Ranking Muscle Building Genetics w/ Dr. Mike Israetel

Dive into the world of muscle-building genetics with Dr. Mike Israetel, in this enlightening discussion. Explore the science behind genetic culture influences on muscle growth, learn to identify strengths and weaknesses, and discover THE TRUTH. This must-watch video offers a deeper understanding of working with your unique culture genetic makeup to achieve your muscle-building goals. Don't forget to like, share, and subscribe for more
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(00:00) Introduction to Race and Bodybuilding
(00:27) Athletic Abilities and Racial Myths in Bodybuilding
(00:59) Racial Differences in Sports Performance and Bodybuilding
(02:08) Comparative Body Structure and Research in Bodybuilding
(03:16) Heat Adaptation and Its Impact on Bodybuilding Aesthetics
(04:14) Muscle Distribution Variations Across Races
(05:39) Skin Thickness Myths and Bodybuilding Realities
(07:05) Evolutionary Aspects of Fat Storage and Racial Differences
(08:22) Lean Physiques and Obesity Rates in Different Races
(09:48) Bodybuilding Challenges: Calf Muscles in West Africans
(12:04) Personal Inspirations and Realistic Goals in Bodybuilding
(17:09) Choosing Role Models and Personal Growth in Bodybuilding

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  • @felicia_716
    @felicia_7168 ай бұрын

    Im a 44 year old black women and guess who inspires me to push harder?! Sam Sulek. Ill never look like him lol nor do I want too but he motivates me to push harder. Im not his target audience.

  • @Ease54

    @Ease54

    8 ай бұрын

    There are WAY too many women who DO want to look like Sam Sulek!

  • @MeditationsWithSam

    @MeditationsWithSam

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Ease54who cares? People have preferences. People can coexist with differing preferences.

  • @thexrealxtobi5361

    @thexrealxtobi5361

    5 ай бұрын

    In all honesty, while listening to Sam his target audience is whoever will listen really humble guy

  • @ivoryas1696

    @ivoryas1696

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Ease54 Are... Are you sure? You haven't heard of girls avoiding the bench so that their "tits won't shrink"?

  • @carlos0180

    @carlos0180

    4 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@MeditationsWithSamThe problem lies with that they wont ever see their desired results resulting in a worsening mental health.

  • @GameNewsPs3
    @GameNewsPs38 ай бұрын

    Dr. Mike looked baked 🍃😂

  • @cerealgye

    @cerealgye

    8 ай бұрын

    Dr. Mike sound like he's been cutting for 16weeks

  • @traaaaan

    @traaaaan

    8 ай бұрын

    Gotta be ripped to casually talk about cockazoids

  • @ricpo8683

    @ricpo8683

    8 ай бұрын

    Dr mike isnt baked hes fried

  • @_baller

    @_baller

    8 ай бұрын

    Idk seems more like he has a massive carb meal and is squashed and mellow

  • @Nerdybdirty

    @Nerdybdirty

    8 ай бұрын

    I was gonna say the same lmao he's sarcastic and all but chilled out in this one

  • @sandmanlol
    @sandmanlol8 ай бұрын

    I'm not fat, im cold adapted

  • @ntwalipat2

    @ntwalipat2

    3 күн бұрын

    Could the longer limbs difference, as explained, also be the reason why some of us are known to be more endowed on average?!😲

  • @russgunter3834
    @russgunter38348 ай бұрын

    I really respect that you both will have this conversation. It’s crazy you have to be so careful, but kudos to you both.

  • @Fillegubben

    @Fillegubben

    8 ай бұрын

    People are typically somewhat fine with it when it’s obvious like black people being dominant in sprinting or basketball, for some reason if it goes further like especially intelligence you could lose your platform fast

  • @russgunter3834

    @russgunter3834

    8 ай бұрын

    @@FillegubbenI disagree. Many on left or weak minded individuals would blow a gasket if you talk about the differences in men and woman. Which are facts. Sure the mental one is dumb. But there are definitely a difference in the races as they talk about. And a much bigger difference with men and women that you can’t talk about.

  • @MajkaSrajka

    @MajkaSrajka

    8 ай бұрын

    Meanwhile Team3dalpha's thumbnails 🤣

  • @Viking_Raven

    @Viking_Raven

    8 ай бұрын

    I find it especially sad how everyone just talks about what is expected to talk about in the way we're supposed to talk about it. We let other people define our interests, opinions and the way we're supposed to talk about certain things. It's a tale as old as humanity, people able to swerve the opinion of the masses. What is acceptable today wasn't before and society will keep evolving with 90% of people mindlessly subscribing to the ideas they're supposed to believe at the moment.

  • @janitor1165

    @janitor1165

    8 ай бұрын

    @@russgunter3834 Really? Even from the lefties, I have not really seen people deny the physical advantage men have thanks to the hormone washes we get during development. I thought it was only the trans stuff that was controversial.

