I'm definitely disappointed with Toyota and that Frontier is looking far better to me now more than ever.

@imho624

24 күн бұрын

Brotherewwwww

@williammiller6422

23 күн бұрын

Toyot is dead, nissan on top now v6

@car-diologist

22 күн бұрын

@@williammiller6422 At least concerning the Frontier, yes I would agree.

What are you talking about "quality issues" $50k basic midsize pickup truck on 31's Nothing but hard cheap plastic interior The glove box rattles A tailpipe that hangs so low, people thought it came off the hanger 2.4 turbo engine w/ 8 speed transmission on stock tires getting reported average of 17.5 mpg's 18.5 gallon fuel tank 😂 most KZreadr's reporting getting 280 on a full tank I've got a 5th Gen 4Runner 4.0 V6 w/ 5 speed transmission that gets 18 mpg's mixed driving.....w/ a 23.5 gallon fuel tank. I get around 345 to 365 on a full tank The new Tacoma is a big miss, on so many levels. Plus Toyota moved production out of the USA to save costs ..... but gave the American Toyota fanboys a big middle finger....by raising the price 8 to 10 k over previous Gen Nissan frontier is going to benefit and bigley 🎉

@BX_Staff-Home

23 күн бұрын

Production has been out of America for years.

@Mikef1969

23 күн бұрын

The frontier has already benefited from Toyotas mistakes… Just look at the sales numbers… You also failed to mention the many error codes people are getting under 10k miles… Nothing like buying a new truck for over 50k and it tells you to take it back to the dealer…

@juniobohol964

22 күн бұрын

My 2021 TRD OR Tacoma is made in Texas. But my coworker 2020 TRD OR is made in Mexico. I wonder why?@BX_Staff-Home

@Mikef1969

22 күн бұрын

@@juniobohol964 they are all made in Mexico now.. they have been transferring them down there over the last few years…

@RobMotive

21 күн бұрын

@juniobohol964 1/2 have been assembled in Mexico for years.

Over priced for sure. I'll keep my 2022 SR5.

@edwarddillon6016

10 күн бұрын

I agree. I have a 2020 SR 4x4 with the 4 cyl. It works for me. If for some unseen reason I have to replace it . I will be buying the Nissan Frontier. The 4th Gen Taco is bust my opinion and research. I call it the TocomaTundra Mistake.

I had a frontier as a rental in Colorado not too long ago. The truck was fun as hell to drive in the mountains and off-road

Maybe Toyota needs the wake up call...

A four cylinder turbo midsize truck that is struggling to get 20 mpg and costs $40 to $50k plus for base models…🤔.

@sanchezzz1

15 күн бұрын

It's not about fuel economy but for emissions.

Yes …Absolutely they did … Toyota needs to get their 💩 together and bring the 6 cylinder back and put the V8 back in the Tundra

@JoeK0322

24 күн бұрын

I keep hearing about overheating issues with large tires. Why they went 4 turbo on a truck that so many people mod blows my mind.

@RobMotive

24 күн бұрын

I’d be shocked if they did either.

@RobMotive

24 күн бұрын

@JoeK0322 I have heard that here and there…but nothing confirmed?

@Mikef1969

24 күн бұрын

They will never do that, it’s gone for good.. Don’t blame Toyota as much as the US rules and regulations… I am more upset about the cost. I got a Canyon AT4 for 7k less than the Taco and have a far better interior and warranty. GMC gives a lifetime power train warranty and $26/month got me a 100k bumper to bumper warranty… I do love the new taco body style but not for that cost difference. Also an unproven engine. GMC’s motor has been out in the full size for 5 years now..

I'm still stumped as to why you bought a 2024 so soon , I would have thought to wait & see what happens down the road, just surprised you bought so quickly.

All keep my 22 3rd gen Tacoma! V6 💪🏻

I have no interest in the 4th gen

@jonathanratliff4780

24 күн бұрын

Thank you lol

I'm getting 21.5 mpg in my 23 Tacoma with the Pedal Commander set on sport 2. Toyota should of kept the V6 as an option for the Tacoma IMO...

@leefleming1938

24 күн бұрын

What tires are you running? Your numbers are good.

@ubangiestomp

24 күн бұрын

@@leefleming1938 The tires that came on it. Hence the good fuel milage. Just keeping my foot out of it and letting the Pedal Commander take the lag out of the throttle. When I first got it last year I was getting 18.5 before break-in.

They’ll definitely need the funding they signed up for with going the turbo route.

I've tried the new truck and I like it. The price is the sticking point for me.

