Jones has flaws in his resume... and drug use. Khabib has zero flaws... and no cheating allegations. Debate over.

@WTC-1990

3 жыл бұрын

it's GSP or Khabib

@Boebuscuse

3 жыл бұрын

Easy to have zero flaws when you only have 4 title defenses. GSP, Mighty Mouse, Jones, Anderson Silva > Khabib

@Rundvelt

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. This whole debate is stupid.

@abdoukiller1512

3 жыл бұрын

@@Boebuscuse oh yeah its easy to have zero flows when u only have 29 fights/wins in the hardest devision in the ufc yeah?? If its that easy then lets see u try it tough guy.

@KeithChapman-hr5kx

3 жыл бұрын

Names beat, and you fangirl know. It. Jones is a bum imo but hes beat better people. If jones runs thru heavy weight and no more ped fails. Hes the goat

Luke Thomas's breakdown of Khabib's finish of Gaetje in the beginning was great.

@SmearierSonjay

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah he’s a great person to listen to if you want to learn more about the sport. Truly great insight.

@TRiXest95YO

3 жыл бұрын

Amazing!

@jayceeinvincible

3 жыл бұрын

Facts💯

@sheshd

3 жыл бұрын

He's breakdowns are ALWAYS on point. So much better listening to him over idiots like Schaub

@andrewsporkelson1185

3 жыл бұрын

How Schaub is still around amazes me. Dude is propped up by pure hate

So it is basically like this: Jones = what he accomplished Khabib = how he accomplished

@grandpas_brownies8710

Жыл бұрын

Bingo

@tunisiandom9318

Жыл бұрын

Khabib said it himself ... my legacy is smash. He did not care how many, he cared that he did smash them. and smash he did.

@mansamusa897

Жыл бұрын

True God gifted Talent in John Jones +Better Resume Hard Work and Dedication + Consistent Domination in Khabib well said, Every thing is Subjective

@Adam.Rushing

Жыл бұрын

@@mansamusa897 God Gifted Talent certainly. So that makes it GGT+coke+steroids+??? = JJ! 🤣🤣

@john-ch3en

Жыл бұрын

@@mansamusa897 Yeah God gifted him nice fingers to pull the opponents eyeballs

I agree Jon Jones is by far the greatest example in MMA. Won every fight clean while everyone was in steroids. Takes good care of his wife and children. And even prevented a premature baby from being born by crashing into the lady’s car.. Should win the Nobel Prize in my opinion

@spiscold50

Жыл бұрын

🤣‼️

@joserijal7520

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂 the sarcasm IS TOP NOTCH😂😂

@jbolin2248

Жыл бұрын

Love it! Lol

@henrychinaski5938

Жыл бұрын

Undefeated and undisputed

@BicoLov_IndiL

Жыл бұрын

You tried too hard

Jones doesn't train and still beats his opponents, Khabib tells his opponents for months exactly what he's gonna do and still makes it look like they never knew what was coming.

@TyroneBiggums789

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@rezwanislam8061

3 жыл бұрын

his opponents is 5 feet when he is 6 feet😄..that's why jon doesn’t need training

@berzerk6950

3 жыл бұрын

@@rezwanislam8061 LOL well I mean they're still in the same weight division, but yes Jon does have a height and reach advantage over most fighters

@rezwanislam8061

3 жыл бұрын

Same Weight doesn’t matter much bro...if he would've fought all the fights with the same height of opponents as him, he would've lost more than one Rayes fight was very disputed.. But khabib didn’t lost more than maybe 1 or 2 round in his entire 29...but jones lost many of them in his 26..

@berzerk6950

3 жыл бұрын

@@rezwanislam8061 that is a weird point to argue but I'm not comparing Khabib to be the inferior fighter to Jones here. Khabib easily the goat of his division

Screw the 29 wins. My man didnt even bleed in his whole career which is absolutely ridiculous!

@general.kenobi

3 жыл бұрын

@James Franko every pro fighter does weight cuts and you cant compare khabibs dominance with jones'. Khabib beat up the best of the division like they owed him money lol

@AhiskaTurk96

3 жыл бұрын

@James Franko He walks around the same weight as Tony does....? And when he cuts water weight it is usually 15 pounds...You guys really love making excuses constantly..Its quite pathetic.

@AhiskaTurk96

3 жыл бұрын

@James Franko Khabib walks at 190-195 max if he is not training...Tony walks between 185-200.....Explain that buddy...Would love to hear your response 😂

@thedarkknightisrisingup7640

3 жыл бұрын

@James Franko All the lightweights walk around at middleweight lmao

@AhiskaTurk96

3 жыл бұрын

@James Franko He hasn’t missed weight since he has gotten a nutritionist......Tony is still walking at 190 mate.....Stop lying ffs its quite pathetic. Khabib said it himself and Javier Mendez stated that Khabib walks at 85-87kg....

Khabib was also smart enough to not only go out on top, but early enough to avoid a lot of health problems later on.

@aka1721

2 жыл бұрын

He was going to retire on his 30th fight regardless. That's what his dad's plan always was.

@nicholasrendon2386

2 жыл бұрын

@@aka1721 no he said he didn’t want to fight without his father in his corner

@aka1721

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicholasrendon2386 i never said that though? I said he was going to retire the next fight anyway if he went for it.

@speakingfacts3931

2 жыл бұрын

Thats why he’s not the goat.

@generalknowledge8068

2 жыл бұрын

@@speakingfacts3931 because he didn't get brain damage

Watching this after Jones became the undisputed champion of the DomesticWeight division

@imbaroud5273

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, that's so fucked up edit: especially front of his child

@jeremyroberts8822

2 жыл бұрын

@@imbaroud5273 his child was also the one who asked the security guard to call the police which fucking breaks my heart man.

@TTSrBronson

2 жыл бұрын

Oj trying to take the title back

@lemongeezer1157

2 жыл бұрын

@@imbaroud5273 yeah fam

@Sombra_Azul_

2 жыл бұрын

XD

Dominick Cruz: “Think Conor is trying to tire Khabib out right now.” Joe Rogan “ I don’t think he’s trying to do anything he just getting smashed.”

@healthywealthy4620

3 жыл бұрын

Also Rogan: Rousey is a world class striker 😂

@SSJOMI

3 жыл бұрын

He can not make Khabib tired because he does not have any grappling or defensive skills. The lack of wrestling background got Conor smashed.

@bobby9458

3 жыл бұрын

@@healthywealthy4620 I think dom saying that was insinuating Conor couldn’t do anything, he just worded it that way, he’s trying to tire him out cause he doesn’t think he has any other options

@ahorse7884

2 жыл бұрын

Cruz’s point was just that if Conor is in a position where he is reletively safe (by repetively safe I mean covering up) and he has no where to go, then he might as well just try and tire Khabib out.

@dr.strange1945

2 жыл бұрын

@@ahorse7884 that doesn't mean he's trying to gas Khabib out, that means he's defending himself. Gasing out is something you do on purpose and I hardly believe that conor put himself into that situation so that Khabib gets tired. That's ridiculous

I’ve been hurt worse at my job at McDonald’s then Khabib has in his whole ufc career

@unknownass666

3 жыл бұрын

*MMA career*

@jacobbenham3521

3 жыл бұрын

Yea pretty much, he hasn’t ever really be hurt

@JM-cf9xy

3 жыл бұрын

You must get your ass kicked a lot at mcdonalds

@makhtar6029

3 жыл бұрын

@@unknownass666 it’s still UFC

@sayantandas2815

3 жыл бұрын

@@JM-cf9xy naah he is at the drive-in getting wrong fries thrown at him

How people forget Anderson Silva's reign is really beyond me. The highlight reel ko's over and over vs very good competition AND he wasn't afraid to fight at LHW. Making very good fighters look novice. Not to mention the short notice fight after his prime vs a prime DC who wanted absolutely nothing to do with Silva's standup. Also his recent success in a totally different discipline (boxing) vs a former legitimate prize fighter. Still holds the record for most consecutive title defenses and the manner in which he did it.

@coreygolphenee9633

2 жыл бұрын

@Amadeus its less damaging then someone like Jon Jones, a large portion of his prime was in the steroid era of MMA

@user-tl2cs6wv8b

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but Anderson Silva lost his shine as soon as he got knocked out by Weidman then lost again to him then went on to lose to Adesanya, DC, Cannonier, Bisping, Hall & even got popped for steroids after the Diaz fight. Finished his mma career with 11 losses. Khabib is perfect at 29-0, NEVER failed a drug test, NEVER lost a fight!

@dravendfr

2 жыл бұрын

@@coreygolphenee9633 Not only that, but Jones and his eye pokes not being called out is absurd.

