"Michael Penix Will Be Drafted Outside The Top 25" - Dan Orlovsky | Pat McAfee Reacts
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Dan ran a 4.5 40 out of the back of an endzone
@ald7248
Ай бұрын
Straight line tests don't matter. Rapid changes in direction will bring him more knee injuries.
@6Texasboi
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
Dan was feisty today
Dan is more like Mad Mel every day 😂
Connor going “OHHH” is so funny at 1:05
Can the giants return Daniel Jones to college for a first rounder?
@samuelvis04
2 ай бұрын
Nah keep him I’d rather the giants not get good again
@VidaBlue317
2 ай бұрын
NO! That violates several NFL bylaws.
@chadwickerman
2 ай бұрын
Return him to his mother's womb. He's not fully baked yet.
@SalientSmiles
Ай бұрын
😆
@Clwcch
Ай бұрын
Kinda like the 49ers taking Trey Lance #3 then getting a what 7th round pick from Dallas, Giants dumb pick getting Jones at #6 ....and better yet paying him like 43 mil. a year!
He’s the best pure passer in this draft!! I’m not saying that makes him the best prospect but it’s still a fact.
Damn its like Penix ran out the back of the endzone😂
@dylankuhns5287
Ай бұрын
This comment should be higher up than it is lol
If you're a quarterback, you don't want to go early.
@ernestp.worrell8871
2 ай бұрын
Every QB in the draft wants to go number one
@joejordan5424
2 ай бұрын
Your pick determines your pay for the next few years, so yeah, you want a higher pick lol but there are benefits going to a better team obviously
@jaylen6760
2 ай бұрын
@@ernestp.worrell8871yea Bryce young is having such a great time with that right
@PapiPanda420
2 ай бұрын
@@jaylen6760probably not as much as cj stroud, gets the pay and the good team/franchise
@user-ht9mh4cm3f
2 ай бұрын
did a bunch of QBs tell you this?
Penix is going to be a good pro. Teams are gonna regret passing on him.
0-16 qb evaluating qbs is hilarious 😂
@Boxscot49
2 ай бұрын
0 iq comment
@JordTheeNord
2 ай бұрын
Being a good qb is not a requirement to assess other qbs. For example JT Osullivan was a career backup and I like his breakdowns on The QB School youtube channel.
@nhd6128
2 ай бұрын
3-23 career record.. the main QB of an 0-16 and a 1-15 team 😂 Dan O has no business on TV. His analysis is equal to his career W/L record.
@candelariovalenzuela6528
2 ай бұрын
He was a QB??? 😂😂
@sebastianm.2901
2 ай бұрын
Almost every coach sucked at football enough to become a coach and not a top player anyone would remember, to analyze and make that info make sense to casuals is a skill on in itself. Most scouts, GMs and board members of the teams also never played at all.
If the QB ran out the back of the end zone, automatic #1
crazy how much the game has changed bc in a vacuum he is the best passer in this class
@beezyburna
2 ай бұрын
he’s the best qb by far not sure what scouts are looking at, cooked a top 5 texas defense like clockwork
@Rowsy91
2 ай бұрын
Mind is more important than anything for a qb You win the 1st overall slot in the film/interview room. Or at least should
@MarvelMadness2003
Ай бұрын
@@Rowsy91wrong. CJ stroud had one of the worst mental test in combine history yet went #2 and took his team to the playoffs.
@Rowsy91
Ай бұрын
@@MarvelMadness2003 watch the games he breaks the game down well and quickly. We will see how he adjusts as defenses adjust to him but from what I’ve seen his mind is just fine, at least football wise
@seanwhitehouse2274
Ай бұрын
@@MarvelMadness2003 like Rowsy91 said, there is a huge difference between regular IQ and football smarts. Dan Marino could barely read and write and he bacame one of the greatest qbs of all time!
Never forget. Michael is a Hoosier. He stretched the penix against penn st. An iconic IU memory.
