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@beepboop204

6 ай бұрын

i watched tng and ds9 as a kid, then Spike TV decided to rerun them all during my stoner-university years. i have nothing but fond fuzzy memories of them 😉

@jacebales2951

6 ай бұрын

⁠@@beepboop204I remember the Spike TV TOS re-runs back in the day. It had that 'counter' that kept track of stuff like 'dramatic music stings' at the bottom of the screen. I was drunk off of cheap plastic bottle vodka in college myself watching that. 🤣

They just needed to let Jonathan Frakes direct them all and give him a J.J. Abrams budget. Although he didn’t save us from that horrific Data “floatation device” joke in Insurrection, so even the power of Frakes could not overcome the forces of mediocrity.

@beepboop204

6 ай бұрын

hello

@AcornElectron

6 ай бұрын

So funny still seeing a literal meme/internet/KZread legend just hanging out in the comments.

@T.GLongstaff

6 ай бұрын

@@AcornElectronI know, it’s quite pleasant

@gosgood1973

6 ай бұрын

Well put.

@ThommyofThenn

6 ай бұрын

Agreed on Frakes being one of the best ST film directors. I feel that the television series had some other excellent directors so I won't call him the GOAT of star trek directors but he did a very fine job

Riker's comment that Cochrane isn't a saint, but that he does have a vision, and now they're sitting in it, that was basically a summary or Gene Roddenberry.

Quark's monologue in "The Siege of AR-557" is probably Armin Shimerman's finest performance.

@Darxide23

6 ай бұрын

I can't agree more with this. It's one of the best speeches in all of Star Trek. Not just DS9 and not just Quark. But all of Trek.

@joseaguilar3323

6 ай бұрын

What I love about it is that we always saw Quark behind ten layers of irony as every word was said as part of a scheme, but this moment with Nog was the character speaking with pure sincerity and every word seemed to hurt throat.

@Majima_Nowhere

5 ай бұрын

That and his "root beer" allegory are some of my favorite scenes as well. Armin pretty much made the Ferengi my favorite race.

Turning Picard into an action hero was certainly a choice. At least he and Data had stuff to do, unlike everyone else.

@PauperJ

6 ай бұрын

Dr. Crusher made a guest appearance.

@BTScriviner

6 ай бұрын

Turning Picard into an action hero always felt like more of an ego stroke for Patrick Stewart than in service of the plot, especially Nemesis. And true to form, the TNG movies basically sideline the female characters.

@Lexivor

5 ай бұрын

@@BTScriviner I lost a lot of respect for Stewart after that.

@Jiub_SN

5 ай бұрын

@@Lexivorto be fair to Stewart they were movies of their time

@d.a.b8756

5 ай бұрын

Female characters on tng are useless a telepath and a doctor hardly going to carry a film

Another problem with the Baku is that, if they're relocated, the resulting technology could...also be given to them to let them enjoy the benefits of long life and health. They're not losing anything other than their *exclusive* access to immortality!

It is a FACT that Data pushing Crusher into the water was funny 😂

I don’t think Antonia is that much of a mystery. It doesn’t have to be that Kirk had already left Starfleet and made an active decision to abandon her to go back to his desk job. Kirk was on leave, possibly after his post-TMP stint in command of the Enterprise was over, met Antonia, had a typically-passionate love affair, and briefly considered quitting Starfleet. Ultimately he decides not to, and returns to duty after his leave period was up. Definitely would have been better if it was someone we knew - a Joan Collins cameo as Edith Keeler would have been the dream!

I was thinking a few months ago about the differences of how Khan and Picard reacted to being compared to Captain Ahab. Both characters knew the book well and knew how it ended. But Khan, upon identifying with Ahab, embraced it - surely arrogantly thinking "his was superior" and he'd be able to get his revenge and succeed where Ahab failed and went full power, damn you, right into the flames of perdition. Picard, on the other hand, after a bit of attempted rationalization, was humbled by the book's words, realizing he was on a path he didn't want to be on and changed course. I like this kind of revisiting of the reused concept...

My biggest problem with Nemesis is its screenplay. Its so contrived and improbable that it sinks evereything in the film under the water. The nonsensical buggy scene is just cherry on bottom.

First Contact is definitely my favorite TNG film

@cheapskateaquatics7103

4 ай бұрын

Same

I remember watching First Contact on the big screen and it was one of the best experiences of my teen years.

