Anderson was also on Peds. He literally did an interview in his house in front of a bottle of HGH 😂😂. It’s GSP by default

@someguy701

8 ай бұрын

He said that in the video you deaf or something ?

@novared103gaming3

8 ай бұрын

What about mighty mouse ?

@julchien9901

8 ай бұрын

Its really between gsp and dj

@saveyabreath680

8 ай бұрын

@@novared103gaming3 he’s sadly very underrated in that conversation

@shade8810

8 ай бұрын

@@saveyabreath680 theyve all done roids and gsp and dj cant be the goat when you have been finished before and had loads of close decisions. jones clears

GSP is the GOAT in my opinion. Losses do not matter because he made up every single loss with a victory. To me, greatness isn't perfection. It is the ability to overcome trials and tribulations. He learned from his mistakes and became better because of them.

@thememeconnoisseur4088

8 ай бұрын

I mean GSP was definitely taking peds considering he literally had capped delts in his prime so 🤷

@Slim-MMA

8 ай бұрын

Aldo’s resume is clear.

@ekayn1606

8 ай бұрын

@@Slim-MMA he never came back to dominate after Conor beat him

@ekayn1606

8 ай бұрын

@@thememeconnoisseur4088 Yeah, no way a lifelong athlete could possibly have well-defined muscles

@thememeconnoisseur4088

8 ай бұрын

@@ekayn1606 You don't get capped delts naturally, though and you definitely wouldn't get tham as a fighter when you're constantly travelling, fighting and recovering from injuries

That’s why we have Mike Perry

@TupacHasMyBike

8 ай бұрын

Champ of Cameroon🇿🇦

@BlackWatchNotingham

5 ай бұрын

I mean he is the Bareknucle GOAT

Demetrius Johnson has 12 title defences. Title defence against Adriano Moraes definitely counts even if it is in ONE championship, Adriano is good enough to be a champ contendor in UFC as well

@cltv5407

7 ай бұрын

Straight up facts!!!

@soliderfromtf2810

4 ай бұрын

To me he's the goat. Cleared out flyweight in the ufc, has the most title defenses, even after losing the belt in a close fight he went to onefc to win a flyweight tournament and the belt. He's the goat and you either has to be biased or blind to not see it.

@Takemura77

4 ай бұрын

@@soliderfromtf2810Flyweight is a trash division and onefc mma is a joke compared to the UFC

@kylesadirtbag5937

4 ай бұрын

I mean…they weren’t that good of wins. The flyweight division in his time was weak. The PFL has better flyweights today than the ufc had back then

@fenrir834

4 ай бұрын

@@kylesadirtbag5937 How the fuck do you decide that the flyweight division was weak in comparison to other divisions?

Jon Jones • Lost to Reyes and Alexander. • Scared of Tom Aspinall and natural heavyweights.

@Takemura77

4 ай бұрын

Sped found

@vedanthnair5443

3 ай бұрын

I agree on the first point, but saying Jon Jones is afraid of anything on this planet is blasphemy

@The_LostSky

3 ай бұрын

​@@vedanthnair54432nd point is also absolutely correct. Jon is ducking Aspinall from a long time.

@LarryL3g3nd

2 ай бұрын

@@The_LostSkyTell Aspinall beat Curtis first

@Angellisgod

2 ай бұрын

@@LarryL3g3ndor get this, why doesn’t jones unify the belts ? LMAO

I don't think loses are that important. Joe Louis, Ali, and Manny all have losses, and it doesn't detract from their greatness.

@DWAP580

8 ай бұрын

None of those guys are close to the goat convo, closest is manny and he is still far

@DWAP580

8 ай бұрын

Those guys you named are only mentioned by people is because of how polarizing of public figures/ entertainers they were yea they had great moments in there individual careers but there’s a whole list of guys that weren’t as popular that did twice as much as for legacy in their careers

@dandelves

8 ай бұрын

@DWAP580 I only mentioned the above for the casuals and to help make a point. Yes, boxing has many greats and would be interested in hearing who you have at number 1. If any

@hankhill5409

8 ай бұрын

Greatness doesn't studder bro

@Moonl55

8 ай бұрын

Exploits an issue with the game tho

Technically DJ is also a two weight class champion because ONE’s flyweight is 135 pounds

@hankhill5409

8 ай бұрын

He is the GOAT, without a doubt

@Suplex479

8 ай бұрын

No, ONE doesn't allow extreme weight cutting, so the ONE flyweights would still be flyweights in the UFC

@ABeastGaming

8 ай бұрын

yeah but he got KOD.. pretty badly and lost a couple fights.. thats one thing you can say about him.. Jon Jones is definitely the BEST record wise.. but the steroids just hold him back so much..@@hankhill5409

@infomex3383

8 ай бұрын

@@hankhill5409 no he's not, half his defenses were against bums

@StJ-dt1xn

7 ай бұрын

@@Suplex479 Lets be real theres no way adriano moraez is making real flyweight dude

You just replace the DQ loss with the Reyes robery, simple

@jameshartman3630

8 ай бұрын

Not a definitive robbery

@Suplex479

8 ай бұрын

​​@@jameshartman3630as definitive as it gets

@DADRB0B55

8 ай бұрын

Hendricks vs GSP was worse, so was DJ vs cejudo 2 & even Volk vs Islam

@Suplex479

8 ай бұрын

@@DADRB0B55 DJ Cejudo was worse maybe yes, but not the others

@benerdick_cumberbiatch

8 ай бұрын

@@DADRB0B55Yes Hendrix was robbed but he was also on PEDS so it shouldn't be a win for GSP or a loss. Volk and Islam haven't done enough to be in the GOAT conversation, but they probably will.