Dan's insight is as good as his playing ability was.... absolutely turrible
@pipe4x69
Ай бұрын
Yea, he's a clown. This didn't age well
I think penix will be solid
@jeffkidd1187
2 ай бұрын
So does Dan he just saying what teams will most likely think about Penix which is true
@__G___
2 ай бұрын
Bust Penix
@davidc2838
Ай бұрын
Depends on the Team he goes to and if he can sit for a year behind an experienced pro.Usually helpful to stay upright and learn your first year in the league.
Tua had 2 major injuries in college, hip/knee
Tua was drafted 5th overall with a blown up hip…
@bryanhartline1696
2 ай бұрын
And it was a mistake
@Ivypoison23
2 ай бұрын
@@bryanhartline1696most QBs drafted are a mistake. Since QBs are so valuable, people overpick for them. Get a guy like purdy or Lamar and get them late and develop them
@dougmcgill9294
2 ай бұрын
This guys history is way worse, look into it
@ebowden1168
2 ай бұрын
Yeah over Justin Herbert, absolute bot move
@calebhuger5677
Ай бұрын
That's only 1 injury. Try 4 injuries all worse than Tua's.
I’m gonna pay him to throw not to run.. yeah just like you were paid not to step out of bounds 😂
4.5 speed doesn't make a difference?? Orlovsky shows he is just sports talk entertainment - not analysis.
@calebhuger5677
Ай бұрын
If he's not a running QB why would how fast he runs matter? How many reps on the bench press did the best kicker have? It doesn't matter because he's not using his arms.
@MultiWWill
Ай бұрын
@@calebhuger5677Respectfully disagree. At the NFL level you have to be multi dimensional. Escaping pass rushers and running for a few first downs to give defenses another wrinkle to think about is a must have if you are seeking an elite QB. If you are seeking a good QB, you can lower the requirements to 'just good at pocket passing.'
@calebhuger5677
Ай бұрын
@MultiWWill you're absolutely right but the best qb ever to play had one of the worst 40 times ever. And the difference between a straight line with no defenders and scrambling away in the NFL to extend a play is huge. And he couldn't successfully scramble in college.
@MultiWWill
Ай бұрын
@@calebhuger5677Tom Brady is an all timer. I'm definitely generalizing here, but I think most good pocket passers are more like Kirk Cousins. I don't know if this modern NFL data science football era that prioritizes a rotation of pass rushers would birth out another pure pocket passer with incredible grit and intangibles (not to mention the 2000s Pats D) like Tom Brady. I think you've got to be able to move effectively and punish a defense sometimes with your feet. We are probably going to agree to disagree on this one.
@Jrm-xs9qi
Ай бұрын
@@MultiWWillyeah and that’s why penix had 4 career ending injuries trying to get out of the pocket
McCarthy going over Penix is nuts
Tone Diggz feelin skinny
100% garuntee he goes to a good team and goes off
Dan Orlovsky is NOT a scout. Not trying to hate or discredit, but I think people need to remember there is a major difference between former player color analyst and people from the draft/scouting world.
@theonlydjtopcat
Ай бұрын
He was a shi**y NFL QB too. It's like listening to a white JeMarcus Russell lol
@seanwhitehouse2274
Ай бұрын
@BoomorBust, do you really think that idiots like mel kiper jr are better at judging talent than someone who played for years in the nfl? kiper jr is literally some idiot they put on tv because hes opinionated, he has no real credibility to judge professional athletes.
@kevineiford2153
Ай бұрын
But he's just talking injury history
Dan just cares about quarterbacks that step out of the back of the end zone on their own…..ooooooohhhhhhh
Dan talks like he has 3 superbowls
@derrickshair
Ай бұрын
😂
@jerseyraider9618
Ай бұрын
It’s his job to talk football. you would rather him just say nice things about every player? Soft generation
@sprayer97
Ай бұрын
i mean he has probably watched like atleast 4-5 so....
