Frank Gore played in the NFL for 16 seasons after 2 ACL tears while in college. As long as the orthopedic exams check out (complete w/knee & shoulder MRIs) and with two consecutive productive & healthy seasons in the books, Penix's health shouldn't be a concern at all

@younggoose7315

Ай бұрын

What about his two shoulder injuries and Frank gore is the exception not the rule

UW/Seahawks fan here. No way I want this guy to leave the city. No one is talking, but go back to the big games during the 4th quarter, the WHOLE TEAM (EVERYONE!) was in a huddle with him getting motivated by him. This guy is the #1 leader in the clubhouse and on the field. After watching him for two years, there are alot of teams sleeping on him on purpose, they dont want to give up their hand.

@LosAngelesRaider11

Ай бұрын

100 percent correct but won't be making it to you guys. He will be in Silver and Black

@thehebrewyisraeliteinstitu1868

Ай бұрын

@@LosAngelesRaider11 RAAAIIIDDDEEERRRSSS!!!

@andygazi

Ай бұрын

Sadly I think your right. @@LosAngelesRaider11

@dodu8281

Ай бұрын

if the raiders dont take him, that would be my 2nd team for him

@David-sr9uv

Ай бұрын

Geno, Howell, Penix. Keep on grabbing at value players till one hits. Hope it pans out for the hawks.

Rodger is 40 with a torn Aquiles tendon but penix is an issue.

Penix can do whatever tua is doing and has a higher ceiling. The fact jj maccarthy gets more hype is funny

@aaronchapman3

Ай бұрын

I get your point but JJ didn't look like a$$ in the playoffs

@scrotumscratcher2474

Ай бұрын

@@aaronchapman3lol penix had a below average game against the best defense in college football in the finals while just dismantling the Texas defense a game prior. I wouldn’t say he looked like ass. Definitely isn’t a clock manager like JJ is 😂

@StillKeepOnLosing

Ай бұрын

Man... your brain been fried by fake news lolol. No.

@123shoshan

Ай бұрын

Adonai Mitchell is the most underrated player in draft

@raiderj4887

Ай бұрын

​@@aaronchapman3how any teams did he play in the playoffs?

I watched every play of every game and in every game he was the best player..... He played against bo..nex Caleb Williams.... He carried the Washington huskies all year..... He was clutch in the big moments.

Penix is better than Tua ever was. I watchced a few Husky games and his arm talent is second to none.

@crustycritters6148

Ай бұрын

Another rg3 one good season maybe and he’ll be plagued with injuries

@sorrymane

Ай бұрын

@@crustycritters6148the knee injury was 4 years ago and hes only gotten better. of the top 5 qb’s penix had the least time to throw at 2.68 seconds and had the lowest pressure to sack rate averaging 2.5x less likely to take a sack than the next guy in jj. dudes an elite pocket passer.

@garyco766

Ай бұрын

@@sorrymane Exactly, he gets the ball out better than any 1st round QB in this draft, and throws a better deep ball.

@younggoose7315

Ай бұрын

@@sorrymanethe problem is when pressure does come Penix gets rattled easily

@kyloren-cd8dk

Ай бұрын

His arm would be bottom half in the league next year Not in order, just QBs with better arms: Allen Mahomes Love Herbert Richardson Levis Stafford Stroud Lawrence Williams Maye Rodgers Goff Hurts (maybe) Lock (I think DJ is gonna either get injured early or will just get benched early) Carr Darnold

Penix & Michael Pratt are so slept on

@123shoshan

Ай бұрын

Adonai Mitchell is the most underrated player in draft

@joshe955

Ай бұрын

@@123shoshan fam I agree, literally a ceedee lamb lite

@beezyburna

Ай бұрын

who is micheal pratt

@beezyburna

Ай бұрын

@@123shoshanhe gonna be a first round WR that’s not underrated

@BloodySoup74

Ай бұрын

​@@beezyburnaPratt is the Tulane guy I believe. Is Michael his first name?

100% if he wasnt injured he would be highly thought of. But the injuries are always going to effect your stock.

@ahastar1141

Ай бұрын

A penix without injury baggage is a top 3 QB

@dodu8281

Ай бұрын

the oldest and the most injury prone qbs always slide a bit. hendon hooker went to the 3rd round i believe. thats why jj and maye will probably go before them (him and nix). but i wont have any issue having bo nix to the broncos and penix to the raiders. i mean need to do it now because there is a drop off after that... the 7th qb probably will go day 3. and next year, it doesnt seem it will be a rich qb class.