  • @FitwitFrank
    @FitwitFrank8 ай бұрын

    I live this conversation. It brought a clear cut explanation to body types while acknowledging stereotypes speaking about their origins and explaining them in a non offensive way. Great job we need more of these. As a trainer I have conversations like this with others all the time this is so good for awareness

  • @VeteranVandal

    @VeteranVandal

    8 ай бұрын

    Specially the tons of variations part - and observing that steroids make a lot of the physique of top athletes, specially in strength and bodybuilding style of competitions, and that's besides the huge work those people perform to get there (because contemporary sports don't really have a ton of amateurs for the most part). Your genetics can't be hugely changed - or we aren't there technologically. You are likely not a Jordan (a person with a big outlier in hands size relative to body proportions and jumping capacity and athleticism), a Ronnie (a big limbed guy, with relatively shorter torso, but also a big frame to put muscle on) or a Brian Shaw (a really big guy with space in his whole body to put a ton of muscle, a stockier and less lean person that can build a lot of muscle, but likely couldn't really bodybuild). Those guys got the genetics, but they worked a lot to get to live like the insane outliers they are.

  • @angeloramirez1249

    @angeloramirez1249

    8 ай бұрын

    It's not a stereotype.

  • @pierrea3094

    @pierrea3094

    8 ай бұрын

    @@angeloramirez1249it almost certainly is

  • @kaptainplantit

    @kaptainplantit

    8 ай бұрын

    My Page Is about this. I reversed sickle cell trait using these theories. I wasn’t supposed to play basketball past 19 years old because of my frequent hospital visits. After applying these theories I was able to play pro basketball in Spain and also make it to mini camp with the Jacksonville Jaguars

  • @Democratsknowbidensucks

    @Democratsknowbidensucks

    8 ай бұрын

    @@VeteranVandal entire arguement is flawd. iF you took a couple high school football teams and gave them the same gear protocol/ training that ian vallare gave to a teenage chris bumstead, chris wouldnt of won. The amount of early teenagers on gear being trained by a pro is small cant even compare what makes up good genetics when the pros are all on steroids.

  • @MrJaay06
    @MrJaay068 ай бұрын

    Dr Mike is so articulate, interesting discussion man should do more of these!

  • @JonniShreve

    @JonniShreve

    8 ай бұрын

    more coming for sure!

  • @maxjk1143

    @maxjk1143

    8 ай бұрын

    yes, very articulate. unfortunately nothing he says really makes sense. at 4:50 he says a sphere lets you dissipate heat quickly, which is wrong, the sphere has the lowest surface for any given volume, so bad heat dissipation. he already said that in cold climate animals have short limps, they try to become a sphere so they dissipate low heat. at 2:20 he says asians the best cold adapted. at 8:30 he says since blacks are the best heat adapted, they tend to store fat the worst. then at 8:40 he says asians get ripped since they have trouble storing fat.

  • @dreamcrusher112

    @dreamcrusher112

    8 ай бұрын

    @@maxjk1143 It makes sense, you just didn't understand. Cold climate animals do not become spherical, they have short limbs and large torsos to keep bodyheat high and blood close to the heart. He doesn't say Asians struggle, he says that the social pressure to be thin means they start at a lower bf% and therefore seem to get ripped easier, but should've clarified that's social and not genetic.

  • @ashscott6068

    @ashscott6068

    8 ай бұрын

    @@maxjk1143 Umm....a sphere has more exposed surface, when you put it on top of another shape. That's what he meant. A bicep, for example, that looks more spherical, has more exposed surface for its volume than a bicep that conforms more to the skeleton and surrounding muscles. Because proportionally less of its area is sitting next to the skeleton or other muscles. More of it is protruding out away from the body and out into the big wide world. And being most cold adapted, doesn't mean storing most fat. Fat is not the best solution to retaining heat. It's more a last-ditch band-aid, and more to do with storing energy, than retaining heat. A seal isn't superbly cold-adapted because it has more fat. An obese dude has way thicker fat than a seal. The seal is cold-adapted, because of its shape. If it kept the same amount of fat, but that fat was in the shape of a bunch of "bubbly" muscles, it would lose more heat. It doesn't have long arms and legs sticking out, acting like heatsink fins.

  • @matyaskvapil7674

    @matyaskvapil7674

    8 ай бұрын

    @@ashscott6068 Google "Bergmann's rule".

  • @AbdulRaheem-fw7sq
    @AbdulRaheem-fw7sq8 ай бұрын

    This was genuinely one of the most enjoyable conversations I've seen related to bodybuilding

  • @shawnott2519
    @shawnott25198 ай бұрын

    My 2 favorite guys, I’m still a novice in this world but I love both these guys content. Been listening to Dr. Mike all morning then this pops up, gotta love it!

  • @capionthegreat4582
    @capionthegreat45828 ай бұрын

    Now this is an official collab!Two of my favorite fitness educators.

  • @deanmathers4483
    @deanmathers44836 ай бұрын

    Two great characters in this field, always a joy listening to each and especially together.

  • @quachdaivy
    @quachdaivy8 ай бұрын

    The most serious Dr Mike would ever be.

  • @leonro

    @leonro

    8 ай бұрын

    can't blame him, one wrong word and all the butlers go on a strike

  • @sexmansex4776

    @sexmansex4776

    7 ай бұрын

    well this topic is like walking on eggshells

  • @ryanmiller8932
    @ryanmiller89326 ай бұрын

    Damn, this is refreshing man. Talking about real shit and not getting butt hurt

  • @brianrodriguez7883
    @brianrodriguez78838 ай бұрын

    Loved this episode! Great conversation. Hope to see more content and collaborations between you two 🙏🏼💪🏼

  • @mardinimuscle
    @mardinimuscle7 ай бұрын

    This collab made me so happy. Juji has always been such a cool dude. Great video Jonni!

