So all these people died because a big man baby didn't get his way. Incredible. Andrea is an remarkable lady. Amazing, amazing video!!! Keep 'em coming!!!

@chickenlover657

9 ай бұрын

Oh sure she is, knows what he did and gives over the child. Are you mad?

@GalacticGaming14

9 ай бұрын

@chickenlover657 so you would let more people die so you could keep your child?

@hughjaanus6680

9 ай бұрын

One space between sentences, please.

@Seashoremeg

9 ай бұрын

I agree with you! He never would have hurt the child but he would have continued to murder people over her. The mother sacrificed her happiness and love with her child for the safety of others and that does make her remarkable!

@chickenlover657

9 ай бұрын

@@Seashoremeg You're out of your mind. No normal woman gives up her child no matter what, especially not to a serial murderer.

One thing that everyone is wrong about- it was never about love or obsession or even seeing his daughter as his possession. It was never about his daughter at all. This man wanted to keep his daughter simply to punish his wife/ex wife for daring to stand up to him, tell him she wasn't going to take his abuse anymore and leaving him. He didn't care about having his daughter, he just knew she wanted their daughter and so would do anything to keep her from having the daughter and would cause destruction- knowing she'd feel guilty- when she did have their daughter. If he wanted to keep the girl due to obsession or twisted love or whatever, he would have taken her and moved away, maybe even to another country, trying to hide away. But he didn't. He rubbed it in her face because the point was always to punish her for daring to leave. That's why he let his daughter go without a fight later on- he had a new wife, someone new to posess and control, and hed already done what he set out to do- made hisex give up custody by giving her thechoice between having her daughter and public safety. Even though she wasn't responsible for any of those killings, he knew she'd feel that way and eventually give in to him, meaning he'd "win". It was all her ever wanted- for her to admit he still controlled her.

@MsFitMayhem

9 ай бұрын

💯Exactly!

@breezygrl10

9 ай бұрын

You eloquently put what I was thinking 👏

@Faramallera

9 ай бұрын

THIS!! What a brilliant analysis!!

@muggy6283

9 ай бұрын

You hit the nail on the head ~ very well stated! 💯

@sueladybird6923

9 ай бұрын

Agree 100%... unfortunately from personal experience.... Its sad and emotionally destroying when you are forced(primarily by the courts) to choose between your childs life and their fathers "madness"....after multiple late returns from court ordered access visits...he just disappeared with child... the AFP then got involved....at it's worst l was told by ex that l only had one choice to make.. "Did l want our child to live or die", if he didn't get at least shared custody🥺 ...after all these years l still don't know if l made the right decision but we all lived to tell the tale. The family courts need a massive overhaul still, thirty years later🤔

I don't understand how this man was allowed to threaten, scare and murder people for so long. If they had followed him and kept tabs on him 24/7 like they should have they would have caught him doing things, threatening people and planting bombs. It's ridiculous what he was able to get away with. I don't get it...

@marirothbauer5407

9 ай бұрын

They shoud have stalked him and first opportunity shot him dead. Who would care. Justice Servied..Such evil.

@laleona776

9 ай бұрын

I AGREE!! The wife had been telling them this for YEARS! If they were intelligent they'd connect all these crimes to this family situation. All they had to do was wait till a judge took away his right to see his child for a period of time & perform surveillance 24/7! Duh... But then again Australia is KNOWN for having lackadaisical laws as well as police that aren't the brightest & best. They just follow master's orders, no critical thinking allowed!

@kristenwolfe5272

8 ай бұрын

I think he was a monster and someone on the inside covered for him. I find it hard to believe there was that much incompetence.

@anadubar4819

8 ай бұрын

@@kristenwolfe5272 I agree. I cannot believe that incompetence on such a level is possible. And after the book was published, ALL OF A SUDDEN they were able to find enough evidence and lock him up. Which is proof that they could, if they wanted to.

@megadesty

8 ай бұрын

@@kristenwolfe5272 Being a firefighter with connections helped him for sure

The obvious motive, the fireman's thread... This video showed how weak the Australian police force was at the time more than anything, because the signs were all there. It's so unfortunate and unfair that he was allowed to reign terror over the people of Australia for so long.

@RecklessInternetting

9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately not much has changed. The various Australian police forces veer between over-powered, grossly ineffectual, and horribly corrupt.

@rfross771

9 ай бұрын

The corruption is the real problem.

@markcarpenter6020

9 ай бұрын

It showed how weak the people were. My grandmother would have killed him. Literally. (And probably have dared a court to convict her) Hell over here a cop would have probably killed him as soon as he started threatening the police.

@markcarpenter6020

9 ай бұрын

​@@RecklessInternettingthat sounds like police forces everywhere

@ZombieSazza

9 ай бұрын

@@RecklessInternettingI mean look at FriendlyJordies and how he’s been treated by Australian police, where they terrorised his editor etc, Australian police are an actual joke I swear

Absolutely shocking that they didn't catch this guy so much earlier.

@nemofish3504

9 ай бұрын

Crappy police work tbh

@wendyhannan2454

8 ай бұрын

It’s unbelievable, shocking police work. They didn’t protect Andrea and her family.

@vidhoard

8 ай бұрын

@@wendyhannan2454 yep

@gloriap3659

8 ай бұрын

The sad thing is not having someone believe you, until it's too late. Things can be prevented.