@ahastar1141

Ай бұрын

@@dodu8281 I think the Vikings could be a sneaky place for Penix. They have good left and right tackles, they need a more mature QB to run their offense who can stand in the pocket, and want a QB who can attack down field. They could also possibly grab him at 11 and not have to spend 3 firsts trading up. Though with the raiders and broncos trying to trade up, they may have to a little. My guess though is if the giants don’t take a QB no one trades up, but if the giants do, teams will be in a frenzy for nix and penix

@JavierGarcia-hd7xm

Ай бұрын

But Cousin is perfectly healthy?

If Al Davis were alive, he'd pick Penix in the first round. Truer words were never spoken, Lombo.

@christophertolbert4275

Ай бұрын

Hopefully they do . Raiders !!!!

Penix isn't gonna bust. Dude can throw from pocket. Gets first downs and has a great arm with touch. He can run but that is the last option.

There's a video out there where someone flipped his footage to look like a right handed qb and you can really see how special his arm talent really is

@mramechi300

Ай бұрын

Very good point. Need to do an experimental video myself.

Penix has by FAR the best arm in the draft (accuracy, velocity, and strength) and it's not even close. He needs some work on footwork and vision, but he's the best pure arm easily in the draft. Lot of times a QB just has strength, but Penix has all 3 categories. He's also very fast and can scramble very well, UW just never had him do it (partly because he had the best WR group in the nation).

Oh no, I liked Penix before Lombardi put his stamp of approval on him. I must be wrong.

I've seen him on Pro-day and watched some film on him and can't shake the feeling that the injury concerns maybe because he hasn't fully grown into his body despite being 23-24. Might be the baby face, but a year of sitting behind a QB like Darnold and developing his body athletically with time and introduced slowly, I think he blooms into a great QB

Don't be surprised if he's a Bronco, Raider or Viking.

@charlieadams9318

Ай бұрын

As a Viking fan i would be so happy if we could keep both 1st rounders and land penix.

@999triple4

Ай бұрын

Raiders draft this guy low risk high reward!

@ahmadsalaah9686

Ай бұрын

It would break my heart if he becomes a donkey

@elscruffomcscruffy8371

Ай бұрын

​@charlieadams9318 how so? Are you hoping he falls into 2nd round?

@charlieadams9318

Ай бұрын

@@elscruffomcscruffy8371 no, we would use either the 11th or 23rd overall pick on him. Id rather take penix and draft another need with the other 1st round pick instead of trading both 1sts this year and possibly the 1st next year to move up and take Drake Maye or somone like that...but who knows how many of these kids will pan out in the NFL.

"HOW DO YOU KNOW" 😂

@lucasc8776

Ай бұрын

How do you know, mister 3 times super bowl champ GM???"

Penix has a 2 step draw that creates an option to pull left when the route goes right. If the defense counters on the zone pressure read the he can then drop a 12 scheme double advance forward motion. You can’t teach that.

I feel like the top 4 picks were already predetermined with Caleb, Daniel’s, Maye and MHJ. So it’s really just a matter of if a team that desperately needs a QB at 5 or a team that desperately needs a QB traded up to 5.

Really want my Vikings to snatch his ass up at pick 11! He’s is a warrior

Raiders baby 🙏☠️🏴‍☠️☠️🏴‍☠️☠️🏴‍☠️

Funny how all the opinions changed just because the falcons drafted him

If you want to watch Penix throw, there is a video where it shows him throwing right handed and it’s really eye opening how we view left handed throwers.

i always said he has a beautiful throw that ball looks amazing the thing is can his legs keep up

Penix would be a top 5 qb if there were no other qbs in this class. Its not that hard people!

@stevenkidd6761

Ай бұрын

So simply stated 👏

I want him to go to Minnesota… it’s the healthiest situation for him… you have a top three receiver, a top five tight end and a solid #2 receiver… also their coach is good at getting the best out of their offensive players

@ahastar1141

Ай бұрын

Not to mention MN has 2 good tackles, so they could accommodate a lefty QB

@osamabedunkin2323

Ай бұрын

No. His aim and reads are not good enough. I’d rather trade up to three and get Maye. Mocks have Commanders taking Daniels, so Maye should be there. Maye needs development, but the Vikings are much better for the O-line than NC was for him. Penix is too much of a risk for the Vikings.