Generations had some decent scenes. It felt like a weird mish-mash of feature film scenes and scenes that feel like a TV show (as much or more than Insurrection). It’s also a downer with Kirk and Picard’s brother and nephew dying not to mention the destruction of the Enterprise-D. It also has an insanely convoluted plot. It’s the most frustrating movie of the original 10 films. First Contact is the only TNG film that feels like a proper polished and well-made film. It’s essentially golden and indeed better than Independence Day which came out the same year. Insurrection gets a bad rap. It has genuine human insight thanks to Michael Piller. People may grouse at the ethics of the story (but its questionable ethics is actually organic to TNG: the series), but the story is serviceable and it’s the TNG film that actually feels like TNG all the way through. (Though “Action Picard” gets old.) Nemesis is garbage. They can’t begin to touch the TOS movies, but I’ll take any damn day over the Kelvinverse movies are more like the Fast and the Furious with Pointy Ears.

@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx

6 ай бұрын

First Contact is a well-made thriller flawed by its central plot hole. When the Borg sphere ejects, why does Picard order his ship to follow it rather than destroy it? Obviously, because there would otherwise be no film.

@mem1701movies

6 ай бұрын

@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xxI don’t like the Cochrane stuff that goes against TOS or a Borg Queen

First Contact is by far my favorite TNG movie. While it has some minor issues, it overall works VERY well. The pacing is right. The mood is right. The story, while involving time travel, is easy to follow. There is character development. And we see the first contact which ends the film on a high note. We have claustrophobic combat. The have seduction and we have "assimilate this!" We also have all the tropes back, like "oh a new member in the bridge crew? You are a goner". But First Contact also works as standalone work of art without having prior Star Trek knowledge.

@fuzzywzhe

5 ай бұрын

But it didn't make any sense. They are in the Nexus, they can go anywhere, and to any time. So go back a month of so. It was so bad, that was the last Star Trek film I paid to see. Star Trek the Motion Picture, although VERY SLOW, I will admit, was at least thoughtful, and the musical score was great. It gave a sense of the enormity and mystery of the universe, and the story was about what is the purpose and meaning of life? I know that's not everybody's cup of tea, but I like slow boring thoughtful science fiction. Science fiction films today, they are just one action scene after another, loosely tied together by something that might seem like a plot but isn't. If it was put into book form - more likely a short story since it's all fluff, it wouldn't stand up.

@jameshagan2832

5 ай бұрын

​@@fuzzywzhethat was generations. First contact involved going back to first contact w/the vulcans too fight the Borg

@fuzzywzhe

5 ай бұрын

@@jameshagan2832 Oh, the film where if the Borg weren't stupid, they would have gone back in time 20 light years away undetected, and then invaded early at about 1800 AD. All the films were stupid.

Stellar cartography was mentioned quite a few times throughout TNG.

@halfsourlizard9319

6 ай бұрын

Wasn't Picard's ladyfriend that he played music with in stellar cartography!?

@russellharrell2747

6 ай бұрын

@@halfsourlizard9319yeah but the big star room was not shown in the show.

@kenobetrader955

6 ай бұрын

The big star room was cool!

@Clay3613

6 ай бұрын

@@russellharrell2747 Ships get upgrades.

I think I speak for all of us when I say: To hell with Stuart Baird.

A shame you didn't comment on Worf's purple space bazooka.

@IndustriousVermin

5 ай бұрын

Anybody wanna pizza roll?

First contact is one of my comfort movies.

I feel like a plot similar to Yesterday’s Enterprise or All Good Things would have been better over what they chose for Generations. An age old question who is better, Kirk or Picard, why not do that? I don’t mean in a adversarial manner but rather an anti nostalgia and differing in command style sort of way. Kirk is much more the Chaotic Good while Picard is Lawful Good. Have the Enterprise B (Kirk and whoever else is onboard at the time) crew travel the to Enterprise D era through a time anomaly. Picard greets the Enterprise B crew and is revelatory to Kirk, but then a crisis occurs and the two Enterprises have to deal with it. The crisis leads to strife between the two iconic captains, which is where the real conflict of the film happens. Perhaps Kirk violates the Prime Directive, Kirk disregard Picard’s protest, which leads to a skirmish between the Enterprise B and Enterprise D. The two captains then have to make amends when a larger threat arises (perhaps a Romulan ambush). The Enterprise D is heavily damaged like in Generations and the Enterprise B sacrifices itself to save the crew of the Enterprise D. The plot is straight forward, but the point of the film is to show the difference between the two captains and to warn against meeting your idols. The biggest issue with First Contact is Patrick Stewart is playing Die Hard Picard; he needed to be more regal. Also, Data isn’t a Terminator, but that’s nitpicking. I don’t have the energy to complain about Insurrection and Nemesis…

I'm not saying I could live the life of the Amish, but I understand them. For example, I can't stand the direction that automobile tech is going. My next car, my last and forever car, probably, will be old, and understandable, and fixable. I can extend that thinking to all forms of technology.