It’s finished for me. Price is $20,000 too much and I dont want a turbo 4 cylinder truck. I will have to love up my 2017 Tundra for the rest of my life 😂

The fact is that NOBODY was buying the Frontier until toyota priced themselves out of market for the average dad and worker. I own a 2020 trd sport and will not be paying $15k more for a comparable 2024 one here in Puerto Rico. Dealer called me to trade in mine and offered me MSRP on the new one.. 😂😂😂

I reserved a new Taco sport with the premium package at $55k. After doing tons of research I went and got the new GMC Canyon AT4 for $7k less with a far better interior, tons of soft touch materials and 20” rims/tires. It also has full leather seats, free app access for 3years and a life time power train warranty. Added an extra $26/month for a 100k mile bumper to bumper warranty with an engine that has been in the Sierra for the last 5years. To many unknowns as far as the Taco goes for me and interest rates are simply way to high to buy a used 23 taco when GMC is giving 1.9% for 36 month loans. I’m lucky as my home is paid off so the higher payment wasn’t an issue to get the lower rate..

Got a ‘24 Canyon AT4. Amazing truck in every respect. Beats the Tacoma in every category and thousands less expensive.

@RobMotive

24 күн бұрын

Have you driven the new Tacoma?

@Holden-McGroin

24 күн бұрын

@@RobMotiveNope. Never driven any Tacoma. It’s a completely underwhelming truck. Actually considered getting one because they still offer a manual, and then found out it sucks because of the engine tuning. The Canyon has 30 more hp, 120 more torque, 400lbs higher payload, 1,300lbs more towing, and the exterior and interior aesthetics and fit/finish are on different planets. Not to mention that apples-to-apples the Tacoma msrp is $5k-$8k more than the Canyon. It just doesn’t stack up. Not saying it’s a bad truck, but it should be the cheapest in the segment, not the most expensive.

@RobMotive

24 күн бұрын

Huh? You’ve admittedly never driven a Tacoma? How can what you’ve said be taken seriously in anyway? SMH…..

No but they’re going have to do something drastic to draw people back.

Very body was complaining about the 3rd generation about gear searching and no power and the seating position now they fixed all that you can't please a lot of people what ever you do I'm glad i have my 2024 tacoma TRD off-road they fixed everything

@RobMotive

24 күн бұрын

Absolutely!

@bx_718stryker7

24 күн бұрын

except you're missing the biggest part most of us never wanted gone, which was the v6. We wanted more power out of the v6, not drop to a 4 cylinder turbo. The price they are asking for these new Taco's should have been the V6 with the turbo and battery pack.

@austinwade3194

24 күн бұрын

Come on David, those "fixes" do not cost 10-15K neither are they worth it. It wouldn't have cost them anymore to do it right the first time.. anyways gear searching has never been a problem for me because I'm the one who selects the gear, be a man and get a manual for crying out loud! lol

I am in a city that has 450,000 people and I still have not seen one driving on the road. To me that's weird.

@RobMotive

23 күн бұрын

That is odd.

Toyota has lost their way and their minds. Regardless, I will certainly be considering other brands if I am forced into the truck market anytime soon. I will NEVER buy a 4 cylinder truck.

I own a Toyota and will be looking at a Ridgeline or Frontier now. Yes everyone say Ridgeline isn’t a truck but it has a 6 cylinder and not going the 4 cylinder route

Let see if this can hold up to 40k miles

Toyota has been building 4 bangers for decades on the turbo diesel Toyota Hilux with no issues. The Hilux sells over 600,000 worldwide. The biggest issue is pricing. I believe the other issue is not enough of the 2024 🌮 Tacoma is built yet since it is all new. The Toyota Tacoma will be no.1 in midsize sales again in 2024 . However, competition is getting better. Look at the Ford Ranger raptor, chevy Colorado zr2 as examples.

Drove a manual. Didnt like how low it revved and felt really slow. Plan to drive the auto soon. One pulled up behind me yesterday in the bronze color. It looked really nice and appeared a little bigger in size. Still on the fence. But tbh the canyon is starting to look like the way.

Hey Ron did you fix your sinking seat? Mine does it bad

@RobMotive

24 күн бұрын

I have not! Although I am now convinced it’s not just in my head!

@leefleming1938

24 күн бұрын

Rob

Fixes- drop the price 3-5k, offer incentives, extend powertrain warranty and make the fuel tank bigger. I was interested but the pice and tiny tank lost me so I bought a 21 tundra instead. Fits my needs perfectly.

If, remain turbocharged Toyota Tacoma it is finished.