@AC-mp7cx

2 жыл бұрын

yes a religious muslim is the greatest fighter in mma ever

@aka1721

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure about you but the majority of the mma community is disappointed with him after he popped for steroids. Also it of course makes you think that since most of his dominance was pre-USADA, it's easy to say that he was most probably roided during those times as well. It's also why people forget about GSP as well (the running away from big rig didn't do him any favors either).

I love when two knowledgeable wrestling/bjj people get together and break things down piece by piece like they did here.

"didn't train for a fight" would be the worst excuse ever for a professional fighter

@jasonluv2000

3 жыл бұрын

He has openly admitted that a big part of him not training for fights was to be able to tell himself if he were to lose that it was because he didn’t train

@abdellaali305

3 жыл бұрын

Jason Luv he must not train for fights no more then 😂

@fernandoaguero2814

3 жыл бұрын

But imagine to be able to do that and get away with it!

@dfeliz83

3 жыл бұрын

Mike tyson knows about that. All the major fights he lost he didnt train for or was under a bad influence whether it be the influence of a other person or a drug. If he ever lost his way... he never would have lost until much later in his career.

@RevenantCheetosx

3 жыл бұрын

Nate Diaz and McGregor was so close that Nate got 2m vs his 50k ish usual payouts

Dude what khabib did to Gaethje made him literally look invincible

@ramzichouk4080

3 жыл бұрын

the only fighter in MMA history to win all his fights without a single scratch on his face from the start to retirement no blood , no injury ,nothing !!! the only one to do it , the true GOAT KHabib the eagle

@amir-bz2he

3 жыл бұрын

gaethje did clip khabib tho

@ctc1996

3 жыл бұрын

Not really lol. Poirier and Eddie Alvarez starched gaethje and it’s a known fact Justin only a white belt in jiu jitsu. Lmfaooo he’s a c+ fighter at best. Conor would have rearranged his facial structure. People gas Justin cuz he beat up Tony who has zero boxing skills pretty much and uses a wing Chung dummy to train. Tony just stood there with no head movement and a granite chin. Justin is alright. He loses to poirier , mcgregor, Khabib , every time .

@jessiejoy1703

3 жыл бұрын

@@ctc1996 I’m sorry friend if you’re gonna sit there and claim that both Dustin porier (whom I like btw) and Eddie Alvarez are better than Tony Ferguson then ur gonna need some pretty impressive points to back that argument up lol. Ferguson is a one of a kind fighter and most ppl know that. Ppl were psyching up Gaethje because he slaughtered Ferguson, and no one has done that before, so yeah, that’s is something to be impressed about. And even before that all of his fights were always competitive and thrilling to watch honestly. He did lose. But he lost in good fights and learned from them. And finally the icing on top was Gaethjes world class wrestling. Khabib is a wrestler, he had never fought anyone in the UFC who was also a decorated wrestler. That is why the hype for Gaethje was real. And his ass beating from khabib says nothing about Gaethje and everything about khabib. Gaethje didn’t lose because he isn’t good. He lost because khabib is practically indestructible. Gaethje gave him some staggeringly hard hits and khabib brushed them off like it was nothing. And then he outclassed a world class wrestler in seconds. The dude is next fucking level. I don’t I know of anyone who could beat him. But I would’ve loved to see Ferguson get that chance too.

@ctc1996

3 жыл бұрын

@@jessiejoy1703 “people were hyping Justin bc he slaughtered gaethje which never been done before” um yes it had been done before. Michael Johnson beat Tony already. Listen dude I love Tony but boxing and straight up hand to hand is not his best attributes and that’s no secret. He got dropped by lando venatta and Anthony pettis.

“Not a sport on who gets cut most or” it’s the Diaz bros. They would win that😂

I believe that if Khabib had not retired, he would have continued to dominate his division and defeat any fighter who challenged him for many years to come, as he had already proven his abilities in his impressive undefeated record. This was also evident in the recent performance of Islam Makhachev, who showed his strength by defeating Oliveira, a highly hyped fighter at the time.

@marcorosas7614

10 ай бұрын

Exactly, the new contendants for the title, Oliveira or Chandler, would be defetead by khabib.

@bengough6772

9 ай бұрын

Yeah lol people complain he didn't beat enough top guys... Who was left? Charles? After what Islam did I believe Khabib does similar... Tony... Well after gaetjhe Tony doesn't look so good so khabib wins... And then? Chandler? Doubt Khabib woukd have had an issue... So why do we doubt he's one of the greatest

@notpaper-cr6ni

8 ай бұрын

Not exactly. While khabib may have had more in him when he retired but not enough to gap jones. Jones has shown a very diverse style and he doesn’t just fight the best strikers. He fights the best. Jon is on a whole different level. In conclusion Jon bones is the best. Khabib could have gotten close if he didn’t retire.

@dannywhite7786

8 ай бұрын

Nah buddy shoulda coulda woulda. I believe Khabib was getting knocked tf out in his next fight by guys who actually present the threat of grappling also. HE DIDNT FIGHT OLIVEIRA CHANDLER OR DARIUSH. You don’t just give him those wins. Ducked Tony his whole career

@jaelonwillis2336

8 ай бұрын

@@bengough6772it really doesnt matter though, he retired early so it is all just speculation. It means as much as me saying “Khabib would have been the greatest gladiator alive if he was Roman”. Meanwhile we can prove Jons, GSP, and Andersons dominance. He just didnt prove himself, especially with those dozens of wins he got in those weird two round russian mma matches against cab drivers and streetsweepers. I like Khabib but he is always going to be the biggest “what if”. And dont sleep on Chandler and Oliveira, those dudes probably have the most threatening atylistic matchups for a wrestler like khabib. Chandler never fails to keep the fight standing with his insane explosive wrestling and striking, and oliveira has proven he can submit just about anyone from anywhere. Khabib is definetely a different beast but I believe they had a better chance than most people let on.

The goat is reserved for Artem Lobov. 30 men have tried, only 15 have succeeded.

@kaihamasaki9307

3 жыл бұрын

LOL

@oneplus113T

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@aaa84gt

3 жыл бұрын

👏

@martinjr7534

3 жыл бұрын

Dead

@JasonSeesBandMusic

3 жыл бұрын

😂

Khabib: My toe might be broken but my mind is not. Respect

@sgorgardr227

3 жыл бұрын

It was too weeks before the fight, Geez.

@Shadow-kf2ko

3 жыл бұрын

Mctapper : My foot was blame or something like this

@iwantsexseemyvideo33

3 жыл бұрын

Much

@_don206

3 жыл бұрын

@shield&sword peace no his foot was blame or something like this

@recipoldinasty

3 жыл бұрын

Cringe

That was an incredible breakdown of the submission by Luke. Very good idea.

I'm an extreme MMA Casual, but I swear this is the first sport I've seen where a guy got caught cheating but a large contingent of the fanbase still puts him in the GOAT category. Crazy stuff

@FraudChickn

Жыл бұрын

Usada changed rule, he no longer has failed test, Casual.

@Shawn-tf4tm

Жыл бұрын

@@FraudChickn Wrong that's alraedy been disproven. Jon is a cheater, PED's abuser.

@migueljuarez6788

Жыл бұрын

​@@FraudChickn He still admitted to purposely and consistently poking people in the eye. Plus, Usada doesn't have a good track record lol

@FraudChickn

Жыл бұрын

@@migueljuarez6788 khabib pulled out repeatedly, used IV, never moved up weight, and wanted to fight GSP in lightweight lol.

@migueljuarez6788

Жыл бұрын

@@FraudChickn Why are you talking about Khabib when I'm talking about Jones?

Recency bias is a very good point, I really like what GSP said about the GOATs, when Silva was going through the MW division he was the GOAT, when Jones beat DC in the rematch he was the GOAT, and now that Khabib has retired on top he's the GOAT.

@arturbondarenco2155

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone and their mother said GSP was Goat when he beat Bisping.

@anomalocaris7869

3 жыл бұрын

How the fuck can you compare fighters of different weight division

@SumtingWong343

3 жыл бұрын

@@anomalocaris7869 you can... just gotta look at the division talent and how the fighter dominated is division or multiple. Khabib as DOMINATED is division but never went up or down. But he probably lost 1 or 2 rounds in is whole career. Jon Jones is probably most accomplished but is character issues keeps him away from the goat debate IMO. Silva in is prime was unstoppable... but kept fighting past is prime and lost a lot since. GSP is the OG goat, the only flaw in is career was that hendricks fight but Hendricks was juiced the fuck up. Hendricks never was the same since USADA. GsP than cameback after a few years and won the championship in a division above... If Jones goes a division above and wins, he will be greatest no doubt

@123arskas

3 жыл бұрын

@@anomalocaris7869 Thats what P4P ranking is for. It does a subjective comparison among all weight classes

@mullahgaming9446

3 жыл бұрын

@@SumtingWong343 you forgot to mention jones did PEDs against old fighters

ali: what's my name ?! khabib: let's talk now ! legends !