  • @curtharakaly4620
    @curtharakaly46207 ай бұрын

    Damn...Dr. Mikes dry humour and sarcasm is some of the best in the world. Just slips things in there so nonchalant. Like the veins..."yea, there they are (raises eyebrows real quick)." Can't help but laugh and rewind to listen to them a few times. Definitely a good dude to be around and just roast each other I bet.

  • @GG-jn9fx

    @GG-jn9fx

    3 ай бұрын

    @9:01 “he gots some titties and shit” lmaooo idk why but i lost it

  • @jetbond3356
    @jetbond33568 ай бұрын

    One of the best bodybuilding conversations Ive heard, good shit Jonny n Mike

  • @culpritdesign
    @culpritdesign8 ай бұрын

    I really enjoyed this conversation and the open and honest conversation about race and genetics. I understand why it's a sensitive topic, especially since that topic has been used to oppress and insult groups of people. It's nice to see that topic explored in a factual context.

  • @T-SizzleLikeBacon

    @T-SizzleLikeBacon

    8 ай бұрын

    In today's society the left wants you to think all humans are identical, men and women are the same so you can interchange between them depending on mood, races are the same so you can't talk about genetic differences.

  • @cagneybillingsley2165

    @cagneybillingsley2165

    8 ай бұрын

    racial and genetic differences should be acknowledged, and it can be subject to scrutiny and even influence policy adaption, all without the purpose of hate, but the mutual benefit of all the different ethnicities within a region. the key is people have to be objective and mature, the problem is a lot of people are so scared of offending people, they would rather pretend that everyone is exactly the same.

  • @gardenguster5271

    @gardenguster5271

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@cagneybillingsley2165 racial distinctions aren't really real... haplogroup differences are. West Africans and South Africans are EXTREMELY genetically different from one another but they are both "black".

  • @rjharrold2907

    @rjharrold2907

    8 ай бұрын

    @@gardenguster5271 Here is a genuine question because I see everyong using race as the word to describe different I guess you could call us distinctions of humans. Does race actually work for that or should it only be ethnicity because we are called the human race? Or is the human race a falsify and we are the human species?

  • @gardenguster5271

    @gardenguster5271

    8 ай бұрын

    @@rjharrold2907 humans are a species with many subspecies. Every subspecies died out except for our subspecies. This subspecies of human (us) diverged 50,000 years ago from East africa... that's really all that separates us. Race isn't real, haplogroups are however real. Haplogroups are basically the migrational group your ancestors originated from. Multiple haplogroups existed and due to civilization, war, and weather changes most civilizations that didn't geographically isolate are a mixture of haplogroups. For example, Europe had 3 distinct migrational groups that were genetically distinct but because of the natural cycle of civilization alot of these groups interbred and decreased genetic diversity. This can't be said the same for places like africa... where geographical Isolation existed for thousands of years. This is why east Africans are more related to europeans than they are south africans because the European haplogroups migrated later.

  • @rafaelalvarenga8067
    @rafaelalvarenga80678 ай бұрын

    Dude , dr. Mike is so knowledgeable is absolutely amazing .

  • @huyoken7953
    @huyoken79537 ай бұрын

    This attitude is what I love about the bodybuilding community, thank you.

  • @LogicKidroy
    @LogicKidroyАй бұрын

    This was the most informative Muscle related content I’ve ever seen, the fact that it’s Free is almost ridiculous, but very much appreciated.

  • @08bourquem
    @08bourquem7 ай бұрын

    This is real conversations! A celebrations of differences and the appreciation of the different forms of human physiques.

  • @randydunn3085
    @randydunn30858 ай бұрын

    Great open conversation! Wish life could be like that everywhere

  • @danielwood5510
    @danielwood55107 ай бұрын

    I love these video collabs with Dr. Mike, huge fan of you both and the chemistry is great

  • @mosaif_mudawi
    @mosaif_mudawi4 ай бұрын

    First time coming across your channel, and I, must say you're one of the best interviewers in KZread. Great Interview as well.

  • @michaelhaynes5294
    @michaelhaynes52948 ай бұрын

    Love it when you and Mike do content together ❤

  • @spacerider12
    @spacerider128 ай бұрын

    We honestly need more realtalk about subjects like this. super interesting stuff

  • @danielleelizabeth9417
    @danielleelizabeth94173 ай бұрын

    I loved this conversation. Dr. Mike was respectful and as always provided us a plethora of facts. I think the discord between these two is awesome, and I wish more people could have conversations like this and see it for what it is. Also, just as they both attested to. Looking at others physique for inspiration is great but knowing you have your own unique genetic and dispositions and can only become the best version of yourself is the best piece of advice one could gain on this journey to transform yourself

  • @danf8047
    @danf80478 ай бұрын

    that Dr. has my sense of humour and he's easy to listen to, well done both!

  • @JourneymanTorturer
    @JourneymanTorturer7 ай бұрын

    man I love how healthy this interaction is.