@gerardangelo7975
Ай бұрын
@@jerseyraider9618 I'm older than you buddy. Dan's not the guy who should be judging talent because he's ungood
@chrismichael1547
Ай бұрын
@@gerardangelo7975 Terrible argument as most talent scouts in ALL sports didn't play at a high level...his experience and time in the NFL serve him well. I give him a lot of credit for his M.Stafford takes as one of the most talented QBs that was buried in Detroit. Stafford took a Rams team to a SB win year one, and last year carried a BAD and STRIPPED roster to the playoffs. Perhaps no other QB gets that team to the SB. Certainly noone other than Mahomes.
Dan 🤝 Being wrong as possible
Minnesota can draft him at 11 without trading away any picks.
@Rowsy91
2 ай бұрын
Hopefully not . I don’t see him being a high end qb at the nfl level I trust O connoll he’s a sharp offensive mind so he better get the qb right I honestly don’t love this draft class I think it’ll produce maybe 1 real franchise guy. Hopefully I’m wrong or Vikes happen to land that guy
@IamJdTrent
Ай бұрын
@@Rowsy91 We agree that KOC is legit. I have faith in whoever he chooses...Drake Maye is who I'd like,and I expect them to trade up for him but we'll see.
Dan is talking CRAZY
Somebody gotta tell Dan he wasn’t good enough to be talking the way he do 😂
@codycornell2212
Ай бұрын
Educate yourself
@Hank_Amarillo
Ай бұрын
@@codycornell2212 3rd string bench warmer
@calebhoffman6368
Ай бұрын
If you make it to the nfl you 100% have a right to talk however you want. You shouldn’t even be talking about Dan unless you’ve made the nfl.
@user-qk4vl8lj4r
Ай бұрын
@@calebhoffman6368 I’m Jerry rice bro
@chrismichael1547
Ай бұрын
They gave E.Acho his own show - dude was a SCRUB and only played a couple of seasons...what do you want - most bigtime players don't wanna do this.
I know Orlovsky is kinda a goofball but hes right that a 40 yard time alone doesn't really matter for a QB
@christophertolbert4275
2 ай бұрын
Because he’s not a running qb. If he was like Richardson it would matter more
@akasilkyslim
2 ай бұрын
Yeah but the point was everyone been saying Penix has 0 athleticism and can't run. But then ran and jumped out the room yesterday. That's why his 40 is getting talkd about so much
@KamuiCage
2 ай бұрын
If he ran a bad 40 time they would all hold it against him
@llkla4507
2 ай бұрын
@@pirkkalawhat everyone was sayin that 😂
@jognfong8557
2 ай бұрын
he said it best "i'm paying him to throw, not run" 😆 it's true, if i could pay someone 10 mil to run, why would i pay 40 mil
Wasn’t Joe burrow hurt in college I bet Cincinnati don’t regret it
@nateacosta1939
Ай бұрын
Burrow was 10x the better college QB and let's not forget he's already had major injuries in his relatively short pro career so far
Penix is the closet to Stroud stylistically in this draft. And he went two.
@Rowsy91
2 ай бұрын
Eh Stroud dominated the best teams he played in college Pennix didn’t . He’s got a nice deep ball but I wasn’t blown away watching him.
I think since teams can move on from quarterbacks, it lowers the risk to draft him. I think he is worth the risk if the team has the line and running game to protect him.
Penix could be a Lamar situation where he slips and team trades back into the bottom of the 1st for him to get that 5th year option.
says the guy who thinks Mac Jones could play as well as Purdy
Orslobsky hating on 40 times is wild. It shows the guy can move if needed. Some QBs don’t have that at all. It’s obviously a skill that matters. Remember when he talks about QBing that this is the guy who ran out the back of his own endzone as a NFL QB💀
@tjrose9830
Ай бұрын
Well yeah, you remember anyone on that lions Oline back then? That lions team in general was probably one of the worst rosters in nfl history.
I think the good 40 time is a sign that the knees are good and fully healthy
@dougmcgill9294
2 ай бұрын
For today
@MeLoNHeAd00
2 ай бұрын
Tom Brady
@calebhuger5677
Ай бұрын
Woah he ran straight for 40 yards with no contact.