@ahastar1141

Ай бұрын

@@osamabedunkin2323 the giants may take maye if he falls to them to replace jones. Maye is a project qb with possible upside and plenty of risk in the accuracy department. He’s also coming off a down year. Reality is most of these QBs this year are much closer than it appears, but the Vikings not having to trade next years first would be big. JJ and maye really need to sit a year where Penix might be ready to go half way through the year and if darnold sucks out the gate, the Vikings could put him in.

@rayontita1912

Ай бұрын

@@osamabedunkin2323 Based on what? Every evaluator praises Penix's processing and his accuracy, especially down the field. It's one of his biggest strengths. If you're worried about accuracy, Maye is the funniest choice you could make given his inconsistency. That could get fixed, of course, but he is a high projected pick because of potential more than anything else.

@osamabedunkin2323

Ай бұрын

@@ahastar1141 Maye won’t drop to the Giants pick. Either the Vikings or Raiders are trading up to #3 for either Daniels or Maye, whoever is left after the Commanders pick. The Patriots HC has basically said in the press conference that they are ready to trade the pick. The Giants will go either with O-line, or WR. I don’t think the Giants can go QB whilst still paying Jones big time money. Maye fits better with the Vikings scheme than Penix. No reason for the Vikings to have 2 first rounders this year if they weren’t going to trade up. If you saw the McAfee clip with KOC, it was basically a yes when asked about trading up.

I’m a Commanders fan. Don’t miss on Penix. Most ready play qb in this draft.

Inconsistent accuracy is obvious to anyone who dives in past the highlight videos. Throwing motion was build around his right acl tears, throws entirely from the shoulder and will always have inconsistencies if that continues

Raiders makes so much sense cause if he does get injured you still have Minshew, but if he doesn't you have a talent that can compete with mahomes, and he'll have Davontae to throw to

2 ACL's and still projected as a top 20 pick, with legit athletic measurements, that should tell you how good he is

Theyre acting like he’s a RB it WR with multiple ACL tears he’s a QB the ACL is only needed to plant and drive everything else is cherries on top.

Yes he could. Next question!

Mike lombardi looks like judd from purple daily. Doppelganger status for sure.

@1175drh

Ай бұрын

Purple Daily is my favorite show as a Viking Fan!!

@anthonyleydens

Ай бұрын

@1175drh me too purple ftw is super close though. Judd is that guy.

If he never twice tore his right ACL, yes. Although he still has an outstanding arm, his delivery changed somewhat. Watch his tape from pre-injury Indiana vs. today. He puts a lot of torque on that shoulder now and favors that knee. When there is any clutter around him, he protects that plant leg and throws off his back foot a lot. He cuts his dropbacks short. He overcomes it at the collegiate level because his arm is so strong, but the NFL is a different league. Time will wear on his shoulder due to this. Cutting drops short and at times throwing late will lead to interceptions. He cant just throw deep all the tome to wide open receivers in the NFL.

I think injuries will be a factor but they'll mostly likely be overlooked cuz team still believe he's an asset

Penix plays like Watson just left handed

Hes my favorite..... really good an overlooked

Best pocket QB prospect vs. NFL expectations on film, not even close. Everyone else just "esthetically looks" or "sounds" better. None performed better.

Okay the Penix injury concerns are valid but think of it this way when considering the position of QB. Do you think Cincinnati Bengals regret drafting Joe Burrow #1 overall only to suffer season ending knee & wrist injuries? IMO absolutely not!

I just dont understand the people hyping jj over penix. I think jj is one of those QBs like tebow who were good in college but his game wont translate well to the League. Penix has the tools to be an nfl QB. Some of the throws he made in the playoffs were amazing.

Ryan grubb to Seattle if Seahawks pass on him even with his coordinator who has intel on him will say a lot so

I don't see the Seahawks hiring the former Husky OC without the desire of drafting Penix. Or, they desire to have a more downfield attack featuring DK or both. The aquisition of Laviska Shenault Jr might make Locket tradable? I don't see the 'Hawks carrying two high WR contracts.

Penix has 2 factors keeping him from being super high. If he was a year younger and just had this good of a season and the other is yeah the injuries

No. Dude has busted mechanics that won’t last beyond his rookie deal. He doesn’t set his feet, he throws routine passes off his back foot, and he forces balls into traffic.