@OrangeRiver

6 ай бұрын

Oh believe me, there's certainly something to be said about all the bloated "features" that have been added to perfectly functional devices over the past several years. But like...computers and the Internet are the reason I have a job, and I think people who blame "technology" for society's problems are looking in the wrong direction...

I know they as a group get a bad rap, but I like all of them. First Contact is my favourite

@harcomou8395

6 ай бұрын

Rap!? Rep?

@palmercolson7037

6 ай бұрын

​@@harcomou8395 A good question. To me, it has always existed primarily in movie dialog: rap sheet and beat the rap. A google search lead to info that it is very old and came to mean talk (rap music) and punishment (a rap on the knuckles and rap sheet). Thanks.

@chrissonofpear1384

6 ай бұрын

And much as I do love First Contact, I have too, always had a soft spot, for Generations...

"Generations" is my fave of the TNG films, despite all of its flaws. The opening theme is quite moving, and the TOS part of the movie was executed well. Scotty's words to Kirk, after being introduced to Sulu's daughter, about making time for the things you want in life - that's just one of the movie's quotes that have haunted me ever since, and it connects fairly well with Kirk in the Nexus, experiencing a shadow of an ongoing life with Antonia that never was, because he ultimately made time in his life for Starfleet, not for her. This all dovetails nicely with Picard's trauma - losing his brother Robert and nephew Rene, who was like the son he never had - and the Nexus showing him a Christmas-y life with a wife and several kids (including one like Rene) that he deep-down wishes he might have had. Moreover, it's really the kind of traditional, old-fashioned life his parents had wished for him, which he'd resisted his whole life, so it's really about his guilt at having rejected his family's ways - the ways that his brother Robert were so tied to - and with having lost Robert and Rene, also lost the last vestige of his family's traditions and values. And so, perhaps because this fantasy life is very guilt- and trauma-induced, no sooner has he finished hugging fake-Rene that he's able to notice the star explosion in the tree ornament quite quickly and then the illusion breaks down, sending him to Guinan's reflection. The film's villain opens up sort of a plot hole, though - why is only Dr. Tolian Soran so obsessed with returning to the Nexus? There were a number of El-Aurians on the Lakul - might not he have enlisted a few other traumatized El-Aurians to his cause? [Maybe the film didn't have the budget for Soran having a team with him AND having Lursa and B'Etor in the mix, lol]. I also wished that Guinan was less just an advisor in this movie, and openly battling Soran herself. But with Kirk in the mix and a lot of focus being given to Picard and Data, that might have been "too many cooks in the kitchen", so to speak. 🤷‍♀ I did like Data's development throughout the film, although maybe they went overboard with the jokes and cutesy bits - although his exclamation of "OH SHIT" and the song "You Tiny Little Lifeforms" are probably two of the best bits in the movie. A lot of people complain about Kirk's death and the death of the Enterprise D - but I thought his death was quite moving and realistic in a way, and the Enterprise D's crash was one of the most riveting scenes in the film, plus I think that ship, which was not at all militaristic and very made for television, had to go. The production staff were probably sick of that big old model, lol - but in seriousness, the successor ship, the Enterprise E, felt much sleeker and darker, so ergo more appropriate for a darker film like First Contact. I don't think even a refit Enterprise D would have worked as well for First Contact, and might have come off too much like what was seen in "Yesterday's Enterprise", which was the best the TV show could do to make the cruise-ship-like D look like a combat vessel. Oh, and First Contact is my second fave TNG film - it was dark, but in a good way, and while it gave Picard and Data a lot of focus, by no means were the rest of the cast ignored - the B plot with Riker, Deanna, Geordi, and Barclay on Earth with Cochrane was a relaxing and amusing counterbalance to the horror and suspense with the Borg on the ship. The Borg Queen was needed, and pulled off very well. I don't think the indirect and impersonal antagonist of "The Entire Borg Collective" would have worked as well. [Hell, the TNG writers realized this for the TV show too, hence why Picard was captured to become Locutus in the first place, and why subsequent stories focused on individual drones, like Hugh]. I thought Insurrection was okay, but not great by any stretch. Nemesis makes me depressed every time I've tried to watch it - it's just too dark and poorly written.

I loved Generations, and the novelisation went into Kirk's Nexus a lot better (but then it doesn't have the same budget restrictions, and the special effects are always better). The one thing that has always annoyed me though is that Soran had no need to be the antagonist, and that I think is the biggest problem with the movie. Soran had been on a ship and got into the Nexus, but was then pulled out of it by the transporter beams. All he had to do was beg, borrow or steal a shuttle craft, fly it into the Nexus, not caring if the shuttle blows up, because he'll be back in the Nexus with nobody there to beam him out. There was no need for him to blow up several planets to bring it to him, he'd got in the first time, it was just those pesty Starfleet kids who messed it up for him. He wouldn't have been blown up in the shuttle any more than he'd have died on the planet. As for Nemesis, meh, not great, but there's a fan theory that the motivation for the Romulans to clone Picard so long ago is sparked by the stories about him from Alt Tasha Yar from Yesterday's Enterprise. I doubt they thought of that when they wrote the movie, but us fans have our ways of fixing these things lol.