GSP and Mighty Mouse. Few losses,no controversy

@lancing2.098

8 ай бұрын

Controversy doesn’t matter, ultimately skill is all that matters, also stop being naive, it’s highly like that both gsp, might mouse and majority of fighters have popped at some point.

@mahdigamer2852

8 ай бұрын

@@lancing2.098 who is ur goat then?

@lancing2.098

7 ай бұрын

@@mahdigamer2852 the only goat, Jones

@mahdigamer2852

7 ай бұрын

@@lancing2.098 Jones be cheating 😂

@lancing2.098

7 ай бұрын

@@mahdigamer2852 ye Ik but like 70% of all fighters cheat so why does it matter

You could also have mentioned that Khabib never moved up in weight to challenge for the welterweight belt. That is why I cannot put him higher than guys like Jon Jones and GSP on my goat list. It's sad because I am very confident that he could comfortably beat any guy at 170

@eli.b.7559

8 ай бұрын

A fight between him and GSP would have been amazing!

@markdowding5737

8 ай бұрын

@@eli.b.7559 Usman would also have been cool

@aureum7479

8 ай бұрын

He barely had any title defences

@COOlguy-ed5bq

8 ай бұрын

prime usman wouldve killed him ngl

@rolandobaluja7504

8 ай бұрын

That is a weak argument. You don't have to be in multiple weight classes to be the greatest and win belts in multiple weight classes in order to be the goat. Jones engaged an I poking, and ped use.

Technically Mighty Mouse is a champion in two weight classes The Flyweight title in ONE is at 135 pounds

“Every fighter is on steroids” -Nate Diaz

@like2jo4796

3 ай бұрын

Nope they aren't 😂

@jas_0

5 күн бұрын

Yeah but it's about who got caught 😂

3 robbery gift decisions, fighting dirty as fuck, having fewer finishes since USADA came into the sport than controversial split decisions, failed drug tests, and even arrests and almost never fighting someone who wasn't a head shorter with a 8+ inch reach disadvantage are also against Jones. Anyway everyone has their disqualifying asterisks. I go back and forth between Khabib and Mighty Mouse. Silva is in there if you believe he didn't juice before his injury and only count the height of his career

@lolooo1050

7 ай бұрын

Wow u must really hate the guy😂😂

@fenrir834

7 ай бұрын

3 robberies? I understand fight with Reyes was a robbery but what about the other 2?

@M3lon09

7 ай бұрын

​@@fenrir834probably talking about santos and the first Gustaffson fight

@ahadmerchant7510

7 ай бұрын

@@M3lon09Santos wasn’t a robbery whatsoever tbh. Jones won the Gustafson fight. Only Reyes was a robbery…

@Jack-xy9vi

2 ай бұрын

I don’t even like the guy but you’re really trying to find anything you can to convince yourself that Jones ain’t one of the goats lmao

You should do a worst fighter fan bases. Because for me I like khabib , volk and jones(as a fighter) but their fan bases are one of the worst

@richardbug3094

8 ай бұрын

volks fan are much better then holloway fans.

@r3n722

8 ай бұрын

Mcgregor and oliveira fans are pretty shit as well

@Naksu..

8 ай бұрын

Volk fan is the worst

@DADRB0B55

8 ай бұрын

Khabib is the only one along with Izzy fans before he got clapped by Strickland that ever got that toxic, DC fans are pretty hypocritical & toxic as well.

@aidenfielding1348

8 ай бұрын

Islam fans who act like he beat volk

To be fair to Khabib, he had the longest win streak in LW at 13 and the most title defences are tied at 3. A lot of ppl don’t want to put him in the GOAT convo because they felt like he ran away which is sad

@deniz5140

7 ай бұрын

I mean he got mentioned in the video. So he is in the goat convo. But 3 title defences vs 13 or 9 from Jones and Gsp is just to big of an difference.

@user-ox9ez8rd2x

7 ай бұрын

​@@deniz5140khabib retired in his prime (prob had 1-2 years left of his prime as he was still getting better every fight) and he defo had at least 4 years on top. I'd argue he would have more time on top as he wasn't an athlete that relied on explosive power. If we look in the division now there isn't anyone that could beat him. He was also in lightweight the greatest and most competitive division of all time. Gsp still the goat tho.

@deniz5140

7 ай бұрын

@@user-ox9ez8rd2x Its just way to much predictions and barely any evidence compared to the other goats. Gsp was a better fighter than all of his opponents and still had 2 losses. No one knows how long Khabib could have stayed undefeated and how his career would have went over the next few years. He simply retired to early to be the goat.

@onzazalol1168

7 ай бұрын

It’s because he cut so much weight and never faced any decorated grapplers, so he was taking down strikers while having 30~50Ibs on them, Jones only cut 15 pounds in LHW.

@Bl4ckG0AT

6 ай бұрын

and he fails to make weight

I don't hold GSP's losses against him too much. The fact he came back and not just won a decision or beat Serra and Hughes, he destroyed them and beat them both the way they beat him. He armbared Hughes and essentially made Serra quit from strikes. Plus GSP's list of wins literally could not be better. He beat every single great WW from 3 era's. He beat 4 Hall of Famers, the UFC LW champion, the UFC WW champion, the UFC MW champion, the Strikeforce MW champion, the Strikeforce WW champion and the WEC WW champion. Recentcy bias is the only thing that hurts GSP. Most fans today were not watching the UFC back when Hughes, Trigg, Sherk and Fitch were monsters at WW and have no way of appreciating the level of competition he's been facing since he was 6-0. GSP is MMA's definitive GOAT.

