Daniel Cormier, Ariel Helwani Debate DC’s Top Fighters List - MMA Fighting
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Daniel Cormier and Helwani got into a friendly debate over their top 5 fighters of all time when DC appeared in studio on The MMA Hour.
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It would be farfetched to have Amanda even on a list of the top 20
@ben_mcgac
Жыл бұрын
Nah Amanda places around 10-15
@LA7777777777
Жыл бұрын
@@ben_mcgac For all-time MMA? I can agree with that. Including boxing? No way.
@ben_mcgac
Жыл бұрын
@@LA7777777777 I forgot this was boxing aswell yeah that’s fair
@MoneyymanTesla
Жыл бұрын
I disagree
DC not having Jon jones on his list is wild but not surprising 😂😂
@johnconor5485
Жыл бұрын
if you get caught using steroids, our of the question period.
@fmcdomer
Жыл бұрын
did you even watch the video?
@P0L021
Жыл бұрын
@@johnconor5485to you!
@gamebredo8880
Жыл бұрын
@@P0L021 to everyone who knows what is real
@seantorres4787
Жыл бұрын
@@P0L021 to everyone 😂
I think even DC doesn't believe in his list
@ernestclayboniii656
Жыл бұрын
Yes a strange list Amanda has losses. He said he reserves the top two for not having any losses but it's only five people on the list. And he made an integrated list of male and females. As good as Amanda is she couldn't be any of the men on the top 100 fighters list. For example Amanda couldn't be John Jones and he's not even on the damn list.
@tinaruzol7256
Жыл бұрын
Hate. Amanda she is the GREATEST * GOAT * and she only one STUTUS GOAT
@ernestclayboniii656
Жыл бұрын
@@tinaruzol7256 I love her as a fighter she's got a truly inspirational story. But could she beat the top 100 male fighters of all time I don't think so. Saying that she's number five out of all the people that have ever boxed or done MMA that's ridiculous. Saying that she's on a level with Muhammad Ali come on now..... for real!!!?
@tinaruzol7256
Жыл бұрын
Amanda Nunes she is the GREATEST * GOAT * and AMAZING. She only one STUTUS GOAT.
@Sapreme
9 ай бұрын
@@ernestclayboniii656 Do you know what P4P means? Any top 100 MMA fighter, Amanda included, would floor Ali, Tyson, and Mayweather in a real fight. On the same night. And it wouldn't even be close.
DC is trippin HAAAARD 😂😂😂
2:03 Amanda Nunes and Mohammed Ali on the same list 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
@nunyabizwacks6711
Жыл бұрын
lol yea thats a good way to look at it and see how bad and ridiculous this list is
@tinaruzol7256
Жыл бұрын
Amanda nunes she is the GREATEST. *. GOAT * and AMAZING. She only one STUTUS GOAT
@nalanwaters3365
Жыл бұрын
If you get choked out by Juliana Peña you shouldn't be anywhere near this list.
@tinaruzol7256
Жыл бұрын
Amanda BEAT and Knocked down Julianna 3 times by Punching and wrestling. Julianna got a wound on FOREHEAD that's why Surgical stitches was made (. Missing Chuck.). Julianna is BLOODY MESS. AMANDA IS DOMINATED JULIANNA
@tinaruzol7256
Жыл бұрын
Julianna FOREHEAD IS BLEEDING MANY BLOOD ON THE FLOOR. AMANDA is dominated Julianna
Okay DC keeps showing how biased he is, Khabib is great, greater than great. But he’s talking about best fighters ever with 29 fights? Sugar Ray Robinson went like 40-0 before he lost and then went on a 89 fight win streak. But yeah Khabib fight 29 times…
@Zee_____
Жыл бұрын
I agree, not long enough in the game to be considered. But great fighter.
@nunyabizwacks6711
Жыл бұрын
and over half of em were cans.
@Triggercut92
Жыл бұрын
No one could ever beat Khabib. That's as objective as you can get. He never made any mistakes
@ZeusXDFilmz
Жыл бұрын
@@Triggercut92 false.
@DMBCFC
Жыл бұрын
@@Triggercut92 nobody could ever beat Tyson Fury, Rocky Marciano, Jimmy Barry, Andre Ward, Joe Calzaghe. All undefeated and had more fights than khabib. So objectively they’re all better?
