Why Lower Decks is the Best Star Trek in Decades
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Star Trek: Lower Decks follows the escapades of a group of junior officers on one of Starfleet's least important ships. But in my view, the show has some of the most meaningful things to say out of all modern Trek.
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- CHAPTERS -
00:00 Intro
01:27 Disclaimer
02:39 Background
09:05 Season 1
27:06 Sponsored Segment
28:49 Season 2
45:37 A Change of Scenery
48:44 Season 3
1:02:18 Growing Up
1:04:48 Season 4
1:41:36 Lower Decks' Purpose
1:47:47 Final Thoughts & Outro
1:51:31 Bloopers
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ATTENTION BAJORAN WORKERS: - Number one, I regret that I was unable to deliver this video in 4K. But after over half a dozen attempts at uploading, this is the only cut that has (SO FAR) remained free of copyright claims. - Number two, unfortunately the extended cut is NOT available for members as it was blocked worldwide due to, again, copyright claims. The Patreon version is up however, and you can access that at the link in the description. - Number three, I apologize for the inconsistent audio throughout the video. During filming of my commentary for seasons 1 & 2, we had an issue with my lav mic, so I had to switch to backup audio - Number four, Fred Tatasciore who voices Shaxs also voiced Saren in Mass Effect. Can't believe I forgot that! Finally, here's the link to Kinzie's video again: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gGlltKedqKy4nLg.html
@MrRurounismc
26 күн бұрын
I mostly know Fred Tatasciore from Overwatch where hes Soldier 76! But dude is in all kinds of stuff!
@rlrfproductions
26 күн бұрын
Number five, here are links to the Tendi merch pictured:... 🙏
@OrangeRiver
26 күн бұрын
My merch store link is in the description!
@tobiwonkanogy2975
26 күн бұрын
i cant say i saw this video coming from you , i know you had a cursory interest in it but i was unaware that you were watching it. I appreciate the coverage as its on its way out , not to stave off a season end but to spread the word at how capable it is.
@SweetSweetCandyBoyz
24 күн бұрын
The copyright dragons are always circling, you see? They have great vision during the day, and even better vision at night. But in the failing light, just before nightfall, they can't focus. Magic hour.
Given that they've said Lower Decks is now cancelled, it is very sad
You could sum-up a lot of the vibe of this show as “What if Red Dwarf took place in the Star Trek universe?”
My cat isn’t old enough to watch this.
Lower Decks surprised and impressed me which hadn't happened with a TV series since Matt Smith took over as Doctor Who
Everyone should be watching this show. Any fan that isn't into it just didn't make it past the second episode. This is the best show ever.
Genuinely appreciate the disclaimer! It's great to have kid-safe stuff to listen to while they're around, and if a video isn't it's nice to know.
@OrangeRiver
26 күн бұрын
Glad it was useful!
Tendi dislocating her jaw ... HOT. lmfao
@spencerkoelle184
25 күн бұрын
Some people think it's hot too, but for very, very different reasons than you probably do
I realized early on that they were going for 'fun' first and 'funny' was secondary, that perspective helped make Lower Decks my favorite of the newer shows.
@a.jherbert5436
26 күн бұрын
True. I love lower desks, but I wouldn't call it funny. More of like a "How would normal, modern human beings react to all this weird shit?". I think it's super fun.
@nardpuncher
25 күн бұрын
Yeah. I would have to say I like it, but I don't think I've ever laughed out loud at it.
@stephenjohnston7630
25 күн бұрын
@@a.jherbert5436Or perhaps specifically "how would modern normal Star Trek fans react to being in Starfleet and all this weird shit?".
Are we all gonna petition Paramount or what? This show has “heart”, which is different than “emotion” shown in Disco. Also, I love Tendi too. She’s like the epitome of Trek. Fight me… and I’ll just stun you and win you over with my enthusiasm after you’ve recovered.
That mass effect soundtrack always making me smile
@OrangeRiver
24 күн бұрын
Let's go 😎 For some reason, the Virmire ride REALLY fits Crisis Point
It's certainly more Trek than any current live action Trek.
thank you for not scheduling this for days in advance so i don't have a premiere i can't even watch in my sub feed for days and then when it actually goes live i don't see it because it's too far down the feed.