Penix being compared to Carson Palmer is laughable
He’s not dropping past Seattle at 16 and he probably goes earlier than that.
Speaking of running I bet Penix has the mental awareness to not run out the back of the end zone.
No chance Seahawks draft Penix at 16, especially when our Defence needs so much work.
I think Penix is the most accurate passer in this class. He has a low likelihood of being a bust.
In one season penix will surpass orlovskys career stats lol
Dan came off like a prick today
@__G___
2 ай бұрын
You gonna cry?
@x_factor784daog
2 ай бұрын
@@__G___ He's gunna cry cuz Dan came off as a prick??
@davidc2838
Ай бұрын
Pretty much his M.O.
This basically guarantees he’s a top 20 pick
If he gets passed my Raiders at 13 you have possibly SEA, LA, MIA, DAL all could take him no way I think he gets to round 2
@2piecebiscuit880
2 ай бұрын
If the cowboys pick a QB I’m the first round I’m done watching football.
@R8erRay510
2 ай бұрын
@2piecebiscuit880 if Penix is there at their pick they'll be thinking about it for sure ownership & the fan base have lost faith in Dak it makes a ton of sense
@2piecebiscuit880
2 ай бұрын
There is so many other holes on that roster if they pick a QB in the 1st round I’m done. I like penix but I think there is no way the cowboys get him.
@angelcanez4426
2 ай бұрын
Raider fan here I want the raiders to draft him but I don't want to use our first round pick on him. I hope he drops to the raiders in the second round
@jeffkidd1187
2 ай бұрын
Everyone you mentioned has a good to very good QB and alot of wholes defensively and at O line -Dal for example has no HB, there Safeties play LB, below average DT, and average receivers outside of Ceedee
Teams are paying old QBs with major injuries $100 million but they won’t give Penix a shot with a rookie contract? I would rather have Penix than Rodgers or Cousins idk
Considering the top 6 talked about QBs are Caleb, Maye, Jayden, JJ, Penix, and Bo Nix and thers like 8 teams that need a QB in the top 15 picks lol
@davidrobinson3154
2 ай бұрын
8? You mean 5? A couple that might want to plan ahead (Titans, Jets, Giants), but not that need one necessarily
Orlovsky's takes are so hard to listen to
@MikeP_
2 ай бұрын
I can't find much wrong with this take, the injury history is scary and should be considered when drafting Penix. He looks good now and the speed is encouraging, but his history is what it is. Orlovski acknowledged that Penix is highly talented.
@Hazzo88
Ай бұрын
@@MikeP_ Dont bother, OP is a consensus thinker. Move along.
Older for a QB prospect, injury history, and a lefty. I don't see him in the top 20, but I do think some team might come up to the bottom of the 1st round for that 5th year option. He'd also be great insurance for Tua
Who does Dan blow to have a job judging talent
Dude is going to be a steal for somebody
Of course it matters he ran a that's ridiculous to just dismiss it. It doesn't mean he's going to suddenly be a number one overall pick but damn it shows some great athleticism
Ya...you remember JOSH ROSEN? LOL!
This draft is going to surprise everyone I hope
Injuries are apart of the game, I never wish that on anyone. Yes MPJ has an injury history but it can happen to anyone even in the NFL or at any level. Not taking bra because of that makes sense but at the same time he’s a great talent.
100% right
How many times are we gonna see teams use a 1st rounder on a backup QB?
My boy Danny Dumps
Penicillin is going in the top 14 for sure.
Every year experts are wrong about QBs in the draft.
That's why Dan doesn't have a job in the NFL in charge of quarterbacks
Honestly that’s a good thing. 25 maybe harsh but he needs to be drafted into a good situation with his injury history. He’s a beast
@joosegoose25
Ай бұрын
You hear that sound? I think it's the gjallarhorn...