@alhfgsp

5 ай бұрын

GSP beat the best at their best AND at their own games. He out struck the strikers and out wrestled the wrestlers despite never competing in formal wrestling. He's my personal favorite and will always belong in the GOAT conversation.

One more + for DJ, he went and took a disadvantageous fight in One FC facing the greatest Muay Thai fighter of all time in a special fight with the first round being Muay Thai and was competitive and won that fight in the MMA round. May not be a 2 divisional champion but he took a risk not many MMA champions took especially not one where they won

@user-ox9ez8rd2x

7 ай бұрын

Kinda got a great point but kind of waffle tbh. What you was kind of saying is DJ has done a lot outside of the UFC that isn't taken into account but the rodtang (sanchai is the muay Thai goat not rodtang) fight shouldn't be a serious factory . Firstly it was an expedition. Secondly rodtang was at the disadvantage as it's easier to enhance some skills you already knew and just not use 1 tool than to completely learn a new tool (DJ was also already a better striker than grappler who did use knees and elbows) so I'd say rodtang was at a disadvantage.

@onzazalol1168

7 ай бұрын

Henry cejudo beat DJ in his prime, and no one considers cejudo the GOAT, even in his own division

@cobaltjay9862

7 ай бұрын

@@onzazalol1168 because it was a close fight many people think DJ won. Very well could have been something Dana orchestrated to get DJ out of there

@onzazalol1168

6 ай бұрын

@@cobaltjay9862 The fight was close but cejudo learned from their first fight and kept enough pressure and volume to have the edge over DJ but even if let’s just say it was a robbery, for someone to be even in the conversation of GOAT status, you should be able to steamroll through the best of the best in your prime, Aldo did it, Connor did it, GSP did it, Silva did it, Jones did it. And just to clarify I believe DJ is the most likable dude out of all of these names, been subscribed to his YT channel for 2~3 years now and I watch his content pretty consistently, but in a unbiased POV, I do have to say he does lack in aspects that other fighters excel at.

@marcoantoniodangelo9956

5 ай бұрын

Rodtang is not the greatest Muay Thai fighter of all time, c'mon

Another reason why I think Jon Jones would not be considered the goat would be that he only has a single fight in HW and that was against an incomplete fighter Ciryl Gane. Despite his dominant performance it's not enough to call him HW goat, if he has a few more big fights in HW it would solidify his legacy. Even his fight with Stipe Miocic if he wins won't make him the goat because Stipe is old and hasn't fought in forever.

@fusionasylum2285

8 ай бұрын

it’s arguing the greatest fighter of all time not the heavy weight goat, his small achievement in a different weight class has nothing to with it

@jeffsmith2304

8 ай бұрын

I’d say goat status would mean that they have success in other weight classes such as GSP having welterweight and middleweight because it shows fighter versatility between weight classes and different opponents.

@fusionasylum2285

8 ай бұрын

@@jeffsmith2304 bro gsp had 1 fight at middleweight and beat michael bisbing won the title and retired, jones had 1 fight at heavyweight and won the title. they have both done the exact same thing at the 2nd weight class. what are you talking about

@DADRB0B55

8 ай бұрын

Gane is a better win than dogshit Bisping, bro you just contradicted yourself

@Moonl55

8 ай бұрын

Jon’s Light Heavyweight record > GSP’s career.

Dude, Anderson was 40 when he started losing. He wasn't in his prime anymore. Only Daniel Cormier would have still beaten him regardless and he fought an older version of Anderson. Chris Weidman was the only fighter to beat Anderson in Anderson's prime. Only issue is both fights ended due to Anderson either playing around or due to an injury. Plus, Anderson Silva wanted to retire before they even made that fight.

@andreseraso2737

5 ай бұрын

Problem is Anderson was on PEDs

I would also add that Jones used his eye poke trick and the oblique kicks, the latter which have permanently crippled Thiago Santos

@cltv5407

7 ай бұрын

And Rampage too

@mrsherlockbeast8725

6 ай бұрын

I mean those are part of fighting

@s66s46

5 ай бұрын

​@mrsherlockbeast8725 eye pokes???😂

@mrsherlockbeast8725

5 ай бұрын

@@s66s46 yes

@sascha269real

4 ай бұрын

The oblique kicks are legal, I guess punches would have to be illegal the way they can break bones?

I feel DJ or GSP are the 2 contenders bc I feel to be the GOAT you have to suffer defeat bc as they say it’s not about losses its’s about how you bounce back from them. GSP avenged both and DJ avenged his loss to moraes and the 2nd cejudo fight was controversial. The only other losses were due to size disadvantage or lack of experience

For me it’s either GSP or DJ but I lean slightly towards DJ. His 3 losses consist of a close decision to Cejudo who he also has knocked out. And his other 2 losses are at 135 (in one championship flyweight is 135). And he avenged the Moraes loss twice.

@gcrazy6820

4 ай бұрын

I’ll say DJ

Another great vid🙌keeps these up please🙏

Just the fact alone that we have different weight classes makes it empirically impossible to definitely put one on top the other

Anderson Silva's fighting style revolves around his reflexes, and this gets severely diminished with age. Which explains his losing streak. He was old. Anyone you can put into the conversation of GOAT likely permanently retired before they even got to that age.

fellas i was ill when filming this hence why i sound like rosas jr👊

@in33d2floss7

8 ай бұрын

Wut bro ur voice is so monotone i cant tell

@landy_r2z

8 ай бұрын

U sounded the same brutha

@makoarey6023

8 ай бұрын

jon jones has 11 title defense btw

@makoarey6023

8 ай бұрын

mighty mouse has 4 losses not 3

„If you haven’t lost in this sport you haven’t fought the right guys“

Greatness isn't numbers on a page. It's what you see with your eyes. When you've acknowledged important information that inspires you to be better. That is when you know you've seen greatness.