  • @timstreitz4700
    @timstreitz47008 ай бұрын

    I’m a white guy. I started lifting because of Rocky/Stallone. But my ultimate physique became Lee Haney 8 time Mr Olympia. Obviously I couldn’t look like Lee, but I had his physique in my head while I trained.

  • @billybobaggins8820

    @billybobaggins8820

    8 ай бұрын

    I have like a weird platz, mentzer, Zane ideal

  • @fatstrategist

    @fatstrategist

    8 ай бұрын

    @@billybobaggins8820 Perfection.

  • @winstonchurchill8491

    @winstonchurchill8491

    8 ай бұрын

    I want to be Leon Edwards

  • @fredfredburger5150

    @fredfredburger5150

    6 ай бұрын

    I understand this. I started lifting because of Arnold but I think I'd choose to look like prime Steve Reeves. No way I could be as lean as him at my age but he's the inspiration.

  • @malikthebrit335

    @malikthebrit335

    4 ай бұрын

    so Samir bannout Type phsiyque?@@billybobaggins8820

  • @markymark8
    @markymark820 күн бұрын

    I'm so glad that Dr Mike clarified that either way you just do your best. I run into way too many guys who neglect parts of their training or even don't train at all because of their 'genetics'.

  • @farneti9604
    @farneti9604Ай бұрын

    Bro, that's legit the best video I've ever seen about bodybuilding. It's totally in a core level.

  • @cromeoid1904
    @cromeoid19048 ай бұрын

    Loved this. Anything to get me more motivated and fuel my next work out.

  • @JonniShreve

    @JonniShreve

    8 ай бұрын

    Awesome! Thank you!

  • @loonatic1071
    @loonatic10716 ай бұрын

    Incredibly tactful and interesting discussion. I barely feel like i learn anything from youtube but i learned a lot from this and left with a better attitude

  • @jbyrne4531
    @jbyrne4531Ай бұрын

    This is easily the most interesting and informative piece of content I have seen in many years. Some of the things you guys touched on have been something I’ve wondered about for a LONG time. Thank you, so interesting.

  • @Mark-AnthonyJ
    @Mark-AnthonyJ8 ай бұрын

    These two dudes are the reason I’m beasting my gains in the gym on my two-a-day routine. Sick results in just 6 months. Update coming soon!

  • @OmeganM
    @OmeganM8 ай бұрын

    sick of not being able to talk about things like this. Everyone gets so defensive about skin color and cannot accept that there are biological differences of all races which is actually cool af to think about how we are all human, yet so different. Loved listening to this. 2-month post comment update: Look at the cute little keyboard warriors trying to one-up one another with their “intellect” and have nothing to do better with their lives. To those who understood the positivity of the original comment, you rock. To the incels who need sunlight and a bit of grass between their fingers, you are a part of the problem. I come back to this post after 2-months and am confused what any of you are confused about? I’m assuming it hurts you to think beyond the usual 1-dimensional thinking you’re accustomed to but do yourself a favor and hop off the internet and find a productive outlet to expand your inability to critically think beyond what you see with your eyes. See you in another 2-months 👍

  • @prestonfisher2632

    @prestonfisher2632

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah, it's like dwarves, elves and the khajit

  • @flareshiftt

    @flareshiftt

    8 ай бұрын

    Probably partially because you allude there are differences between skin colors, but that has almost nothing to do with it. Significant differences were observed between west Africans and south Africans, moreso than between blacks and whites as a whole, for instance. It's probably best to just discuss differences in body compositions overall. Otherwise someone will think 'this is a black trait' and 'this is a white trait' when it is far more specific than that, and we make silly perceived distinctions based on skin color, while they are much more specific than that.

  • @HauptmannGallenstein

    @HauptmannGallenstein

    8 ай бұрын

    Because unfortunately for many there are definitive winners and definitive loosers

  • @kennymendoza1581

    @kennymendoza1581

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@flareshifttExactly. The whole discussion felt like those had by 1940s eugenics. Instead of just talking about different body compositions and advantage/disadvantages. Very pretentious discussion imo.

  • @lo-lifecntral2789

    @lo-lifecntral2789

    8 ай бұрын

    @@prestonfisher2632no it’s not

  • @Anonymous38572
    @Anonymous385728 ай бұрын

    Really cool topic to discuss, I’ve came to the same conclusions myself when analyzing top bodybuilders with different strengths for each race.

  • @misu1g
    @misu1g17 күн бұрын

    Even tho im 7 months late, this was one of the best videos regarding bodybuilding. Mike is so real and harsh about it, i love it.

  • @rustyspygoat4089
    @rustyspygoat40892 ай бұрын

    You guys NAILED this topic. Fantastic video! 🙏👏

  • @poemac24pi
    @poemac24pi8 ай бұрын

    So much information. This is the best. Very well done gentleman.

  • @meanlee105
    @meanlee1058 ай бұрын

    Thank you for being brave enough to have this open anthropological discussion

  • @gttc321

    @gttc321

    5 ай бұрын

    Bro what the fuck is ur comment 😂😂😂😂 Yea so brave man

  • @sjuvanet

    @sjuvanet

    Ай бұрын

    @@gttc321Brother, Dr. Mike is a legit academic. Discussing race differences is REAL RISK for him.

  • @LordVictorHalgaard
    @LordVictorHalgaardАй бұрын

    Nice to see its still possible to actually have this conversation - wouldn’t have called that.

