn't also have low thyroid or growth hormone also. Particularly growth hormone. If u, "require" hgh for Ur HRT.and have an insurancw provider who will cover it or cover most of it. You've basically won the lottery if u care about body composition and gains. Also, now would be a good time to mention the 100mg/ml TRT Replacement dose has been shown in multiple studies to have the exact same health profile as if you took up to 350 or 400mg/week for most people. And just incase there's any question in Ur mind... I'll point out that 400mg/ml of testosterone and a legit HRT dose of growth hormone, from a US pharmacy is enough to make crazy gains and have u looking better than 99% of humans on earth. While likely never having to come off or adjust dosages. So that's what id do. Theoretically of course 😛

From personal experience at the local/regional level mens physique guys usually take 1G to 1.5G. Bodyweight usually around 185-205 on stage. (But I've also known some very genetically blessed mens physique guys take as little 400mg a week and are over 200 lbs on stage)

@gabrielepirovano3529

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, i think that only those who are genetically blessed should compete and go off the edge Not to be an asshole, but the Health/gains ratio gets skewed as much as the drugs you’re adding

@4uto_4ddict

2 жыл бұрын

@Ali Mehrozi - thanks for the transparency.

@Dan-zs8pk

2 жыл бұрын

You can’t compare a mg of eq and mast to like likes of tren. 200mg of tren is probably 1000mg of eq equivalent for size gains

@alimehrozi2828

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dan-zs8pk most guys I know in men's physique who are near pro or pro level take between 100mg to 200mg of tren. But tren is so bad for sleep that even 100mg is enough to give alot of ppl insomnia, ED, nasty acne, and a very bad mood.

@dime4026

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comments. Any comments in relation to age and amount taken?

The two of you chatting are always enjoyable to hear.

Thank you, Dr. Mike and Jared! It’s great to have stalwarts like yourselves address this and bring some clarity to this rather murky world.

The occasional informative video about drug use is fun and interesting! Would love to see one every month or every other month. I have no interest in using performance enhancing drugs, but I like learning about it 😁

As someone who isn't interested in taking drugs... I'm VERY interested in the science and health behind them so thank you for the glimpse of reality that I would otherwise never be privy to

I honestly believe that open discussion about the facts of what people are taking is the key to preventing misuse.

This was really great. This is the content I was missing from you. Fantastic.

Great video. This is important to know, because we are in the fitness space. Like it or not, these drugs are in this space and it’s important to understand them. Why? Because this knowledge allows us to make safe decisions. It’s not enough to say steroids are bad, you need to explain why. And, as we can see, those committed to turning pro often place their life at extreme risk. Knowing that, we can make an informed decision as to whether we should pursue it.

Most bodybuilders are taking tons of drugs...... so are powerlifters, strongmen, crossfit, etc. Usually multiple compounds at any given time. That doesn't mean if someone takes drugs they'll be a pro. But that also doesn't mean pros aren't juicier than a glass of minute maid.

Great video, appreciate the indepth talk and putting it out there.

Love these kind of videos, I would love for you guys to talk about growth hormone and how no studies have found any muscle growth from it, yet most bodybuilders swear by it..

I will likely never use performance enhancers, but I love the transparency. Keep the content coming.

@Pile_of_carbon

2 жыл бұрын

Damn straight! I train to be healthier, not sicker.

@NightLetterLondon

7 ай бұрын

@@Pile_of_carbon unless it is TRT. true TRT is life affirming, and positive for men's health.

Absolutely fascinating video! Thank you for sharing this information. I'm a natural, but have always wondered what elite-level individuals do to achieve their results. I am a biomedical engineer so my interest stems from a general curiosity to understand underlying physiology, and getting a better insight as to what risk athletes are exposing themselves to. Are you considering discussing cases where individuals achieved specific results with their regiment, and on the flip side, where their usage resulted in consequences (from silly/benign to disasterous/fatal)? Always appreciate your content! I learned a lot thanks to the RP Team!

@HolyPineCone

2 жыл бұрын

Ey, same backstory! High five!