@Aragorn7884
26 күн бұрын
Agreed!!! 😅
@OrangeRiver
26 күн бұрын
Yeah I normally don't do premieres for that reason lol
@suzygirl1843
24 күн бұрын
@@OrangeRiver All I think about when it comes to these altruistic future concepts is how white men misjudged how the future will be. I think Joss Whedon got it right, or is the closest. In the far future in space, EVERYONE will be speaking Chinese Mandarin. You're already seeing the shift in dynamic with Eastern global influence. The West is in decline, they are losing power and influence and ultimately the winner will be China because of their business sense and not having blown up bridges with other countries and communities.
@OrangeRiver
19 күн бұрын
@suzygirl1843 That's a really...random direction to take the conversation 😂
@ennayanne
19 күн бұрын
@@OrangeRiver what did they say it's gone now 🥹
Lower Decks accomplished so much. It was a love letter to the original animated series, it brought in callbacks and check ins with stories and characters the fandom wanted to return to, and gave us a group of characters that were engaging not just because they were serious about their careers, but because they could be fleshed out characters that existed outside of their role within the workplace
It's freaking funny. Moopsy was my favorite. All hail Moopsy.
Your refusal to do the Peanut Hamper episode throws the barby out with the newspaper.
I liked the idea of Badgy in that there have been a number of holodeck programs that have gone rouge or gibe beyond their programming. Might not have been the best way they could have done it, but he grew on me over time.
@TheMysteryDriver
26 күн бұрын
It's probably how much clippy you were exposed to effecting the way one feels about badgey.
I'm commander Worf and this is my favorite program on the Holodeck.
A lot of deep thought and a lot of fun too.
the best compliment that this show could've gotten is my friend, that hates cartoons, not really into star trek (so doesn't know all the references) LOVES this show. i think that says enough.
Lower Decks became one of my favorite Trek shows since episode 1 season 1
i will pay money for my lower Decks
I really love this show. It has grown on me so much. I am super disappointed to hear that it will be ending after the next season. Could have easily done 10 imo.
As a kid I was a sci-fi junkie and a Star Trek TOS fan, but one of my favorite comedy routines in high school was "Star Trip," an audio theater routine by the Congress of Wonders. An mp3 version of the original vinyl LP is available online.
I just started watching this show recently and I have to admit that I'm really pleasantly surprised just how good it actually is. Animation and Voice Acting are both really solid, and episodes have been way better written than I expected. It's got a twinge of that Millennial quippy-ness that you see in a lot of adult cartoons, but it's still really solid. I was worried it was going to be a "he's....right behind me, isn't he?" type show and never actually gave it a chance
It's hard to describe the rage I feel over the cancellation of this show.
Decades? Star Trek: Destiny was only 15 years ago! :3 Edit: Just finished the video, and this was such a great presentation of and commentary on Lower Decks and its place in the broader franchise. I absolutely agree with you about it providing some much-needed commentary on Starfleet, and I love how deep the characters ended up. Thanks for a great piece!
I am sad its ending before all the characters get to the end of their arcs. I thought it would be the one new trek show to go past 5 seasons. I really wanted to see these characters grow from nobodies to the finest command crew in the fleet....
Well, Tyler, I have no dog to hide...
Lower Decks achieved what no other Star Trek show of this era could, it was likeable
Mariners behaviour is important it might not be the Enterprise, but its still Star Fleet.
Nice video as usual Tyler! Def will have to check out Lower Decks.
it Was good. the only reason I kept my paramoutplus, all for a weekend binge of this show once a year. oh well
I like your suggestion of rewatching the early seasons thru the lens of S4. I should add that I’m glad I started this video over - I initially started watching when it premiered & had no idea what you were doing with the looped Kamala Harris clip. Starting over let me see the opening bit of “real talk” about you going very far with memes & such. Tendi is my favorite character too, but more because she’s a big cinnamon roll of a character. I think that’s why the episode where she turns into a scorpion is one of my favorites.