Has to be gsp Can’t use steroids 4 times and think it’s ok

@barebuttspankin

8 ай бұрын

If you are counting out steroids DJ blows gsp out of the water

@COOlguy-ed5bq

8 ай бұрын

@@barebuttspankin gsp clears wdym

@barebuttspankin

8 ай бұрын

@@COOlguy-ed5bq 11 title defenses vs 9 title defenses. DJ is a more skilled fighter. Johnny Hendricks. Jones is the goat by undisputedly but DJ probably surpasses gsp.

@COOlguy-ed5bq

8 ай бұрын

@@barebuttspankin gsp beat better competition, i have dj at 3 but i think gsps resume is better

@barebuttspankin

8 ай бұрын

@@COOlguy-ed5bq I think that’s a argument to be made but I don’t think the skill he faced is so much better to the point we’re 2 more title defenses aren’t more valuable. Also I would say out of them both Henry cejudo is the best guy on both resumes. I think there interchanging. I do think jones is the clear goat though. And fuck khabib

It's Jones for me. I personally don't mind the steroids; people act like all his opponents have been clean, or that nobody else has ever juiced. The only one I consider to be even to him is DJ.

@noahsibahi-jackson8757

4 ай бұрын

Exactly right, this stigma against steroid usage when every top level athlete can and will take them is absolutely retarded. If people want to sook and wine about gear then they shouldn’t compete it’s that simple.

All ddemetrious johnson losses was so close and even misjudged in my opnion Anyway great video sir

Funny how people be talking about jones vs reyes controversal decision like a million times but no one talks khabib and tibau match, where khabib wasnt even able to land a single takedown and fogret about khabibs striking in that match😂

@mas72450

8 ай бұрын

Lmao what? People parrot that tired shit in videos that aren't even related to Khabib

@prashantawasthi2418

8 ай бұрын

and GSP against Penn 1st and Hendricks

@zypher9959

8 ай бұрын

@@mas72450 as if you people don't comment khabibs name in every jones and con or video, stop being a d-rider

@silentassassin423

8 ай бұрын

Khabib didn't have a scratch. Tibau landed like one big knee in round 3 and that's it. Imo, Khabib landed bigger strikes in other rounds.

@cltv5407

7 ай бұрын

Cuz Tibau was clearly on PEDs and that fight was easily 30-27 Khabib. But Jones clearly lost first 3 rounds against Reyes.

Khabib is the GOAT. No one ever came close to beating him. Never got dropped, arguably never lost a round, retired undefeated, in the toughest division in MMA and his style changed the game.

@zaeynalamgir1384

8 ай бұрын

khabib is not the goat but definitely the lightweight goat Pro's - 1.TOUGHEST AND MOST STACKED DIVISON 2. MOST DOMINANT FIGHTER EVER / HIS LOW's WERE ALREADY PLANNED (he purposefully gave his neck for dustin poirirer for guillotine to make him tired but people thought Dustin was close) 3.GOD LEVEL WRESTLER, underrated CHIN and CARDIO, weird but effective HEAD movement 4.ONLY LOST 2 ROUNDS in his career which were close and he never planned that out. 5. FINISHED THE TOP LEVEL PLAYERS LIKE RDA, MICHAEL JOHNSON, BARBOZA in their PRIME 6. HIS 3 TITLE DEFENSES WERE AGAINST KILLER's who everyone thought would defeat him 7. his fight against TIBAU WAS CLOSE BUT TIBAU CAUGHT USING PED's after that( he got suspended). 8. GOOD FIGHT IQ / never claimed himself to be the GOAT... he never wanted to be. DISCIPLINED , RESPECTFUL , WARRIOR MINDSET , And a very GOOD HUMAN BEING CON's 1. ONLY 3 TITLE DEFENSES 2. HIS GAME WAS WRESTLING BUT NOT MANY ELITE WRESTLERS OR GREAT WRESTLING TAKEDOWN DEFENCE PLAYERS IN THE LIST excptn{ RDA , TIBAU , HEALY } 3. did'nt MOVE UP THE DIVISON IN WelterW.. WHICH WAS ACTUALLY GOOD CONSIDERING HIS NATURAL WEIGHT { I BELIVE PRIME KHABIB WOULD DEFEAT PRIME USMAN } NOTE: PEOPLE WHO CALL HIM GOAT OF MMA r either HIS personalty FANS or just khabib mad fans... AND PEOPLE WHO CALL HIM A PATHETIC FIGHTER OR NO WEHRE NEAR GOAT ARE JUST CASUALS AND U KNOW WHICH FANBASE/CULT/RELIGION THEY REPRESENT... HONESTLY KHABIB IS HATED NOT AS A FIGHTER BUT DUE TO HIS BELEIFS/FIGHTING STYLE (sometimes)/RELIGION/AND OFCOURSE CERTAIN FANBASE [ u know what im talking about ]

@Slim-MMA

8 ай бұрын

Tibau arguably beat him. Khabib has like 4 great wins. Overrated.