@jjohns17

2 жыл бұрын

@@HolyPineCone 🙌🍻

Dr Mike on a real I love you man. I genuinely feel like you give a shit about us. My training and physique has changed ever since I started to take in your information. Thank you 🙏🏾

I defo need to do more after hearing this. Lesson learned. Thanx

Thank you for mentioning the psychological part of it all. My anxiety would always get magnified and I had to stop competing cuz of it

@Run_IT_Riddler

8 ай бұрын

Same 100% I became less humorous and funny like I am naturally, and more distant and pulled back, anxious all the time, over analyzing situations and hyper conscious etc. I’m still not the same

@Ryan83728

7 ай бұрын

deca does this

@BakiFit2003

7 ай бұрын

​@@Run_IT_Riddlersame but I did show natty.

@BakiFit2003

5 ай бұрын

@@JohnPaul-sh4tu i did it natural way and it is not the drugs it is your brain.

This was enlightening and eye-opening !!! I always wondered what bodybuilders, of all types, were "possibly" doing. I grew up in the 70's and 80's and was completely naive as to the amounts of it that people were taking. I had bought a bottle of deca, but was too much of a chickens*hit to take it, but used it as a motivation to stay with the guys that were on "gear" through high school, and while in the military, as far as weights and sets. As a 54, almost 55 yr old, I am still going to the gym, and am doing more dumbbell and bodyweight work now, having never been on any gear. Thank you for the insight. Keep up the great work !!!

DR Mike. I;ve been watching all your videos. You are awesome. So much detail in your videos and in such a simplistic way...and the humour is out of this world

This is fun and informative. Would love to hear more about stuff like this!

I'm working on obtaining my master in Psychology and I'm striving to become a my established trainer. I hope to combine the two physical and mental health in order to help and counsel clients. Question for either Jared or Mike and you guys can make a video on it. What's your take on being healthy mentally going into training. You're the only two trainers I see talk about it I honestly think mental health is numero uno when it comes to all aspects of life. I'm a huge advocate for it and hope to change the landscape of how people think because it is very stigmatized. Thanks for reading my comment.

Please more videos like these. I’ve been training for 4 years naturally, in a gym full of guys on drugs, and I’d love to know what the true repercussions are long term (I genuinely do this for health).

@nathanhyde2079

2 жыл бұрын

That's the point, it's not fitness anymore when you have clogged arteries and an enlarged heart.

@alastairatcheson1407

Жыл бұрын

I was chatting to a fella in my gym and he said when he was younger he started having a single blind spot in one of his eyes. He went and got it checked and the doctor said (after asking him or seeing his bloods) that it's a blood vessel busted and if you keep taking PEDs you will lose your sight. After hearing that he went off the stuff.

@seanknox7321

11 ай бұрын

Wait 6 more years. Then come find updated drug videos from Dr Mike.

Great content, I feel like competitors will do whatever it takes which is scary. Hoping it keeps going towards healthier physiques

Thank you for talking about this. Love your channel!

I'd like to see a video on what the ladies use in all divisions!

Man, as someone who already has some anger issues (thanks, dad), I can't imagine dealing with normal stresses while on gear. Getting super angry because the water fountain is too slow or some shit lol.

@squatcurldeadlift7346

2 жыл бұрын

Lmfao right I'd crash my car into anyone that cuts me off

@DeRockMedia

2 жыл бұрын

i dont like to be angry anymore, so I choose to be happy...takes years of training, but i feel we decide what emotions to let take over...hitting the weights deff takes out my aggression.

@LukasWeber-ne6pg

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeRockMedia i was in the same Position all my life till i took LSD, u need to reflect youself, life can be so much better when u try to have a positiv mind, be nice to everyone, try to laugh here and there with strangers, just little Things that will add up to a newer happier life, positivity will attract positivity If you are allways angry and take it out on others then u make their life worse

@KotauFPS

2 жыл бұрын

If I get pissed at almost anything when Im cutting, my social life couldnt handle also being pissed off when bulking on gear...