@gloriap3659

8 ай бұрын

@nemofish3504 I've seen numerous documentaries, and it's a sad world we live in. Many things could be prevented if they listen.

It's pretty darn obvious all the connections the bombings and murders had...they were all connected to Andrea and Trudy. He was not a serial killer, but a Narcissistic revenge killer. How those detectives never pieced that together is ridiculous.

@bullshitstomper9417

9 ай бұрын

I seen a vid and the detectives said we put two and two together and realised I was thinking. I’m surprised you even done that.

@bridgetmcgiggles4528

9 ай бұрын

It's not what you know is what's you can prove.

@Leo29568

8 ай бұрын

Like the way the Australian police say that the deaths of the in-laws of this lady, Erin, might be coincidental and that there could be ‘a totally innocent’ reason for it. They died after eating the pie Erin cooked, which contained the toxic mushrooms. Erin and her children were not affected. Her ex-husband nearly died last year after a mystery stomach illness put him in the ICU for 21 days. He was in a coma. Despite all that, the police can’t seem to be able to join the dots. They are investigating her and they have taken her children away as a precautionary measure. Good to know that.

@shadowvortex6653

8 ай бұрын

people are dumb. Anyone would have known that

@jydeinden

8 ай бұрын

@@shadowvortex6653 as its said.. its NOT what you think you know, its what can you prove.. That has NOTHING to do with being dumb.

What an absolute miscarriage of justice. The fact that Andrea had to put Trudi in the hands of a monster to attempt to stop the killings is both horrifying and revolting. At no point should that have ever been an option that had to cross her mind.

@MimeticEdgeGaming

7 ай бұрын

almost 150 likes and no replies?! let me fix that! reply added here

@crafterrium8724

7 ай бұрын

bro tf? this is the wrong comment for this bro @@MimeticEdgeGaming

@AbelSorin

7 ай бұрын

I don't agree. I know she could've just as well leave the country and just not watch news about him anymore, but since she didn't, who knows how many lives she saved with her selfless decision. I don't condemn her for not doing it sooner, and I wouldn't have condemned her if she never did it, but she had to be very brave and tough for that decision. However, I still think the police should've done better to stop him. I understand her, seeing how not even police could help.

@raditts

6 ай бұрын

@@AbelSorin it doesn't sound like they're condemning her, more like they're condemning the system for forcing her to have to choose between keeping her daughter and giving her to a monster to prevent more people from being hurt and killed, because they couldn't do their job properly.

@AbelSorin

6 ай бұрын

@@raditts reading it again, it does sound like you're right. Thanks!

He didn't love his daughter, he was only interested in having her as a possession and inflicting maximum pain on her mother and anyone who tried to stop him. Typical malignant narcissist.

@gloriap3659

8 ай бұрын

Wrong on many levels.

@julialee143

7 ай бұрын

Exactly what happened to me. My dad took my and my 5 siblings for 11 years and I just recently got out 6 months ago. Trying to get my brother out still… got to reconnect with my mom. She was alienated from her kids for over a decade.

@bebbychad7607

7 ай бұрын

@@julialee143 So sorry to hear this. I hope you all get reunited with your Mom soon. Kindest wishes and thoughts to you all.

@tylorsmith7580

7 ай бұрын

He did shut up stop being hateful towards men

@tylorsmith7580

7 ай бұрын

​@Godzgirl67 wrong. You're a liar and making up stories

Is anyone gonna talk about poor Steven! he was 25 YEARS OLD! He had SO MUCH to live for😭 RIP Steven🪦

@blazefairchild465

8 ай бұрын

RIP Steven I story makes me sick , how these domestic abusers ruin so many lives just because they are so mentally stunted and evil to the core with hate.

@shaksheedigitalmarketing

2 ай бұрын

Why didn't they arrest him as suspect even after so many killings. They could have prevented some .

@shaksheedigitalmarketing

2 ай бұрын

They could have deported Andrea and the child. Giving up a child's possession to a killer to stop further crimes is a heartbreaking and brave move.

@DeletedUserer

2 ай бұрын

The government is corrupt

@DeletedUserer

2 ай бұрын

They didn’t want to catch him they needed some people to be unalived

Poor Steven, he was only a small part of this case but you could tell how much of a kind soul he was. Rest in peace Steven

Unbelievable that a serial killer was able to live as a FREE man for more than 35 years! That's no justice for his poor victims. Andrea's brother was also killed at 25 and he wasn't arrested either, all I can say is that Andrea was extremely noble even giving her child back to him for full custody, how on earth did she cope with not knowing if he would harm Trudi just to spite her too? Horrific situation. I understand why people feel obliged to take the law into their own hands., perhaps innocents lives could have been saved from this monster.

@raditts

6 ай бұрын

He lived as a free man for longer after murdering her brother than her brother ever got to live. Just think about how infuriating that is.

Perfect example of how pathetic our justice and police system was, and still is! So embarrasing.

@bullshitstomper9417

9 ай бұрын

They gang stalk me They sell drugs with gangs Their sarg is a corrupt Freemason they all bootlick to get promoted

@ashthelegend3642

8 ай бұрын

Ikr?! It’s so f’ed up now! If I was apart of the law system, I would send the f’ing FPI to arrest that psychopath in a heartbeat.

