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@MMAli-rq8kd

2 жыл бұрын

Great video! Can you do a similar analysis for Vettel; how much of his trouble is from the car?

@b3at2

2 жыл бұрын

the garbage 2022 car was on purpose to hurt mercedes… the changes were made to make the “sport” more “interesting” and harder for Mercedes. 2021 championship was a set and the whole 2022 season is too. F1 is a rigged sport.

@clintstewart5545

2 жыл бұрын

screw hamilton rubbish overrated even moldano or de cesaris would win with that over dominating mercedes

@elonmusk9697

2 жыл бұрын

So no driver could take this Merc and put it in the front rows but when Lewis won all those titles with the Merc from the last years, it was the driver? Jesus....

@clintstewart5545

2 жыл бұрын

@@elonmusk9697 british press LOL LOL LOL , he won because he was the underdog

I’m surprised Lewis and George can walk after going 50 laps with that porpoising. We’ve gone from “Bono my tyres are gone” to “Bono my ass is gone”.

@emilnilsson4320

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know but it sounds like you are talking from real experience here so I have to take your word for it.

@santir3690

2 жыл бұрын

More like back problems but that's not really a major problem anymore, unlike the 80's where the cockpit literally transfered all the energy of the contact with the ground to the drivers ass

@finn.linn.1250

2 жыл бұрын

Shit his uncle got in the cockpit?

@CornHol1o

2 жыл бұрын

@@emilnilsson4320 yeah I’m a professional F1 driver at the weekends

@emilnilsson4320

2 жыл бұрын

@@CornHol1o yeah right, your probably porpoising in your bed with your boyfriend.. that's why you are talking from experience 😉🙈

I've got to give it to all the drivers this year with this porpoising, I couldn't imagine driving on the limit with that. The one dark horse i see is the McLaren though. They are so flat through those sections and if they figure out how to lower the mcl36 without getting the porpoising, it's going to be a weapon.

@N.S4L4S

2 жыл бұрын

well said.

@johnj9111

2 жыл бұрын

And their brakes not catching fire

@wesrihn

2 жыл бұрын

It’s going to be an exciting season for sure. I think even Haas has potential to have a very good car.

@good5453

2 жыл бұрын

good eye, quali today went well

@twothbeave

2 жыл бұрын

@@wesrihn KMag P4! Ya nailed it!

This is a great reminder that F1 is an engineering championship BEFORE it's a racing one. To have any chance of anything you first need the car, it doesn't matter if it's the GOD of driving in a slower car, simply no chance of winning. It's different from other racing series where the cars are similar and "anything" can happen.

@mongtard2

2 жыл бұрын

So was going to the moon. lmao.

Ferrari built a 312T4, Red Bull has an FW07, and Mercedes made a Lotus 80. I don't think things are getting better for them without a major design rethink.

@velocitaaa

2 жыл бұрын

The Mercedes isn't a dog though. It's still comfortably 3rd best on the grid right now. They just need more time to understand the concept and gather more data.

@mondodimotori

2 жыл бұрын

The 312T4 was a great car. It won the championship. You are thinking about the T5.

@damcleandetailing

2 жыл бұрын

@@velocitaaa THANK YOU!! Somebody who actually understands Merc’s pace relative to the other teams. They’re not back markers by any means, just not absolute front runners. Still not at ‘09 McLaren first half of season “dog of a car” level, so it’s not a bad place to be.

@chrisbee9643

2 жыл бұрын

should be forbitten for 8 years, like they did prior to the others, to ensure a certain wanna be GOAT can collect some easy titles...

@HeavyMetalGamingHD

2 жыл бұрын

@@damcleandetailing ferrari and red bull will also bring upgrades while merc try to fix their issues. And the upgrades for rb and ferrari will bring them a lot of pace. It will almost be impossible for mercedes to completely catch up this season. they might win a few races on tracks that suit them, after they have a fix, but nothing more. We are not talking about the already big points deficit. What I mean is, the massive pace deficit.

Something I haven’t heard anyone talk about is just how much the Red Bull cars scrape the ground at high speed. It seems to me that somehow they’ve devised a way to scrape the ground at the proper ride height for ground effect. That’s just my opinion and it could be totally wrong and I’d love to hear what other people think.

@hawkgeoff

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed... and, if you lose your downforce while in contact with the ground do they not also then have less drag at higher speeds? Seems to me they might have something figured out that F and M do not

@fintonmainz7845

2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps they make more visible sparks when they do ground?

@fablewalls

2 жыл бұрын

"Something I haven’t heard anyone talk about is just how much the Red Bull cars scrape the ground at high speed" Funny, one of the first things I read in Barcelona was how they put a bigger block of titanium under the car to solve the porpoising. All teams use titanium blockers but you'll notice the Red Bull makes more sparks in high speed than the others.

@bertram-raven

2 жыл бұрын

It is called a bump stop.

@shortjohnson7804

2 жыл бұрын

@@fablewalls Thank you for letting me know! It makes so much more sense now.

0:43 what a load of bollocks!! Russell is consistently performing better then Lewis in the same car…

I'm really curious to know if the car would be faster had they stuck with the original sidepods.

@scuckplexity

2 жыл бұрын

In theory, it's slower. But I would say it suffers less problems

@Jonathan-mj1oe

2 жыл бұрын

Teams like Haas have already said they tried Merc's "no sidepod" design early in their own process, but saw more potential in wide sidepods. Same thing for Ferrari. So i do think the "no sidepod" design isnt working wonders, but looking at Williams, i dont think their old design wouldve been much better either hahah

@britishrose9417

2 жыл бұрын

the sidepods would have made the floor more rigid, so I assume faster. The floor is apparently flapping at speed which is adding to the problem. I would expect to see some kind of sidepod return in a couple of races. Much like the Williams walrus nose of a few years ago it was in theory a good idea, but in reality it is a disaster.

@britishrose9417

2 жыл бұрын

@@harrybirchall3308 Because they are connected to them - the floor area that should be covered by them on other cars is the part that is apparently flexing

@britishrose9417

2 жыл бұрын

@@harrybirchall3308 Did you not see the first test?