@nosound819

3 жыл бұрын

Khabib: send location!

@ahmedprince1854

3 жыл бұрын

Copy cat

@Marco-er4ql

3 жыл бұрын

Khabib “I will smash your boi” Nurmagomedov

@user-iw4pi7ug2r

3 жыл бұрын

GOAT 🔥

@davidpinnock877

3 жыл бұрын

Some of my favorite one liners

Khabib is not only undefeated but never bled! Almost everyone I know has bled and no one in mma is not only undefeated but has also never bled, no one as far as I know, except Khabib. I have gotten more hurt by myself, tripping or being clumsy, than khabib has in his career.

@civilwarwasaninsidejob7405

2 жыл бұрын

Never bleeding has nothing to do with whose the greatest of all time. You can tell who all the new age MMA fans are. Most have never watched a fight pre 2015. Khabib is in the conversation, but I'll take GSP's and Jon Jones resumes. Also, both Jones and GSP have moved weight classes and didn't suffer any drop in performance. Jones was banging coke lines and partying 6 nights a week, while still beating greats.

@jollyface5986

2 жыл бұрын

@@civilwarwasaninsidejob7405 idk how snorting coke makes you the greatest of all time? Like cocaine doesn’t worsen your performance much, what a stupid ass argument

@Matt-cr4vv

2 жыл бұрын

@@civilwarwasaninsidejob7405 I get what you're saying. I think recents are judging decision Jon Jones. They don't recall Jons days of nobody having a chance. If Jon had taken things as serious as a Khabib does who even knows what he would've done.

@Matt-cr4vv

2 жыл бұрын

@@jollyface5986 Less that is lessens performance but rather he was partying when somebody else would be training. He was/is that good that he can do shit like that and still never truly lose in his career. It makes you wonder what his performances would have been/be if he had a Khabib work ethic.

@hhiippiittyy

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe if it was bare knuckle Khabib woulda had bloody fists...

2:22 Good point, Khabib is so good he can actually decide how to win.

@AC-mp7cx

2 жыл бұрын

yes a religious muslim is the greatest fighter in mma ever

@aka1721

2 жыл бұрын

@@AC-mp7cx dude the mma community doesn't care what religion or nationality a fighter has.

@theboredman1450

2 жыл бұрын

@@AC-mp7cx really and truly, his religion is completely irrelevant in the context of mma

@AC-mp7cx

2 жыл бұрын

@@aka1721 alot of racist people do. so they're mad that a Muslim is the goat, of two combat sports boxing and mma

@AC-mp7cx

2 жыл бұрын

@@theboredman1450it matters, it drives him in every way

One day we’ll tell a story of a wrestling guy from a mountain who beat the world best fighters, stay unbeaten and returned to his village to serve his mother. A story that looks like it was ripped straight out of the pages of a fairytale book, and had it not been for the videos proving it, people would have not believed it.

@NickyTmathew

3 жыл бұрын

Except Khabib will come back. Then what happens to your fairytale bro?

@utkarshsarkar839

3 жыл бұрын

@@NickyTmathew except that'll make it that much better, coming back to finish his father's dream of 30-0, retire and start his own gyms and be in corner of his friends he trained with, Umar, Islam etc

@ThePurestOnes

3 жыл бұрын

Made me shed a tear

@CoyoteGonzalez7

3 жыл бұрын

@Diane Ghazaryan Conor was well past his prime? he was 30-31 years old...wouldn't call that past his prime

@ivartorr1469

3 жыл бұрын

bear wrestling? chill out, he wrestle a chained cub that was playing wtih him - stop hyping this fact up

GOAT is out of the conversation in terms of legacy when you have PED , steroids tarnishing your wins.

@Viwer_____

3 жыл бұрын

youre high if you think a majority of athletes arent using PEDs especially today

@jackyoung2576

3 жыл бұрын

You mean EVERYBODY in the UFc

@Pasicho

3 жыл бұрын

@@Viwer_____ a lot of fighters get caught more than once. GSP and Khabib have been found to be clean all throughout. coincidently those 2 is the argument. With Jones an easy negatition is PEDs.

@_honestly_7015

3 жыл бұрын

Wrong

@aps1s

3 жыл бұрын

Khabib is also cool with people getting theyr heads cut of, so yeah therese that

5:51 Smart insight here by Luke into the situation, he was able to accurately predict the future about Jones' eventual transition to hw and how many would hail Jones as the ud goat if he won his hw fight Fast forward a couple years after this interview and the gane fight takes place, and exactly what he predicted happened, Luke's a smart guy, I definitely respect his mind

Thats what i love about khabib like with mcgregor, he didnt run his mouth. He just went in and proved himself. Beautiful. Sportmanship outclasses any other mentality because you arent going in to just win, you are going in to be strategically intelligent with each move, being all around. You cant come in with one mind mentality and expect to be the best, you have to structure yourself to be all around, heart, soul, physicality and body.

@davideatherly4231

2 жыл бұрын

That all sounds great except he jumped the cage and created one of the biggest black eyes ever in ufc.

@cartoonsinhindi1023

2 жыл бұрын

@@davideatherly4231 that was super necessary......before that fight....dana and conor planned the bus attack for promotion....watch khabib's interview...he said it was a inside job.... that's why what khabib did after fight was super necessary

@AC-mp7cx

2 жыл бұрын

yes a religious muslim is the greatest fighter in mma ever

@coleworld5010

2 жыл бұрын

@@cartoonsinhindi1023 lol inside job? What a dork. The reason Conor did that was because khabib and his boys jumped one of Conor’s friends and he jumped on a plane with 20 goons the moment he found out. Then the bus attack happened.

@coleworld5010

2 жыл бұрын

@@AC-mp7cx Jon Jones is not Muslim my friend.

Jon Jones: “I once hid under the octagon to avoid a PED rest” Also Jon Jones: “I’m the greatest of all time! Khabib is a bum”

@SAM-ru4vx

3 жыл бұрын

Also 🔫 NO TRESPASSING 🏡. Dont even try to sell me crap I dont want 🗡🔨⚒⛏ Jon hates door to door salesmen

@eireabu9486

3 жыл бұрын

@Call me Big dick Rick Jones cheated multiple times dont compare him to Khabib or GSP

@Youtubeguy368

3 жыл бұрын

I get you’d had to get a bad joke off but he didn’t say he was avoiding a ped test it was for weed

@sflaw5581

3 жыл бұрын

@@KZreadguy368 dana said that they don't test for weed...

@iwantsexseemyvideo33

3 жыл бұрын

Serving

Jon: I sacrificed a lot of blood to reach where I am. Khabib: Exactly my point, I never bled.

@Whobilation

3 жыл бұрын

Wat?

@toxicmasculine77

3 жыл бұрын

@@Whobilation Jon Jones = 🥊🥊🤕🏆 Khabib = 🥊🥊😁🏆

@SWard-oe8oj

3 жыл бұрын

this is the most retarded thing ive read today

@aculite2163

3 жыл бұрын

@@SWard-oe8oj weak sentence framing. But really a great point.

@aculite2163

3 жыл бұрын

@@JG-ge3ui yeah and won by cheating. 💉💉💉 Remember? And his last 3 fight? All were UD's dude just somehow won. If his physical capabilities were not enhanced then maybe things could have been diff. But it ain't same with gsp and KN.

KHABIB! He was undefeated, kept his sht together, no drug issues…. Tag dolls everyone

@ayrtoncordeiro3898

2 жыл бұрын

Jon jones , youngest ever champ , 5 former champs , 1 former double champ, 6 Hall of famers , most title defences , fought 2 fights in one month and one of those fights was for his first title shot . Jones has more title fights then khabib has in the ufc . Khabib has 5 fights in the top 10 , RDA that lost to cowboy in a grappling match , Michael Johnson a known loser same with barboza , Al iaquinta a last minute replacement , a conor out for 2 years and drunk on whiskey . His only legit fights were dustin and justin . His not the goat. Gsp dominated the ww division and after years off the sport went up to middle weight and beat the champ , Henry cejudo best DJ , TJ , Cruz , Marlon and is a double champ , usman beat masvidal twice , colby , tyron woodley, Gilbert burns , RDA , Demian maia , Leon Edwards is on the way to pass khabib if not already same with Israel best vettori , Brunson , kelvin gastelum , whitteker , Yoel and Paulo Costa. . There's amanda nunes the only fighter to defend two belts beat germaine de randamine twice , valentina twice , ronda , Holly Holmes, misha , cyborg. Daniel comier beat Anthony Johnson twice , Gustafsson , Anderson Silva , Dan Henderson , went up in weight best the most successful heavyweight stipe and Derrick lewis .