  • @AD-mo5sg
    @AD-mo5sg8 ай бұрын

    This reminds me of the videos I saw from Team 3D Alpha a couple years ago going over genetics around the world. Extremely informative and very interesting stuff

  • @Ruudwardt

    @Ruudwardt

    Ай бұрын

    This guy is hidden gem.

  • @JulioMartinez-be8lx
    @JulioMartinez-be8lx6 ай бұрын

    Wow 🤩…. I’m Puerto Rican ..mixture of three races…Spaniard,African and Native Indians… BUT, this has got to be of the most compelling, interesting and knowledgeable conversation ever in regards to health. You guys should write a book 📕

  • @bleach9tail

    @bleach9tail

    3 ай бұрын

    I noticed the biggest variation in the Latino community .

  • @Momoa786

    @Momoa786

    2 ай бұрын

    True and Native Americans(native american indians as you write) are part of the mongoloid race for the most part..but actually not 100% mongoloid..they are like 65-70% north-east asian(mongoloid) and 30-35% middle eastern farmers (caucasian) so you thechnically a mix of the 3 biggest races

  • @Lskfkksnfdjd

    @Lskfkksnfdjd

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@Momoa786native Americans aren't part middle Eastern farmer, the heck. They're mostly east Asian with some pan-eurasian (specifically a group referred to as ancient north eurasians, basically white people but pan-eurasian is a better term)and yes this is actual science

  • @RedPanda79
    @RedPanda798 ай бұрын

    It was real respectful for a very touchy topic

  • @papadross
    @papadross8 ай бұрын

    This was incredibly informative. Thanks for sharing.

  • @BloodStoneFortress
    @BloodStoneFortress8 ай бұрын

    I always found this topic in bodybuilding exceptionally interesting, unfortunate it goes so untapped. One of my favorite aspects of bodybuilding is just seeing the different shapes and forms the human body can come in. Great video.

  • @vwtdi1579

    @vwtdi1579

    8 ай бұрын

    Race realism is a forbidden topic. You link anything genetic to skill or ability then you're not far from eugenics.

  • @michaelzegler1025
    @michaelzegler10258 ай бұрын

    "Information was Fascinating" Workouts are doing well✌️Thank you men.Both of you are helpful❣️ Work ethics👌

  • @JonniShreve

    @JonniShreve

    8 ай бұрын

    Our pleasure!

  • @beansandsausages
    @beansandsausages8 ай бұрын

    Yo Jonni, love this colab and conversation topic. Really interesting.

  • @davidagbona8869
    @davidagbona88692 ай бұрын

    Seeing Dr Mike so chill and casual is refreshing. But I can use the stair’s though? He couldn’t TOTALLY resist clowning 🤣

  • @beastyfamilia4995
    @beastyfamilia49958 ай бұрын

    Yay! Loved this video, 2 great guys, love it!

  • @joshthompson4129
    @joshthompson41298 ай бұрын

    I would love to see a semi-regular podcast between these two where they go over interesting journal publications.

  • @WiscoKnight0806
    @WiscoKnight08063 ай бұрын

    Came over from Dr Mike's page, probably one of his only female fans, and I must say I loved this discussion. A great example of intelligent and informed conversation versus the kind of racial and sexist crap that ACTUALLY gets you cancelled. Great content guys!

  • @adamb1400
    @adamb14007 ай бұрын

    Love the back and forth banter!

  • @FuPlaayz
    @FuPlaayz8 ай бұрын

    What a good video! Very educational with no bs, thank you lads!

  • @farhanhussain_
    @farhanhussain_7 ай бұрын

    Very informative👍👍👍 Genetics is the most important thing for excelling in bodybuilding. No amount of hard work, discipline, or PEDs can change it. Dr. Mike has said it right that we have our own hills to climb.

  • @xbenxwilsonxhighlights7879

    @xbenxwilsonxhighlights7879

    4 ай бұрын

    Problem is no one actually knows there's genetics and they quit because they think there a friggen genetic scientist.

  • @jankfoots
    @jankfoots4 ай бұрын

    This is elite scientific bodybuilding content. Thank you gentleman both for this collab

  • @umax870

    @umax870

    4 ай бұрын

    That is unscientific and pesudoscience.

  • @LDacic
    @LDacicАй бұрын

    I actually prefer watching Mike as a guest on other people's channels than hosting his own videos 😂 Thanks for the upload, was a fun watch!

  • @Duck_OG
    @Duck_OG7 ай бұрын

    This is an extremely interesting topic that I'm glad you guys covered. I, myself as a Korean, have a really short torso and short limbs. Didn't get blessed with great genetics body wise, but did get blessed with the mental aspect to make the best of what I have.

  • @big_t_dynasty
    @big_t_dynasty8 ай бұрын

    There have been a lot of really dope collabs after this year's O.