I think this shows a bit how good of a driver George actually is

@uprightfossil6673

2 жыл бұрын

If it rains I will take the 15/1 odds for him to win. That's a no-brainer for me

@elacme626

2 жыл бұрын

@@uprightfossil6673 Definitely interesting to see

@uprightfossil6673

2 жыл бұрын

@@elacme626 I am not a fanboy. I love sports because of the skills I do not have. I bet because I feel I may be onto something that can pay. Russell at 15/1 (just for a podium finish NOW!!!) would be a shocker considering that the bookies all have LeClerc and Max at 2/1 for everything this weekend. Rain will decide my bet. CHEERS

@Hero_Of_Old

2 жыл бұрын

@@uprightfossil6673 I'm backing George too

@Josmersuero

2 жыл бұрын

what? george has been tremendously lucky.

I'm glad they replaced Bottas with George. Mercedes is really struggling. Bottas deserved better

About Senna's driving style... Like every great driver will attest to.. the driving style is dependent on the car. Great drivers can quickly adapt to what the car demands to go fast.

@cometor1

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and no. Nobody's perfect and even the best have preferences. Speed is the combination of driver, car, setup and the harmony of all things.

@bennynagon9322

2 жыл бұрын

Well then I expect senna to win in a Aston Martin if he drove this season

@Evan102030

2 жыл бұрын

@@cometor1 what I'm saying is, I would expect Senna to adapt to what is needed today, and not drive current cars like he did in his day.

@cometor1

2 жыл бұрын

@@bennynagon9322 bs, no one said he would be the fastest. Just that they could adapt to it.

@cometor1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Evan102030 yes, he would adapt but they wouldn't be outstanding.

Apart from the qualifying performance in Saudi during the race he was on course for a comfortable P6 had it not been for the VSC and SC, where Riccardo car was parked infront the pitalne, resulting in the pitlane being close, otherwise lewis has had a decent season beating MR saturday (Geroge Russel) 2-1 in qualifying (1 sec quicker in Bahrain) and P3 and P4 finishes in Bahrain and Australia.Moreover, Lewis got unlucky again in Australia, since before the safety where he was a comfortable p3, but russel was a able to benefit under the SC

@utdspiritf1virk758

2 жыл бұрын

I agree Lewis is performing better in My eyes, but Russel in baraign made a bad mistake on his final lap on his first ever qualy against Lewis with Mercedes’. If he didn’t do that apparently his lap was very close to Lewis maybe even beating it if I remember, 1 sec gap wasn’t really reflected on how well Russel was doing up until that point.

@DJB_02

2 жыл бұрын

George is doing really well considering the gap in experience between the two. Lewis is still Lewis though

@hajimm3r570

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but the problem is this is Mercedes we expect nothing but the best from them and we can see that it’s been a bit of a struggle for them

@blue-pi2kt

2 жыл бұрын

Let's not pretend like Lewis pitting first wasn't in his interests. He got the optimal alignment under their perceived optimal strategy, Russell had to wait. You can't get first preference and then whinge when sometimes it breaks against you.

@mohammadebrahimi3706

2 жыл бұрын

When its bad results ,its the car When its good results, sir lewis hamilton is the greatest of all time

Hamilton always had struggled with no rocketship, it's a fact Driver61: Rubish :( Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance. You are in the first step

@Hannie175

2 жыл бұрын

Its really sad they are so pro-Hamilton. I like the channel but I am increasingly less interested in their content because of videos just like this one. Be openly pro hamilton or put your personal preferences aside and be neutral and create content for fans of all drivers

@oasisblindsandshutters1431

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hannie175 personal preference, or a racing driver clearly seeing a very reliable and fast racing driver in Lewis??

He may be struggling a little but he really isn't doing that bad lol. Obviously he had a bad weekend at saudi but he edged Russel in pace at both bahrain and Australia. It was only due to the timing of the safety car that Russel ended up ahead. Edit: OK, Russel was far better at imola. Fair play.

@mick8473

2 жыл бұрын

Their fastest laps show Russell 0.5 quicker, set within 2 laps of each other.

@hotshtsr20

2 жыл бұрын

He was edging Russel on pace at Saudi after he took one for the team on an experiment setup. Just got unlucky with the safety car combined with closing the pits and re-bunching the field.

@jwork5680

2 жыл бұрын

@@mick8473 Hamilton was 0.3 quicker than Russell

@alexcepile1420

2 жыл бұрын

@@jwork5680 nope

@jwork5680

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexcepile1420 did u even watch the race?

Great analysis. It definitely explains Russel finishing P4 in Imola. Especially loved the graph and GPS data part. "73.6% of all statistics are made up"...)

I like Hamilton… but this year clearly is showing that the car makes for the majority of the performance… just look at Magnussen finishing P4 in a Haas qualifying at Imola… or Verstappen behind the Ferrari or Merc in the back of the middle pack… smh

@yamanesgin

2 жыл бұрын

Well of course. But this isn't just Hamilton. Whether you place Verstappen or Leclerc in this car, they will not outperform Hamilton. He didn't just win 7 championships for no reason. Without a good car, you cannot drive at your limit, and Mercedes right now is not allowing Hamilton and Russel to go at their limit like they did last year.

@harry.4635

2 жыл бұрын

@@yamanesgin how can you confidently say that its not the driver when hes never been in a bad car, there's no data to show he would be better than either verstappen or leclerc in a bad car because he's never been in one. That's why a lot of people are saying that it's Hamilton's expectations etc...

@yamanesgin

2 жыл бұрын

@@harry.4635 I am not confidently saying anything but I also would like to remind you that we he switched from Mclaren to Mercedes, Mercedes didn't have a good car. Now saying that he will be better than Verstappen or Leclerc is an assumption made on the fact that the dude is experienced af and knows how to goddamn drive. Not saying that Leclerc and Verstappen don't obviously but you gotta give credit to Hamilton. He is being treated like Lebron in the NBA. Everything he wins people just hate on him and say it is due to luck. I get that people might have been tired of Hamilton winning for several years in a row but that just proves that it's not only the car.

@BlackNuke145

2 жыл бұрын

@@harry.4635 What is this arbitrary rule that a driver must be good in a poor car to be a good driver. Why?