@cadams1607

8 ай бұрын

Ban bmxxx video game but get away with murder. Our crime and punishment is as bad in NZ.

@JulieSevelson-nb9nj

8 ай бұрын

It sounds like all English speaking countries have the same identical issues going on, the police there can't go after this guy Leonard,but they have huge populations of homeless citizens that they ignore,and refuse to build affordable housing for them,even seniors and disabled people, working class renters. It's not random, it's not " market forces" either. It's part of a long term plan,that started in the early 1980's. Neoliberalism, actually. Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher lead this policy trend. Bad men like Leonard have free reign,while law abiding, average citizens really suffer !!

@cathbrown215

8 ай бұрын

From the experience of 30years of hell begging police and our justice system for protection for me and my family. It took a private prosecution to force the police and the Courts and also a Notice of Motion presented before the New South Wales Parliament before the Justice System in Australia were forced to hold our abusive perpetrator accountable!! We are now free to live in peace.

This whole case is frustrating but it's even worse to know that Australia first used DNA to solve a case in 1989, and it was commonplace in the '90s. The fact that they had that at their disposal and didn't think to test cold case evidence - especially such a major case! - until journalists wrote a book about it is disgusting. He still would have walked free far too long if they got him in the '90s, but only arresting him in 2015 is reprehensible.

@ManiyaVinas

9 ай бұрын

Bros over hoes to them

@shaylahill3607

9 ай бұрын

Makes no damn since smh ...

@Anne--Marie

8 ай бұрын

Actually it was Britain in the 1986 case of child rapist and killer Colin Pitchfork. You can read about it in detail in the Joseph Wambaugh book "The Blooding".

@crwlh6721

8 ай бұрын

This is what was unforgiveable in this case (and so many others). DNA profiling was common before that detective remembered the blood stain in 2012. How is it that he didn't remember it sooner? How is it that they ignored the blood stain for decades? Reprehensible.

@TrumanStalls18

8 ай бұрын

Exactly. All of this is well said.

" I had to do it, what choice did I have?". The answer is you kill the mother F'er. Honestly I'm shocked the cops didn't do that when he started threatening them. I'm no fan of vigilantes but this would have been self defense in my book.

@ThursdaysGirl

9 ай бұрын

Hurt me, I let the karma deal with you. Hurt my family, I'll become karma..

@markcarpenter6020

9 ай бұрын

@@ThursdaysGirl I was raised by my grandparents. My grandmother was born in the 1920s. She lived through a time when not much was done about domestic violence. So her solution to it was simple. Kill the bastard in his sleep. (She was an Irish red head that according to her father had "too much of the devil in her"). On the other side my grandfather was a backwoods country bootlegger from a family of bootleggers. I was taught from a young age the only person you can count on to solve your problems and protect you is you. Law enforcement is nice and all but not something you can bet your life on.

@LifeInPink999

9 ай бұрын

And then go to prison for it? If it's planned it's nor self-defense, they justice could care less if you tell them you are certain the man was planning your murder if it's not a defense against a direct attack in which the consequence is death of the attacker it's still murder. Not sure about USA but in Europe if let's say someone attacks you in your home and you fight back and cause a fatal wound you must justify why you inflicted a fatal wound and not one that just incapacitated the attacker. I remember years ago this case of the owner of a jewelry fatally shooting an itruder he was judged for murder because he shot the intruder from distance basically he shot him not knowing if said person was there to kill or to rob. It happened like a decade ago but I still remember thinking “ the intruder knew that the man was very rich, entered the house knowing that the owner could be was inside and had a weapon, his it is possible that now the owner is being judged because he decided to shot and not politely wait till the intruder took his weapon and pointed it at him”. The fact that the intruder had a weapon on him was the only thing that saved that man from prison. I also remember thinking “this case would have been so simple in USA” but here in the end the victims always have less rights than the attackers.

@markcarpenter6020

9 ай бұрын

@@LifeInPink999 in the US if someone breaks into your home you are usually justified in killing them.(we have a lot of self defense /stand your ground laws here) And it depends on the time period. Anytime before 1980 you had a good chance of getting away with killing someone as long as you were a little careful. And even until the 90s you had a halfway decent chance. (Unless you were a serial killer). At the time this took place you had a really good chance of getting away with it as long as no one saw you do it. And if no one ever found the body your chances went up drastically.

@thinkaboutit1133

8 ай бұрын

@@markcarpenter6020 if youre in abusive marriage, just poison the bastard.

Amazing how an innocent person can be arrested and serve jail time with coercion but an actual violent criminal can't be touched without physical evidence first.

@Kristie2ful

6 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly

Lack of evidence. Ok. But what about using the process of elimination? Narrow the suspects down and find a common thread. And then the murders stop when he gets his daughter? Ugh.

@itsapersonn

9 ай бұрын

I'm not a lawyer, and especially not an Aussie one, but I'm pretty sure elimination doesn't really count as evidence in court. It needs to be strong and supported by other evidence. I'm still baffled at how it took them 35 years to arrest the man.

@ItsJustChri5

8 ай бұрын

that's circumstantial evidence. not solid enough to convict someone.

@peasantrule3194

8 ай бұрын

@@ItsJustChri5 I'm talking about as a starting point. They would have been able to make connections.

@ItsJustChri5

8 ай бұрын

@@peasantrule3194 he was already a suspect. they'd had their starting point _way_ before that.