Tendie is my favorite part of the video.

Honestly I feel that the Borg Queen isn't outright bad. I just feel that they made her too important to the borg. "= I would have loved to have for her to be say an emergency creation to control the now weakened borg after losing their cube and going back in time. Would have been cool to see her lament having to leave the joyous chorus of the many and suffer the loneliness of individuality.

@BTScriviner

6 ай бұрын

Wouldn't she still be one with the collective? It would just be that she's overseeing and controlling the drones.

@Nimariel

6 ай бұрын

I would have loved her to be a direct result of what they did in IBorg, like they fundamentally changed the Borg but not necessarily for the better.

@Nostripe361

6 ай бұрын

@@BTScriviner Sorry for the late reply, been busy lately. Yeah she would still be part of the collective but i was imagining that if she was still borg that she would have the some dislike for the concept of individuality. I didn't explain it well. Her ultimate goal would be to fix the problem of the group of borgs she is in are having so that she could once again remove any individuality and become just another drone. I guess what I meant was if say, someone loved to play the violin and spent all of their time playing it in an orchestra, But then one day they told that they can't play the violin anymore since they have to be the conductor instead of doing what they love to do.

I don't remember them being very good, in the first place. In fact, I remember being sorely disappointed for virtually every movie. Generations was the best looking of the movies, and it captured the essence of TNG. It could have been a lot better if they utilized Kirk better, or simply didn't attempt to squeeze in Kirk at all. That said, the fan boy in me does still get a kick out of seeing Picard and Kirk together, even if they are only making breakfast. Shatner made the best out of what he was given, and he portrayed his death wonderfully. So, I definitely have mixed feelings with Generations. First Contact was cool the first time I saw it, but then all the flaws came out in the second and subsequent viewings. It's not terrible, per se, but it's not that great. The other two movies were either entirely forgettable and/or terrible.

@russellharrell2747

6 ай бұрын

First contact was the only one I enjoyed first time in the theater. Generations felt off, and when I noticed the Bird of Prey blowing up in the EXACT same special effects from ST6 I felt cheated…it felt like a sub par two part episode made into a B movie.

@Clay3613

6 ай бұрын

Being jaded in the 90s was so cool wasn't it... /s

@russellharrell2747

6 ай бұрын

@@Clay3613 it wasn’t cool, it’s just how things were. Cold War paranoia and 80s commercialism helped create the stereotypical disaffected Gen Xers, including myself. I’m surprised there’s people in this world that are not jaded these days

@valecrassus7835

5 ай бұрын

@@russellharrell2747 To be fair, the duplicate/reused special effects were stated to supposedly be a thing they were doing every movie in one form or another (Regula One was a flipped-over model from The Motion Picture, for example) but the Bird of Prey explosion retread was just way too on-the-nose. Either that or they cheaped out. Or maybe both.

@coloradoing9172

5 ай бұрын

@@valecrassus7835 It's more likely they had no money for a BoP explosion shot. They already had to move mountains just to get the shots they did get, and ILM did wonders to make such good effects on such a low effects budget. The studio also just loved reusing stuff on Star Trek. That city shot from early TNG which was reused over and over again with some color grading until the end of Voyager and DS9 is a great example of this.

Funny how Beverly eventually superseded Picard’s doubts about being a father years later and became a plot point in Picard S3. And that’s not the only plot thread from Generations to Picard S3 with the recovery of the Saucer Section from Viridian 3 to the museum. Matalas is such a nerd.

Another thing in Nemesis that annoyed me was that they forgot what psilosynine was and suddenly Betazoid telepathy used serotonin instead. No idea who was responsible for this, but I choose to blame Stuart Baird anyway.

@LordTalax

5 ай бұрын

No one cared

That mind assault scene from Nemesis is probably a misguided attempt the homage Dracula, with Picard taking on the Van Helsing role, Troi taking on the Mina Harkness role, and Shinzon playing the Dracula role. I would almost call it clever if it weren't out of place. Maybe it would have worked if they had doubled down on it, have Shinzon imprison Riker early on, have Crusher get brainwashed by Shinzon in act 2, it would have at least given those character something to more to do. Heck, they could have had Worf kill Shinzon with a Bat'leth. That would have been awesome.

Insurrection is my favourite ST movie. It is by far not the best ST movie, but it's my favourite.