@zaeynalamgir1384

8 ай бұрын

he was on ped's mate... the decision could had been the other way around but it was control time for khabib.. a connor fan calling someone overrated is the most shittiest thing i have heard . aldo,(YOUNG)holloway were his good wins other than that none . he lost to people who beat him so hows that... HUH casual@@Slim-MMA

@genzeuronymous7787

8 ай бұрын

You're a dingus

@coypandora0795

7 ай бұрын

@@zaeynalamgir1384khabib is not the lightweight goat 😂 just because he has a belt doesn’t mean he’s the greatest people need to learn

None of these guys (Khabib, DJ, GSP, Silva, Jones, etc) is the GOAT, not even close. As GSP once said: THE REAL GOAT is yet to come, he may not be even born yet. The guys we are seeing now are just prototypes who are paving the way for him, and when he arrives, he is going to turn the sport upside down.

@felixthehelix1481

8 ай бұрын

New mythic fighter "the One yet to come"

@gonzaloalvarado3728

8 ай бұрын

@@felixthehelix1481 It is what it is my bro hahahaha The sport was created just 30 years ago but we're already searching for GOAT. It's like saying a boxer of 1790's was the GOAT. We just have to be patient as things are developing in a higher pace now, so I'm sure we'll be able to see "him" fight.

@thebatman-lr1sq

5 ай бұрын

dude finna be nicknamed “the chosen one” or shi like that

@saqenocturne9769

4 ай бұрын

yeah ig the goat would be like how Magnus Carlsen is the goat of Chess. That's the type of dominance we need for a definite goat.

Nice vids brother

1 GSP 2 Demetrious Johnson 3 Jose Aldo If we include peds then Jones is 1 and Silva is 5th, nobody besides these 5 fighters belong in a GOAT list

@lifeanimatedinc.9847

6 ай бұрын

real for including Aldo, so many people nowadays disregard him for the Conor Fight when he's the greatest Featherweight oat in the UFC

@move3336

3 ай бұрын

Who did aldo beat that was decent? In his prime He got ko’d 1st round to Mcgregor, lost to Holloway and volk 😂 he’s not even the best in his division

@benerdick_cumberbiatch

3 ай бұрын

@@move3336 Everyone he beat was good including your mum, featherweight has always been top three best and I say the best division. TKZ, Faber, Frankie Edgar and Chad Mendes are his best wins but none of his WEC or UFC wins were bad. Greatest doesn't mean the best, it means the greatest which means the most title defences. Jose Aldo is not the best featherweight ever, he's probably 5th if not less than that.

@Satn17

2 ай бұрын

Aldo's prime was before conor... he was undefeated for like 15 years... and was defending belt for a decade... its not his problem if he didn't get great contenders.... but he still has beaten elite fighters at his time​@@move3336

@SamuelAustin-lg6cp

2 ай бұрын

What?? Aldo had one of the greatest title reigns of all time and completely dominated featherweight until the Conor fight. He knocked out Chad Mendes and beat him twice in total, knocked out Korean zombie and beat Frankie edgar twice. And that's just a few.

1. Aldo 2. GSP 3. Mighty Mouse Anything else is wrong.

@giuseppemundollo5625

6 ай бұрын

💀💀💀💀💀

@Satn17

2 ай бұрын

Perfect 👌

GSP or Bones for me. Outside of the UFC? Fedor.

@Slim-MMA

8 ай бұрын

Jones isn’t top 3. Aldo and Mighty Mouse are clear.

Imo, losses dont matter as long as they are avenged, in fact it makes for a great storyline when a champion loses because of one of his own vices, before coming to realise his mistakes and making an effort to correct them and come back stronger than before.

DJ is my goat. I truly believe if everyone was on an even playing field that DJ would win. He has the MOST COMPLETE mma bag oat. There isnt a thing the man cannot do in the octagon

My GOAT is Amanda Nunes, so underated but I can't find anything to take her from the number 1 After her, I put Anderson Silva... Most of the critiques about him are from things that happened when he was already old. Even the loss to Weidman happened when he wasn't in his prime... His only problem was to take too long to retire... And if he retired earlier, he would be criticized for retiring soon, as Nurmagomedov Then, after him, I put John Jones... But tbh, it's mostly because I can't ignore his personal life and I find dirty the amout of eye pokes he scores.

Khabib needs to stop being overrated, yes he dominated lightweight but he had perfect matchups, most of his career he fought nobodies, the 3 best people he beat are all strikers with bad wrestling, perfect matchup for him

When we talk about the Domininance and positive influence it gotta be Khabib but yeah he has 3 Title defenses which is very less compared to other greats but we also must realise other divisions aren't even close to being stacked as the lightweight division

It’s hilarious how Jones, the biggest scumbag in the sport, is the one the UFC try to push as GOAT.

@mrsherlockbeast8725

6 ай бұрын

He is though

jon has 11 title defenses

How you can be the goat if you cheat?

Can dc be in the convo ?

@Satn17

2 ай бұрын

He definitely is

I think a problem you forgot to add about DJ is flyweight is probably the least competitive division

Everyone has their own goat list. there is no such thing as goat that everyone will agree on

Calling Jones the GOAT is why people don't take MMA seriously. Other legitimate sports have extremely low tolerance to any such BS. In the UFC, you have the president of the UFC fighting for roided cheats and calls them GOATs.

@mrsherlockbeast8725

6 ай бұрын

As a fighter, his he's the goat, but for the ufc, it's hard to say

I'm making a point system for this. Should being a champion in a Major promotion besides UFC count?