@RealSweetlakecity

2 жыл бұрын

@@yamanesgin Verstappen literally beat Hamilton in a worse car previous season, even with several DNF's that weren't his fault. How can you possibly claim Hamilton would beat Verstappen in an equal battle lol

Weakest car he ever had was the 2009 Mclaren. DESPITE that, mclaren still got p3 in constructors. Most drivers who aren't blessed their entire carreer would kill to have the 3rd best car for a season. Some drivers are just more capable of driving shitboxes.

@alexlacl8730

2 жыл бұрын

Like Lewis

@eggselent9814

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah because the car got some major updates after the German Grand Prix. After that it was clearly one of the fastest cars with the RBs and Brawns. I mean Lewis got two wins and Kovalainen got a lot of solid points as well. Before that they were both bad, like really bad.

@MorphianDA

2 жыл бұрын

Lewis is someone that can give you more than the car is capable of (much like Alonso). I'd like to see anyone else try to get the best out of the most difficult car to drive on the grid.

@dsar8727

2 жыл бұрын

Lewis isnt capable of driving shitboxes. When you think of great drivers, they all overperformed in shit cars. Senna, Clark, Schumacher, Alonso.

@skippityblippity8656

2 жыл бұрын

#blessed by the MaFIA Hamilton also really #blessed albon when overtaking him on pure skill Hamilton recently #blessd max with a high speed take out into the wall at 45 G Remember when Hamilshit was so #blessed he cut the chicane at yas marine and STILL LOST

3:03 Laguna Seca .. would love to see a F1 car doing that Corkscrew ;)

"Its the car and not Lewis" - Hasn't it always been that way ever since he has been there ?

@danielsgrunge

2 жыл бұрын

it's the same for every F1 driver They can't do things their car wont allow them to, it's impossible

@valkenburgert

2 жыл бұрын

Sure it was. However, setting your car up better than your teammate is needed for consistent wins. Lewis did this by politically influencing Mercedes in not giving him a good teammate. He’d crash, ignore orders and blatantly tried blocking his teammates when they were far faster. Lewis is obviously good enough to drive the best car home so Mercedes never had a choice realistically. Bringing in two new drivers is not ideal. So Lewis could stay, Bottas joined as a filler and Lewis got to drive the best car home unrivalled. Not only because his car was best, Lewis created the perfect environment within Mercedes. Now George comes in and proves just a good as Lewis, if not better since he finds better setups quicker. Excuses will come rapidly. Lewis changed, safety cars, stomach hurting, racism, the list will be endless. Anything but admitting Rosberg was just as good as Lewis and random talents like George are as well.

@kevin4615

2 жыл бұрын

Bravely said. Plenty of truth finally getting out.

@Alumnikiid

2 жыл бұрын

Well his rival had the same car. Prost and Senna had a beast of a car when they battle. Dont see yall making the same effort to discredit any of them just cause their car was faster. Leclec wasn’t winning anything last year. Guess what?, faster car now he winning. The Irony of yall logic.

@CHEGTO

2 жыл бұрын

There are so many people with there heads up there @$$ there is no way a voice of reason can reach there ears let alone sound logic this is a sport won or lost by seconds or fractions of a second if the car is difficult to drive you won't have the confidence nor the control to be competitive... it's there right to be a hater or a dick rider just like it's there right to be ignorant

If it is fair to talk about Hamilton being great when he is in a great car then it is fair to talk about how bad he is in a bad car. Driver arguments in F1 make no sense until you put everyone in the same car. The you would actually find out who is great, average and bad.

@maximvhaeren

2 жыл бұрын

Wet conditions tends to equalise everything more. And Hamilton has won the most wet races of any driver in history

@Drinnan

2 жыл бұрын

Do you mean like when he was karting? Just look at that record coupled with his car racing career and then gp2. Everyone raves about how Alonso is this amazing driver and Rossberg too but he was up there battling with them

@jokebrouwer4118

2 жыл бұрын

spot on!

@vlindstrom

2 жыл бұрын

I agree to an extent, but Lewis has extracted incredible results out of average or even mediocre cars, esp back in the McLaren days. Clearly he was in the best, or close to the best car for years, but he was still driving phenomenally. Would love to see everyone in the same car tho! 🔥

@1993j

2 жыл бұрын

For real. People are so deluded with hate that they are saying this season shows what Lewis is like when it's a fair race, I wouldn't call one team on the grid having major issues a fair race. If Usain Bolt lost a toe and started losing races would everybody start saying 'this is what it would have always been like if it was fair'... F1 fans are just intoxicated with hate these days, I prefer when F1 had a smaller fanbase and people just had a passion for racing, rather than a reasonless hate for the individuals racing.

Hamilton fans 2014-2021: ITS THE DRIVER Hamilton fans in 2022: ITS THE CAR

@uz8587

2 жыл бұрын

Cmon man

@andrewmelton2686

2 жыл бұрын

Hamilton haters 2014-2021 : ITS THE CAR Hamilton haters 2022 : ITS THE DRIVER

@Alumnikiid

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewmelton2686 😅😂💯Check mate. Also Hamilton Haters 2008: Im going to act as if I didnt see that.

@SharkyMoto

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alumnikiid you mean the one where he was gifted the title by glock?

@vincenzofranchelli2201

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alumnikiid you mean the year where for the second time in a row he completely choked away his title chances on lap 1 and was in position to lose again but got saved by rain falling at the perfect time ? Hes a good driver sure. But one of the best, nah. The greatest has to win under pressure with all the odds against him. Hamilton has never won with the odds against him. In 2021 he was given the perfect chance to silence all his haters. That safety car was a blessing in disguise, if he had won simply by a contoversial track limits decision and just driving forward with the fastest car all race that 8th title would mean fuck all. He finally got the perfect chance to silence everyone who says its all luck and hes not the best driver just lucky to be in the best car. And he couldnt even last 4 turns. You think Senna or Schumacher or even Alonso or Vettel wouldnt have been able to defend for just one lap for the title even with bad tyres. I think they would. Hamilton was finally given the chance to prove he could win even with bad luck and a slower car. But he didnt.