@volkerthefiddler

6 ай бұрын

Insurrection is the best Star Trek movie, because it's the only one that's like an episode of Star Trek.

@Clay3613

6 ай бұрын

@@volkerthefiddler Just watch Who Watches The Watchers then and not the moronic kid friendly spew.

"And Orange wept, for there were no more Rivers to ford" - OrangeRiver 2050 Retrospective

@SportyMabamba

4 ай бұрын

- Hans Grüber

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one." -Spock, Wrath of Khan "The needs of these space hippies outweigh the lives of the entire quadrant." -Star Trek: Insurrection

It’s a crime that we never got any movies or TV series with Sulu as captain

So are we just gonna not talk about the plot whole of Scotty being on the Enterprise B when he should have been stuck in a transporter buffer.

@beezelbuzzel

6 ай бұрын

I think that happened later. The problem was, he thought Kirk saved him when Kirk would have been "dead".

@mem1701movies

6 ай бұрын

@@beezelbuzzelthe sad part they were both WRITTEN BY THE SAME PERSON

@travisboyle285

5 ай бұрын

I just assumed it was after Generations and that his brain was all f*cked up for being in a transporter buffer for 80 years.

Nimoy's script changes were that there was a race of very large "space Amazons" with extra-large "space bootys" and a musical number about Hobbits. I see nothing wrong with these being entries into the lore.

As a kid in the 90s I didn’t have any friends that liked Star Trek and we didn’t have the internet etc so I didn’t know what other people thought of the films. When I saw them I generally liked them - but my favorite was Insurrection and then Generations - I liked some of the scenes in First Contact, but it wasn’t my favorite - I did buy the soundtrack on CD though. But, after seeing other people’s opinions and reviews I now have a far lower opinion of them. Except Nemesis, I never liked that one.

tom hardy as picard was a tragedy

@the-scamp

6 ай бұрын

That's your opinion

@wizzelhoart

6 ай бұрын

@@the-scamp it's a fact. the Prosthetic Pinocchio nose, the bald head. It was a stupid costume

My main problem with First Contact is that it basically reset Picard's characterization with regards to the Borg. He spent all the Borg-centric episodes of the later seasons of TNG coming to terms with the events of All Good Things, but by the time for the film, it's like none of that character growth ever happened.

@enginerdy

5 ай бұрын

That a real thing. You make progress and sometimes you relapse. Or realize your progress wasn’t as deep as you thought..

YOO! thanks for showing off your hot wheels models. I have the Enterprise-A and Reliant like you do and man did I get a lot of good storytelling outtof both of them as a kid. Man...good times.

I still think that Kirk dying on a literal BRIDGE was somekind of internal joke from the writes.

To be fair, Star Trek First Contact is my favourite movie from the whole TNG. I rewatch it quite often. The story is simple, but it includes Borg and interesting relations between some of characters (Data, Borg Queen, captain Picard and etc). BTW I like your studio. 😊

First contract is better than any other Star Trek movie

First contact was good. Generations was okay. the other ones were eh.

Insurrection always has me like, oh no 600 people, guess we'll live on the other side of the PLANET, could have happily lived on the otherside and likely would have never even seen each other...

BEFORE watching the video, here's my take on the 3 and a half TNG films. Let's see how it holds up against Tyler's reviews. Generations: Deeply flawed, but not as terrible as some would have you believe. It was an alright movie with some great ups, but the downs are just as bad. Overall, I don't hate it, I don't love it, but I lean ever so _slightly_ more towards the positive side. 6/10 First Contact: I have rewatched this one countless times. The last time was fairly recently. Still holds up and it's still as great as it was the day I saw it in theaters. 9.5/10 Insurrection: It's.... certainly a movie that exists. That's probably the highest compliment I can pay it. Everything from the plot, to the writing, to the character development, none of it was worthy of a feature length film. It could have easily been an episode of an 8th season of TNG and it would have been just as alright as the movie. It's a pretty typical Star Trek plot on the morality of forceful relocation to steal resources, etc. If the movie had actually bothered to be much more strongly married to the Dominion War rather than it being merely a throwaway mention then they could have had an all time great. Of course, the movie would have been _entirely_ different. But in the days of TNG/DS9/Voy the various show runners had a huge aversion to overlapping and "cross contaminating" each other and that's a shame. TNG and DS9 could have overlapped in ways that would have strengthened both franchises. Nemesis: Yea, it's about as bad as they all say. I find very little redeeming about this one.