Been saying this for years, it's a rock-paper-scissors thing with who the GOAT is. You can make legit arguments for (and against) half a dozen different guys

Jon Jones lost too. Remember Reyes

Jon jones cloesest fight (and in my opinion lost but judges had biases) was with Dominick Reyes, with a close second being Alex G loved both fights majority of his fights are him straight out classing his opps but all in all having only had taken steeroids other than that and it being his biggest flaw most definitely makes him the GOAT. Khabib on the other hand is a career both him and us as fans were robbed of but its completely understandable would have loved watching him vs Volk and possibly Islam

@goldenmale

8 ай бұрын

Alex G? Whats your favorite song bud?

@d444nnyy

8 ай бұрын

why would he fight islam

@rolandobaluja7504

8 ай бұрын

Jones got to take advantage that the ref ignored his chronic eye poking, Gave him wins when He lost three of five rounds against reyes

@thememeconnoisseur4088

8 ай бұрын

​​@@rolandobaluja7504Tbf they did the same for Gus, Justin, and Ferguson

the definite goat is GSP, most technical fighter, would beat ANY fighter if they met up at an even weight (yes even jones, since gsp would have to gain weight making him stronger) amazing striking AND grappling, and amazing fight iq

The GOAT of MMA for me is Fedor Emelianenko. To me, not even thinking about who the best is just seems short-sighted to me. In reality, there is no GOAT because fighters keep improving, keep getting stronger, and diminish in skill over time. To me, Jon hasn't completely proven himself. He fought the best in his division, but most were out of their prime or he waited until they were, like he did with Lyoto Machida. If prime Shogun from the Pride FC days fought Jon Jones, I'm confident in myself when I say that I think he could win

I still don’t believe Jon Jones is undefeated. Sure he was dominating that match before his DSQ, but one lucky punch from the opponent can lead to a knockout so you can never know who would’ve actually won.

@Slim-MMA

8 ай бұрын

He robbed Reyes anyway. Overrated fraud.

@lolooo1050

7 ай бұрын

Tht was the stupidest thing ive ever heard in my life

@ManBat420

7 ай бұрын

I don't think he deserves the DQ for the Hamil fight but the NC to Cormier should be a DQ. Could have easily lost the decsions to Reyes, Gus and Santos as well, his record could easily be 23-5

jon jones has 11 title defenses

It's Mighty Mouse had his relationship with the UFC management not soured and he had never left, this debate wouldn't have existed, he probably wouldn't have lost to Cejudo if that wasn't the case and went up the weight class won the title and avenged his loss against Cruz probably. It would've been over

GSP is closest to the GOAT status. He lose some fight but he get his revenge of his 2 losses anyway, that make him even greater. Also his personality, a role model of the sport.

jon jones is the Goat their is no debate

@in33d2floss7

8 ай бұрын

Nope steroids dqs u

@giuseppemundollo5625

6 ай бұрын

@@in33d2floss7the whole UFC is in steroids😂

Nah that shit dont matter, Jon Jones is the Goat

@OffArch98

8 ай бұрын

Steroid Cheat

Khabib was a monster, but no one knows any of the 15 first fights he had.

dj for sure. he's kept winning in one where everyone is 10lbs + bigger, likely never taken steroids and was extremely donninant. jon jones has juiced throughout his career and mostly fought smaller opponents too. pound for pound, dj is the goat

if we look at just ability, i think Jones is the greatest FIGHTER of all time. He's well rounded with high fight IQ and beats people everywhere. But he is also a freak of nature athlete and always has the physical advantage (height and reach). I think DJ is the greatest MIXED MARTIAL ARTIST of all time. GSP is 2nd but i think DJ is the most well rounded fighter ever AND he is always the one at a physical disadvantage pretty much always fighting against the reach advantage.

Another important thing about Mighty Mouse is they never let him get his belt back from triple C which is a crime

I think Jon Jones is the GOAT. The fight against Reyes was not a robbery (1, 2 round Reyes won, 3rd was a draw, 4th for Jones and 5th was easy for Jones) The other close fight was vs Gustaffson (r.1, 2 for Gus but 3, 4, and dominated 5th round for Jones). The rest of his opponents got destroyed and Jon was clearly toying with them. He beat multiple big names. I don't think that Jon's personal life (car accident, weekends with cocaine) changes what he did for the sport. He's the most complete fighter in the world.

@bingus1829

6 ай бұрын

3rd round against Reyes was not a draw, Reyes clearly won on effective striking with superior volume and vastly superior impact, grappling was negligent and aggresion/octagon control are not a factor due to the clear dominance on the effective striking criteria.

You forgot to give to Jon the “double champ” status too…

@user-kb7sl1xv5r

3 ай бұрын

he won both on drugs

There is a goat and his name is demetrious johnson. Most title defenses, fought a whos who at flyweight, did it clean with no ped or troubles outside of fighting, even after losing a close fight against triple c he went to one fc and won their flyweight belt. Yea he lost the first fight against moraes and lost to cruz but he fought cruz at bantamweight and just got caught with a knee vs moraes. Hes is one of if not the best mma fighters ever.