@googlebanmetoomuch2601

2 жыл бұрын

Khabib is no doubt the LW 🐐. Jones is the MMA 🐐

@snakehddjj6103

2 жыл бұрын

Do you not think the names on Khabib’s record tarnished his legacy abit? He was fighting Binman till like 18-0

@SpinningbacKFisT

2 жыл бұрын

@@ayrtoncordeiro3898 see my top comment. Jones is a POS and wasn't nearly as dominant as Khabib.

@SpinningbacKFisT

2 жыл бұрын

@@ayrtoncordeiro3898 he is a proven cheater. Like my man said. Debate over. Not to mention he's seriously struggled in some fights. Almost got tapped by Vitor, his fights with Reyes and Gus could have gone either way he got beat up badly in both of those against guys that went on to get viciously knocked out afterwards. Khabib has made every opponent look amateur. Also, dude fought some killers in UFC. Tf you talking about? Not to mention how much better of a person he is than Jones. The coke head cheat who drives drunk, plows into pregnant ladies and tries to flee the scene and acts like a delinquent thug towards law enforcement. A proven liar with a narcissist personality. Imo it's not even a debate and this is coming from a guy who ALWAYS sides/cheers the American over Russian fighters. I refuse to deny reality. Khabib is hands down the fkng goat. Point blank period....

Who is this guy and why have I never seen him before. So knowledgeable. Joe has that network. Seems like every friend and acquaintance this guy has is adding value to his life. Wish I had this ability to choose my friends so wisely. Respect.

You also forgot to say that khabib was THAT dominant against gaethje with a broken foot and his coach said he didn't train for like 3 weeks during camp because he was so sick

@iwantsexseemyvideo33

3 жыл бұрын

Chubb

@recipoldinasty

3 жыл бұрын

Shut up “mohamed” thats fake news

@samtaylor7279

3 жыл бұрын

@@recipoldinasty dayum son, khabib really in your head huh, livin rent free etc

@joemama8243

3 жыл бұрын

Khabib isnt even close to being the goat lol 3 tittle defense is nothing he hasn't even surpassed mighty mouse in goat list

@Badass1974

3 жыл бұрын

@@joemama8243 Randy C. 2 division champ. 5 time UFC champ. He's p4p the best imo

When it comes to intoxicated driving Jones is the GOAT.

@tuckermccabe9471

3 жыл бұрын

Justin said that he was the best at making car crashes. Bro you aint got shit on jon

@wynnefella

3 жыл бұрын

Are you intoxicateddd right nowww - gsp

@ovd1221

3 жыл бұрын

And go on talk about his daughter condition with the policeman 😅

Jones is out of the conversation now, he had his chance to be the GOAT, and decided to cheat. GSP is IMO the GOAT of the UFC w/ Khabib being on his tail.

@ajosh4430

2 жыл бұрын

JON JONES IS THE GOAT he didn’t even train for some fights and still managed to ko the best in the world out. DONT JUST PUT THE MANS CONS UP THERE U CAN TAKE A GUY WITH A UNDEFEATED RECORD OFF THE GOAT CONVERSATION

@PowerShellNoob

2 жыл бұрын

@@ajosh4430 if you were proven to be on steroids or drugs during a fight or leading up to a fight, your record is invalid. Who’s to say most of his fights weren’t dosed? Look at TJ Dillashaw, the only reason he had such good endurance in most fights was because of a drug.

@kylleepstein6954

2 жыл бұрын

@@PowerShellNoob Irrelevant to his resume. I hate jon and think peds steal his goat, but anderson popped too he is a goat. Khabib is 13-0 and 3 defenses. Not goat numbers

@OriginalNutta

2 жыл бұрын

@@kylleepstein6954what’s worse getting caught for drugs or cleaning out a division and retiring who’s to say JJ wasn’t on drugs during his best performances which invalidates or doubts his whole career but for khabib to never get cut bruised or bleed in 13 ufc fights is craZy and never lose a round that’s goat like behaviour

@daniela.t.thomas14

2 жыл бұрын

You mean the fighter that rubbed Vaseline mid fight on his body vs a bjj black belt specialist, or retired when usada became mandatory.

I love Khabib, he beats great fighters but Jon has beat legends & undisputed future hall of famers or guys with great records up til their fight. The run up before his title fight against Shogun, not counting his journeyman fights, his opponents with the worst records were Vera @11-4, Hamill @ 6-2, Bader 12-0, Bonnar 12-4. After those, he tore thru the legends...

@ElNiNjA246

Жыл бұрын

i just dont get how his name can come up at all when hes a proven cheat, doesnt that put into question his whole career? to me it makes his entire career null and void

@zeflr122

Жыл бұрын

@@ElNiNjA246 hes not a proven cheat

@toptiertech7291

Жыл бұрын

@@ElNiNjA246 well how many fights did he test positive for?

@ABeastGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@toptiertech7291 and on top of that new usada rules clear him. and also everyone is on gear some just dont get caught.. and even if you say that.. USADA's New rules would have cleared him.. He also beat vitor belfort who was on steroids

@omarhasan03

11 ай бұрын

​@@ABeastGamingit's awful how everyone defends a known cheater. At any rate, Khabib was unquestionably not on anything. So that would make his accomplishments even more impressive considering his opposition, according to you, was most likely on stuff. I can't take Jones seriously because he cheated. And I can't understand why even before the new USADA rules, it STILL wasn't brought up. The media is protecting Jones and that's not okay.

The goat doesn’t hide under the octagon at the gym for 8 hours to avoid a drug test

@MH-fm8fd

3 жыл бұрын

@shane Nicholas he used PEDs, aint the better fighter either🤷

@nickg2366

3 жыл бұрын

@shane Nicholas no, in and out of the ring. A cheater can NEVER be the GOAT.

@JohnDoe-ql9pf

3 жыл бұрын

@shane Nicholas does taking Ped matter to you?

@sflaw5581

3 жыл бұрын

​@shane Nicholas if the best fighter can be a cheater and use PEDs, then yea bones can be consider the best.

@steveshikadance

3 жыл бұрын

@shane Nicholas Khabib never been cut, bled or been hurt, has dominated while Jones was in close fights with all of Gustafsson, Reyes and Santos

Khabib takes a hundred leg kick hes an absolute humble animal that batters everyone

@uphill248

3 жыл бұрын

Keep kicking the bear you’re just going to make him madder.

@findingmyway93

3 жыл бұрын

He has zero stand up game

@NecroxProduction

3 жыл бұрын

Habib is not so humble when it comes to islam. When those terrorists beheaded people in France he didn't say one word about it, but he did say that Macron must be punished for saying "bAd WoRds" about islam.

@showkatali4896

3 жыл бұрын

Zzz Kkk nah that's Nate diaz

@alixus10

3 жыл бұрын

@@findingmyway93 Khabib has extremely good defensive stand up. His offensive stand up needs work but it is very good for its intended purpose of pushing fighters back and opening up the takedown.

Jon jones is without a doubt a Great Fighter, but as he said Khabib was just flawless... i mean i just recently had my Khabib Full Story dose were i rewatched his start and end of his fighting carrer and there is no other word as Flawless... he is simply a different Animal, he fought against the Top Fighters and made it look like it was nothing! He dominated every round, he is respectful and humble. Befor Khabib i always hated it when Fighters started Grappling and Submissions, but seeing him do it, was like a work of Art, just like his Punches and Kicks and now i wish for that and hope to see another artist at work. Khabib was for me the first Fighter who was perfectly balanced and was not only great in all aspects, it also looked great, from Grappling to Hand to Feet Combat, Great intuition, huge Stamina and endurance, i mean he never sat down after each round against Mcregor, he escaped a Guillotine choke just to Submission Poirier seconds after...thats crazy! Khabib is still the current Goat for me until someone else comes who exceeds those feats, but right now, to me that person has yet to come.

@notpaper-cr6ni

8 ай бұрын

Jones has done it at heavyweight as well. He’s shown to be dominant on his feet, on the ground, and he did this against dudes jacked up on steroids and he wasn’t always at his best. Jones just does to much.