@anadubar4819

8 ай бұрын

... and as sooas the book came out, all of a sudden they were able to find evidence and arrest him. Because it had become too embarrassing for them, so they decided to get their asses moving.

This had nothing to do with him loving his daughter and wanting to have her. This was about his ego and feeling offended and wronged.

@graftme3168

8 ай бұрын

It was about control and revenge.

@rowlandwetmaker

8 ай бұрын

I don't agree, I think it was real fathers love, when she'd grew up she could decide on her own (and she did, she left him) but 'till then....don't f with fathers who dearly love their daughters

@lisaX7322

8 ай бұрын

@@rowlandwetmaker I hope to God you’re a troll because what he was doing had nothing to do with love. What he was doing had everything to do with being a controlling, manipulative psychotic murder.

@Darren-jt1mw

8 ай бұрын

​@@rowlandwetmakerYou're a monster if you think this is "real father's love". He had a history of violence towards the mother and killed numerous innocent people when it was unnecessary. Could you terrorise the mother of your child and then bomb the locations where they lived, threating to kill family that were close to them, creating constant fear for your child that you supposedly "love"? This isn't love. You don't kill innocent people out of love when there is simply no need. What would you suggest then? Have the wife comply with a psychotic abuser who beats her? No one "fucked" with him. His own actions of abuse caused this.

@nirawritesandsurvives

8 ай бұрын

​@@rowlandwetmaker you're wrong with that toxic opinion on so many levels.

I'm shocked somebody didn't take this man out a long time ago... He was a clear and present danger to anyone remotely close to his vindictive nature. He proved that too many times

@bullshitstomper9417

9 ай бұрын

The way things are going in society these days Oh man. I had to take the law into my own hands not long ago because cops send junkies and gang stalk me Cops with all the crime now look at all the crime

@jessickalush3305

8 ай бұрын

Was he a firefighter?

If the police can’t defend society, IT needs to take action. The police and justice system FAILED utterly in this case, they could have easily booked him just on the abuse, stalking and kidnapping charges. And they should have guarded the obvious targets from the start. The even more insane thing is that he got his way, and got the daughter. Incredible she had to give her daughter to a serial murderer! What was wrong with the justice system? However I do hope he will FINALLY get his punishment in jail. Still don’t understand why they didn’t go for the DNA evidence earlier. They could have probably send him to jail 15-20 years sooner.

@jaysmith179

9 ай бұрын

Same thing that is going on with Trump. Biden and Hunter get away with everything and they go after Trump for small crap

@JennieLuVr_

9 ай бұрын

I hope the society fix this, it's very messed up and your right, the police should actually do something instead of sitting around while people get hurt or abused.

@bullshitstomper9417

9 ай бұрын

He’s making these devices and they couldn’t find where he was getting it from ??? Works at the fire station. Hmm 🤔

@momwithaplan1287

9 ай бұрын

I just cannot fathom, and stop laughing at the absurd, incompetence of Australia’s policing. I can think of several ways, to take him out, permanently. And easily. 1) like the OP said, you arrest him on one if not all three charges, and he’s gone for 30 years. Then, DNA is around, and you slap him with murder. 2) Or, after his arrest, he’s in jail. He just happens, to have an bad “accident”. He doesn’t survive, and unfortunately, no witnesses. 3) on his way to work, 𝗕𝗢𝗢𝗠! he’s hit, and dies, the driver took off. Oops, no witnesses. 4) Uh, no. 𝗕𝗢𝗢𝗠! His house is on fire.Ahh, “Let the mother fker burn”. Burn, mother fker burn. 𝗛𝗮𝗛𝗮𝗛𝗮𝗛𝗮! I just happen to love #4 the best. So easy Peezy, and they wouldn’t have been, more people, murdered, and the city terrorized, by this evil serial killer. Because, this psychopath, couldn’t have custody of his daughter. Shame on the police dept. And Bravo to Andrea, for her to keep fighting this animal. And For her daughter, and the community.

@cyonu5675

9 ай бұрын

@@momwithaplan1287 you think they were incompetent then lmao now they are even worse and the government is just a pathetic joke

The thing is it was never about his daughter, it was always about punishing her mother. Violent control individuals don't care about people, they only care about their control. When his wife left him he lost control and that was unforgivable to him.

@stick9648

8 ай бұрын

If that was him flipping the bird he has crybaby punk written all over him .

@RoseDylan228

6 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@vonsanson3120

5 ай бұрын

Amen

Someone should have taken him out many many years ago.

@bullshitstomper9417

9 ай бұрын

The police could of just broke his spine said he was resisting with ten witness police no body cams back then Then if it went to court the prosecutor has a lunch break with the judge and says. Oh yeah. This guy a judge killer so help us get the cops off this one ☝️. Bada bing buda boom Job done Cheers 🍻

@airplanemaniacgaming7877

5 ай бұрын

The fact that Australia was a colony created from prisoners shoudlve given them the courage to channel their inner Edward Nelly and give him a good lead buffet.

@Kt-cn2rq

4 ай бұрын

​@@airplanemaniacgaming7877 that like telling americans they need to give back american indians their land. Nothing to do with us that is other people even their ancestors. Its not what it is now.

@anahir.l7602

27 күн бұрын

@@bullshitstomper9417LMAOOO

This case is a huge disgrace to the justice system, knowing who killed all these inoccent people all along but still letting him loose... Real shame.