@Darxide23

6 ай бұрын

AFTER watching, I feel quite a bit vindicated in my opinions. I'm most stoked that I finally found someone else who pins Insurrection as an overly long, over budget episode rather than a feature film. I'm also especially happy to hear his take on firing Rick Berman. All the people who defend him with their "But DS9!" can suсk it. Steven Ira Behr is almost single-handedly responsible for that show and fought tooth and nail for some of the things he wanted in it. It was Berman who lead to Terry Farrel being let go because he wouldn't budge on letting her have a lighter presence in the final season. Berman is one of the worst things to happen to Star Trek. Anyhow. It's terrible that so much of nuTrek is just bad fan-fiction that doesn't deserve to exist and is in absolutely no way canonical in my head. After Nemesis/Voyager the only canonical Trek as far as I'm concerned is Picard and Strange New Worlds. The parody cartoons can burn and Disco can be forgotten about like it seems it will be. Dumpster fires.

@OrangeRiver

6 ай бұрын

Now hold on a minute, that second to last sentence is an insult on my wife's entire House! Glad you enjoyed the video lol

I can't help but enjoy First Contact even though it's absolutely silly at times. The others I can't find ways to enjoy, especially Generations.

I've always loved the First Contact uniforms similar to the TOS movie uniforn from Wrath o Khan to Undiscovered Country, as both uniform have a high visual uniformity (pun intended) more in line with real life uniforms giving the department colors only small accent parts.

This is my order of all Star Trek movies from Best to worst. Star Trek VIII: First Contact Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Star Trek VII: Generations Star Trek: The Motion Picture Star Trek III: The Search for Spock Star Trek IX: Insurrection Star Trek X: Nemesis Star Trek V: The Final Frontier Star Trek 2009 Star Trek Into Darkness Star Trek Beyond

The even/odd rule applies perfectly if you make one.... addition. Star Trek Insurrection. Galaxy Quest Star Trek Nemesis. There you go. Nemesis and Insurection are bot hodds. Galaxy Quest is the missing Even of the sequence.

Awesome vid. I loved the lore bits. Also of note, Penny Johnson, who played Kassidy Yates on DS9, was also on the TNG episode, Homeward,which mirrored Insurrection.

I really am enjoying the casual editing❤

@SnarkNSass

6 ай бұрын

Errrr format.

Awesome video! I'm digging the new set! And man...she's prominent 😂

@danoindigo2

6 ай бұрын

She was quite … featured. Wonder if she’s been to any good malls lately?

@OrangeRiver

6 ай бұрын

@danoindigo2 LMAO

There's a deleted scene to the ending of Nemesis that would have made the film end on a better note IMO. As Riker leaves the Enterprise for the Titan, he meets the new first officer Commander Martin Madden, played by Steven Culp who later played MACO commander Major Hayes in Season 3 of Enterprise. Madden, intent on making a good first impression with Picard, requested advice from Riker regarding the captain's attitudes. Sensing the opportunity to play a joke on the new guy, Riker misinformed his replacement by telling him that Picard was very laid back and prefers to be called "Jean-Luc." Madden took Riker's advice to heart, and only after receiving a stare from Picard as a response did he realize that Riker was "pulling his leg." A new captain's chair is installed on the bridge, which finally comes with seatbelts and Picard is delightfully surprised at the upgrade, noting, "It's about time." He then informed Madden that they're preparing to go on their first assignment, exploring the Denab system. Picard thought it would be interesting, adding that it was a place "where no one has gone before". We then get the TNG theme song playing as the Enterprise heads off to its next adventure. It would've been the perfect sendoff, similar to Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country when Kirk says, "Second Star to the right and straight on 'til morning." followed by his final captain's log.

Geez quark sounds just like the joker when talking about hu-mons

Sometimes I fantasize on how to improve the script for bad movies. For Nemesis, I would dropped any connection between Picard and Shinzon. Shinzon could be a half Romulan, half Human hybrid trying to save the Romulan Empire and prove himself to be the best Romulan of them all. Dropping the pointless Data close would be warrented. That would have helped. Almost anything would have helped.

Picard/Patrick stewart's having the time of his life in that dune buggy. Fed up with being stuck on the ship for every away mission until now......

First Contact is the best of the four TNG films - and IMHO as good as The Wrath of Khan. FC is an outstanding film in its right.

Shinzon's seemingly only linking features with picard is being bald and liking tea.

I love The Search for Spock!

KIrk's death in Generations is actually one of my favorite aspects of it, because no matter how heroic you are, you can't choose how you go out. You can only choose how you live each day. The greatest hero ever may have the most ignominious death, but it doesn't diminish the life. It's a surrender of narrative control back to the whims of nature that I appreciate.

I just got the 4k box set and loved them more than I really ever have it's been about 10 years since I watched them all and I really liked them.