@demarcuslewis1417

4 ай бұрын

No way you complimented khabibs striking dude was pretty bad at that. He had a padded record in his early stage of his career and he only fought like 4 good opponents all being strikers. “That person is yet to come” Jon been there bruh

@brucedoyle4055

4 ай бұрын

What i forget to mention on why Khabib still is the Goat and has a Flawless carrer to me, is his Character itself, he has the Character and Charisma of a Champion, he has the mentality and discipline to be a Champion, his humbleness and his wisdom, he is a man focus and sheer will, he is a true Role model for the People. I base a Champion a Goat in all their aspects, and if that person can make me start thinking after he said something wise. Thats something i never had of any ufc fighter and jones is far from it, they all lets say simple. When you become a Goat you become a role model, and all other fighters are the same when it comes to discipline and lifestyle, they were normal Guys like you and me doing Party and relax after a Fight, but not Khabib, and i admire extraordinary people.

This conversation is great and it's based on Luke's child like enthusiasm for the fight game.

"No one as FLAWLESS as KHABIB." Period.

@collingoldfrey9728

3 жыл бұрын

false

@yungmaac8735

3 жыл бұрын

Adesanya

@sufiyanrafique251

3 жыл бұрын

@@yungmaac8735 i thought he lost to romero

@Cafe-pu9lw

3 жыл бұрын

Period!

@davidboros968

3 жыл бұрын

Tibau🤔 Jones never miss weight .🤔 Khabib never fight vs BJJ specialist like Tony. Khabib fear to go his own weightclass he need to do abnormal weightcut . Jones still flawless illegal tec is just a joke.

Gsp: khabib is the greatest. Khabib: gsp is the greatest Silva: khabib is the greatest Jon: My 15 vs your guy 4.

@hadan8792

3 жыл бұрын

Says it all. Jon is a bum. A juiced one

@anomalocaris7869

3 жыл бұрын

Dude you're straight up lying. Silva never said Khabib was the greatest, he said he's his favorite fighter to watch. He LITERALLY said GSP is the greatest.

@raminpcccq

3 жыл бұрын

Well John was p4p #1 for a long time and just lost it. Give him a break .

@raees8678

3 жыл бұрын

@@raminpcccq while on the roids

@chaudhry6769

3 жыл бұрын

Jon Jones is insecure. Khabib is the G.O.A.T. Hope Khabib vs GSP happens with the blessings of Khabib's mother. InshAllah

Both are great but the way khabib choked out Connor was hilarious 😆

@netero6751

Жыл бұрын

Conor pieced him up a bit in round three though

@mirzadagrinch69

Жыл бұрын

With soft and weak punches that were supposedly called strikes. Ask any mma expert they will say that khabib should’ve won that round

@TheCj5651

Жыл бұрын

@@mirzadagrinch69 I guess your an expert huh

@amado4249

Жыл бұрын

Chocked?

So on technical n performance issues it’s a stalemate but outside the octagon we gotta admit Khabib is the best example for his fans

I really like Luke’s breakdown of how Khabib got to submitting Justin. Very technical breakdown and just went to show how great the finish was 👌

There is no chance he lost the first round against Justin...there was an argument up until the take down and sub attempt

@iwantsexseemyvideo33

3 жыл бұрын

Fun

@brittanym2080

3 жыл бұрын

Have you seen this clip of Joe’s guest telling him the new studio is awful?! kzread.info/dash/bejne/k4Bm3NKkoLrfkqQ.html 🔥

@crowns9966

3 жыл бұрын

I can understand that Justin landed some shots but Khabib put the pressure in that round and also took him down I just dont see how Justin got it, that said I dont know why it matters that much since Khabib finished him with a beautiful triangle

@maxzak5310

3 жыл бұрын

yeah but 2 judges gave the first round to justin , unbelievable

@stevus23

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

As a person and a fighter in both avenues KHABIBs a role model and real GOAT in true sense

@silkyjohnson7599

Жыл бұрын

😂

@kishorerocky6099

Жыл бұрын

Muslim love muslim

@STiergoofball

11 ай бұрын

Name says you are a Muslim Opinion biased

@notpaper-cr6ni

8 ай бұрын

Is that cope for him not being the goat in mma?

@MNSTRShams

5 ай бұрын

​@kishorerocky6099 undont have to be Muslim to see Khabib is a better role model then Jones

luke thomas explaining khabib’s back take on gaethje was superb….

Not ONCE do these guys bring up the performance enhancers that Jones used. Automatically disqualifies him as the GOAT

@nicholasgordon2158

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly and still baffled how much they are favouring Jones over Khabib even without roids!

@taylormichaelholt

3 жыл бұрын

As a baseball purist, you’re right. Wow, that sucks. What drugs did he do? What’s the whole true story?

@wolfracing9504

3 жыл бұрын

Goat police lmao

@kingjoker8196

3 жыл бұрын

Yall try to discredit him for doing shit outside the ring not in the ring

@psy9199

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone use drug these day

The fact that neither one of them brought up the PED record on Jon surprises me. Even Jon's earlier victories are now questionable since USADA wasn't in the picture than

@iwantsexseemyvideo1512

3 жыл бұрын

🛑🟥

@Negro.spiritual

3 жыл бұрын

You think none of Jones opponents were juiced when they fought Jones ? Wht abt vitor and Jones smashes him nobody argues that anderson Silva was one of the greatest middle weights of all time and he popped when he beat nick just say you hate Jones any non bias person knows Jones accomplishments dwarfs khabib it’s not a think about question

@shababchy

3 жыл бұрын

@@Negro.spiritual Nobody is calling Silva the goat either because of the same shit. We don't know if Jones opponents took PED either, EVEN if they did it don't matter. The fact remains Jon did and got caught multiple times once USADA came into picture. I don't hate Jon. He clearly has the best resume that I don't think anyone will ever top. But it's not a clean resume. So he needs to step out of the goat picture.

@palestineadesanya1996

3 жыл бұрын

@Jay Theboss yup Jon Jones is GOAT- Greatest Of Abusing Turinabol.

@mlgpubeboyx9848

3 жыл бұрын

Tainted supplement

Never tested positive for PEDs ✔ Has fewer controversies ✔ Has fewer questionable victories✔ It's simple, Khabib is the GOAT

@ironmar

2 жыл бұрын

We talk in the octogone wtf you saying thing than is not in the octogone

In a game of blood, we witnessed a man that never bled

No recent bias, just facts.. Khabib dominated some of the best mixed martial artists in the sport, in the toughest weight division. He has never tested positive for any performance enhancing drugs. Not only is he one of the most skilled grappler, mixed martial artists, he is an honorable man with respect and dignity.

@lenoxhamese4610

3 жыл бұрын

The G.O.A.T. with four title defenses? Joke!

@JackRafael

3 жыл бұрын

@@lenoxhamese4610 your goat used steroids lol. Debate over

@yourelawyered

3 жыл бұрын

What about his defense of Islamist terrorism in France?

@bablutu

3 жыл бұрын

It's not the toughest weight division, that's some promoting bullshit, the toughest is the heavyweight.

@JackRafael

3 жыл бұрын

@@yourelawyered what did he say then?

*Justin:* "I'm gonna break his leg till he can't walk" *Khabib the entire fight:* "Let's walk now"

@BigRamen

3 жыл бұрын

Justin: im gonna take khabibs soul, im gonna show him how to bleed, im gonna tko him bla bla bla Khabib: look whos talking

@sheikhfahad2436

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha... The best ever

@PeterGriffingigity

3 жыл бұрын

@@sheikhfahad2436 Thanks

@aldyhermawan9628

3 жыл бұрын

🤣

Khabib never losed a round never bleed undisputed undefeated champion of the world 🌎 khabib the eagle 🦅

Jones is obviously highly skilled but I think what helped him gain a huge advantage over almost all opponents was his body frame. A combination of his height and possessing one of the longest reach in UFC. Even with the same weight, he's naturally much bigger than most people he faced. Jones snuggled most with opponents of similar body types like Dominick and Gus. Would be very interesting to see how he performs at heavyweight.

@Jordidwaard

Жыл бұрын

I honestly feel like jones' performance at heavyweight will decide this conversation. If he actually manages to outclass either stipe or ngannou he will have achieved too much.

@Amaarc77

Жыл бұрын

@@Jordidwaard baddest man on the planet now 🐐

@Jordidwaard

Жыл бұрын

@@Amaarc77 Baddest man of all time yessir

@ABeastGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@Jordidwaard him beating ciryl gane in under 1 round is absolutely amazing.. Jones stopped fighting for 3 years moved up a weight class. fought someone who is probably bigger and a bit stronger than him. and still beat him so easily.. to the point that people are saying ciryl took a dive

@Jordidwaard

Жыл бұрын

@@ABeastGaming and yet people still won’t acknowledge his greatness. Its insane.

Khabib has never even came close to losing. Jones has. Jones has the better resume but no one has ever dominated the opposition the way Khabib has.