This is easily one of the best true crime channels on KZread. Amongst a sea of similarity The Unseen manages to have a distinct personality. The scripts are consistently clear, concise and well researched. Historical photos, news clips and audio are well selected to support the narrative and connect us to the actual events. Great voiceover free from artifice or affect. And most importantly The Unseen centers on the victims and survivors. While the killers are fascinating because their behavior is so anomalous and abhorrent, they are monsters who do not deserve the spotlight. Thank you for such great content and for keeping the focus on the people who deserve our attention and compassion

@thelastsparkle

9 ай бұрын

Hard agree. They're very victim-focused, and respectfully choose not to rehash details of things like sexual assault details out of consideration for the victims. They stick to the facts and don't give a lot of commentary as if the case is an entertaining show like a lot of true crime channels do.

@JennyferPepin

9 ай бұрын

Strongly agree. It's very nice to see hope and justice.

@Friendofstfrank

8 ай бұрын

True Crime Rocket Science

This is a perfect sad example of "Technicalities holding back: Possibilities" there is no way Australia couldn't have found a way to deal with this guy on a Rampage? Can't believe he was able to do all that he did?

@frederikac.5153

8 ай бұрын

It's ridiculous how long this killer was allowed to continue his crimes. Despite warnings from his ex-wife, the house of this criminal was never searched? And what about after these judges were killed, the police had no clue?

@LibbySlaughter101

8 ай бұрын

It's called 'evidence'.

@aggressivelyamicable5987

8 ай бұрын

@@LibbySlaughter101 Nope, just awful police work. They claim to have put 24/7 surveillance on all of the judges and their families but couldn't maintain a 24/7 trail on the prime suspect? Hell, would've only cost a couple thousand to have him executed by one of the many Aussie gangs.

@BWOOHAHAHAAA

7 ай бұрын

@@LibbySlaughter101 DNA testing was available long before he was put behind bars.

@NBrown-kh8lp

7 ай бұрын

@@LibbySlaughter101they had “evidence”😂 at the very least they had enough evidence to put him under 24hr surveillance! Their idea of solving this case was him volunteering information to them!😂

Unbelievable that he caused so much death and destruction!

Parents are overprotective and possessive over their kids like that not because they love the child but because they see the child as an object, something to control or use to get back at others. At the same time these people try to keep their kid to themselves so the kid can love and adore only them, which is nothing more than an ego boost

@LifeInPink999

9 ай бұрын

This man didn't care about or love his daughter he just couldn't accept that he lost control over his ex.

@deborahstone9696

8 ай бұрын

😂you don't know what your talking about. .I very always been overprotective because of my mother's past history and mine too. .people are not tared with the same brush

@cowboy.space.

8 ай бұрын

@@deborahstone9696 Okay but are you protective (good) or overprotective (bad)? There’s a lot of research showing the deleterious effects on children when OVERparented, if you’d be interested in seeing those sources

@deborahstone9696

8 ай бұрын

@@cowboy.space. well my grand child and I were at a good will store last wk.I moved to next isle she was just behind me still walking and 3 related to each other people offered her a question about the color of grass.I confronted them. They said to .me. if she said green they were going to give them $2. Wtheck. Now you decide for yourself. Glad they came to me absolutely scared..Can't even imagine if it went differently!!

@WhitneySt0rmy

6 ай бұрын

They are children who also happen to have children. Children they're ruining.

So I am not a religious person, and don't generally agree with most organized religion, but I can say, the action this group took to help their own is what religion should be about. Love, care, help, compassion for your community and those in it who need it. I am glad they understood the assignment, and sad that so many lives were lost and people tormented because of one man's inability to accept he wasn't in control of his ex wife anymore. The brother Steven just trying to help his sister and niece, the judges and other officials just trying to do their jobs & their families, the Kingdom Hall members that were hurt and killed - my heart goes to all of them and their loved ones. I can't imagine having to make the scary decision to give up your only daughter to save others form dying, and being that daughter and knowing people died because of your father's actions - then for him to not give any cares when he starts a new family. Everyone in this situation needs healing, and I hope they got that or have been able to since then.

OMG that poor mother and the little girl this is terrible and should never have happened I feel for the mother and the little girl

@chickenlover657

9 ай бұрын

Poor mother? LOL! She gave up her child. Don't be ridiculous.

@Tanya49655

9 ай бұрын

She literally sacrificed her daughter to save strangers but okay

@chickenlover657

9 ай бұрын

@@Tanya49655 Yeah, do you think that's ok? I don't.

@ZombieSazza

9 ай бұрын

@@chickenlover657of course that doesn’t make it okay, but what other choice did she really have? He was terrorising people and she thought giving up her daughter would save lives, it’s a very selfless thing to do. It sucks, sure, and doesn’t make it okay, but you gotta understand why and stop acting like this is such a black and white case. She didn’t abandon her child for the sake of it.

@Not_willow-messdag

9 ай бұрын

@@ZombieSazzayeah she didn’t have a choice!

Just goes to show that monsters can blend in and fool everyone around them!!! My prayers go out to all the victims and their families and friends! R.I.P to those taken way to soon !!!