Miss watching this duo every week
@billrupp8383
Жыл бұрын
Metoo
@latecore_
Жыл бұрын
best mma show ever imo. made me smile so consistently
Love Ariel calling him out
DC eating a chicken sandwich and 5 cupcakes is crazy 😂
@deborahakinlade9053
Жыл бұрын
Daniel doesn’t eat the food
baaad list dc. Amanda being on the same list as gsp and Ali is insane.
@Danfromthenorth84
Жыл бұрын
noone had anything to say about the matt sera knockout or the fact that Johny Hendricks beat him like a red headed step child
@nunyabizwacks6711
Жыл бұрын
@@Danfromthenorth84 flukes like the serra thing happen to the best, and he avenged it with a vengeance and beat serra down, and if you go by score with how fights were being scored, he beat hendrix. Sure GSPs face was beat up, but he did what he needed to to win the war. Plus, scoring by rounds, they both had 2 clear rounds they won anyway, so it was basically just decided on a round. Casuals going around acting like Hendricks dominated GSP is laughable.
@tinaruzol7256
Жыл бұрын
Amanda she is the GREATEST. *. GOAT *. and AMAZING. She only one STUTUS GOAT
2:05 Loved how he called him out for being a company man 😂😂😂😂
1:05 the way he couldn’t remember what her name was hilarious
Jones` head kick really messed with DC`s brain
@sanjutamang4622
Жыл бұрын
pin this comment
@mazizazi8412
Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@sabian8601
Жыл бұрын
I said the same thing😹😹😹
@ivanooze1049
Жыл бұрын
@@sanjutamang4622 no
@luvlybaluga
Жыл бұрын
I think it was the excessive PEDs and eye poking and cheating he got away with more then the head kick.
DC’s list is crazy 😂 but I appreciate the loyalty he has for his friend Khabib.
To be fair to DC, making a list of only 5 for both boxing and UFC is very tough. But having no Bones on there is pure salt 😂.
@drewdrewson1384
Жыл бұрын
he's failed like 4 drug tests. They don't have bonds in the hall of fame. Same reason
@boxalarmtrading
Жыл бұрын
@@drewdrewson1384 True that would dissuade some people from putting him top 5. The Hall of Fame especially MLB is a very prestigious thing so I can see politically why you wouldn’t want a person with steroid problems in there. But for a personal top 5 list I think it’s a little different. With what Jones has done in the sport I’m willing to still have him in my top 5 even with his tainted past.
@johnconor5485
Жыл бұрын
if you get caught using steroids, our of the question period.
@ellieswagaye
Жыл бұрын
call it salt but its very consistent, he didn't put silva there either because he also popped, and if you actually listened he calls him an all time great but he doesnt have to put ped users in his own list if he doesnt want to. See you people need to understand what a subjective "greatest fighter list" is he can disqualify anyone he wants with his subjective thoughts just like people will disqualify khabib for not having enough title defenses despite his accomplishments.
@Kappa31
Жыл бұрын
He has khabib but not srr that is a far worse crime
dc not having jbj is just obvius, I think personally that jbj is the best mma fighter ever and probably also the best fighter ever
Khabib should not even be on this list.
@slicvm
Жыл бұрын
Is that you Salty Conor?
@cuckadoodledoo
Жыл бұрын
@@slicvm he never even mentioned mcgregor lmao
@slicvm
Жыл бұрын
@@cuckadoodledoo Swoosh
@cuckadoodledoo
Жыл бұрын
@@slicvm 🤓
Having Khabib and Amanda is insane
0:31 “bro listen to me” absurd dad energy
Rocky M. fought guys bigger than himself -- he had a chin, Heart, hit hard and hit longer. Flyod is certainly great. Mike T. made a good point, great isn't fearing the people, it's when you're loved by the people. Mike says Floyd needs body guards to take his kids to school.
@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights
Жыл бұрын
What the hell does that have to do with Floyd's record in the ring?
@S3RAVA3LM
Жыл бұрын
@@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights great isn't the record, it's who the fighter is, how the fighter fights, and who they fight and what adversity they've overcome in the fight. Flyod is the best defensive fighter, not the greatest of all time.
@bendover5088
Жыл бұрын
Rocky M's boxing style was made for fighting bigger fighters lol
@kniviz510
Жыл бұрын
90% of the guys Floyd fought were bigger than him
@kendyjapri1559
8 ай бұрын
Oh please rocky would get smash vs any legend og heavyweight, rocky is too small.. george foreman would ate rocky for a breakfast snack!!