@SenorCoupon

Ай бұрын

On top of poor processing, a lack of touch, general inaccuracy (due to abysmal footwork)... I swear, people say "arm talent" and what they mean is "arm strength". Yes, Penix throws hard. But he doesn't throw accurately, with touch, with anticipation, he didn't show the ability to get through his progression within the timing of the play, and was endlessly bailed out by throwing up 50/50 balls to Odunze.

@moparcrashdummy

24 күн бұрын

@@SenorCouponwtf was you watching 😂😂

I watched Penix Jr play in prime time games and come up big until he took that nasty hit in the CFP before the championship. For both it depends who drafts them & whether or not they have to play immediately. Penix Jr to any team he is not expected to be the starter this year would be the right call. Trading up for JJ is the wrong call.

He'll also be a 24 year old rookie, that probably drops his draft stock along with the injury history.

A left handed Raider QB, who would of thought. Snake would approve.

Whether or not GMs think he's healthy or not, someone will draft him because of his upside. Whether or not that will be in the 1st round idk, but he is most definitely a first round talent barring injuries.

I don’t care what anyone says. I watched him all year. He is the best quarterback in this draft my Raiders please listen to me and go get him.

HE IS A DAWG .. CALLED IT WITH STROUD IM CALLING IT WITH THIS ONE IM TELLING YOU

Would love for him to replace Tua. Would also like if the Dolphins took a WR at 21.

Yes he's an absolute stud. Should have been heisman

Where are Metts Mocks

100%

Lombardi knows ball, Penix has the best deep ball in this class

@rlh5870

Ай бұрын

Number 0 from Michigan agrees as he returned that interception 70 yards

@joshe955

Ай бұрын

all QBs throw picks im not moved 😂

@jarrettchristensen_music

Ай бұрын

@@rlh5870 that was on 4th down and 19

Future raider

@123shoshan

Ай бұрын

Adonai Mitchell is the most underrated player in draft

@Bman32x

Ай бұрын

Raiders or Seahawks I’m keeping my fingers crossed for Penix

@kaneisamenace

Ай бұрын

Penix and Davante 👀

Have a boatload of money invested in Penix. That is how confident I am in his ability and health. Husky fan here and we watch his games over and over. Put him on the team with his old OC and lookout.

@oak8728

Ай бұрын

Two issues one: his injury issues and two: he can’t handle pressure. The latter can be hopefully trained but the former is set in stone.

@garyco766

Ай бұрын

@@oak8728 Can't handle pressure? He had the best sack ration of any QB in the draft and rarely runs the ball... which means he's getting rid of it with efficiency. That my friend, is handling pressure.

@oak8728

Ай бұрын

@@garyco766 watch the pac12 championship game and the championship game again

@schmidty2117

Ай бұрын

He had the best offensive line in the country, along with 3 future nfl recievera ​@@garyco766

If Penix doesn’t get picked in the first round.. does Jerry jones throw a haymacker and draft him 👀.. I’ve seen him do much more stupid things Lame and Penix with 50m available and they let Dak walk after the season Crazy things have happened

I'm farmyard certain someone is taking him in round 1

(Again, aside from injury) To answer the question is this guy CLEARS Wilson, Trubisky, Pickett, etc.. coming out of the draft and these guys went top picks. Makes you think how dumb some GMs can be sometimes.

This man is the best pure passing, with agility and yall keep dismissing him. Pure clownery.

I want him to stay in Seattle and reunite wirh Grubb with the Hawks

Been saying it for a month im not sold on any qb in this class I think it’s a very weak qb class just my opinion hope these kids prove me wrong

Penix has such an awkward looking release when he throws, or maybe it’s just me cause I never see it talked about

@Stinkinbadgez

Ай бұрын

PLEASE tell me you would not change his delivery.

How’s that Deshawn Watson thing working out?

I hope the giants take him in 1st round and have him sit for 1 year behind Jones. Hes gonna die if he gets put behind their current oline lol

People are just letting Brock Bowers walk by and it's sad as hell

@THEREALDAMNSAM

Ай бұрын

Facts 💪🏾 💯

Pac 12 quarterbacks are all over rated because the Pac 12 had the worse passing defenses in the country. The highest rated was Oregon in the 50’s. When Penix came up against a good pass defense in Michigan he collapsed. He never showed the same potential against Big 10 defenses at Indiana.