@sangamb8429

3 жыл бұрын

For that you have to fight upto age of 36 , jon jones is 36 still fighting and he became ufc champion at the age of 19, kjabib would have faced same situation if did fight at the age of 36

@MrShiro82

3 жыл бұрын

@@sangamb8429 jones is 33 not 36

@ramoniglesiasdiaz3164

3 жыл бұрын

Jones has been in trouble in arm bar one time Khabib was rocked by michael johnson early Jones 11 title defences khabib 3 Its not even close octagon wise

@sangamb8429

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrShiro82 my bad😂😂 jj is 33

@MrShiro82

3 жыл бұрын

@@ramoniglesiasdiaz3164 would hardly call it rocked. and anyway, jones took steroids and has been in trouble more times than khabib. he also has more controversial decisions than khabib

GSP! Avenged his only 2 losses DOMINANTLY. Cleared out the entire welterweight division, then MOVED UP and won the Middleweight title against Bisping after 4 years out. GOAT.

@o.w.140

3 жыл бұрын

Someone had to say it

@turbofister6000

3 жыл бұрын

Still lost though, Khabib didnt.

@williamswiniuch7527

3 жыл бұрын

@@turbofister6000 only lost two rounds and never bled

@ffsnick9853

3 жыл бұрын

@MambaMMA 24.2 GSP was advocating for doping tests for UFC fighters for years before USADA was brought in and even originally wanted much tougher and thorough testing than what USADA offers so how was he “running” from them exactly? Stop trying to slander one of the GOATS for no reason

@roadstar12439

3 жыл бұрын

Johnny Hendricks fight???

Joe doesn't take into account the fact that during the savage phase, Jon was enhanced

@kowsarahmed7782

2 жыл бұрын

There is no way you win an MMA fight without training camp and doing coke unless, of course, you're juiced up.

@petermisberg732

2 жыл бұрын

@@kowsarahmed7782 do you know That from your own mma experience?

Idk why everyone keeps forgetting GSP

@hakimdarroudi7428

2 жыл бұрын

Some controversial victories. A few actually. And 2 losses. Cant put him next to jones and khabib.

@sammi6614

2 жыл бұрын

@@hakimdarroudi7428 gsp is 100% the goat. He dominated the two people he lost to. Khabib hasn’t go the better resume than him either yes he’s more dominant but has only 3 title defences. Jon Jones is a cheater and has also got a couple fights that he arguably lost

@knurdlove5291

2 жыл бұрын

Khabib always mention GSP greatness

@jean-christopherouleau1626

2 жыл бұрын

@@hakimdarroudi7428 only Hendrix was controversial, he won against Penn in the rematch without any doubt. Jones is sitting on a lot of split decisions... (with PeDs)

@hakimdarroudi7428

2 жыл бұрын

@@jean-christopherouleau1626 Penn first fight... khabib has arguably never lost a round in a bad way. Gsp got destroyed by serra and Hendricks (the cheater) banged him... gsp in the top but not the goat

My question is, why do we crucify guys like Tj Dillashaw and TRT Vitor for PEDs, but so often it gets minimized or avoided in the goat conversation with Jon Jones?

@riptrojans7237

3 жыл бұрын

Tbf trt vitor had as much juice in him as a caprisun. He's a bit of an outlier.

@Underratedmen

3 жыл бұрын

@@riptrojans7237 as soon as USADA got involved Jon got popped. For all we know he’s been juiced to the gills from the beginning.

@Jrock420blam

3 жыл бұрын

well i know people hate the chemistry involved but Dillashaw and Vitro were red red red hot while Jon Jones was right at the minimum threshold so if he was using we will never know because it falls withing the tainted supplement realm.

@Underratedmen

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jrock420blam not the first time when he popped against DC.

@Jrock420blam

3 жыл бұрын

@@Underratedmen yes, specially the first time is the one im referring to. It was classic tainted supplement, the 2nd time of micro levels is what draws suspicion because he should have known better if it was tainted coke or supplements and he still popped

No drugs,no cuts, no contests, 1 round and a close one, no car accident, The 🐐

@Cts_99

3 жыл бұрын

Missed weight, pull out, injury prone. Fought a bum to win his first title

@afgankidd00

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cts_99 yet that "bum" did better than Conor, Dustin or Gaethje hmm

@xrexi4366

3 жыл бұрын

@@afgankidd00 no? The only rounds khabib lost were against conor and Justin

@afgankidd00

3 жыл бұрын

@@xrexi4366 Conor won that round on the judges score cards yes that's a fact but rewatch that round again. The amount of times conor cheated and didn't get called out for it is ridiculous. As far as that Justin round goes, c'mon, are we really holding these judges scorecards as the end all be all? How many ridiculous decisions have we seen by these judges. Rewatch Khabib v. Justin round 1 again and tell me if you truly believe Justin won the round

@xrexi4366

3 жыл бұрын

@@afgankidd00 tf you mean cheated? Khabib does steroids if anyone cheats he does

A decent and humble person who left his place clean, not like some clowns

5:30, great analysis, exactly what he said happened

I don't understand how this is a discussion. HE'S A PROVEN CHEAT ! Jones and his fans don't seem to realise how bad that is. He shouldn't even be allowed in the sport let alone be the regarded as one of the best.

@thoughtsofalostoneofalosto2591

3 жыл бұрын

Actually they cleared him of any cheating.

@iwantsexseemyvideo33

3 жыл бұрын

Ski-doo

@Zero-io4tv

3 жыл бұрын

Beef testosterone will always be beyond those mortals.

@backbone93

3 жыл бұрын

Youre a hater

@mannykelevra

3 жыл бұрын

I agree to a degree.... I think there’s a lot of PEDs in MMA, just like Nick said. With that being said I think PEDs help, but you can’t take away wrestling pedigree, physical attitudes like height, and reach, AND fight IQ

It’s gotta be khabib. He’s completely dominated EVERYONE in his path and there have been no drug use or drama

@ps9501

3 жыл бұрын

Khabib has just 3 title defenses against primary strikers. Jon has more damn title fights than Khabib has even fights inside the UFC. Khabib was 15-0 and fought guy with 0-0 record, so his whole pre UFC is extremely padded.

@showkatali4896

3 жыл бұрын

Neil Old and that fight is ??

@aunmaqsood3129

3 жыл бұрын

@James Matthews Nah if he dropped to lightweight at 155 definitely not, you high? With peds maybe, but again that's why he ain't the goat. I don't see Messi and Ronaldo needing to use any performance-enhancing drugs to be GOATS, apparently, this is only a MMA thing.

@aunmaqsood3129

3 жыл бұрын

​@James Matthews You can't compare Jones and Khabib. That's why i said at 155 Khabib would beat him, because naturally jones can't really compete at that weight. Khabib at his division has dominated, no one can do it better. Jones also is great at his respective division, no one ever denies that. But he's not the GOAT, he used performance enhanced drugs and was caught. Khabib being a GOAT is debatable, but his fights aren't as one-dimensional as you think buddy. He's barely showed us his other skills, like his back, which he gave a taste of during the Gaethje fight.

@aunmaqsood3129

3 жыл бұрын

@James Matthews Oh I saw your other comment about Jones dropping to 155 and still beating Khabib, which is utterly stupid. Someone who has been wrestling bears will ever get beaten, haha! You're talking out of your ass here buddy, I was going to agree with you on some points until I realized how much of an idiot you were.

GSP vs Khabib would be the most sold show ever for a while.

You cant have this conversation w/o GSP in the talks. Fight resume's of both GSP and JJ far out classes that of Khabib. GSP jumped up in weight and that is why I think JJ is doing that. He understands that a title in another weight category and go up to boot, gives him the nod over GSP.

Not Jon Jones, how the hell Joe just overlooks his cheating is BEYOND me Khabib said himself GSP is the GOAT. Can't be the goat with four title fights.

@Light-jo9lp

3 жыл бұрын

joe works for ufc.. of course he would act like nothing happened before

@KingLlive

3 жыл бұрын

It’s because Jon Jones is the GOAT

@crimsonnite9291

3 жыл бұрын

@@Light-jo9lp I really don't think Joe needs UFC. He loses money working for them at this point.

@sflaw5581

3 жыл бұрын

​@@KingLlive the GOAT who needs PEDs to perform.

@Daniel-pr2tp

3 жыл бұрын

@Abner Cordeiro buddy. He failed it MULTIPLE times.

Shogun, rampage, Gustafson, Cormier, machida, Now there’s a resume

If Jones if the GOAT of MMA, then Lance Armstrong is the GOAT at cycling.

@clintdegen

3 жыл бұрын

but Lance is the GOAT at cycling. The other guys just didn't get caught.

@joshlasky8138

3 жыл бұрын

he is the best. who else in bicycle racing can you name that is a superstar.