@catherinesyme901

9 ай бұрын

Amen 🙏

@jeneen591

9 ай бұрын

@@catherinesyme901 thank you

@Mikazuchireborn

8 ай бұрын

Who the hell was fooled? Everybody knew he was doing it the whole time and the justice system did nothing to stop him.

@raditts

6 ай бұрын

The thing is, that it doesn't appear that he blended in at all, to the point where everyone knew it was him. The police just failed to do its job.

Huge shoutout to the Jehova’s Witness community for helping the family escape this maniac. Knowing full well that this lunatic attacks everyone who gets in his way, they still stepped in to help. Now THAT is a community who follows what Jesus would do.

@RM-ti8nf

8 ай бұрын

Lol, yeah they look after their own, including the men who abuse the poor kids in their congregation

@Heartrok

8 ай бұрын

​@@RM-ti8nf?

@PaperMario64

8 ай бұрын

@@RM-ti8nf​ I was raised JW. They have never had a culture of protecting child abusers. We were always taught to call the cops. If that happened to you or in your congregation, that’s awful and it was wrong, but don’t try to paint the entire group this way because it’s not true.

@kimquinn7728

8 ай бұрын

​@@PaperMario64Absolutely true. We are never taught to cover over this type of wrong doing. Just like any other group of people of faith, we are made up of imperfect human beings. There are good and caring and brave people, within our faith and there are those who hide what they are. Those people are everywhere. Don't paint us all with the same brush. In 32 years I have never seen a cover up. What happened to these poor people, this little girl, mother, so many others, is horrific. So very sorry. Those of us faithful will willingly lay our lives down for one another. John 15:13, 14, 13, No one has love greater than this, that someone should surrender his life in behalf of his friends. 14, You are my friends if you do what I am *commanding* you.

@itsthatgirl98_

8 ай бұрын

@@RM-ti8nf We Jehovah's Witnesses do not allow this type of thing in the congregation, we are all brothers, even if they are people from different countries, we do not protect abusers, in fact we are against abusers and Jehovah will send these people to die, to have what they deserve. We teach the truth, what is wrong, unfortunately other religions do the opposite, they protect abusers and do not help victims.

I thought my family court expirience was vicious, this is beyond anything I dealt with.

My condolences goes out to the family

How the eff does he take his daughter away for 6 extra weeks when the mom doesn't even know where she is and all they do is add a couple of restrictions? What a toothless ineffectual court. smh

This one was hard to get through. I know this was back in the 80's, but you should be able to arrest someone who is constantly being brought up as suspicious.

I would never hand my child over to a mad man. I can’t believe the police were so incompetent.

@bullshitstomper9417

9 ай бұрын

I would of finished him if I was her She should of joined a more powerful cult n screwed him over

@Carlychillvibes

9 ай бұрын

I agree!

@camellia8625

7 ай бұрын

It was a beyond extreme situation and that move did stop further attacks and murders.

This story has 1 similarity to my life. He chose a woman over his daughter. My dad did exactly the same and has always put his psychotic wife over me, my brother and sister. As a result, I haven't spoken to him for 21 years. I can never understand why some people put their partner first over their children ! I could never or ever do that to my children !

This one was so obvious from the first murder. Unbelievable how crappy Aus police at that time.

@bullshitstomper9417

9 ай бұрын

He really led em down the garden path

@lynnetrathen4587

8 ай бұрын

They were an embarrassment 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

@user-ll6zn3xv9v

25 күн бұрын

Nothing new. If this was a politician, he would have been under the jail.

This case was a joke, I'm sure they did a better job in the 1890, can't even believe this happen just 37 years ago...

He wasn't fighting to be her father. He just wanted to win.

May I suggest you one case? "The case of Nimol san" nimol is the name of the victim who only 7yo at the time when the monster do the unthinkable to her, but she's survive the unthinkable, not just survive she's also the one that helps the detective Caught this monster and put him behind bars till this day. -sorry for my English-

i love that your docs focus on the courage and agency of the resilient people who survive or stop malicious people. Keep it up!

What a joke of a justice system. They could have easly moved her and her family out of australia. They could also go after him with speciall forces. Its the 80s they dont need that much to do that. I swear i dont understand how tf he could go on for so long without getting caught.

they couldn’t arrest him for stalking or domestic violence ??

@vv8134

9 ай бұрын

Laws are kind DV so back back then not sure even a law existed for it

@bullshitstomper9417

9 ай бұрын

They run the drug ghettos then and they run them now.

This just tells me the intelligence (or laziness) of Australian law enforcement. There is none.

Just a correction he was a volunteer firefighter that wasn’t his regular job. Also thanks to a brave news investigation he was arrested and convicted.

Very irresponsible for the police to let multiple people die before they took that woman's warnings more serious. Unreal 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

This is such a sad story. That they couldn't match the evidence they did have to Leonard has got to be so devastating for all parties involved. What an evil man! Andrea made an awful, horrible, no-win decision to give him her daughter to stop the killings. Finally advancements in DNA technology caught up with him. So glad that Andrea, Trudie and Judy get their freedom from fear!

Its absolutely insane that even after they put him on 24 hour surveillance he was still breaking into places and setting bombs, and pretty crazy they didnt check the church for a bomb after that breakin, especially after nothing was stolen.

Imagine how much simpler it would have been to have just been a good father who shared custody of his daughter with his ex-wife.