@Takemura77

4 ай бұрын

Flyweight is a trash division with no names

I never really realized but yea besides boxing mma is the only sport that doesn’t have a clear goat Football: Messi Basketball: Jordan NFL: Brady Tennis: djokovic Golf: tiger

I know it is too early, and really hot take, but Islam could be the GOAT in a couple years if he doesn’t pull a Khabib. Rn I can only see him getting better and defending his belt more and more. He’s the p4p right now and probably for the next fights unless a big upset happens. Although i cant see that happening since he is prob the most complete fighter in the present

Jones has 11 title defenses btw not 13, 8 in his first reign as LHW champ and 3 in his second.

for me it will always be khabib nurmagomedov note , before every fight every opponent knew very well Khabib had only one gameplan take you down and beat the shit outta you round 1 on anyone , takes them down regardless who it is dagistani handcuff and wrestle/ground and pound if they survived round 1 round 2 same process repeats , takes them down and they get dragged into this feeling of they can't do anything against it despite knowing his gameplan and training weeks to stop it round 3 same over and over and over eventually ref stops or they get tapped out they break mentally and physically or they survived all rounds being smeshed mercyless for 5 rounds and khabib wins on decision that's what makes him to me the best to ever do it his style was just unstoppable no matter who you are

@webguy8497

3 ай бұрын

Khabib never bled. Jon got his ass beat by Gus and was gifted a win against Reyes. No where near as dominant as khabib

Yes we do it’s my CAF on every ufc game

Silvas biggest flaw was his cockiness. He kinda ruined fights by running around for 5 rounds because of the fact he was playing with his food. That cost him his GOAT status when Weideman knocked him out while Silva was just goofing around and the rematch he broke his leg. That's how he traded the number 1 spot with maybe not even being Top 5.

Id disagree about Silva not being on par with the next generation. His fight against Izzy was pretty even even with that age difference

Amanda Nunes, GSP, Mighty Mouse. Anyone else is straight up wrong

GSP and MIGHTY MOUSE are the G.O.A.T's

If Jon Jones is the GOAT of UFC so Armstrong is the GOAT of cyclism

For me the 3 GOATs are Jon Jones, Khabib Nurmagomedov, GSP...

That might all change in 8 days . A Big might .

@anti4330

8 ай бұрын

Volk becoming the GOAT?

@julchien9901

8 ай бұрын

Maybe if he beats charles and gaethje too, but not only islam

@anti4330

8 ай бұрын

@julchien9901 yea people are getting ahead of themselves lol. If he beats Islam he's top 3 EASILY

Gsp and mighty mouse are definitely the two goats

DJ is a 2 division champ however you look at it. One fc flyweight is 135lbs and he won, lost, regained the title way past his prime. I don't understand dummies crying about the competition he faced! Like when ronda was around the levels were much lower comapred to now at BW. But She's credited as pioneering Womens MMA. When it comes to DJ, why not keep the same energy for him? When he was around he defeated the highest level of flyweight guys that was available at the time. The ceiling was much lower than the other divisions, which still remains to this day as heavyweight and lightweight don't have the same skill ceiling. But that doesn’t mean that HW fighters have it easy. It's a shame.

The GOAT cannot be undefeated, when you're facing the best of the best, eventually you'll lose. He is still human and all it takes is a single mistake to lose a figt

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Demetrious Johnson. One of the longest tenured champs in UFC history, moved to an overseas league with old school pride rules and adjusted to those to defeat some of the filthiest fighters alive on the opposite side of the world, and he's an extremely good ambassador for the sport. DJ requires more credit. He is the GOAT. If his resume isn't enough, he passes the eye test with flying colors. Dude is literally the perfect MMA fighter. Also, the argument that "you must be undefeated to be the goat" is rubbish for several reasons, chief among them is that fighters have different periods of their career, and some go from strength to strength, being so much better than their nearly unrecognizable former self. GOAT should definitely be about the peak of one's career, because 99.99999999% of fighters are going to have at least a loss or two in their career. Jones lost 2 fights at the end of his LHW tenure, but the judges said he won, otherwise he would be out of contention according to casual fans. He's the paper GOAT at best. For sure top 5, but he's the paper GOAT. Stepping up a division to fight the worst possible opponent to beef up your legacy is not impressive, every single fighter he faced at LHW was more skilled than Cyril Gane, and time is going to age this statement like a fine wine, Gane is not a good mixed martial artist. Dude played FIFA instead of training for God's sake. Khabib could've had it, but he left too many what-ifs, and he won't even call himself the GOAT, he's humble. He doesn't care if he's the GOAT or not, nor whether people recognize him as that or not. As far as primes go, GSP and Silva were unbelievable talents who most likely will never be matched in terms of their greatness again. Kamaru, you could argue, was like 75-80% of a GSP and Adesanya was 60-70% of an Anderson Silva, but they left their primes and definitely did not trail off the peak of their careers with any real promise of a return to former glory. Both are likely done as top tier, championship-grade fighters. One Honorable Mention I think has to be Volkanovski, and I think once he beats Topuria, people will be high off of him again. Everyone thinks he's "done" because he lost off the couch to a champion a division above his own, but he'll put that to bed soon.

Drmetrious Johnson is basically Jon Jones od short kings

1:53 So have numerous other top ranking heavyweight UFC fighters like Francis Nganou, Brock Lesner, Alister Oveream, even elite fighters in lower weight classes…. They simply haven’t been tested for them nothing more. Just because a fighter isn’t huge doesn’t mean they aren’t leveraging some form of performance enhancing wherever possible; this argument is completely moot.