@DeRockMedia

2 жыл бұрын

@@LukasWeber-ne6pg i understand... if i wake up irritable...i still try to crack jokes with friends or coworkers which helps put me in a good mood... ive been spiritually very happy now due to that

awesome video we love these kinda podcast/open discussion stuff

Honestly, I think all knowledge is good knowledge in some context, right? I wouldn't generally comment on your stuff because I just like watching and clicking the like. But seeing your reactions and the way you talk about this topic has made me feel the need to say that I like the content you guys put out and I think even stuff like this, as a natural body builder in little New Zealand helps a lot. We have a lot of issues in a few federations over here, but I've been sticking with a federation that's purely natty. I'll stay that way quite likely, also. But it'll be nice to know this sort of stuff so I know generally who to "look out for" on stage and staying as true to myself as possible :) Much love guys

Thanks RP! Pls tell us where bubblegut comes from: insulin? growth hormone? food volume? How did a few bodybuilders reverse it? Would be nice to know!

more talks with Jared, please!

This was an enlightening conversation, thank yall so much.

You guys are ones of the most intelligent people in the field for me, of course I want to hear what you have to say about drugs. If you're comfortable with, of course. It will very interesting to hear what you know about side effects both mental and physical.

Is it me or Jared is literally gasping for air while sitting down?

@user-bt2su4ob7s

12 күн бұрын

bodybuilding is a joke of a beaty contest

Honestly the drug side of things is really fascinating just from a curiosity nerdy POV as someone who’s prob never gonna take the plunge- it’s really interesting learning how they’re leveraged as another tool etc just like optimization of natural vectors of training/recovery

@HkFinn83

2 жыл бұрын

That’s what they say in public. I’ve seen more than one ‘coach’s’ plans and it’s all chemicals. Training and eating you can learn in 5 minutes. Real pros are just genetics and chemicals.

@arkdude8484

Жыл бұрын

look up nasser interview lol n leo longetivity channel

Thank you Dr Mike for the transparency. I also think this stuff is boring, but if I could pick a drug to talk about, it would be melanotan 2, and just tanning procedures in general. I am pasty white, Scottish, Irish, and German, so yeah

Love this content people really need to hear about what pros are taking. Alot of people are lying causing young teens to take grams of stuff

a certain mg holds onto a certain kg of muscle ... that is just how it works ... very cool to hear the knowledge verified ... more gear ... more muscle ... what we all knew but so many deny

@christopherfaulkner5821

2 жыл бұрын

The science has supported there is a concrete dose/response relationship with steroids for a while. Yes, it does plateau out where the more you take isn’t as beneficial as it once was but more IS better. People lie about this to protect idiots with shit genetics/newbies, from jumping on 5 grams of gear in an impossible effort to turn pro. However, the truth is, more gear = more gains. The issue is more gear also = higher likelihood of running into significant health problems if not immediately, certainly down the line. It’s a risk all pro bodybuilders have decided to take.

@arkdude8484

Жыл бұрын

@@christopherfaulkner5821 i agree lol. you gain more muscle the more gear you take. moreplatemoreate think taking 250 mg of test is all you neet when thats a fking lie lol

Quick question: I wanted to buy one of the muscle focused templates and saw that the weren't available anymore Is there any specific reason for that?

@RenaissancePeriodization

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah! The Custom Training Templates are just better in every single way! renaissanceperiodization.com/custom-training-templates - Dr. Mike

@danhoeben6589

2 жыл бұрын

I can vouch for their awesomeness. Zero regrets with my purchase of a custom template.

@Strassenschlaeger

2 жыл бұрын

@@RenaissancePeriodization Thanks for the quick response. I already run the custom ones for 1 block and agree: They're awesome. I just wanted to prioritize some muscles and before buying another custom template, I thought about the muscle focused ones. Again thanks for clearing that up and also for the great content. Your videos und Training templates helped me a lot breaking through my first few growth plateaus in the intermediate stage.

Definitely enjoy these conversations

I love how open you are.