I will never understand how this woman gave up her daughter to a murderer, I could never. I mean she did save lives by doing that but I just don’t know how she did it.

My God, do cops in Australia have to see the crime in progress to arrest somebody for it?

@airplanemaniacgaming7877

5 ай бұрын

Not if theyre investigating the corruption of the government they dont (FriendlyJordies' editor got arrested for bullshit and even now is still dealing with those false charges. Look the lad up, his deep diving into the corruption of NSW [The place where this whole shitshow also happened in] will both amaze and disgust you. The man got FIREBOMBED for crying out loud, yet he keeps going.)

@user-ll6zn3xv9v

25 күн бұрын

They are stupid.

As an Australian and being one of my favourite channels it’s morbidly cool to see another video about my country

The fact that mobody went and broke this guys legs, and or the cops didnt just arrest him, is despicable.. there are cops in every cou try throwing people in jail for what may as well be chewing bubble gum, and this dude walls free although they knew exactly whom it was.. unbelievable, every body after the first famioy court bombing is on the polices hands

I would have taken my kid and gone into hiding …. That devil would not have gotten near my kid again.

@aromaladyellie

9 ай бұрын

She did do that and he still killed people. He killed or hurt people who helped her get away. They had to constantly move to hide from him. He was always pursuing them. It was only a matter of time before he found them and murdered her as a final show of control. Then Trudy would ONLY have him. Or murdered Trudy.

@afriendlycadian9857

8 ай бұрын

Honestly I wouldn't as I couldn't live with myself if I knew that multiple people have been killed and seriously injured because of me keeping my daughter. I would have gave her up to save more people

That's why I continue to say that most times when some not All but some of these parents swear they fighting and want their children so badly it's more of a control thing and narcissistic behavior than it is them wanting the child. Because as soon as she gave in and he met another woman had started a family with her, he didn't want anything to do with his daughter that he literally murdered, harassed and threatened people for allegedly just to see her. Then once he got her he was very controlling and verbally abusive towards his daughter, because I saw another documentary were she is talking about she couldn't do anything not even have friends or any kind of social life. Some of these folks in family court to mentally and emotionally drain and torture the other parent and they don't care anything about their child. 😢

@julialee143

7 ай бұрын

Yes yes yes. This is my dad 100%. I’m finally free

We appreciate your insights on this. You have a knack for articulating your thoughts well.

This is a story of Australian police incompetence. Absolutely enraging.

@RoseDylan228

6 ай бұрын

I notice everyone hates their governments and law-enforcements.

@janicevasey4038

2 ай бұрын

The law always seems to be on the side of evil! You had to be there to judge not by these days. Ray Watson paid a very high price.

As the ever-wise Judge Judy says: 'You have to love your children more than you hate each other '!

A sad and heart wrenching case of the most incompetent, useless and innept law enforcement system I have ever heard of!!!! 🤬

Australian law is the weakest I've ever seen. Lord have mercy.

@LibbySlaughter101

8 ай бұрын

Have to agree. We had an attempted home invasion & it took the police 6hours to attend the desperate 000 calls we made. When they got there, they couldn't have cared less even though it was the second night in a row he'd tried to get in! We had to move out and spend over a week at a motel while we waited for security to be installed. As soon as we moved back into the house the security alarm was triggered & this time the police casually rolled up at 10am the next morning! - They couldn't understand why I refused to speak to them except to tell them to get off the property!!

Is it alright to beat someone’s knees in if they threaten our lives? Just asking for a friend.

Not to be overly critical, but I can’t imagine this guy remaining free for 35 years if this went down in the US. DNA technology was plenty far advanced in the early 2000’s to match him to these crimes, but he’s not even arrested until 2015? And maybe wouldn’t have been at all if it weren’t for journalists bringing attention to the case? I mean….

@CynthiaNotG

9 ай бұрын

Similar has happened here though with DNA. And quite a few exonerations of innocent people after years. It’s just sad and scary how so many slip through the cracks. What an evil man.

@FelonDog

9 ай бұрын

You're giving the US too much credit. lol

@colinwoods9601

9 ай бұрын

@@FelonDog If someone was bombing courthouses in the US, I think there would have been a bigger sense of urgency than 3.5 decades to get the guy they KNEW did it already.

@Sunflwr

7 ай бұрын

Since he was going after government officials, probably, but if he was going after others, nah

@user-ll6zn3xv9v

25 күн бұрын

​@@colinwoods9601 this. This guy would be found and under the jail quick.

It’s so sad that that little girl was an object to her “dad”. Because the lengths he went to just showed if HE couldn’t have all control over his child, everyone who kept him from having that control, would be exterminated smh

An amazing story. I am lost for words. Thank you for the excellent cover ❤

I wonder why Trudy was never included. Has she since passed on? Was she just not as willing as her Mom to bring up the horrible past. That would be a perfectly understandable reason if she chose not to. But I don't recall hearing anything about why she wasn't. Maybe I missed it. It seems like such a glaring omission. I:m just curious as to why she's not featured. So many people here left with so much destruction and heartache, and so many others carrying so much guilt with them over their life, even though he's the reason for all of it, not them. And he still got to live out the best years of his life free. Still, it's good to see him finally get consequences. I only hope he spent all those years worried and looking over his shoulder about that day. Great videos!