"It's the car, not Lewis" I wonder how much of his success can be attributed to the same statement

@cj_superstar9451

2 жыл бұрын

Cry

@xxDxxism

2 жыл бұрын

and everyone casually forgets every chmpion has a winning car

@cj_superstar9451

2 жыл бұрын

@@xxDxxism and if it was only the car every year would have been as close as last season between 2 teammates

@khalidqureshi3168

2 жыл бұрын

I mean max got 3 poles this season and was winning all 3 races before retiring in 2 despite having a '2021 mercedes' like redbull against a '2021 redbull' like ferrari

@davidelliott5843

2 жыл бұрын

Race winning is always abut a good driver in a good car. Remove one or other factor and you don.t get anywhere. Simples.

I regularly agree with your opinions but not this time... why does George keeps nailing it then?

@jalexkenney

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. He makes the claim that they’re both having these problems but never explains why George is doing so much better than Hamilton

@Celvox

2 жыл бұрын

If you look at Imola, both Russel and Hamilton qualified near eachother. Hamilton was less than a tenth off Russel. But you also have to take into consideration the pit lane incident with Albon which put Hamilton into a DRS train while Russel was in open air.

@vin2676

2 жыл бұрын

I read that Hamilton is running more extreme set ups and far more sensors for data as well so merc can improve massively. This means Lewis has more weight and more weird sensors. Which George doesn’t have

@jwill294

2 жыл бұрын

@@jalexkenney I think people don’t realize that Russel is quite possibly the best driver in f1. He’s been outperforming his car throughout his entire f1 career. Hamilton has always had perfect cars, so it makes sense that when car is the problem, Russel is much more experienced overcoming.

@imgood8519

2 жыл бұрын

Becuz George uses a different car than lewis

Could you clear a question up im not sure on but could mercedes change back to having sidepods during the season or are they now stuck with the body with no side pods has for me theres too much floor exposed compared to other teams so makes me wonder weather the floor is too flexable allowing the airflow to detach itself.

When Merc was a good car everybody was saying that the car doesn't matter, it's all in the driver. Now what it's the car.

@Alumnikiid

2 жыл бұрын

False. Everyone knew the MB was faster. There were times Ferrari had a challenging car 2017-2018. When it was LH vs Nico no one said ferrari or RB was faster

@tomlynch7097

2 жыл бұрын

Would u say the sane for red bull now Or IS max AND CHARLES just WAY BETTER DRIVERS lmfao

@quigglyz

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomlynch7097 Nobody is calling Max and Charles "tHe GrEaTeSt DrIvEr oF aLL tImE" like they still do with Lewis. We are simply trying to point out the undeniable fact that the old Mercedes was so fast that a trained monkey could become WDC in it.

@yummykebab6711

2 жыл бұрын

No one was saying that lmao, it was obvious that merc had a better car. That also doesn't mean drivers don't matter though. It's the combo. It's just that merc has an extremely bad car this time

@Ian-jn9zj

2 жыл бұрын

@@yummykebab6711 People without a brain have said that but you are absolutely correct. Drivers are an integral part of the car one does not carry the other they work together.

People seem to forget the reason Lewis has landed in some of the best cars on the grid is because he’s a phenomenal driver and to be fair he’s also shared them with some amazing teammates and how did that work out for them ? Love him or hate him you can’t deny he’s one of the goats.

The backwards Corkscrew example drove me nuts until I realized what I was seeing... lulz... I used to work at Laguna Seca and I was the one who got Google to come do Street View of the track. In the Google Street View I am standing at the apex of the corkscrew with a leg brace on... I am pretty sure I have met Scott at Laguna Seca, in Ann's office, during one of the Rolex Reunion or Historic car events we had there. . . Great to see this channel doing so well! Keep it up!

mate its just 1 race.. saudi. hes been faster than russel than all other races and he almost beat perez in Australia, he catches up to him

@PK-sh9ht

2 жыл бұрын

i think perez didnt push at all having seen max's car dying and having PTSD from 2 weeks earlier

@gru2673

2 жыл бұрын

@@PK-sh9ht actually they were suffering severe tyre wear

@texeract6209

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly Lewis has had better race pace than Russel in almost every race so far. This is coming from a Russel fan

@johnpaullaxa5486

2 жыл бұрын

almost is not enough.. almost is the 1st place for losers

@noomade

2 жыл бұрын

@@texeract6209 Not almost... EVERY. He was faster than Russell in Saudi despite having to run the bad set up they chose for QP

Russel just got 4th place, Hamilton 13th. It is not the car

@Zarphix

2 жыл бұрын

You do known that Ocon hit Hamilton in the pits and due to that got stuck behind a drs train (which in Imola isn't something you can pass through) and Russel got lucky with the turn 1 incident due to being on the best side of the track and being able to smoothly pass those at the bad side of the track where Sainz Ricciardo Bottas collided and gave Russel a free path to go through and if Alpha Romeo didn't mess up Bottas his pit stop he would've passed Russel and if Leclerc didn't spin at the end Russel would've ended the race in 6th and Hamilton if would've been free of the DRS train he could've worked his way up from the 11th position he had. So this race in particular I would say isn't representative at all.

Everyone ignoring Lewis was ahead in Bahrain and Australia, and in Saudi the team themselves mentioned how much of a setup error they made. "Lewis is struggling" LOL. Without DRS, he left Russell behind literally in the last race, the narrative here is so good.

@manu-tonyo9654

2 жыл бұрын

They aren't interested in facts mate, they just want to make themselves feel important. Haters gonna hate.

Interesting Lulu can't drive it and yet Russell is doing well. Maybe just maybe Lulu is not as good as everyone says.

@BaZOOka39

2 жыл бұрын

Dutchie spotted 😂

A question/ possible video idea: How would this years cars perform if there wasn't a reduction in tront/rear wing aero?

They are suffering downforce issues like Mclaren had. Ferrari and RB engines have caught up or even surpassed MB in power.

@Baard2000

2 жыл бұрын

I guess its completely the other way around. Very simple : last year MB was one of the most powerfull ending bc of a discutable decision 2th. How on earth can you wreck the driving characteristics during winter season so incredibly well ???? Thats not possible....unless something happened MB doesnt want us to know. And my guess is that bc of whatever reason they are forced to make the same power as other cars were driving with for years. The MB car therefore has aerodynamics with too less power resulting in a combo that simply doesn't work good. MB will have to come up with a car design which fits the power the engine is making now.