@OrangeRiver
26 күн бұрын
Yeah I normally don't do premieres for a lot of reasons--glad you enjoyed the video! Rewatching through the lens of season 4 has indeed given me a newfound appreciation for the series
@suzygirl1843
25 күн бұрын
@@OrangeRiver Tawny Newsome looks like Candice Patton
As a nearly life long trekkie/trekker/whatever... I like to state that Lower Decks is so awesome. And the writers and cast nailed it from the start. Such a good show. 🤩
Just finished the video. NSFW Tendi making an appearance was unexpected...Glad to know it's not relegated to a closet! Also, T'Lyn is absolutely my Tendi haha.
@beezelbuzzel
25 күн бұрын
Oh! I'm featured in the credits! Thanks man!
I really love that show, am not a huge fan of new Trek and this was the first thing I watched of it and it become an insta watch when a new episode came out, got me to watch Star Trek New Worlds which I find pretty good too.
Nice work. Thanks for putting this together
@OrangeRiver
26 күн бұрын
Thank you!
As a fellow Alian enjoyer i appreciate how open you are about your feelings about the green lady.
Yooo i love the production your putting into this! Haha
@jayfakhuri
8 күн бұрын
New Subscriber from Portland, OR!
I initially avoided STLD, but when I heard about the crossover, I thought I should watch it. I’m so glad I did. Now, I want more live action with the Lower Decks five.
I can't even begin to explain how much it pisses me off and ultimately disappoints me that they cancelled the show following the fifth season. It was just starting to hit a stride.
@hellacoorinna9995
17 күн бұрын
Time to write in
The strange new worlds cross over should be included too, it’s essential a Lower decks episode, and great.
The heavy Tendi breathing while in the bed… will never not be adorably cringe!
I just love the way T'lyn says "Sir" after "Live long and prosper" xD
Tindi Obsessive jokes to one side? Good video. My thoughts on the Pakled in Lower Decks. We have actually seen Pakled on DS9 in the background. So they clearly are able to trade and do honest business. What we see are largely those elements that have been scrapping and junking dominion war era salvage and have been emboldened. Those that are on Pakled Planet and their yearly revolution and general 'dopey' personalities contrasting with otherwise very sturdy and substantive construction based on the buildings and architecture we see? I view it as an alien mindset. they have a biological want for immediacy. Likely due to pre historic possibly even as far back as paliolithic era shortages and enviromental factors that led to those that sought immediate gains as being able to survive long enough. This tracks with how robust their physiology is (assuming short term vacuum survival wasn't a joke.... that they didn't have to immediate get medical attention was jawdroppingly ... wow.) Mentally i'd put them as... Smart, but their values structure is different than us. They probably are the relative late bloomers of the region and saw that everyone around them already HAD things. Probably were treated as simpletons given their mindset and general way of things. Likely a very initially trusting society and people since subterfuge just takes up too much time and effort. They arne't stupid. Far from it. You don't figure out how to get breen federation cardassian klingon and Q alone knows what other systems talking to eachother by being Stupid. Plus as the tamranians have shown the universal translator isn't perfect and Pakled syntax seems to have too many words that are all encompassing. Or they've literally used 'Picard' as their word for 'starfleet captain'. Plus given how many wonder solutions the federation will pull out of fat air on a dime can you fault any of them for just going wit hthe idea the federation isn't bullshitting them?
I'm with you that hte Mariner and Ma'ha therapy session is one of the lower decks series high points. Let dude show up as a provisional on the ceritos. Him and Shax would get along great.
I think it's adorable how you thought this was too racy for youtube. This was great!
@OrangeRiver
18 күн бұрын
😂 Evidently, they've had more of an issue with my attempts to skirt copyright claims. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Mariner is my favorite character
Wow, great breakdown Tyler! I'm glad you made it 2 hours. I fell in love with Lower Decks from the beginning. I'll confess I've got the hots for the Vulcan T'lyn ( I know, bad spelling). Just something about those Vulcan women and their logic! 🤣. Can't wait for season 5! 🖖😎🤘🇨🇦🕊️
I love the ships name because it sounds like a corn chip manufacturer.