@chelelunam6107

9 ай бұрын

Near the end he says Trudy her Mum and her sister (I think) are still close

@forchrist013

9 ай бұрын

She moved away from him when she was 16.. and he let her go

@silvershady484

9 ай бұрын

Is the mother of the child Are you nuts.

@Nikita.1989

9 ай бұрын

Trudy is now married and has 2 beautiful daughters. Her mum lives close by.

This one guy controls everyone out of fear and nobody could stop him? Kind of amazing

@bullshitstomper9417

9 ай бұрын

He was a government worker after all

@imbatman8472

8 ай бұрын

100% Alpha

Breathtaking incompetence by Australien police. Why didn't they put this monster under surveilance 24/7???

That was one of the wildest Tru crime stories I've heard, and I've heard a lot. Great work, keep it up

Sad to say this, but shame on the justice system! All they had to do was privately follow him. Idk the laws in Australia, but wire tapping, PI’s, or even just a police officer in a long term stakeout, could’ve saved many lives. They should’ve listened to her, and done everything possible. The judiciary connections alone, should’ve been enough. 😢🤯 Side note, he reminded me of John Wayne Gacy 🤢

SMH…😮 how can this man do all these killings right under the police’s nose and get away with it for so long? If they ever had searched his house in the first place, I’m sure they would have found some traces of the material used on the bombings.. very poor investigation. The fact that the mother had to give up her daughter to stop the killings, instead of police doing their job, made me furious.

Very well made piece, high quality with such sound presenting of the facts. Thank you ❤

Just discovered your channel, and very much enjoying your content!! Keep up the great work!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Useless idiots . They knew all the time who he was and were not able to get a search warrant and find smth to put him away for good. INCREDIBLE !!!!!

@mandywalkden-brown7250

9 ай бұрын

No. Idiot, there’s a thing they need first - evidence and they had none. Are you really this stupid that you don’t understand how the law works? There seem to be an awful lot of you ignorant, uneducated morons making inane, inaccurate comments on this vid. Just shush you brainless person, you’re tedious in the extreme.

Love your channel, keep em coming !!

@NulzSWE

9 ай бұрын

._.

What insanity is this? I can't fathom how they let that monster roam for decades. What incompetence.

What a weak law system! This guy should've been dealt with so many times before it got as far as it did!

Really enjoying all these 🇦🇺 Oz cases. You're finding some wild ones! So far, I don't think I've seen any of them covered by other True Crime Creators. I had forgotten about this guy, but now I definitely remember the Family Law Courts Bombings! Well Done... This Aussie says more please 😊

Sorry to be the one who is keeping my thoughts real: When she gave up her daughter to the murderous father, all those people died in vain, including her brother Steven. Never EVER willingly let a child go to the hands of a psychotic person. At the end when she says, "if you are in an abusive relationship, you need to get out, especially if you have kids". I laughed because while she did get out, she ended up giving the child to him after he had killed numerous people.

@patb9463

8 ай бұрын

I thought that too ! HELL would freeze over before I’d hand over my CHILD to this monster! I’m sorry, it’s SICKENING! 😮

Wow!! Atrue crime case I have never heard of And it is so incredible. Thank you!!

The fact that they didn't even just go ahead and charge him for the smaller stuff he's been doing blows my mind. Like not even for harrassment or a restraining order. Sure a paper wouldn't stop him but it sounds like they didn't even really try to take action.

This is why women don't leave abusive relationships because they never stop tormenting them

This is the second documentary I've seen on this case and it is still just mind blowing to me that he was allowed to get away with all of this AND get custody of his daughter. If I was Trudi's mother, I would have disappeared with her (it was easier to disappear back then) to parts unknown. There'd be no way in hell I'd let a murderer have my child.

Amazingly well done video

This was infuriating to watch. The U.S. definitely has poor law enforcement and a terrible justice system but what took place in this story is absolutely egregious. The victims need to be compensated by the government. Crazy.

I think police could do better...i mean,come on.

@ihatemorons4135

9 ай бұрын

Right they could have simply followed him the day before and day of him going to court and they could have stopped it much much sooner

@bullshitstomper9417

9 ай бұрын

Look at New York

@LibbySlaughter101

8 ай бұрын

If they had brains yes.

WOW, such a brave kid !

Astounding story I would probably never heard about if it wasn't for KZread and your work! I'm amazed by the sheer number of documented nutcases like this that we get to know about now. Great work! I used to believe that people were kind first and foremost. How naive of me!

This is my new favorite KZread channel!

this is the most incredible case

I am gobsmacked by this case. There are no words. Rest in peace to all those who passed. I hope that the survivors are able to find peace. 😢

Thank you🙏💔🕊️

All evidence was pointing to the father and he was just going around and killing anyone that stepped in to help her. So I believe it was the Australian police and court system that failed this woman and her family and all the ppl he killed families.

Excellent video

Yay excited for a new video!

God bless you all. My deepest condolences. Congratulations on the imprisoning of this evil man.

They caught up late but they did. Rot in hell. R.I.P. to all those who succumbed to this man's deadly hands.

This is so sad, all those lives lost because of this selfish heartless man. I can’t imagine how this woman feels thinking that if she hadn’t married this evil man how different life would have turned out for her 😢

@janicevasey4038

2 ай бұрын

She just has to focus on the good - Trudy!

Bless you

Way too long to catch this murderer. 👀SHAMEFUL

This is so sad