Throughout qualifying, it seemed like the hamilton have a slight edge over russell (disregarding jedah where hamilton just f*cked up the setup), similar to bottas where hamilton just find those few extra tenths when needed. However in race pace, he's got more raw speed over russell, again just like bottas. Could be a mixture of experience and talent. Just shows that most of the problem right now is definitely the car. However during racetrim it seemed to be quite more well balanced and have good tyre management

@karl8805

2 жыл бұрын

In aistralia they were even on race pace, only reason lewis caught up was because george got told to hold pace, and lewis pushed

@alanjm1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@karl8805 WTF are you talking about? Did you even watch the race? Lewis was comfortably ahead of George until the safety car came out immediately after Lewis's pit stop. Pitting under the safety car benefited George by about 10 seconds which is the only reason he got ahead of Lewis.

@karl8805

2 жыл бұрын

@@alanjm1234 but before that they were equal on pace.... i never mentiones him gaining under SC you did George could have held lewis behind but got told not to push..lewis pushed which is why he gained... Read what i said, they were equal on pace

@blessychristo7558

2 жыл бұрын

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@blessychristo7558

2 жыл бұрын

@@alanjm1234 kzread.info/dash/bejne/lGyIr8qOotqffdI.html

The airflow / downforce / groundeffects combination, exerts more of less inside versus outside tension across the tyre building up during acceleration, like sucking. This deformation will cause the bouncing. So you want the tyre surfaces themselves as little as possible part of the air flow mechanics and dynamics exerted by all fins, vents and wings for a free motion. With the pre-2022 old car, the tyres were a forgiving factor, less in play, airflowwise. The sucking could be sufficiently absorbed. With the lower tyre cheek walls, this has dramatically shifted: one side of the tyre is forced to glue to the tarmac, the other part is sucked in other directions, causing the whobbling. Also acceleration impairs sucking effects / counter forces within any rotating system. Look at drag race cars, tyres kind of swelling, lifting the axis. The expansion in one direction pulls at the expansion in the other direction, creating an internal twitching, resulting in porpocing / bouncing. The more arch is connected, per unit of time, the bigger these counter force pressures, in a progressive magnifying amount. The combination of all these factors is, what is happening and may make and break car designs.

Have Scarbs do an analysis of the MB front wing. Why does it look like a 2021 wing and not like everyone else’s wing. This looks to send more air to the t-tray as well as it could be producing more front downforce, causing the air to stall at the t-tray. Thoughts?

Where are all those "Mercedes will fix this by next week" people now?

Lewis can't drive as close to the limit as he wants to. Same goes for Russel then?

@andrewmelton2686

2 жыл бұрын

Affects lewis more since he's a very late braker and porposing makes it harder to pick your braking point

Too much anti-lift in the rear suspension? Less anti-lift means once you tap the brakes it could break the porpoising cycle. Is the porpoising happening at a frequency close to the frequency of the rear suspension? Could that be amplifying it?

George was P4 in Imola with the same car. Indeed, he finished P3 to P5 in all races so far and is over 20 points ahead of Lewis in the driver's championship.

@solace4114

2 жыл бұрын

Different set up , imola russel fell into p4 he didnt cut thru the traffic.. austrailia lewis had bad luck with safety car and russel didnt its very easy to just say russel vs hamilton when luck is on russels side … lewis has a p3 russel has a p3 .. stop the lewis hate .if you really into racing you know what has happened this season stop the trolling

@paulmertens5522

2 жыл бұрын

@@solace4114 In Imola they weren’t able to set up Russel’s front wing properly; they told him this on the radio. So in Imola Russel was actually the one with bad luck. Hamilton also wrongly called to stay on inters while others were switching to slicks. I have huge admiration for Hamilton but he didn’t have bad luck at Imola, he just drove an uncharacteristically bad race.

@franciscocribari

2 жыл бұрын

@@solace4114 Nico Rosberg disagrees with you: "Let's not forget that Russell is in P4 with the same car, so Lewis definitely had a big role to play in that poor result this weekend."

@solace4114

2 жыл бұрын

@@franciscocribari how? Russel fell into p4 he did not cut thru the pack.. did u watch the race or u just like to be divisive ?

@franciscocribari

2 жыл бұрын

@@solace4114 I did watch the race. So did Nico Rosberg. When you take into account (i) qualifying, (ii) sprint race, and (iii) race, you realize that George did a much better job than Lewis. I agree with Nico. Also, George did about 40 laps with his car's front wing incorrectly set up. George was P3, P4 or P5 in all four races so far. He is over 20 points ahead of Lewis.

Is it Mercedes or only Hamilton ? Russel is only driver this yr so far to finish in top 5 all races

By what you say in the first 2 minutes...really makes it look as if he has been spoiled by almost perfect and predictable cars!! ^^

@jamyute6813

2 жыл бұрын

A predictable car is a requirement. How can someone be spoil by a requirement. All manufacturers goal is a predictable car. If they don't produce that then they fail. So u want to go on a plane which is not predictable 🤔?

They need to be able to adjust the amount of downforce by adding a series of “gills” on the bottom of the chassis wing in front of the rear wheels beside the gear box body work. More cutouts, less downforce, and adjust it to the track

Thanks. Brilliant stuff! This is the best explanation to date as to why porpoising affects lap times.

"Nobody could keep the pace with the Ferraris or Red Bulls" Insert George Russell who's able to take the same car & be 2nd in the championship. People aren't knocking him because the car's bad. It's because his own team mate is beating him. "It's the car's fault" is usual Lewis-type excuse for any below par performance.

@e2rqey

2 жыл бұрын

He's second because the RBs keep getting DNFs

@VivekSingh-nl6hs

2 жыл бұрын

What horse shit ? All the podiums Russell has got this year is due to red bulls reliability issue .. if that wasnt there neither Russell nor Ham would have made points

@lw1878

2 жыл бұрын

When you use stats to explain a situation without causality. Well done.

@e2rqey

2 жыл бұрын

@@VivekSingh-nl6hs never underestimate the mental gymnastics people will do to hate on Lewis Hamilton

@andrewmelton2686

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

At 3:47 he had correction in a corner. He NEVER CORRECTS in a corner it's clean. You sees the wheel just jerks. That car is absolute trash right now :D

@Olivyay

2 жыл бұрын

That was from the Silverstone shakedown, he wasn't pushing.