This show has done more to legitimize the animated series than I ever thought was possible. The cross references in general felt more like taking proper advantage of the rich history of the franchise, rather than just token nostalgia.
Lower Decks is the best Star Trek since DS9.
I feel the same way about Holo from spice and wolf. Look her up.
I love Lower decks!
I agree about looking forward to next season! Bums me out that we’re only getting one more. I was hoping they’d get back to the tng era of giving us at least 7 seasons.
Don't worry, bro, you're not the only golf loving trek nerd!
This was a nice recap and exploration, but the extra skits in between, especially with indistinct audio, were things I could've done without.
@OrangeRiver
18 күн бұрын
Yeah, God forbid I inject some level of personality into my videos :0
Are you the voice actor for Bird Person?
Hide my dog? 🥺 What.... Mavro, let's watch this one, buddy, gooood boy.....
All hail the Mistress of the Winter Constellations!
Lower decks is my second favorite Star Trek show.
@timewarpdrive77
7 күн бұрын
I assume this is the only Star Trek show you've watched?
@jacksondavis8940
7 күн бұрын
@@timewarpdrive77 I have watched TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT and the fort season of Picard (sorry I don’t know the three letter abbreviation of Picard) and ENT is my favorite so I have weird taste and I know it.
Fascinating!
tyler huffed the orion pheromones a little too deeply in this episode I think
Its a fun show with just a rough first season like most shows tbh. Its fun if you engage it with the idea thats its silly and made for fun over the story and themes. But its enjoyable I liked it atleast better than discovery pretty good branch out for startrek wish more series had some fun little side stuff like this. Just dont take it seriously if you enjoy startrek and push through that first season and its good and enjoyable a fun watch.
Wow, now thats a ship of the line. It has the lines of the Excelsior and Spacedock combined. Not sure about the nacelles being on their sides. Overall an excellent design, would've loved to see it in action. Is Space Engine able to do battle sequences?
I was born in 1967, so if I ever saw the first airings of the original series, I can't say but I did grow up watching TOS and the animated series followed by the movies and all of the newer Star Trek TV shows over the years. THAT SAID, Lower Decks is my favorite of them all. Feel free to disagree with me but Lower Decks reminds us in every episode whet we love most about the entire spectrum of Star Trek.
EUGENE CORDERO rocked it on Tacoma FD... Watch it!!
I love the show. I think it's hilarious. Steve Shives says it's not funny but I don't know how he says that. The humor is very insider. It's probably not going to be all that funny if you don't know the 90s shows pretty well. But Steve does so I don't know how he doesn't get it. They have to come to grips with the multitude of alien ethical standards. I love how they make fun of the officer's penchant for poetry readings and one act plays.
@spooforbrains
7 күн бұрын
I worked out quickly that Shives has opinions that disagree with me own on basically every element of Trek. Now, I'm not saying that mine are correct and his are wrong and I am right and his opinions are terrible ... I'm not saying that ...
@PaulTheSkeptic
7 күн бұрын
@@spooforbrains I hear you. It's all very subjective. But I do like DS9 as he does. But I still don't understand how he says LD isn't funny.
Criminal they cancelled it, especially since it's way cheaper to make than your Discos etc, but we can't have it being firmly based on optimistic golden era trek and putting most of NuTrek to shame now can we? :) All those who've been convinced into not watching it by a single trailer, and by popular KZreadrs vociferously trashing it based entirely on said trailer, might bear some blame and don't know what they're missing out on, but perhaps the fanbase of 'true' trekkies is also too small to sustain the viewing figures necessary for modern shows.
Lower decks is definitely the best new trek. 😊🎉 😂
Hearing that Samus fanfare in this video.....oh yeah
Hold on is that cup part of the mycelium network?
Well ... I'm glad for others that enjoy it :D
oh god ... whos going to tell him?.... I just heard yesterday so this just might be a unfortunate coincidence. But I do really like your content keep up the great work.
I just found out they cancelled Lower Decks.... Will season 5 be released!?!?!?!