“No Jones” DC continuing to talk like he didn’t say it
Having any MMA fighter that isn’t GSP or JBJ on a list with the goat boxers is comedy
@nunyabizwacks6711
Жыл бұрын
fpr real lol
@gungaginga9772
Жыл бұрын
demetrius johnson?
@kingwild772
Жыл бұрын
can count on 1 hand how many rounds khabib has lost. he has every right to be on the list. i think jbj should’ve been on it before gsp tho
@DMBCFC
Жыл бұрын
Add DJ to the list and spot on
@goden8884
Жыл бұрын
@@kingwild772 khabib is an amazing fighter but do you think he could have been as dominating in the WW division. GSP and Khabib are almost identical in size and walkaround weight. So that being said Khabib's stats at LW can not be compared with GSP.'s at WW. UFC 'S WW division is a tidal wave of wrestlers and grapplers that can hit harder than LW. It is not a fair comparison. There is more padding to Khabib's record than GSP
At least he gave Jones his respect
I like his logic of reserving the top two spots for only undefeated fighters and i can definitely see how people make a case for Rocky Marciano but at the end of the day it is just one man's list and personal choice is a thing.
LMAOOOO Ariel such a hater he put out the Popeyes chicken sandwich and cupcakes for DC 😂😂
@JCrownMusic
Жыл бұрын
hey man, if you give DC Popeye's and cupcakes, I don't think he'd call you a hater 😂
The food in front of DC 😂
I’ve never disagreed with a list as much as this one. Still love DC though, champ champ always makes me laugh 😂
How can an expert be so delusional
it'd have been cool if they brought up uncle Mike, pretty sure DC would change his mind as soon as he hits him with a "listen"
Let a man have his opinions.
Pacquiao has to be top 5 based off 8 weight divisions.
@seams4186
Жыл бұрын
My man is the GOAT in eight divisions 😭
DC got that CTE
Lol dc lowkey didn’t want to say Jon Jones
Watch DC put Islam into this list after two title defences
Crazy list, the only one I agree with is GSP.
It's hard to have a list of only 5 . Boxing has a history of 100 years+ ....so boxers will capture the whole list. And there is 30 years of MMA history. So it's unfair to have a ccommon list.
jon jones is pretty undefeated too 😂
@kniviz510
Жыл бұрын
DC said if he included tainted ped fights Jon Jones would be on it
Why do they have a picture of Raul Rosas Jr. on the wall?
I agree with Floyd. Clarissa shields is better than Amanda but but Floyd is the best combat sport fighter ever.
@billcipher3946
Жыл бұрын
Not really
@billcipher3946
Жыл бұрын
In my opinion
@trismegistus9623
Жыл бұрын
@@billcipher3946 yeah, your opinion is not smart. Lol. At all. Do some research.
Greatest of all time in this reality. You don't rank them on hypothetical potential.
The fact that he's got Khabib Over Muhammad Ali is a absolute joke
DC's list is obviously crazy, but he openly states why he doesn't ever put Anderson or Jones up there, and it's fair if that's part of his criteria for GOAT (esp since he admits Jones would be "up there" on the list if not for failed tests)
@agkizzy5405
Жыл бұрын
Regardless of that I understand that argument it’s just the order of some guys and then also the fact that Khabib and nunes aren’t top 5 in mma. But it’s his teammate so giving him a spot sure but not the 2 spot that’s wild.
DC is crazy...
I’m surprised dc didn’t put himself in this trash list
1 Rocky Marciano 2 Sugar Ray Leonard 3 GSP 4 Julio Cesar Chavez 5 Mike Tyson
The dynamic of this duo is great... ... the list is not.
Could’ve said DJ, Jones, Silva, Fedor, he could’ve said himself, but out of all the goats he has Amanda in the top 5? 😂
GSP is the greatest fighter of all time. Full stop.
Lets be honest, paddy and khabib are ariel enemies No khabib and paddy figures at his desk😂
This dude just didn’t mention manny
Lol, I absolutely agree that if Khabib were to continue fighting, nobody could beat him, but having him at number 2, after just 3 defences is close to saying, I would have been a successful martial artist, but I never entered any ring nor cage.
Cormier: who is the GOAT in all aspect Ariel: the Icon the superstar the.... conor🤣🤣
Cap….if we’re saying fighters and only naming mma & boxing. The list is basically a legitimated as watch mojo lol
@MrAngryorangutan
Жыл бұрын
Glad to see someone else thinking it, personally I'd have to put Samart Payakaroon in there, greatest Muay Thai fighter of all time who also won world titles in boxing. Incredible fighter
@HomeofCombatSports.