Total agreement of the simplistic characterisation of the Odd / Even Star Trek Movies. Although far from the best movie, I've always has a soft spot for D'Vana Tendi... errrr, I mean Star Trek V. I'm also in total agreement about Kirk's death. I get where people who hate the scene come from but the Blaze of Glory thing would really have felt cliche. Generations had a different feel to the other movies so it felt like it's own thing rather than just doing a TMP era with the TNG cast. Though it had it's flaws, there were also a lot of strong moments in First Contact. Insurrection was a weaker movie, but very visually distinct from the darkness of the First Contact. If it was too similar in tone in terms of action, then it would still feel like a rehash of First Contact and hurt both movie's originality. Nemesis... in the same Way Phantom Menace would have been better without the distraction of JarJar. It definitely could have been greatly improved by ignoring the B4 plot and doing something more relevant. I sometimes get in the mood to watch the movies and I do a total run-through and don't skip titles.

Although I've left a comprehensive comment regarding these movies I wanted to say something else. I commented in your Dune overview that, although there are things about the Dune franchise I don't think work, there are also a lot of good elements that I feel are worth exploring.

That intro bro! 😂😂😂😂

Tendi is cute❤😂 And that statue of her is Bangin'!💜💜🖖🏻

@halfsourlizard9319

6 ай бұрын

If by 'cute' u mean 'hot af' ...

@SnarkNSass

6 ай бұрын

@@halfsourlizard9319 absolutely 🔥 😍 🖖🏻

Data's Final Flight was pretty badass though, let's not lie.

"just as savage as they've always been"....so Q has a point....and Picard doesn't see it...or is in denial.

Impressed you managed to block out RLM's review(s). Engineering guy questioning the plot of First Contact, Stoklasa lamenting the JCPenney catalog of "Browns & Beige" in Insurrection, questioning Shinzon's motives. Nemesis, with its nature vs nurture, COULD have been so much better. I'm on the short list of people who was disappointed when I saw First Contact in theaters. The plot falls apart if you take two seconds to think about it. Nevermind "why didn't the Borg time travel farther away or "why didn't they go a month before first contact". Since the Enterprise followed them back, there's logic to trying to transfer their flag there. But you know what also makes sense? Sending a dozen drones down to earth, scattered across the globe. That would have been one hell of an infection to be stopped.

My favorite fan theory is that odd = bad, even = good trek movies holds up when you include galaxy quest chronologically!

Where did you get the Tendi figurine at 15:43?

@OrangeRiver

6 ай бұрын

A super-fan of the channel made it for me as a gift 😎

Hey Tyler, where did you get that cool screensaver I see running on your computer screens in the background?

@OrangeRiver

6 ай бұрын

Haha, not quite a screensaver but a 4k video background! kzread.info/dash/bejne/oIeiwaWdftuwdto.html

Not a single word about something as straightforward as the commercial aspect of the TNG movies, as I understand it, the box office failure of Nemesis was due to individuals at Paramount who ignored that (indeed) Star Trek: Nemesis was neither a match in budget nor in revenue trend to compete with 007 Die Another Day, and the new movies of Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings in December 2002. In fact, that's why Paramount Pictures is so hesitant to make more J.J. Abrams Star Trek movies. It's not just about the nonsense of script issues, but they have to spend a ton of money like in Top Gun: Maverick, only to earn four times less than that on theaters.

First Contact is my fav.

I've seen all TNG movies and I didn't mind watching them and it didn't matter if they stunk.

Great video! I hope to see TOS and Kelvin movies covered eventually too!

I often like to Imagine that you could easily Switch out Shinzon for Sela and nothing else in Star Trek Nemesis, literally not only nothing would change but it would be slightly improved story and I guess continuity wise. As at least Sela is a returning character, and on top of all of that Mind As well also have Denise Crosby one of the Original cast members of TNG have a final appearance. Until they decided to oddly kill her character off, and besides I don't remember anything happening to Sela that would prevent her from coming back and getting her revenge or whatever.

Oh, oh no ive always loved the concept of revenge.

I remember watching Nemesis in theaters and being so disappointed. Tom Hardy as a clone of Picard was way too much of a stretch and pulled me out of the immersion before even seeing it.

@FablestoneSeries

6 ай бұрын

before the movie came out i knew only that it was about Romulans and that it was named Nemesis, so i naturally assumed the big bad villain was going to be Tasha Yar's daughter Sela. It would have been SO much better had this been true.

@Clay3613

6 ай бұрын

Same, it was the first ST movie I saw in theaters. Halloween Resurrection of the franchise, just killed any possibility of a sequel with horrendous writing and needless deaths.

I mean... holds up implies these are all beloved. For me I do love First Contact and I have a guilty pleasure with Insurrection... that's about it for the TNG films

Its easy to be a saint in paradise...Quark puts it fantastically well .