@OrangeRiver
22 күн бұрын
Yep, this fall
I have enjoyed LD so much- very sad its ending, but All Good Things, neh?
I SO NEED your T-shirt! 🖖
@OrangeRiver
26 күн бұрын
Merch link in the video description! (Oh, wait, if you're talking about my custom-designed T-shirt that is. The Cerritos one is from the Paramount shop lol)
Hold on now. At no point in the video did you warn us there'd be spoilers! Geezs bud, just a little heads up would be nice. -s
I think, the only thing I disliked theough everything, was just the Paklids... Because of bow derpy they are by nature.
Oh my funny God. Or I just pissed my pants. You are awesome. Star trek 2 me was always G Roddenberry's future. It's not our future but maybe our great great great great grandchildren x. Bbttww I 💕 peanut hamper
>recognizes Tendi is Best Girl You are a gentleman of taste.
@suzygirl1843
25 күн бұрын
Tendi is not the best girl
@StrangeCreed
25 күн бұрын
@@suzygirl1843 You are entitled to your (incorrect) opinion.
I think Lower Decks is the only new Star Trek show that actually feels like Star Trek. I would put it in 4th place too, behind DS9, TNG, and TOS. It is a shame it is getting canceled. I hope another streaming service picks it up.
O want a 6. Season 😢
@Sephiroth144
12 күн бұрын
And a movie
You had me at profanity. Subscribed!
I really enjoy LD, but I prefer SNW more ❤
Im super confused.... what about Star Trek: Prodigy ? Or has someone else mentioned that?
@OrangeRiver
22 күн бұрын
Haha, what about it?
@Eral_from_Earth
22 күн бұрын
@@OrangeRiver ha ha oh its like that!
Lover decks are awesome love it
29:51 Well, now I have to watch the show and turn on subtitles just to have the slightest idea what she said. I hear: "Mussels don't date birds." Which, tbf, seems reasonable.
100% ❤ it.
I would watch the show, but my phase inducer got decoupled after Worf's first poker loss.
I was initially dead set against Lower Decks, when it was first announced. I just though it was another new Trek nonsense, and the way the concept was pitched to me put me off. All that has changed now having watched it. It's great. Obviously it's not TNG, but it's not trying to be. It's a bit of fun, and the people making it clearly love the source material and understand it. Something that can't be said about the producers of most of the new Trek stuff. Yeah it's easter-eggy, but in the context of this show I'm ok with that Looking forward to season 5, sad it's the last one
I dunno. The series Chuck was great and that was late 2000s early 2010s. Though I guess one show isn't enough to consider all TV as a whole.
If a Trek fan dismisses this show for any reason... Fine. But it's truly their loss, it's five seasons of both humor, fun and surprising heart that very often rises to the heights of what I think is peak Star Trek alongside some of the best series and episodes of the franchise. I was thinking it was just gonna be mildly diverting but it's so much fun and it is always honoring Trek as a whole. More LD content please Tyler.
@MarvelDcImage
26 күн бұрын
Duck Dodgers in Space was funnier.
I wish there was an option to watch it uncensored/without the bleeps
#SaveStarTrekLowerDecks
Hey man, decades imply more than one, and as far as I know season 4 of enterprise was PEAK
@OrangeRiver
26 күн бұрын
Enterprise season 4 was really good :D
By off, I believe you meant he Packled are offensive. They play into the stereotype of the predatory disabled person draining and manipulating people without contributing anything.
I'm only about 15 minutes and it's great so far. I hope the gamble on pushing the censorship threshold on KZread works out for you! I really need to rewatch the series from the start.
@beezelbuzzel
26 күн бұрын
Also, mentioning Sulu's transfer while Scotty is sitting right beside him in yellow was funnier than it had any right to be haha. Killer video man!
@OrangeRiver
26 күн бұрын
Thanks dude!
Gene Roddenberry may agree. Who knows?
@Sephiroth144
12 күн бұрын
"I think they did a pretty good job. A brilliant job? In making Star Trek work in a motion picture, possibly yes. In finding a way to stay true to Star Trek values, definitely not." Gene Roddenberry on The Wrath of Khan, 1982