  • @eyeseewho77
    @eyeseewho773 ай бұрын

    Amazing video guys. First time at channel and listening to Dr Mike. Great great stuff

  • @morrischristian5021
    @morrischristian50214 ай бұрын

    I could listen to Mike all day.. what a dude

  • @Michael.Miles1
    @Michael.Miles17 ай бұрын

    The mental and verbal gymnastics required and performed in order for this conversation take place are commendable. And as a black man of West African decent I can definitely attest to the truth about us having small calves! ✌🏾✌🏾

  • @channelwhoa66

    @channelwhoa66

    6 ай бұрын

    Well son, let me break it to ya! Many of the differences this dude puts on race are actually due to culture and nutrition rather than race. Although certain features do tend to be pooled along racial lines, there isn’t a hard line. That’s why you WILL get Asians with builds more like a black dude especially as Asia becomes more westernized, or whites with bodies more akin to older generations of Asians with long torsos and short legs! In addition, many stereotypes just not true! Example, the black versus white jumping myth. Reason? We tend to see high jumping blacks in basketball, a household sport ,while whites who jump just as higher….. sometimes higher, tend to be concentrated in volleyball……. Not very household of a sport this we never see them. But they’re there

  • @paulogaspar8295

    @paulogaspar8295

    4 ай бұрын

    @@channelwhoa66 the differences he talked about are real. we have seen them, of course on averages. yes you can find white people that jump higher than any black dude and you can find black dudes with calves bigger than any white dude, but on average you see differences in the numbers.

  • @channelwhoa66

    @channelwhoa66

    4 ай бұрын

    @@paulogaspar8295 TF?! Did I deny that?! I said, that many of those physical differences are due to social circumstances rather than average genetics associated with race. And this dude is doing what scientists should NOT do and is facilitating the dissemination of misinformation. Scientists should be descriptive while caveating that in THIS case, it’s not known whether it’s genetic or social environment!

  • @a.c.slater573

    @a.c.slater573

    Ай бұрын

    @@channelwhoa66social circumstances don’t change skeletal and muscular genetics bro. Oh I’m just gonna eat chicken all day I seem to have grown extra wingspan. Oh I play Minecraft all day and never leave my house hence I have great calves. The races are different just how YHWH made them.

  • @channelwhoa66

    @channelwhoa66

    Ай бұрын

    @@a.c.slater573 Um, yes they do. The average Asian Americans have very different builds than the average person in Asia. Also….. remember how people the world over have gotten taller due to different nutrition. Finally, it’s a known fact that, nutrition affects torso to leg length ratios. Learn something. FOOL

  • @veganmeat4667
    @veganmeat46678 ай бұрын

    I don't know how to explain it but this was such a cozy video.

  • @matthewjohnson2871
    @matthewjohnson28718 ай бұрын

    This is the most seriousness I've ever seen between these two guys. Definitely a very interesting vid though. I understand better now why people look the way they look.

  • @EspressoMuseum
    @EspressoMuseum2 ай бұрын

    Only just started working out this year but my calves have always been big. Doing just one leg day per week has made them HUGE! Now I know why!

  • @righteousiron8216
    @righteousiron82168 ай бұрын

    Very Informative, And Entertaining!! Nice Video 👍💪

  • @omcoffroad1355
    @omcoffroad13558 ай бұрын

    You guys are my inspiration for my journey. The motivation skill technique knowledge is epic! But Jonni did you give Dr.Mike his high protein bar? Oh and need more WAY more of this right here

  • @JonniShreve

    @JonniShreve

    8 ай бұрын

    Haha, don't worry, I didn't forget to give Dr. Mike his high protein bar! I made sure he had his post-workout fuel. And don't worry, we'll bring you more epic content, just like you asked!

  • @omcoffroad1355

    @omcoffroad1355

    8 ай бұрын

    @@JonniShreve 🤣🤣 Man that's epic!! So can't wait to meet you and Dr.Mike in person someday. I'll have to bring you my last jelly donut aye……. But on a real note both of you guys give me motivation and inspiration to be the best me I am iron sharpens iron keep dream chasing

  • @henrykjohn78
    @henrykjohn784 ай бұрын

    I actually love this! Dr mike please make more videos on the genetic differences between races

  • @G31M1
    @G31M14 ай бұрын

    This was so entertaining and refreshing at the same time

  • @MB-gf1yc
    @MB-gf1yc8 ай бұрын

    Super interesting stuff! Love that you’re talking about it on an open forum. So stupid that topics like this risk getting canceled/banned. Nothing racist and about it, just facts

  • @whiskeyneat97
    @whiskeyneat978 ай бұрын

    As someone that is starting their fitness journey at 26. This is a very interesting conversation. Thank you for the great collab!

  • @JonniShreve

    @JonniShreve

    8 ай бұрын

    I'm glad you found the conversation interesting! Best of luck on your fitness journey!

  • @tommy90210_

    @tommy90210_

    8 ай бұрын

    Wow I started at 16

  • @whiskeyneat97

    @whiskeyneat97

    8 ай бұрын

    @@tommy90210_ yeah, I'm a short guy and was a late bloomer. Got bullied in middle and high school by gym bro jocks, so I felt it was never for me.

  • @jackreacher2095

    @jackreacher2095

    8 ай бұрын

    @@whiskeyneat97I'm the opposite . I got bullied for being fat and started training and started manhandling them in the wrestling room and setting Powerlifting records at my school .

  • @whiskeyneat97

    @whiskeyneat97

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jackreacher2095 you were probably taller than 5'0" though. I wasn't manhandling anybody lol.