Pats will trade with the Vikings. They’ll take a tackle with the 11th pick and Penix with the 23rd pick. I would have said the raiders but they really want Daniels and if they can’t get him they’ll probably go all in on defense.

Caleb Jayden Penix He got a shot to be to be great

Injuries matter.

Not a fan of the team necessarily but id like to see Penix end up in Minnesota cause i think that would give him the best chance to succed of the teams that will be drafting a QB this year. But it seems most belive the Vikings are gonna trade up for JJ McCarthy.

@garyco766

Ай бұрын

What about Denver? They have Drew Breese's old HC and a top10 O-line. And they came on strong at the end of last season. Oh, and they DESPERATELY need a QB. Seems like a solid landing spot.

@thexirvrj2442

Ай бұрын

@@garyco766 they are in the worst division to try and be successful. And I don't see Penix as a fit for Sean Payton and his offense. I see him wanting with Bo Nix or McCarthy

Yes he’s the best QB in the draft. Look back in 5 will tell you

Penix to Tampa LFG!!!!

He will be the best qb

Vikings should keep their picks and pick him at 23

@christophertolbert4275

Ай бұрын

Wake up . He’s not getting past raiders

@martin9410

Ай бұрын

Giants may take him at the 6th pick.

4.42 not 4.5

Remember when this show was awesome?

Giants should trade back a couple spots and take this guy (and sit him for one year behind DJ).

@martin9410

Ай бұрын

someone may trade with the Chargers at 5 for a QB

Lombardi aka the Raider hater FTP

This has cowboys written all over it

Im down for a patriots trade down and draft penix.

I doubt he'd be top5, he's still older for a QB which could speak to potential and ceiling, he's also a left handed QB which means schematically you are flipping the offense for your WR plays and some guys aren't as adept or used to starting routes on the other side of the field. I think without the injuries he'd for sure be a top 15 pick.

I think the Raiders might get him in Round 2

Or Bo nix?

Viking!!

@martin9410

Ай бұрын

Giants might take him at 6th or someone else may trade with the Chargers for the 5th pick.

Please do not bring Lombardi back on show. The active GMs are always better.

@howdareyouexist

Ай бұрын

since you said please you will get double the lombardi going forward

3rd down ints and I worry bout penix hitting the lay ups consistently

3 of the first 6 QBs taken will be busts or weak backup QBs. 1 might end up a top 5 QB in the league eventually.

@ahastar1141

Ай бұрын

Statistically if this ended up being as good as the best draft class of QBs ever, 1 would be a star, 2 would be long term starters, and 3 would be busts, or low upside back ups

Somebody is paying Mike to be on this show and it's not the show

Injuries from 3 seasons ago smh

Give him a five year guaranteed contract. Baaaahahahahahohohohohehehehe.

I just feel bad for the team that drafts the hot garbage that is Caleb Williams!

I been saying I’d take penix for over a year. Worrying about injuries is fair … but if you give me 2 straight healthy seasons I’m fine. His injuries were because he was playing with one of the worst lines in the country

Dolphins fans? What y’all think? Should we? No?

He’s a top 3 QB in this draft class

Penix should be a top 5 pick

KZread, please fix the bots. The majority of the comments at this point are bots.

@JamesWoodring-mu2iz

Ай бұрын

no they are real common sense sports fans that see a bust gtf outta here

dan marnio penix comp

Penix is the #2 qb in the draft imo. Barring injury, I’m actually more confident about him becoming a really good QB than anyone else in this draft, including Williams

@godawgs123

Ай бұрын

As a Washington fan…. They were starting to make me believe I’m crazy for believing this.

@calebsmith6118

Ай бұрын

@@godawgs123yea i'm a Michigan fan, but people ranking McCarthy ahead of Penix are crazy. And that's not a knock on JJ, but Penix is the most ready of any of these guys to step in and start, whereas I think JJ still needs at least a year or 2 to get there. I understand Caleb at 1 since his upside is through the roof, and I think there's a debate between Daniels and Penix, but people ranking Maye, McCarthy, or Nix (!!) ahead of him just doesn't make sense to me. But every year people overthink the QB position in the draft so I guess I shouldn't be surprised

Penix is the 2nd best QB behind Jayden Daniels