@MrPottsTeaching

2 жыл бұрын

@@Olivyay I would take this season like a testing season. for tha Merc. Since they couldnt get testing time. They can use tha whole season as testing time.

Having the fastest car on the grid for years: "It's Lewis, not the car!" Having an average car: "It's the car, not Lewis!"

Max lapping him today was so funny

Lewis Achievements PRE-Mercedes: Karting - 1995 Super 1 National IAME Cadet Championship - 1996 Kartmasters British Grand Prix - Comer Cadet - 1997 Super 1 National Formula Yamaha Championship - 1999 29° Torneo Industrie Open - IC - 2000 World Cup Formula A - 2000 European Championship Formula A Racing - 2003 Formula Renault 2.0 UK - 2004 Bahrain F3 Superprix - 2005 Masters of Formula 3 - 2005 Formula 3 Euro Series - 2006 GP2 Series - 2008 FIA F1 Championship (McLaren) Notable mention: - 2007 2nd FIA F1 Championship (McLaren) - lost out by 1pt in his Rookie year.

@0megalul309

2 жыл бұрын

2008-2013? He still had a top 2 car except for 2009 where he got the 3rd best car.

@sakethedpuganti5697

2 жыл бұрын

Many other drivers were just as successful before coming to F1. Nothing special about Lewis

@alalal123421

2 жыл бұрын

@@sakethedpuganti5697 you have to be absolutely delusional to say that

@eddi3m

2 жыл бұрын

@@0megalul309 and yet he still managed to win two Grand Prix in 2009.

@alalal123421

2 жыл бұрын

@@0megalul309 and he outperformed his teammates aside from button in 2011, top 2 car what

80% the car 20% the driver. When will people finally understand this. 🤦🏻‍♂️

@quigglyz

2 жыл бұрын

Literally never. They need Ham to be the goat because it helps them relieve the racial guilt their society tells them to feel. Brits are masochists.

Thank you ...that was a nicely balanced and concise summary....

This new guy scott is pretty good. He's no Scarbs but he seems to know his stuff

"It's the car, not Lewis" Well that aged like milk out in the sun

Lewis is not that special with a top 3 car. Simple. Lewis will struggle to keep up with Russell.

@r1ckyy-

2 жыл бұрын

Russell is over him currently.

Is there any concern that one of these new cars will catch air from porposing like the 99 Merc CLR at LM ?

Wait. How do you even get into a porpoising scenario anyway? It sounds like it can only be suspension-induced. This needs to be explained.

There is a solution for this car though, as there is for all others. They're trying to find the best possible one for their bouncing issue. Once that is out of the way, they can start finding other performance key points, like weight , power/reliability ratio and drag. It might be too far along for this championship contention but we will see a tighter group of cars by the end of the season and, most importantly, for next season.

@Dorfus2323

2 жыл бұрын

Weight? they got rid of most of the weight by getting rid of the sidepods and using weak floors and afterwards complaining and receiving help once more from the FIA. And with nearly no downforce they were over 10 km/h slower than Ferrari on the straights. You could see it with all the Mercedes powered cars, no top speed. When they were dominating the past years.

It's annoying to see people saying he's done after 3 races. He's still pretty even with George beside from Saudi qualifying he's been just as good as George

@keivngibbs2897

2 жыл бұрын

Better actually

@MMAli-rq8kd

2 жыл бұрын

Faster in race pace in Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and Melbourne (3/3). Faster in qualifying in Bahrain, and Saudi Arabia (2/3). *Results and Numbers* Russell is a great talent and I expect him to become one of the best with experience.

@hawkgeoff

2 жыл бұрын

@@keivngibbs2897 how do you figure? Personally I think it's too soon to tell, but GR looks to have every bit as much pace and racecraft... should be interesting moving forward

@keivngibbs2897

2 жыл бұрын

@@hawkgeoff guy above you explained.. George is fantastic but if we look at numbers baring in mind reasons for finishing place ..he's out performing George. But at this point people are just wanting Hamilton to fail. If he doesn't then how can they not says he's the Goat.

@hawkgeoff

2 жыл бұрын

@@keivngibbs2897 The argument is fair to make that he's the GOAT as long as you're not trying to insinuate that he's actually the greatest driver ever. Success and driving ability are dramatically different criteria.

Brilliant technical analysis. Awesome refence to the data. Unbiased and spot on!

YO i don't know how I wasn't subscribed before, thought i was. Love your vids G

No driver can win in this year's merc's car, yes. But any driver could win in the previous years' merc car too

@TheRad4manthys

2 жыл бұрын

Bottas didn't

@vishnusimba6136

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRad4manthys Bottas wasn't allowed to. He is very much capable of a WDC, if not for driver preference. Now he tails behind George Russell in an Alfa Romeo. Explains his capabilties that much easily.

because for the first time in years other teams were allowed to make a new car... one race later, Mercedes is out of contention... nuff said...

@dsmith2420

2 жыл бұрын

They’re literally in second place after three whole races lol

@chrisbee9643

2 жыл бұрын

@@dsmith2420 :D once RB is finishing, they should be worried to hold the 3rd vs McLaren. ;) And you know, this is a fact. ;) They wont win a single race in 2022 ;)

IMO its from the new aero...you go from a high speed/relatively straight line...to turning or angled windage....and its somewhat obvious across the range that this is the commonality/issue with the porposing You go from one coefficient in the high speed/straight zone....and windage is "effective" with the downforce/aero but as you turn/initiate or brake initiate and start to shift overall geometry...its an oscillation Of force on a constant basis each second/speed shift from break/initiation to mid corner/exit accel. Including angle/g and how these all affect downforce/directional force based on aero. I just hope the majority of drivers can stay safe and make it through this season so that they can get back to dialing this cars in from mercs team to others. Even when seasons are seemingly blown...they still have races/tracks to gain important data from.

Nice explanation. Thanks.