So when Picard returned to the ribbon, does that mean that everything that has transpired, from the death of Kirk, to the Dominion War, to Shinzon's coup, to Nero taking Spock into the Kelvin timeline, to the events of Picard, have all happened _within_ the ribbon? If I'm correct, the 'reset' occurred when Picard returned to the ribbon to stop Soran's destruction of the Viridian star system. Which would make sense given the Nexus is a powerful temporal energy field, if not the most powerful temporal phenomena ever encountered. By the Prophets if I'm right... I would say Generations is my fav, First Contact my 2nd, and Nemesis 3rd. Insurrection was a bit of a slog. Love the channel!

As soon as I heard raid shadow legends, I paused in my game and started moving my mouse to skip when you said "not a sponsor" and I realized, the videos 42 minutes in. Damn that is some strong conditioning.

Well I'm glad you watched the TNG movies to help me decide if I was going to watch them. I haven't seen the last two and now I'm still dreading watching them. However I did recently rewatched all the TOS movies and really loved them. That was a relief because I was worried they wouldn't be as good as I remembered. Also I like your new studio.

My favorite TNG movie is, "Poker: House of Mogh's Revenge."

Awaiting the day he says "that's all for this week" and the video continues for an uninterrupted minute before ending, only for him to start next week's video with "live long and prosper"

I don't know, I found Picard's longing for a family to be quite jarring. He never expressed an interest in having a family in the TNG series. He was already living his dream as a starship captain so I think they shoehorned this family thing in to make the nexus appealing to him. Also, I didn't like how Kirk died... until William Shatner said that he found the death poetic as the bridge was finally on the captain rather than the other way around, and now I love it. "Captain on the bridge!" > "Bridge on the Captain!"

I gotta address this borg queen complaint elephant in the room. The existance of the queen doesn't imply that the borg are not a collectivist species with concensus ruling the day. The borg queen doesn't seem to be much more than an avatar to represent the collective and perhaps, when a concensus cannot be found, the queen gives some final vote. That's how i've always seen it.

14:20 I completely agree with you on this. Having Kirk die in such a way is kind of perfect for his swashbuckling yet thoughtful character. I think Kirk would have seen it as a fitting end for him. It is a bit of an 'anti-climax' but I agree that *an Eddington "blaze of glory," death would have been generic and almost certainly greatly mocked today. It's aged well 3:25 my god that is one of the WORST ideas i've ever heard. I didnt have worst capitalised at first but I thought about it and went back and made it all caps. This is to drive home the point that I loathe it

My immediate reaction is "Yes they were, don't be obsurd." But really First Contact is an excellent movie, Generations was just ok, I liked Insurrection a lot, and I think Nemesis also gets a slightly bad reputation. I'd give the set an 8/10. 7/10 + 9/10 + 8/10 + 8/10 something like that.

4:38 Deforest Kelly wanted to be in Generations, but he couldn't get insurance due to his declining health.

Just to stick my neck out for Nemesis: Young Picard is bald because Stewart in real life actually went bald in his teens.

In Generations, when Picard entered the nexus, he should have went back in time to save is brother and nephew. Then have Soren arrested.

This episode flew by. Agree with you. watching them now with jaded eyes from current trek, they aren't very good. But they kept us entertained in that time.

Imho nemesis holds up the best. I know its weird but that one feels like an actual movie.

@OrangeRiver

5 ай бұрын

Star Trek: Nemesis certainly is a film

@balung

5 ай бұрын

You mean a Movie feel as opposed to just another TNG episode feel.

@pocok5000

5 ай бұрын

@@balung Sg like that. It has a strong concept and follows it through with a very consistent tone. I know it is not a very good movie but somehow it's the one that stayed in my thought for the longest.

WE AIN'T FOUND SHIT!

First Contact is the goat "Jean-Luc, blow up the damn ship!" "NO! NOOOOOOO!"

I liked The Wrath Of Kahn but is it the best? I dunno I mean I know people do not like The Final Frontier but I thought it was good. Undiscovered Country is my fav of the TOS movies. First Contact being my fav of TNG movies. However as I have said before I enjoy all the movies with The Search For Spock being my least fav.

I disagree with the criticism of Generations' Act 3: Kirk was never told at all what the Nexus was. Picard had Guinan to explain it all for him, and even her memory and shadow to help him understand. Kirk, randomly exposed to the nature of it, was presented with chaos and without Picard, probably likely went mad.

The best review I've seen concerning TNG thus far🤔 Except for data, who's supposed to be mechanical, the acting is lackluster at best: Vulcans emote more emotion🖖 However Beverly does show HER emotions. And Troy regularly gives her signature odd look of "something is happening"🙄 The Enterprise-D's ship design looks like a deformed turtle flipped over and got stuck on its back🐢 Picard's final season is the BEST of TNG👍

LMAO I started laughing IMMEDIATELY when i heard those opening guitar chords