  • @ericthiede9712
    @ericthiede97125 ай бұрын

    I really appreciate this conversation - back during my undergrad this stuff was part of my education in human biology, anthropology, anatomy and evolution. Its completely ok to talk about this stuff people. Another thumbs up!

  • @rufushughes4331
    @rufushughes43318 ай бұрын

    This was beautiful and HILARIOUS!!

  • @Turboy65
    @Turboy658 ай бұрын

    I just feel blessed that it turns out that my genetics have allowed me to build a pretty good physique with just three years of consistent training, and I'm 58 now. Not looking to go competitive, but with my results at this age, I probably could have had that option when I was younger.

  • @dustingilbert2742
    @dustingilbert27424 ай бұрын

    It is refreshing to hear someone have the courage to talk about this.

  • @joshgrove3189
    @joshgrove31898 ай бұрын

    Let's Go!!! Even Further!!!

  • @ephillb3139
    @ephillb31398 ай бұрын

    Interesting and open conversation. Great content.

  • @unearthfan
    @unearthfan8 ай бұрын

    Loved this video!! We need more with these guys together!

  • @truegrit2011
    @truegrit20118 ай бұрын

    I actually find this subject very fascinating. Anything dealing with genetics is always interesting. However the point he made regarding Asian people being able to get really ripped, I think you also have to factor in the cultural influences that impact that as well. Asians eat very lean in general. It's not to say there aren't any over weight Asian people, but I think their diet in general is conducive to them being lean and culturally that is considered an attractive aesthetic to most Asian cultures, I think. The sumo wrestlers are an exception to that.

  • @leonro

    @leonro

    8 ай бұрын

    I believe that it is very frowned upon for someone to be big in Asian culture, whether we're talking fat or jacked. There, the most socially acceptable look is to be as skinny as you can. If someone participates in a sport it is more widely accepted though (incl. sumo), and of course you will see some changes in attitude over time as especially younger people are exposed to foreigners more easily via the Internet and media.

  • @Gow27657

    @Gow27657

    8 ай бұрын

    I've never seen an Asian person on My 600 Pound Life 😂. There are overweight Asians but never extreme haha

  • @bhopirl4552

    @bhopirl4552

    8 ай бұрын

    but its not just a cultural standard, there must be some genetic component.. Like he mentioned their glute maxs tend to be smaller even if they train just as much.. This is even more prominent in asian women who struggle to grow their glutes the most out of any ethnic group probably ever. I'm asian, im not looking for excuses but im curious as to why these seem to be common trends. Also im not built like the typical asian he described so im especially not looking for excuses for myself. I actually have zero interest in body building and more intrigued by athletics. all my muscle insertions are short and tend to be more bubbly despite being small,, my shin is more achilles than calf.. I think this might be a result of fast twitch bias since i love jumping as high as I can. i agree with Dr Mike that fast twitch is overstated, but there is definitely some effect on appearance based on fiber distribution

  • @lonelylama5222

    @lonelylama5222

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah, in countries like Japan they eat overall much healthier. Smaller portion sizes, less processed foods. We should definitely learn from Japan so we can improve our own health, as obesity is a huge problem here in the west, but not so much in Japan and Singapore.

  • @dathunderman4

    @dathunderman4

    7 ай бұрын

    @@lonelylama5222not Korea tho. We eat a ton of red meat, fried foods, cheese, processed foods, etc. Growing up my mom fed me red meat damn near every meal. Just look at alot of the Korean foods that are popular globally- Korean bbq, Korean corn dog (an American corn dog on steroids), the street food. I couldn’t put on weight if I tried my best (and I have), and it’s not just cuz of youth anymore, as I’m in my nearly 30 now and so many guys my age who used to be skinny growing up are overweight now. Also you see a lot of those Asian mukbangers who eat like a pig and look skinny af. Diet could be a reason, but I think there are may be other factors at play.

  • @xxxmelissatacionxxx
    @xxxmelissatacionxxx8 ай бұрын

    Great conversation! So fansinating!

  • @KGReef
    @KGReef8 ай бұрын

    Good video. Always enjoy these videos with your and dr.Mike

  • @MADIXCULT
    @MADIXCULT8 ай бұрын

    Great collaboration guys 🦾🦾

  • @BrendanCS
    @BrendanCS6 ай бұрын

    “People of heat adapted climates” new politically correct phrasing

  • @jaspernewcombe7502

    @jaspernewcombe7502

    16 күн бұрын

    Doesn't really make alot of sense when you break that down as a sentence either.

  • @SeriouslySwole
    @SeriouslySwole6 ай бұрын

    You two are the best. Thank you

  • @HigkeyRegarded007
    @HigkeyRegarded0078 ай бұрын

    Damn Christmas came early! Love this collaboration. More please. Now.

  • @nicklaird501
    @nicklaird5018 ай бұрын

    Mike and Jonni should have a weekly medical science nonsense show just like this.

  • @libertarianpunk8558

    @libertarianpunk8558

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah they do a really good job bouncing ideas off each other I just subscribed to both of them from this video

  • @coenduda7746

    @coenduda7746

    7 ай бұрын

    Why is it medical nonsense? Mike has PHD pretty much in this field, it baffles me y’all question him SOOOOOO much, without any evidence otherwise, it’s all real medical knowledge and easily tracked through genetics research man, also just not being a fucking idiot and being able to make simple observations of the world around you and the information one is presented with… that also helps.