Crazy how Bones would be the undisputed GOAT if he had never been popped for PEDs… but then again, maybe he would have lost a few fights due to not being on them… who knows

@Freshproduce123

4 ай бұрын

Nearly every professional athlete is on some sort of illegal drugs

That fight with Dominick Reyes was an absolute robbery. He was handily beaten for three round straight, which by all definitions was a win. And we'll likely never know the extent of PED usage by Jon Jones, but there's so many fucking stories about it, and there's such a relentless, never-ending amount of stories of him either being involved with PEDs to an extent, or just being a truly awful person outside of the ring. It's not like Khabib hasn't had a certain amount of steroid allegations. I would weigh GSP or Johnson as the GOAT really. Both decent people with humble personalities and a competive etiquette. Both were highly capable and charted careers. GSP's definitely got a few sus moments here or there, and I'm not on about the nipple tweaking as much as I am fights like the Johnny Hendricks one. By contrast, DJ lost his last fight in the UFC by a controversial decision, which Cejudo debatably didn't even win. But again losses aren't everything, there's plenty of context to them. GSP's losses to Hughes and Serra were avenged **dominantly**. DJ's losses prior to his title run such as against Cruz are symptomatic of being in a weight class too large for him. I mean Aderson Silva's losses prior to own run are far less 'damaging' to his GOAT potential as much as the fall ones are. Jon Jones? Definitely not a GOAT, awful person IRL and confirmed cheating athlete without much doubt, clearly had USADA benefits to an extent. Also blatantly cheated in the ring with eyepokes and arguably illegal knee strikes. He flat out lost to Dominick Reyes, so his record if you counted the DQ as a win would probably just be the same with a +1 win and still 1 loss. Arguably if he had been penalised for his other cheating behaviours then he might even have more NCs/DQs. Greatest does not mean best. Ali is considered the GOAT of Boxing, whereas Lennox Lewis is arguably the Best Boxer to have ever boxed. There's more to it than just record, especially when that record is tainted. Khabib Nurmagomedov? Crushed quite a lot of cans in his career, had a fairly uncompetitive rise given the people he was dealt to fight. Retired quite early, let's be honest. You can make the argument he retired when he should have, but he didn't remain around to fight into his twilight like other people on this list. Anderson Silva? Confirmed Drug cheat, just because he fought other drug cheats shouldn't vindicate that. He was handily defeated by Left-Hook Larry Bisping, a clean athlete at his own game. The subsequent losing skid, and the fact he nearly lost to Sonnen, and later to Weidman fully, was over his arrogant persona in the ring. Pride ultimately struck down Silva quite handily, and in the end his loss streak did a huge disservice to his legacy. Demetrius Johnson? Ruled over Flyweight quite heavily, but only Flyweight. Lost pretty one sidedly to Dominick Cruz, those suplexes yikes. But he was a clean athlete, conducted himself well and was unfairly targeted by the UFC. His final fight in the promotion was arguably either a win, a draw, or a very very close loss. GOAT of Flyweight undoubtably, but just not likely the GOAT of MMA. Had he beaten Cruz and been successful like Cejudo was at Bantamweight, he may have had a very close chance of being the Greatest. GSP for me is the GOAT. Whilst he arguably is up to 3 losses, he avenged two of those dominantly. He defeated Bisping at his prime in a pretty decent showing at Middleweight. He ruled over Welterweight and defeated both Penn and Hughes, who without him likely would've competed for GOAT status themselves. Clean athlete like Johnson, very strong record of fighting and for sure, a well rounded and decent guy. Yeah he's made mistakes here and there, but otherwise I can't fault GSP for the spot. Impressive stats, brilliant performances and excellent legacy. Clean, no personal bullshit involving abusing his wife or doing roids, or drugs, or being alleged with either.

You forgot about paddy pimblett. Clear goat. Chad behaviour to hold a high chin and take strikes like an amateur to make your opponent think his hits dont do nothin

We did tho, DJ. And then he became the MMA goat.

Losses shouldn't matter when discussing GOATS. look at other sports and look at who's the GOAT in each sport Soccer: Messi, Ronaldo, whoever Basketball: MJ, whoever baseball: whoever it is. have all of them won every single game they were in: ABSOLUTELY NOT, and they're still praised for the best to do it. if losses don't count in other sports, why should it here? it should be about skill, technique, title defenses, ETC.

Techincally DJ is champ in 2 weightclasses since in one flyweight is 135

The ufc has a bunch of GOATS. Just string a few wins together and you're in contention for that status

1.jones 2.khabib 3.silva 4.gsp 5.dc

@giuseppemundollo5625

6 ай бұрын

the only correct ranking among the comments

@crackermc

3 ай бұрын

khabib not in top 5 but in top 10

@shade8810

3 ай бұрын

@@crackermc how? he 29-0 he better than dj silva and dc

@jas_0

5 күн бұрын

How khabib is in second ?, correct list should be (if we ignore steroid controversy) 1. Jon 2. Gsp 3. Anderson silva or mighty mouse 5. Khabib

Jon literally has title defenses against OSP and Chael who both have 17 Losses but khabib finished Justin & Dustin who are still ranked top 3 and ppl cry that he had a padded record.

@bartersixx

8 ай бұрын

if u take away the osp and chael fights he still has more title defenses against better fighters

@kingrem3467

4 ай бұрын

Are you serious

you will never get someone 100% so you have to compromise and build a criteria my criteria 1- clean Athletes 2- few loses 3- wins with domination 4- good example for the sport so kids can look up to 5- retired as a winner his last fight must be a win by this I got two now and I'm OK with anyone of them being NO1, also Volk he still undefeated the a Featherweight champion if he win his next fight and retired he is up their 1-Khabib 2-GSP I would put DJ with them but he is not retired yet so i don't know if he will win his last fight or not

@pastorofmuppets9346

4 ай бұрын

Last win is oddly specific. Kinda stupid too when you consider ppl like alexander karelin

Being undefeated in MMA just shows you didnt fight enough imo. It became such a big thing in boxing to have a perfect record and it came over to the UFC.

The second time he was flagged I thought it was determined to be the same dose from before

GSP is my current GOAT fighter, but DJ can still surpass that as he is still active