@AhsanKhan-xf7vs

3 жыл бұрын

@@clintdegen lol

@Roxasthesupersaiyan

3 жыл бұрын

Is Armstrong NOT the GOAT, though?

@JordansTake35

3 жыл бұрын

Difference with Armstrong is all of the top 20 guys were juicing as well. Jon is juicing and fighting guys who are clean.

"Jones can take time off and still beat world-class athletes, who does that?!" I think the answer you're looking for comes in picograms, my guy.

@vibe9155

3 жыл бұрын

That is unrealistic for the average ufc fighter, along with even a good one. Jon is the GOAT

@GEICO316

3 жыл бұрын

@@vibe9155 without roids jones aint nothing chill cheaters never win he just cant accept he love that coco and roids get real jones

@abhayy2297

3 жыл бұрын

Gsp can do that.

@TheInfamousThey305

3 жыл бұрын

@@vibe9155 facts. I love seeing them act like salt enhancements are superpowers 😂

@lucarossi9453

3 жыл бұрын

Gsp did lol

What he's saying about Jones at heavyweight is spot on what happened.

@lukef752

Жыл бұрын

Facts I can literally see it in this comment section.

@BodyJab295

Жыл бұрын

@@lukef752 Luke is a man of knowledge. Never seen anyone break down fights and fighters better than him honestly.

He perfected everything about Jon jones perfectly

Luke Thomas should have a commentary gig with the UFC. He knows his onions.

@iwantsexseemyvideo1512

3 жыл бұрын

❤️🌶️

@obitriceforlife5771

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly the dude knows his MMA unlike many others.

@TRiXest95YO

3 жыл бұрын

Agree brotha!

@sheshd

3 жыл бұрын

Breakdowns vs commentary ain't exactly the same but yes his insight is exceptional. I'd love to see some collabs between him and Hardy

@marcgodfrey331

3 жыл бұрын

He knows his shit, but it's never gonna happen. He criticizes the pay structure in the UFC so Dana automatically dislikes him

A man trains to fight with the help of his father. His mother never really likes it, but accepts it because it's their way. Father tells son, you'll retire at 30-0. Two fights short of that goal, father dies. Mother tells son she doesn't want him fighting without his father around. Son fights one last fight because he had given his word to his father he would. Then he retires because he gave his mother his word he would. Just one fight short of a goal he had been working towards for his entire career. That ladies and gentlemen, that is a MAN. Show me one MMA fighter anywhere that has that kind of reverence for others, including his God. They don't exist. No, he will not return; not unless his mother wishes it. He will not return because he is a man of his word and that word was given. He cannot be bought. Khabib is exactly what martial artists used to aspire to be.

@batman_diaries

Жыл бұрын

There are better people in the fighting world. Pacman is one. He changed everything for his homeland. Brought so much change and a great man outside the ring. Just coz he is a good son does not make him great. He's an amazing warrior. But it rests at that.

@kingsweattv2465

Жыл бұрын

Well said.... But unfortunately, you've mentioned NOTHING that actually matters when it comes to being pugilist/Martial artist!! His respect or lack thereof for his or anybody else god.. Utterly irrelevant

@raseanbenton1456

Жыл бұрын

@William jon jones you meant

@stewartcattanach7224

Жыл бұрын

Remember when he missed weight and pulled out of fights, lack of professionalism not a man, pathetic

@Adam.Rushing

Жыл бұрын

@@batman_diaries I agree that just because someone is good in one area of their life (i.e. being a good son), it does not make them a great human being. I also agree that Manny is an amazing person, in and out of the ring. However, I disagree with the implication that Khabib is not - if that is what you were implying...I may have misunderstood you there. Khabib has done a lot for his home town, specifically helping the local kids and the schools...in fact, he and Pacman have a lot in common with their philanthropy choices. Though, I don't know how much he "has changed" Dagestan as a whole...I honestly donj't keep up with any celeb's personal life that much...I just know what I see/read. God bless bud.

Khabib never met an opponent like Chael Sonnen when Bones beat that dude using his own style that's the moment I realized that Jon Jones was unbeatable. 🙆

Anderson Silva has to be up there, too. Maybe not the GOAT, but the most amazing to watch for sure. That man's style and constant KO's were beautiful.

@TheKrisCloud

Жыл бұрын

Then loses to jake paul 😆

That was the best breakdown I heard of Khabib subbing Gaethje

Hardest fight Khabib ever had in the UFC was with the scale. He’s the GOAT. Made every fighter look mediocre at best

@mezutzizu

3 жыл бұрын

That's the reason he's so much stronger than his opponents. He cuts way too much weight, he should definitely fight at the division above

@afgankidd00

3 жыл бұрын

@@mezutzizu bad take

@patstaysuckafreeboss8006

3 жыл бұрын

@@afgankidd00 Terrible take. Regardless I think he could still eat half the WWs

@rayu2794

3 жыл бұрын

Khabib has not fought enough championship fights in my eyes.

@michaelstollairetbarceo3287

3 жыл бұрын

Jon Jones 100%, anyone saying otherwise is suffering from recency bias. Staying on top for a decade, and defending as much as jones has done is a totally different game than looking very dominant and getting a few title defenses WHICH NUMEROUS FIGHTERS HAVE ALSO DONE.

I don’t think they realize though that statistically it’s a lot easier to not get cut as a lightweight than a light heavy or heavy. Your skin’s strength doesn’t change but the average power and energy of the punches and kicks do dramatically. As result not getting hurt is easier. Grappling is a lot easier when you can eat weaker shots. It’s why in heavy fighters are more hesitant to close.

6:15 aged like fine wine

@Kantar007

Жыл бұрын

fr

@desma26

Жыл бұрын

clicked newest so I could find this comment

"Jon would take time off, wouldn't train and still come and beat everybody, it's amazing..." PED's my friend, PED's.

@tomob5715

3 жыл бұрын

You wildly exaggerate the effects of PEDs...wildly!!

@beefcake502

3 жыл бұрын

Spoken like someone who has never done a sport in their life

@stevest8675

3 жыл бұрын

Fact. Jones is a steroid goat. Lmao

@khabibmma9382

3 жыл бұрын

@Michael Robertson Jones is a PED cheat. PEDS are called enhancement drugs because they enhance your performance, and If you are milli-seconds faster than your opponent thats a great unfair advantage in a fight.

@khabibmma9382

3 жыл бұрын

@Michael RobertsonThat's a strawman's argument. No one is saying he has no talent. But It will never be known if he would have achieved what he has achieved without PEDS. Especially that his performance was awful after USADA. So there is a huge asterisk to his career.

Khabib, never bled, got cut or even bruised over 100 rounds in a stacked divison. Greatest combat fighter of all time.

@CHASINVII

3 жыл бұрын

Over 100 rounds?

@HunterJs2

3 жыл бұрын

@ashish sinha It’s wild to me that you’re willing to be objectively incorrect while so confident.

@piumpusboy

3 жыл бұрын

Khabib only fought less than a handful of great fighters let alone only defended his title like 3 times. Jones fought bigger names multiple times and was champion in 2 divisions and for a couple of years in one of them. So this debate is too hard to answer especially now that khabib retired, if khabib comes back and fights say a GSP and wins then that goat title seems more respected. Cejudo is the greatest combat fighter if there was one from the ufc, 2x Olympic champ and then 2 division champ at the same time so it’s kinda hard to argue with that one

@TheZubin66

3 жыл бұрын

@ashish sinha Casual fan over here 👆🏼

@SlimClipper

3 жыл бұрын

How many excellent fighters did he fight? Barely a handful. Henry Cejudo won an Olympic Gold medal in wrestling and was a simultaneous two-division UFC champion. That’s more impressive.

funny how he said jones was gonna get his after heavyweight and he absolutely did that guy fucking predicted it flawlessly especially after winning and was hyped up to be the goat again… picture perfect prediction lmao

I give it to Kabib even tho I'm a bigger fan of Bones. The fact that Jon actually lost a couple and got gift wins. Kabib never lost at all. Not even close

@hectorsthoughts3737

Жыл бұрын

Dj is the goat

@shemarmoore5292

Жыл бұрын

Jon will Jill him you know his dad ain’t there to defend cos he the man said bones the best

Luke: My head is spinning. Joe while he’s pouring him more: That’s alright.

@crowns9966

3 жыл бұрын

@TheRealist 811 lmaoo

@DazedMMJ87

3 жыл бұрын

Lmfaooooooo

@DmDaPDm

3 жыл бұрын

Lool Joes that bad influence friend you gotta watch out for 😂

@raymondchan318

3 жыл бұрын

im dedd... 😂😂😂

Not sure how the conversation is Khabib vs Jon Jones, Jon jones failed more drug tests than Khabib lost rounds that should automatically disqualify him from the GOAT. The conversation should be about Khabib vs GSP. Two respectable champions who respect each other, even Khabib himself says GSP is the greatest, GSP returns the respect these two are in the conversation not Jon ''Juicehead'' Jones.