Talk about the guy you mentioned who you coached to pro naturally What were the differences between him and your enhanced athletes. Im sure his genetics had a large role to play but interesting to hear how the prep compares to say Charlys prep that was recently broken down by dr mike

May telling the truth make you both very wealthy!!!!

Come here primarily for training content but I appreciate these posts as well.

This is great, would love more of this 🙏

I’m 32 years old, 5’10 and 180lbs (started my lifting journey at like 135lbs) and just reached 10 years of training (maybe only 5 years of smartly training, just training for a pump before with no plan). I feel like I’m reaching my natural genetic potential and I’m aging, to get gains everything has to be perfect (sleep,eating,consistency and programming), what can I do to get past this if anything and if I were to jump on gear with seemingly pretty good genetics, how much weight could that potentially add to my body? Also, is it true 1 inch of height is about 10lbs of weight?

@hanscastorp1945

2 жыл бұрын

what would be a conservative first step into PEDs? What is considered the less dangerous way to take gear?

@WillyDee123

2 жыл бұрын

@@hanscastorp1945 lowest effective dose of Test only. Observe affects and results. Adjust doseage or add compounds one by one in subsequent cycles and observe affects and results. Rinse repeat. Start low brother. Some say take a TRT dose, ie around 200mg per week. Some say 500mg per week. Totally individual and dependent on your body. If you start low you can reap rewards (with less risk and sides) longer and then as you plateau, taper up dose. Check MorePlatesMoreDates out for more in depth info.

@domepiece11

2 жыл бұрын

Try mixing up your training regimen first. Try the ATG program, for instance and start doing slant board squats, split squats, reverse squats. See if you can meet all the ATG strength standards. Or get more into calisthenics. Working out is about a lot more than just size. Remember, the most aesthetic or healthy individuals are rarely the largest.

@hanscastorp1945

2 жыл бұрын

@@WillyDee123 thanks for the reply, brother. I appreciate it.

Are pros on kitchen sink? ABSOLUTELY YES Go a step farther 90% of influencers on KZread are on the kitchen sink to get big and cut so people will listen to their channel. Who is gonna listen to a 190 lb. Average looking guy with average arms even though he might be the smartest person in the world on bodybuilding. You have got to look the part to get anyone to listen to you and certainly to make money.

@DrAJ_LatinAmerica

2 жыл бұрын

Hear what you are saying. Public is stupid. Plain and simple. Arnold, Phil, Jay, Ronnie... would not necessarily be the best coach for food, drugs, chemicals, medications, lifestyle.....Why? Well in general the BEST coaches were never the best players and the Best players, almost never make the best coaches / trainers and generally real medical education / support required. Most influencer know what they did for themselves, but generally not able to cross over to other sports or help people with special needs.

@RenaissancePeriodization

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if that's true. I mean, it's definitely true for some KZreadrs. But like Jeff Nippard is natural and has a huge fitness channel. AthleanX (ugh, even typing his name brings me pain lol) is natty. So is Omar, and Eugene Teo and Will Tennyson, etc. Which KZreadrs that are not active pro bodybuilders do you suspect are on the kitchen sink? I mean, I'm sure they are around, I just can't think of any (RIP Rich Piana). - Dr. Mike

@DrAJ_LatinAmerica

2 жыл бұрын

@@RenaissancePeriodization natural ? Do we actually know for certain? Here in Colombia and Panama we see a lot of "natural" patients / clients looking to cheat and do not want the movie producer or their coach / trainer to know. Vanity is the devil's favorite sin. Naty or not? Never know till you live with that person and even then sometimes their are still secrets within a family. The world we live. Certainly agree, not the kitchen sink, signs are clear

@shred9475

2 жыл бұрын

@@RenaissancePeriodization both of jeffs are fake natties...