Жыл бұрын
@@MrAngryorangutan facts, amazing fighter!
Thank you Ariel, he needed to be put in his place for that ungodly list
Lmao @ Floyd. LOST to Castillo and handpicked opponents. Never boxed killers in their prime. And Khabib? Hahaha he defended three times and bounced. 🤦♂️
Floyd, Ali, Tyson, Jon Jones, Conor McGregor
Tyson isn’t there but Amanda is
My list: Ali Tyson Floyd Jones GSP
How is Demetrius Johnson not mentioned???
Mayweather, Ali, Jones, Tyson, Silva
So killed them with staff better than killed them with kindness?
Khabib at #2 lamo😂😂
@akl1054
Жыл бұрын
I know 😂😂😂he should’ve been lower with his shallow resume. He shouldn’t be in the top 5 you’re right
@Gabriel-vg5qv
Жыл бұрын
@@akl1054 Greatest MMA fighter of all time has a shallow resume? Just keep up with the Kardashians dude
I love how Ariel trolls him nonstop 🤣
I love DC, but he is high as a kite ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thats not a bad list, the disrespect to Nunes is crazy, you can't compare her to male fighters, thats like saying DJ is not GOAT because Jon Jones would smash him. What Nunes have done in the women's division is unprecedented, far exceeding anyone else.
GSP, Pacquiao, mayweather, anderson silva, Fedor
But invest them with praying... Hear them pray what the positive things... And exchange the negative things to be better place
I got 1Jones,2 Floyd,3 Mike Tyson, 4 Demetrius Johnson and then GSP
No Demetrius Johnson? No Tyson Fury?
Fedor?
The only one on his list i agree with is Khabib.
Not single one on that list makes it to the top 5 to be real.
@lazonaasombrosa8688
8 ай бұрын
Ali?
What a horrible list, he totally lost a plot. Just unnecessary noise. But still love him, he's just making fun trying to stir the pot.
Starsky and Hutch didn't even have this much chemistry
Katie Taylor >>>> Amanda Nunes
Putting Floyd at #1 instead of Sugar Ray Robinson or Muhammad Ali is WILD. Even wilder to say Amanda Nunes is better than Sugar Ray Robinson, Anderson, Fedor, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Demetrious Johnson, Jon Jones, Rocky Marciano, Rodtang, list goes on.
Khabib will never put himself above Muhammad ali
TYSON?!?!?!?!
Wasn't DCs first nickname the black fedor?
Bones and canelo should be on that list
Worst list ever, DC is tripping.
Btw it's DJ, GSP, JJ, Silva, 5th who ever and not in any order
@nunyabizwacks6711
Жыл бұрын
aldo 5th
@donaldrusk5
Жыл бұрын
@@nunyabizwacks6711 agreed I mean top 5 is almost impossible Hendo, Bisping, BJ Penn, so many bloody legends D Cruz
amanda nunes above fedor 😂😂???
👊🏽💯
DANIEL * DC * he is LEGEND and GREAT FIGHTER
Khabibs “undefeated” record is full of tomato cans who were either debuting in MMA or only had 1 win on their record.
Connor ??? Liddell ?? Mighty Mouse ??? Aldo
Any of these are 100 times better than Amanda; Tyson, Jon Jones , Fedor, Ali, Floyd
@tinaruzol7256
Жыл бұрын
Amanda is BETTER THAN Valentina and Julianna. Amanda she is the GREATEST. *. GOAT. * and AMAZING. She only one STUTUS GOAT
@rmelgar9
Жыл бұрын
@@tinaruzol7256 shouldn’t be there, she should be on a female list.
@tinaruzol7256
Жыл бұрын
Amanda she is the GREATEST. *. GOAT. * and AMAZING. She only one STUTUS GOAT.
Ali no. 1 for winning it thrice at different times. And all the number of fights. He's an icon
@justinharrison5138
Жыл бұрын
Could Ali beat khabib in a fight?