@uwotm8634

3 жыл бұрын

It's because Jones needs to butt in and try to steal Khabib's shine, he's so salty that someone could possibly be better than him, whereas GSP has been extremely respectful and showed tons of praise to Khabib, and is actually humble enough to admit he's not the GOAT.

@HaloXKing7852

3 жыл бұрын

Just say that you hate jon jones and move on. Even dana white said it, khabib is P4P #1 but Jones is the GOAT. His resume is far more impressive.

@jakewilliams5018

3 жыл бұрын

Abdulmanap dead

@ZEND0G

3 жыл бұрын

This is the best comment here. JJ is a trash star. Sure he accomplished a lot but nowhere near worth being considered the GOAT. The goat is more than a record. It's as much personality and earned respect as it is anything. Imagine Jordan being popped for all the shit JJ was. JJ needs to fight against his own character to convince weak minded fans that he is the best to ever do it. The real ones know what it was to watch GSP and Khabib truly own their sport and display an otherworldly level of dedication. Jon Jones was blessed with genetics and coming from a sports family and put his weight class on blast for years, no doubt. But his scumbag nature detracts from his legacy and IMO he is tarnished gold. Khabib and GSP are platinum.

@americangangster1911

3 жыл бұрын

It's because Jon Jones has had 16 world titles wrapped around his waist and Khabib has only had 4. Jon is still undefeated in the UFC, nobody has ever beaten him, he has only disqualified himself and had a no contest because of picograms of a steroid which Jeff novinsky said had no performance enhancing benefit and were caused by a tainted supplement that usada tested and proved that the supplement was tainted and it was consistent with what was found in Jon's body. The steroid excuse is just an excuse and a way for haters to discredit him. Jon's body of work literally dwarfs Khabib's. Khabib is not the first guy to have a 13 fight win streak in the UFC, Anderson Silva did it, GSP did it, Mighty Mouse did it, Tony Ferguson did it ect, and if you want to talk title defenses Ronda Rousey has more title defenses than Khabib, Tito Ortiz has more than Khabib, Chuck Liddell has more than Khabib, Jose Aldo has more, Matt hughes, Tyrone woodley, Renan Barao, Pat Miletich, Frank Shamrock, Amanda Nunes, all of these people have more title defenses than Khabib and at the end of the day that's really what matters, title fights because they're the highest level fight that a person can fight in the UFC.

If Rogan gets Khabib on he must have DC with him! That would be soo good

GSP, Silva, Jones, Machida, Usman, Adesanya - all looked invincible for a time. The thing hurting Kabib is he wasnt on top long enough

@cyberjayhd7051

6 ай бұрын

That's a great point

Drug use is enough to take him off the list. Did u guys not remember the whole pictogram issues?

@milleristhegoat6418

3 жыл бұрын

You realize a picogram is a grain of salt in an Olympic sized swimming pool...

@saurabhkale4070

3 жыл бұрын

You are right

@midgetporn9735

3 жыл бұрын

@@milleristhegoat6418 he was popped before that dude. Jones was popped many times before the picogram shit.

@thephilosopher7173

3 жыл бұрын

@@milleristhegoat6418 Sadly he could literally have a single atom in his system and ppl will think it makes him superman lol.

@johnkerr8379

3 жыл бұрын

Amen

Why is John even in the conversation? Everyone knows he used performance drugs - he’s disqualified. Period.

@username6333

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone at the top level is on some sort of PEDs. Don't think people won't do everything possible when millions and millions of dollars are on the line.

@josephpalma743

3 жыл бұрын

@Ruben Feneser so angry but funny!

@mikej9325

3 жыл бұрын

@@username6333 nah DC didn’t take shit

@brdolivadar

3 жыл бұрын

Because Joe Rogan is Jones' little fangirl

@mosamoa6719

3 жыл бұрын

Cocaine is performance enhancing drugs😂

I take breaks from lifting and come back stronger and able to handle more volume. I would imagine MMA could have similarities.

Jon Jones “I didn’t train” Khabib “My opponent cannot train enough”

Everyone: Jones! Khabib! Silva! Fedor! GSP: Am I a joke to you?

@kauskaus7217

3 жыл бұрын

His resume doesn't compare. And he wasn't dominant the way khabib and jbj were.

@bharathvarsh1801

3 жыл бұрын

@@kauskaus7217 lol what?

@muradyboy934

3 жыл бұрын

What khabib beat bums most of his career his only key victories are rda Justin Dustin and conor, gsp beat guys way more elite then those guys

@toxicmasculine77

3 жыл бұрын

GSP had his face rearranged vs Kendricks. And had a couple of very bad losses, yeah he "avenged" them but still those two losses he was dominated. Jon Jones and khabib don't have that issue

@toxicmasculine77

3 жыл бұрын

@@muradyboy934 right. Let's pretend the lightweight division wasn't the most stacked division right when Khabib was arriving in the UFC. He's just that much better than everyone else. Gaethje defeated a fighter that was on a 12-fight win streak and Khabib made him look like an amateur. Just say you don't like him personally

Khabib seems to be a very honest, humble, champion person. He is like the Tim Tebow of Dagestan. I honor and resect him.

@jrgussngussn7093

3 жыл бұрын

A train wreck called khabib.

@tonypnts

2 жыл бұрын

@Billy Shabir stfu u know what he means

@cloutlordree3057

2 жыл бұрын

How tf did teebow get in this picture....can I take a wild guess and say voted for trump?

@dfgntzfjgyhmghbndfnghcmsfr1089

2 жыл бұрын

Who's Tim Tebow?

@seanim6846

2 жыл бұрын

Tim Tebow? Gtfo of here Tim fucking Tebow?? The audacity of your statement. Wtf is going on here Tebow of Dagestan.

The GOAT for me is not someone with the most win or title defences...It's someone who is best in his game and can make people fall in love with him with his nature and actions..N for me that is KHABIB

@LosHitman

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong Gsp is he did all that aswell

@Itsyourboy_ray

Жыл бұрын

first he has 13 ufc fights(all wins), but if you are talking about the 29 wins being impressive then you should take a look at a fighter called Dan Severn who has a record of 101-19-1. Now which is better, 29-0-0 or 101-19-1? The latter of course. However, the reason as to why Dan Severn is no way near the goat talk is because in the ufc he had 13 fights same as khabib but Dan's ufc record was 9-4-0 and never secured any belts. So yes Khabib's undefeated run is impressive but a mere 13 wins is nothing compared to gsp 13 title fight wins (26 wins overall) and jones 14 title fight wins (26 wins overall) and anderson silva 16 win streak (34 wins overall) title wins is what makes a goat in the mma world

@Itsyourboy_ray

Жыл бұрын

plus gsp is more humble and more of a mr nice guy which everyone loved than khabib

@Matteo8136n

2 ай бұрын

Same

I love Jones fighting style more. But bruh be real khabib don't even sweat when he fights.. Insane respect for khabib. They both goats.

@kingkezz9188

2 жыл бұрын

PEDs

"I'm impressed by your performance" -George St Pierre to Khabib

@edmontonlivermoore4935

3 жыл бұрын

GSP has nightmares about the time he said he wasn't impressed

@JACKYBWOII

3 жыл бұрын

@@edmontonlivermoore4935 u mean he has wet dreams about those times... considering he won his next Hughes fight after saying that

@webb7903

3 жыл бұрын

George is a true champion and gives credit when credit is due, he does not try to steal the lime light [like jon jones] or say something like what about me or look what I did.

@edmontonlivermoore4935

3 жыл бұрын

@@JACKYBWOII HAHAHAHAHA BRO XD

No excuses. Didn't train this that. He should have trained. And even if he did who said he would have done better?

@julius6023

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't train for Justin, Tony trained for Khabib which fell through numerous times. I truly believe his two weight cuts affected him. Watching that fight I could see that Tony didn't look like himself. Not to take away Justin's win but I think it would've been a different story if he had a full camp and didn't make the stupid decision to cut weight two times.

@carlnickson7353

3 жыл бұрын

well he trained for their second fight and he finished him in the third round

@jonathanruiz3872

3 жыл бұрын

Bro did you just hear what you said? “If he did train who said he would’ve done better? That’s got to be the most idiotic thing I’ve heard someone say... the whole point of training is to be at your best... if training has no effect on performance do you think every single other fighter would be putting themselves they that rigorous training? Think about that for a second