@bobbyhunt3009

2 жыл бұрын

@@RenaissancePeriodization Yes there are some that stayed natty and u certainly know better than me who is and who isn't. I think most at least have taken Test to get their look and to me with all due respect that is steroids. I did one cycle of Test and only Test (3 months) and I got stronger than ever been and got huge off one 3 month cycle. People like Ryan Hummiston, Greg Doucette, Leo, Mike Bell, Nick Trugili, Simon Miller, Nick's strength guy, just to name a few I think have at least taken Test. I know Greg admits it. Personally I see nothing wrong with taken steroids if done correctly. I just get so many dreamers around me who thinks everybody is natty and they get mad at me when I tell them the truth so when i saw ur video this morning my dreamers popped in my head and I guess I was defending my position in my comments to u and I am sorry if the comments came off as anger toward u that certainly was not my intention. Not at all angry with u, on the contrary I enjoy watching u.

Love this content, Please give us more!

Really enjoy hearing what's really happening.

I'm competing for an ifbb pro card in the men's open category and my blasts are something like this: 1000mg of test 4-500 npp or deca 100mg anadrol 4-8iu of hgh 15iu of slow acting insulin I'm on blast about 9 or 10 months out of the year

@peternagy-im4be

Жыл бұрын

You WILL die.

@Dan16673

10 ай бұрын

4realz?

@simonoxholmk6216

10 ай бұрын

@@Dan16673 yes sir

@NightLetterLondon

7 ай бұрын

hope you're healthy 10 yrs down the road man..

How in the world could anyone train with the level of injection site pain with 23g/wk?

@germanrud9904

2 жыл бұрын

Squats makes the pip better

Great video. Just subbed to the Physique collective app. So much good Information. Thanks brahs.

I don't like drugs, but I find this kind of content extremely fascinating and insightful. There is so much false information about this topic and hearing from personal and rich experience is much appreciated.

Im on 125 mg per week TRT because of side effects from testicular cancer. It made a world of difference for me. I cant even fathom what 500 mg would do lol!

@rdpainting801

9 ай бұрын

500...or 3000😂😂😂😂😅

@NightLetterLondon

7 ай бұрын

i'm currently on 175 mg TRT. but will bring it down a bit soon i think. i have blood work every 3 mos, which really is the only way to know what is actually happening and to stay completely on top of your health..

"hey doctor help me take steroids properly" "Nope" "ok, I'll follow something i found on the internet then"

@Pile_of_carbon

2 жыл бұрын

People who reason like that probably aren't likely to be interested in being smart about it to begin with. Doctors on the other hand have a strict ethical code to follow or they won't be doctors for very much longer. It's like kids who use the same argument to blackmail their parents for booze. If the parents give in, the kid will most likely drink the sketchy stuff anyway because their reasoning is already impaired.

@NightLetterLondon

7 ай бұрын

the doc's response is because they're illegal, what do you expect..?

@dessertstorm7476

7 ай бұрын

I expect the above. That's why i wrote it.

@InappropriateShorts

4 ай бұрын

@@Pile_of_carbonthe same doctors that think you can “reassign” your gender?

Fantastic discussion as always.... would be interested in a discussion of the ubiquitous similar claim that EVERYONE is on gear in powerlifting/weightlifting - included tested feds.

Hey guys, I'd be really interested in learning where steroids come from. I'm natural and will stay that way, but I also live in Mexico, and this country is being torn apart by drug trafficking. Are steroids part of that cartel business model? They're legal here. You can get them at the corner store. Are they being smuggled North? Or are steroids always at least somewhat ethically sourced? I'm trying to understand the moral implications of this stuff.

@8EnigmaVirus8

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and no. Steroids in the US come from a variety of sources - legal purchases in other countries shipped to the US, illegal underground labs in the US, legal pharmaceutical TRT or HRT for transgenders resold illegally, and legal purchases in other countries carried back to the US by the purchaser. Testosterone and other steroids are generally not illegally smuggled by latin/south american cartels into the US simply because its not very profitable compared to drug smuggling, a kilo of cocaine has a street value of ~30k USD while a kilo of testosterone raws would run closer to 1k USD. If you got caught smuggling a kilo of either you would get hit with the same trafficking charge so its just not a good risk:reward ratio.

@shaneduquette

2 жыл бұрын

@@8EnigmaVirus8 Thank you so much! This is exactly what I was curious about.