"definitely the cars, not the drivers" that doesn't explain why Russel is being consistently better than Hamilton

@Stumptdragon5

2 жыл бұрын

Because they are being given two drastically different set ups to compensate for the s**t car two so have drastically different cars

@johnsmith-ky5qg

2 жыл бұрын

One of the main reasons is that George never had the reliability and smooth ride of previous mercs for years. He would naturally be more comfortable in a less than great car as it is more what he has been used to at Williams. Basically he adapted his driving faster. Does that make him a better driver than Lewis? Ask me after he has won 8 WDC. Same applies to Max. No matter how fast the car it still has to be driven consistently week after week, something that Lewis was very good at. Fingers crossed that merc sorts it out soon.

Thanks for the content. There are so many bad comments, to win a race : you need an excellent driver + a very competitive car + a good team behind it with good strategy and settings. So before accusing the drivers people even journalists should think about that.

@LGNmus1c

2 жыл бұрын

I think so many people forget about the engineers behind every team. You can’t have one without the other.

It's more like why HAM is so off the pace whereas RUS is going quite well! It's something similar to when JB was making the most of the McLaren in 2012 and HAM couldn't. Don't understand why Toto is so apologetic about it. The driver is supposed to bring the best out of the car, not simply win when the car is good. Look at ALO in 2012 when he almost dragged the slower car to championship glory.

Can they put stops on the suspension so the car can't get too close to the road and lose the fast airflow under the floor?

Thanks for the content

You tried to deflect from the point but said nothing to disprove it. Hamilton does not perform when he doesn't have a dominant car. 2009-12 he had a competitive car and failed. Now we see him in an upper midfield car and has only walked away with points from all 3 weekends due to luck. George, who the last time he was in a Merc would have won handily had it not been for a shoddy pit crew and a puncture, is second in the championship. He only has that second place due to the same luck, but he has elevated the car unlike Hamilton who for his whole career has depended on it.

@alexlacl8730

2 жыл бұрын

2009 he won 2 races and 4 poles with one of the most slowest cars. He was the best driver this year 2010 Lewis did a miracle for fighting for the wdc with the 3rd best car overall until the final race. Alonso and Lewis deserved the most 2011 was bizarre year for him. On the first half season he had 2 stunning wins and multiples podiums. 2012 hamilton was the most fastest driver. 4 wins and 7 poles he could have at least 4 more wins without bad luck, bad reliability, bad pitstop and strategy or people crashing into him. He was A LOT unlucky this year. So on this period he should won 2010 and 2012 but was unlucky these year

@0megalul309

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexlacl8730 keep crying. Alonso in a slower ferrari beat his ass from 2010/2012

@Euclides287

2 жыл бұрын

How many races did Kovalainen win in that dog of the *2009* McLaren? 🤔 🤔

@alexlacl8730

2 жыл бұрын

@@0megalul309 Ferrari was better than mclaren in 2010 Alonso himself said that he had the better car most of times

@hawkgeoff

2 жыл бұрын

@@Euclides287 Kovawho?

Color correction on the face is off, seems like you hace a hematoma or bruise up. Lower the intensity of orange and maybe play with tint instead.

Merc is also slower at the end of straights because they have been forced to run the car high to avoid too much porpoising, losing underbody downforce as a result, and needing to compensate with high wing angles generating more drag.

what if ... Alonso drive that car? he did pull out some good laps on Ferrari F14T vacuum car

@ForzaVryheid

2 жыл бұрын

You will trigger the fanboys on here! 🙊

First of all Lewis is a hell of a driver, being that said, he also has been VERY LUCKY to be on the best car on the grid for the past years. of the 20 drivers out there, most probably 5-10 of them would had the same WC´s if they were on the merc instead of Lewis. skills take about 50-40% of the whole deal, which , almost all the drivers have already i.e. Alonso, Max, Leclerc to name the best of them. if this new regulations have shown something is that yes, Cars make drivers win WC´s and not the other way around. Look at checo performance after he went to RB, look at Leclerc situation right now. if you are in one of those 5-10 drivers, you will rank up if you are given a faster car (sorry gasly, Albon) few drivers can make that % difference to win over faster machines. (2021 Max is a good example). Merc will come around eventually and gain some time thats for sure, but without the faster car, it will not take championships anymore, doesnt matter if its hamilton or freaking Senna.

@DeLaCroix1211

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe 5-10 drivers would win titles in the Merc if Lewis wasn't there but only Alonso or Max would be able to compete against Hamilton as a teammate

@Querientje

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeLaCroix1211 well he lost to rosberg and button

@mick8473

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeLaCroix1211 Norris would get the better of him also Leclerc and Vettel at his peak. They've both beaten him in inferior Ferraris.

@DeLaCroix1211

2 жыл бұрын

@@Querientje So since 2007 he's only lost to a teammate twice, that's pretty good going if you ask me

@DeLaCroix1211

2 жыл бұрын

@@mick8473 Yeahhh that's just not true is it. Vettel failed miserably to beat Hamilton, Norris hasn't even won a GP let alone been in a championship fight. Leclerc could prove himself this year now he's racing for a title

F1 teams spended millions of dollars on wind tunnel technology but it failed to inform them about porpoising. 😂😂😂

What is the tire coating giving them a shiny painted look??

Proves what we all knew: to win you need a spectacular car. Lewis was lucky to have driven a superior car for 8 straight seasons when it was sufficient to beat his team mate

For the English : If Lewis is winning, is the driver If Lewis is not winning is the car Got it!

A F1 with in Corkscrew??? Are you serious?.. Im kidding! I love your channel and your work. Congrat!

i have a question, that is unrelated to this video. does an f1 driver feel a lockup in the wheels through the brakes (under his left foot)?

Let's see, Lewis vs his superstar 24 year old, generational talent, teammate: Bahrain - Lewis Faster over 1 lap, Lewis faster Race Pace. Saudi - Russell faster over 1 lap (Merc gambles on LH's setup and get's it wrong), Lewis faster Race Pace (despite keeping bad setup). Australia - Lewis Faster over 1 lap. Lewis faster Race pace. conclusion: The old man is still a beast!

@johnnychimpo7539

2 жыл бұрын

He’s still got it

@scroopynooperz9051

2 жыл бұрын

"Nonsense. Russell is the greatest driver in the history of the universe and Hamilton had all his titles handed to him.. coz affirmative actionz!" - Casual F1 mouthbreathers 🤣

@republikadugave420

2 жыл бұрын

You are streching reality...russell is second in championship my man

@thomasschraubt7497

2 жыл бұрын

@@republikadugave420 This then means Russell is the second fastest driver in the second fastest car? What a nice reality.