  • @nicklaird501

    @nicklaird501

    7 ай бұрын

    @@coenduda7746 it’s “nonsense” because it’s comical and whether it’s true or not doesn’t make it the least intellectual part of the conversation when it comes to genetics. Hence. “Medical nonsense”. I love Mike and Jonni’s legit advise. I just appreciated the comical side of them as well.

  • @johnme16
    @johnme164 ай бұрын

    We getting cancelled with this one 🗣️🗣️🗣️

  • @tomcrawford8326

    @tomcrawford8326

    3 ай бұрын

    We bringing up medieval race theory 🗣️🗣️🗣️

  • @MissileGuidance

    @MissileGuidance

    3 ай бұрын

    Man is man woman is woman. Wait what, oh sorry about that, wrong reply section

  • @Ipoop7colors

    @Ipoop7colors

    2 ай бұрын

    Why?

  • @elemental7726

    @elemental7726

    Ай бұрын

    @@tomcrawford8326 *Not theory* these are science backed phenotypes

  • @keagenmccartha7412

    @keagenmccartha7412

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@tomcrawford8326 aw someone must be indian

  • @user-mz9yx3ur1g
    @user-mz9yx3ur1g5 ай бұрын

    Great convo. Fact based and extremely informative. Great stuff fellas

  • @sluggergod
    @sluggergod8 ай бұрын

    These two are the sickest duo broh

  • @djcmurphy
    @djcmurphy8 ай бұрын

    I'd totally watch you two just chilling watching TV or playing games on twitch or something. You two just have that thing where you might not be close but you just get each other. Effortless.

  • @MiguePizar
    @MiguePizar8 ай бұрын

    Genetics plays a role, however, I know tons of asian who were quite lean on their countries, they come to the US, and then become morbid or quite fat, and when they came back to their countries, in a couple of months they are lean again, so definitely the lifestyle and foods that they eat there is the real key. Best

  • @Gainsforlife

    @Gainsforlife

    8 ай бұрын

    not just the foods they eat but also the oils they use to cook food with as well as the oils used in fast food and while eating out. Its usually the cheapest stuff one can find in USA like canola and cottonseed oils

  • @liquidcorundum6568

    @liquidcorundum6568

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Gainsforlife What evidence is there that cottonseed and canola oil promote higher adiposity than other cooking oils?

  • @alvaromartinez5707

    @alvaromartinez5707

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Gainsforlife bro, Delibery or restaurant food here in China is swimming in cheap oil, I am telling you

  • @me_too_thanks5062

    @me_too_thanks5062

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Gainsforlife that makes no difference what so ever in terms of calories

  • @mathilda6763

    @mathilda6763

    8 ай бұрын

    I have never been to America, but from what I've see US-American food seems to be big in portion. If you have a group of people that overall often a little smaller in body size eating suddenly a lot bigger portions of course they'll gain weight.

  • @hectorerquiaga8853
    @hectorerquiaga88538 ай бұрын

    Excellent conversation guys 👍👍👍

  • @EmoEmu
    @EmoEmuАй бұрын

    Love the honest scientific approach.

  • @EmoEmu

    @EmoEmu

    Ай бұрын

    Isn't there also a slight difference in natural test levels between the three racial groups?

  • @graemebland4169
    @graemebland41698 ай бұрын

    Love what you said about taking inspiration from natty vs not. I'm proud to be seeing my results while 100% natty, but I've also been finding myself more curious about getting on gear because the guys I wanna look like are.. It makes sense that, even on gear, you're not going to look exactly like those dudes anyway..

  • @nah4215

    @nah4215

    8 ай бұрын

    Don’t get on gear lmao

  • @ryanrogers8211

    @ryanrogers8211

    8 ай бұрын

    All pros are genetic responders to gear.

  • @jonathanharwood1255

    @jonathanharwood1255

    7 ай бұрын

    Here's the thing. Even if you jump on gear, you'll never look like the people who inspire you to workout. It's not worth it. Stay off it and be natural. Improve your own body and focus on yourself.

  • @hitmonlee6062
    @hitmonlee60627 ай бұрын

    There is just something about a man built like Mike being that scientifically articulate about certain topics. The only influencers I think can hold a candle to that are Jeff Nippard, Derek from Plates n Dates and Sean Nalewalnji. Great video guys.

  • @mrharoun3214
    @mrharoun32144 ай бұрын

    Awesome video super insightful nd inspiring... No longer do i wana obesse about physics's bt rathe focus on getting myself to the best i can look while appreciating others works

  • @nicholasmartinez6043
    @nicholasmartinez60437 ай бұрын

    The best discussion I’ve ever heard about race and bodybuilding

  • @mahri9022
    @mahri90228 ай бұрын

    this is super interesting. with me being black it blew my mind how accurate the things dr mike was saying. the short torso, long limbs, and even the small calves(Unfortunately😢) i can all identify on my body and my dads. as for the low hanging kevin levrone triceps im in the middle. my lateral head is very high but the long head of my tricep is damn near touching my elbow. its an awkward look but i think the lateral head matters alot more for aesthetics from the front view. if your lateral head hangs low it gives that sweep look across your arm when resting like kevin levrone. if your lateral head inserts close to your elbow your lucky af