@kimjongun2536

2 жыл бұрын

steroids for the most part are restricted prescription drugs and are used in a variety of medical uses .Then you have underground labs that essentially copy the prescription drugs. and then you also have ones designed for animal use so like horses and cows.

It’s peculiar to use “3 grams year around” as the threshold for “tons of drugs”. It sort of illustrates the point they are on tons of drugs because 10-15 years ago you’d probably halve or third that benchmark. Don’t get me wrong, there is absolute validity to the core points being made and dispelling the “if I took what you took…” mantra. All that said this isn’t a complaint because it was a pretty honest discussion that the answer is generally a resounding “yes”.

Knowledge is knowledge. Having solid information, even if the subject isn't exactly main stream, is a good thing.

This is hands down the best fitness resource on the internet. Would you guys be able to talk about PCT and your natural abilities to create test beyond cycles? Is it possible to do a couple of cycles with proper PCT and not fuck up your body forever?

I’m in healthcare and see a bunch of old guys thriving on TRT. I always ask them how they are doing on it before I jab their old, saggy, yet lean cheeks. Seems like the benefits outweighs the risks in my opinion. I can’t wait to get old and juice. Covered by Medicare baby.

Read the title as "The pros of taking TONS of drugs" and was worried for a second

Thank you for being my top source for bodybuilding information Dr.Mike

Very honest and very informative.

People need to know the massive difference between doctor h r t compared to blasting.

@adamf386

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Its not even comparable.

So I should take 23 grams first cycle?

@19MacRazy

2 жыл бұрын

Rookie numbers, should bump it up to 25-30 grams at least. ;b

@RenaissancePeriodization

2 жыл бұрын

I usually take as much gear as I have copies of chromosomes. In other words, double that. - Dr. Mike

@19MacRazy

2 жыл бұрын

@@RenaissancePeriodization Huge fan of the gram per chromosomes protocol. Got my genome sequenced, now I'm on 45 g a week. 🤤

Always love it when you guys pull the curtain back on the super secrets and mysteries of the dark arts…now we can all go pro 😬

i really enjoyed this video! more vids like this would be cool

Jordan Peterson stopped with the PEDs, you can see he looks a bit rough now....

@aug_mali6640

2 жыл бұрын

He's cruising bro

Say the line Bart... "Stay natty bros" YAY!!!

I really appreciate this type of talk and would very much appreciate more. As a 55 year old man who takes Reandron 1000 once every 3 months, which does little to nothing, I'd love some in-depth advice on TRT. Keep up the good work guys 👍

From a guy who has never ran a course off any anabolics I love learning about the affects and all the science behind steroids and the knowledge off these guys is grate for training learning grate bits off advice from this channel grate content guys

If I took the kitchen sink, I would still look worse than Jared as a natural. 🤷‍♂️

i find it funny how honest you guys are with actual credible info, then another big pdocaster here with alot of guys are like, oh highest tren i did is 700, and 1.2g of test, when you know in reality theyre in the 5-10g range minimum based on the rapid growth and what not

@arkdude8484

Жыл бұрын

yup so much fucking gear lotta gh lotta insulin at the top open bb levels. very expensive

Loved it lol. Do more of these.

I think it would be good to talk about some of the horror stories and negative sides so people don't think it's all sunshine and rainbows. Great video and love your content.

Is Jared ok? He seemed like he was struggling for air

@Hedgeflexlfz

2 жыл бұрын

drugs do that

I'm a pro, I take 1680 mg a week, pretty much year round. 100 kg BB. 700 test , 840 primo, 140 anavar. 6 iu gh per day. Certainly not genetically gifted.

@Anandfulness

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for being honest.

Hell yeah this stuff is interesting, and they are the things i research on other channels and i love "not the way" your guys input cause of the puns and jokes that i might or not be doing (like the forearms video). But it is always foremost very informative

Great info, love the honesty

This is great info fellas. I’m sure there’s plenty that don’t care about this who follow RP but these videos are cool. I think it’s better to put good info out there so people who are looking into the drugs can make better educated decisions.