@republikadugave420

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomasschraubt7497 well he is second in championship...you do not need higher education to see this

Kubica got's that magic :) Hamilton not ? Cheers :)

That would be nice if F1 raced at Laguna Seca in this illustration at the 3:35 mark.

In regards to porpoising: Ted Kravitz interestingly pointed out during the grid walk before the sprint about the thin sidepod of Mercedes not contributing to a solid structural support for the wide floor.

@Deanooooo

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, they showed the wire supports they had to attach the floor.

It's not really nonsense that Hamilton has been spoiled by great cars. He started out at Mclaren his rookie year and they were one of the best teams back then. Then we all know the merc story so yea....I'm not saying it's exposing him as a bad driver but just the fact that he has definitely been spoiled by nice cars.

@aimanazrie8944

2 жыл бұрын

good for him then, because he entered McLaren thanks to him actually being excellent in his karting days. but I don't think everyone knows about the Merc story like back then though. it was like going from a top 3 team to a midfield team. but then Merc surprisingly build a good car during the start of the turbo hybrid era.

The Mercedes is good enough for 4th place with the right driver, but an inferior driver can probably only finish around 13th.

@joelgleave183

2 жыл бұрын

😳

@prudence9991

2 жыл бұрын

Did you call schumacher an inferior driver when he drove for Mercedes after Ferrari? He didnt gain any extra wins. Or did schumachers track record still make him the best f1 driver of that generation? Noone could beat his world records till Hamilton came along. And you say Hamilton is inferior to a driver who hasnt even won a race yet 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

arnt they second in constructors ? how far can they be off the pace ?

He has beaten russell 2/3 in quali and in the race if it wasn‘t for bad luck in australia he would have also beaten him 2 out of 3 races.. I don‘t get why some media (not you guys) are saying he is struggling

What’s scary is - imagine Mercedes fix the issue! They will be rapid!! It shows how good that Mercedes is once the issues are solved!

@benny8487

2 жыл бұрын

They wont just fix it overnight. Solutions to 1 problem always create another. The other teams will have time during that to bring upgrades of their own.

@slicklace

2 жыл бұрын

@@benny8487 exactly, otherwise they’d had fixed it by now! It will take time. But fundamentally that car is quick! But no one knows how quick at this stage.

@sh-spectrum409

2 жыл бұрын

@@benny8487 This. Likelihood is if they do cure the issues then they'll probably be fighting only for 2nd in the Championship.

@slicklace

2 жыл бұрын

@@sh-spectrum409 probably! As it will be too late! But don’t forget they are a lot of races still left. Never say never.

@jkliao6486

2 жыл бұрын

Based on the assumption it can be fixed. Before the winter test, people are unanimously saying merc will dominate again, after the winter test, people are unanimously saying merc will fix their car and start dominating in Q3. And 3 races in, people are unanimously claiming merc will fix their car and it will start dominating. I'm sensing a trend here.

It’s funny to see Merc winging about drag. Their car has always had more drag but they had enough of an advantage with the PU to overcome it.

thanks....you are really smart. i'm an lh fan but only understand some basic things. you are really explained it in a down to earth way

Haha the title is so misplaced, and directly corrected. But i guess you guys really wanted this spicy title 😂

Last year: It's not the car, it's Lewis! This year: It's not Lewis, it's the car!

Why in the world are you defending Hamilton so much? Seen Russel? What place was he today?😉 So its no excuse for Hamilton to complain this much! Where was Verstappen? Did he see the behind from Lewis? Yes for sure, but after he lapped him, lol, who goes around comes around!! If not 2 races engine failure he would stand first in the championship and you all know that!😁

@dracarys_CM

2 жыл бұрын

What happened today?

@azure89

Жыл бұрын

Lewis beat Russell convincingly these past 5 races!

That F1 tempo site is cool!!

I wanna see what they can do with it Interesting things happening this year!

He's struggling because the car is a mess right now. Simple answer.

@tylaburnett9756

2 жыл бұрын

Russell is second in the standings. Is that cause the car is a mess as well?

@streuthmonkey1

2 жыл бұрын

Russel is doing far better. he is struggling because he has never had a challenging car to drive since entering F1.

@rory_3421

2 жыл бұрын

hes been faster than Russel in race pace at Bahrain and Australia

@kaderdia_pr17

2 жыл бұрын

In Melbourne, Georges hard Luck with the SC, so he did better than Lewis only on the second race

@rory_3421

2 жыл бұрын

@@streuthmonkey1 have you watched lewis in his mclaren years, the cars after 2009 were awful

Well said...it's the car, not Lewis. That logic needs to be applied when he is winning too :)

@Alumnikiid

2 жыл бұрын

Same for every driver. Leclerc was not winning races last year. Max started winning WDC when his car became faster in 2021. Was winning 1-3 races a season from 2018-2020. Thats how this works welcome to motor racing. Yall try to make “the car” exclusive to LH. Legends had great cars during their WDC seasons.

@yeahright4659

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alumnikiid Very true. Hence the reason why Lewis is struggling now. It's the same for everyone. There is a reason why there is a 1000-person team behind every F1 duo.

@Alumnikiid

2 жыл бұрын

@@yeahright4659 However he won vs great drivers in same car. We saw Max when he had prime Riccardo as teammate. Its challenging having a good teammate vs rival in other team

@yeahright4659

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alumnikiid ahhhhh...he also lost to Rosberg.

@Alumnikiid

2 жыл бұрын

@@yeahright4659 Never said he was undefeated. Said he was able to beat great drivers in same car.

Consistently P5 is not "SO FAR off the Pace". The young pup has started strong and shown what the car can do. It really highlights that when a guy has been spoiled for the last 14 or so years in the fastest car on the track he loses the fighting edge of someone who just came out of a perpetual Williams back marker and has had to dig deep to move forward. Time for the old dog to be sent out to the farm to retire.... I am sure some race fans would be okay with the "out to the farm" having the same meaning as when my parent took my old dog "to the farm".

Imagine if they add Porpoising in the F1 video game!