@spencerweiss6337
Ай бұрын
@@joosegoose25 that would be awesome. Perfect QB for Jetta
Penix injuries will be a detriment to his pick
Maxx Crosby WILL win DPOY in 2024
Are people just reacting to the headlines? Orlovsky's point is that Penix's injury history will knock him out of the top 25. Even as a UW alum and diehard Penix fan, that's a fair criticism.
What’s the last dude Orlovsky was right about? I’ll wait….
never noticed tones tattoos
This aged well
VirGina Slims Malrboro Menthols 🅰️🅾️
Dan O is so pissed he has to come on this show 😂, hes such a douche. Love Pat McAfee show, miss Rodgers though.
It's better for him to go to a good team and learn from a good QB. Rams could potentially scoop him up and sit behind Stafford.
Lol. McCarthy shouldn't be drafted. Which is exactly what I said about Darnold. Penix should get a starting opportunity.
DAMN COWBOY LOOK SLIM
That Cowboys will gladly take him and end this Dak drama. 😂
I can see the Patriots trading up at the end of the 1st and taking him.
What I'd give for someone who could compile a stencil of "This Is My Opinion" list and expose all the geniuses who make these predictions. Do not need to go back any further than Ryan Leaf or Demarcus Hustle LOL
Anyone can get injured. 🤷 Frank Gore had 2 ACL injuries on same knee and had a solid 16 year career.
Lmao yeah right if Vikings don't have a QB at 23 he is gone at 23
Why ask this guy when he played QB he was chase out of the endzone by Jared Allen
People too caught up in the way he spins it. I am not taking a 24 year old left handed QB with like 4 different season ending injuries and two acls. Helllllll nah
Penix. Like Rodgers dropping to 21 in his draft. Or Marino being the fifth qb off the board in his draft. Watch.
Why do these analysts speak like their opinions are facts? Pretty everyone is wrong with the draft.💯
That's why chubb fell to the second round and the browns ended up drafting him
If u say JJ is better than penix u don’t know football
Remember when dan said mac jones was going top 3 three years ago?
What if Dallas drafts him and he sits for a year. I'm not a Dallas fan, but I'm sure they don't want to cut Dak
Vikings have to pick a QB. And there isn't a team in the NFL that has a better 2 Wide Receivers (Jefferson, Addison), TE (Hoeckenson) and Rb (Aaron Jones) than Minnesota.
@brianmyers4444
Ай бұрын
Penix at 11…
Id say Penix goes to the Raiders or Vikings
Would the Dallas Cowboys draft Pennix since they are going (at this time) to just let Dak ride the end of his contract out……
Why are Seattle fans trying so hard to manifest QB at 16? Geno is fine, anything other than best available Center/Edge is criminal
@shazmagoon
2 ай бұрын
Seattle doesn't need Center or Edge, they need IDL/Guard
@davidrobinson3154
2 ай бұрын
@@shazmagoon maybe I was misinformed. I don't follow Seattle that closely. Similar needs regardless
Jj the best at nothing but somehow people rank him over penix lol. Can't wait to see what team gets mccarthy over these other qbs
The fact he ran a 4.5 shows that he intentionally stopped running to stop getting hurt. Penix has proven he chose not to run and he hasn’t been hurt since 2021. I can see why Dan was a 0-16 QB. He’s not the brightest.
Orlovsky been a joke
Michael penix to the Cardinals 27 and they draft Marvin Harrison Jr. At 4
I bet if he was running fast out the back of the end zone then Dan would be projecting him 1 overall.
Tua had all kinds of injuries got drafted 5th.
@zackhurwitz9441
Ай бұрын
Tua was also much younger coming out, and healthier relative to Penix. 2 ACL and shoulder surgeries in 6 seasons is a lot. He's a first round talent, but I think he needs to sit and fully adjust physically and mentally to the league.
Can’t take anything Dan says serious. When was the last time he was right about anything? This is coming from the same guy who said Fields would win MVP and that Jayden Daniels is QB1 ahead of Caleb. Dude is a total hack
Think the raiders take a chance on him
If jj gets drafted before penix