@kad9947
Жыл бұрын
Idk man, but my GOAT is Ray Robinson in boxing, and Bones on MMA
@nunyabizwacks6711
Жыл бұрын
@@justinharrison5138 prime vs prime probably
@haya1512
Жыл бұрын
@@justinharrison5138 if the question is only about beating in a fight then Jon Jones probably beats all. But his PED stuff and dqs tarnish his image. Ali has no idea on wrestling or submissions so mma fighters of today have an edge. But the list is about best fighters, which is also why Amanda is there above so many male fighters
Invest back to them... Not only them invest to us... About buying
I love DC but this list is nuts hahaha
Amanda really doesn’t have much competition - she needs to be tested more before making that list
@Dukestboy96
Жыл бұрын
And yet still has losses
@tinaruzol7256
Жыл бұрын
H. Fool yourself. You're fingers go BLUNT but you can't bring Amanda. Amanda she is the GREATEST. *. GOAT * and AMAZING. She only one STUTUS GOAT
@tinaruzol7256
Жыл бұрын
Dukestboy96. Amanda she is the GREATEST. *. GOAT. * and AMAZING. She only one STUTUS GOAT.
GSP and Khabib are almost identical in size and walkaround weight. So that being said Khabib's stats at LW can not be compared with GSP.'s at WW. UFC 'S WW division is a tidal wave of wrestlers and grapplers that can hit harder than LW. It is not a fair comparison. There is more padding to Khabib's record. Khabib is currently the greatest LW fighter of all time
@haldir3120
6 ай бұрын
I mean Khabib never lost and never even looked like he was losing nor wounded. GSP had all of that.
Khabib's great highlights: 1. First 13 fights against complete cans with 0-2 records 2. Never fought a great wrestler like Arman or Guram or Demir or Gamrot or anybody. 3. Made a career out of fighting strikers. 4. Only 3 title defenses lol 5. Terrible striker, decision machine. Love DC but Khabib is not even Top 5 MMA fighters of all time lol If we talk about "could've" then we say Jones would be the GOAT if he fought without steroids.
@michaelrendler3703
Жыл бұрын
Usman and Adesanya have a way better claim to be higher on the list of greatest MMA fighters. Also, neither one of them missed weight or had to nearly kill themselves just to make the cut.
Still dreaming from that jon jones knock out.
Khabib was a natural 170 pounder and wasn’t willing to compete there. So he’s not on the list. Everyone else on the list fought at weights where they didn’t need to cut 40 pounds to fight much smaller men.
@kingwild772
Жыл бұрын
fair but he was so dominate at 155 he deserves to be on the list. I can count on 1 hand how many rounds he lost. 2 or 3 maybe.
@mvansb23
Жыл бұрын
@@kingwild772 the true greats sought to test themselves against men their size. Usman and GSP were there. He didn’t want that smoke. All his big wins were against guys that moved up from featherweight. He doesn’t have wins over great lightweight champions. No one he beat will go down as all time great at 155.
@kingwild772
Жыл бұрын
@@mvansb23 it’s not his fault there was no “comp” everyone said tony and olivera were the guys that could’ve beat him but oliveria couldn’t even get past islam and we see what’s happening with tony 😂 khabib is on a completely different level than these guys. And i never new simply changing different weight classes is what determines “greatness” lol
@kingwild772
Жыл бұрын
@@mvansb23 also Jones is top 5 greats and he has yet to win a fight at a different weight class.
@mvansb23
Жыл бұрын
@@kingwild772 none of us know anything until we see it. He had a chance to prove everything you say. And passed. Just spent his career beating up on glorified featherweights.
This is the list my 12 year old nephew would make🤦🏻♂️
Ali Floyd Tyson Jones Top 4
There is a lot of woulds, coulds, and shoulds in DCs list. I love bro but this list has to be a troll
Honestly, in a top 5 fighters list for boxing and UFC, boxers shouldn't even be allowed in this list, as they are not fighters and would get ragdolled by average MMA fighters (don't get me wrong, they have a punchers chance, ask Tim sylvia😂) Top 5 should be: 1- Jones (he's undeniable and that's given that he wouldn't even test positive for PED's as per today's standards) 2- Might mouse DJ (ruled flyweight, arguably beat Cejudo in the second fight, doing great things in the sport still in ONE (ONE's flyweight>>>>>>>>UFC's flyweight) 3- GSP (only because in my opinion, he lost to hendricks, but man was GSP amazing. His jab, superman punch, leg kick combo is pure❤) 4- Anderson Silva (ruled MW for 7 straight years, still boxing and winning lol. He's a straight up legend, probably the beat combat athlete ever) 5- Stipe Miocic/Jose Aldo