So many of the commenters are misinformed. Take pricing, for example. The $3000-5000 off MSRP prices that dealers are now offering and/or are agreeing to when pushed brings the cost of a 4th gen Tacoma down to very near what the 3rd gens cost in 2022 and 2023. Ditto in regards to fuel economy. EPA figures for the 3rd gen 4WD V6 were 18 City, 22 Hwy. For the 4th gen 4WD 19 City, 24 Hwy - an 8% improvement, plus the 4th gen has slightly faster acceleration and greatly improved low rpm throttle response. And no transmission gear hunting. 4th gen rear coil suspension offers greatly improved ride comfort. The steering feels more nimble, The seats more comfortable, The seating position more car like. The commenters ignore all of the above a whine like toddlers about such mundane things as "cheap plastic interior" "glove box fits loosely" "tailpipe hangs too low"

@RobMotive

23 күн бұрын

What’s being complained about now is very trivial. Kinda grasping at straws just to troll.

Another thing to consider is how the tundra recall affecting the Toyota brand and its sales across the board

@RobMotive

23 күн бұрын

Definitely not positively.

The MPG in the 2024 Tacoma is really no different than my 2019 SR5 v6

@RobMotive

23 күн бұрын

Not a whole lot!

I think Toyota is eventually going to make the Tacoma all hybrid just like they did to the Camry

I love the new gen 4 tacoma but they quit making the trim I like, and Pay more for less tech

The 2024 was never about increasing fuel economy. ITS ALL ABOUT EMISSIONS. The 4cyl turbo meets the government regulations.

It is a I am not sure about the 4 banger for me yet.

First year . Give it time. I personally believe it will all work out. People will get accustomed to the Turbo 4 and if no significant problems arise like in the 22-23 Tundra it should be ok. This turbo 4 has been around for a few years ( with slight modifications for other Toyota models) . Quality should be ok. Now price…. That’s another story. That will most likely come down a bit as well. !

My RWD V6 gets 23 mpg on the highway. It did better without the cap. Never got below 20 mpg.

Hi Rob, what do you think about the on going Engine recall of 2022-2023 Tundra and other toyota SUVs? You think the new 2024 Tacoma will be one of them?

@RobMotive

16 күн бұрын

I think it’s horrible! I do not think it will impact the Tacoma.

@Sebastian-Lucas

16 күн бұрын

@@RobMotive have you heard that before Rob before considering getting your Taco? What was your hint it will not impact the Taco? Just wanted to get peace of mind too as I have my 24' Taco as well.

@RobMotive

16 күн бұрын

This came up after I had my ‘24.

I think distribution is also a problem. Here in Kansas, there is no inventory on lots. I keep seeing videos with full lots (east, west) elsewhere. I don't get it. I probably would have bought one, but they are rare and few around here. Especially the higher trims.

@RobMotive

24 күн бұрын

Inventory does seem to be hit or miss, but it appears numbers are increasing.

@ampalxsportlb2061

24 күн бұрын

@RobMotive I hope so. Toyota Tacoma will be fine.. to answer your question!

@conehead44534453

24 күн бұрын

I had to order a limited Tacoma and wait about 3 weeks to get it. I did pay sticker price . But I love the truck it’s great. I live on the gulf coast out side of Houston

Unwise choices? Yes. Can Toyota survive this? IMO, yes. I still trust Toyota more than the big 3.

All talk still no mods

@RobMotive

24 күн бұрын

I call that variety.

That’s pathetic gas mileage for a 2 wheel drive.Your old truck was a TRD PRO 4 wheel drive.

@RobMotive

24 күн бұрын

I have never owned a TRD Pro.

@davidsigmon4462

24 күн бұрын

@@RobMotive Your Green truck wasn’t a pro?

@RobMotive

24 күн бұрын

@davidsigmon4462 It was a TRD Off-road.

@davidsigmon4462

24 күн бұрын

@@RobMotive Okay!

As you know Rob. The future is electric only. That is what I was told. So until the Tacoma hybrid comes out, we won’t know how it does.

Recently bought my 2024 Tacoma and I love it! 4 Cyl Turbo is very responsive. Everyone is saying the price is outrageous, but I compared the TRD Sport with comprable upgrade with new Ranger and Colorado and found the price to be about the same, if not a bit higher. Sorry guys, I have no issues with my new Tacoma. Test drive it before you knock it.

Because of that high price Toyota already made as much as the did in 2023 with sailing even less inventory than 2023

@RobMotive

21 күн бұрын

No way.

I've owned a couple of 4 cylinder Tacomas for the past 30 years and find the new truck very over priced. While I appreciate the advancements, the other automakers have stepped up their game considerably. I believe the sales numbers will be more evenly spread across the various automakers. Unless Toyota addresses the clear price gap, the competition will take advantage and under cut them to gain market share. Nissan is putting a lot of money on the hood these days. I'm see more and more Frontiers on the road.

Yes they absolutely did! And you bought one 😅

@RobMotive

24 күн бұрын

I am a visionary 👍

My 2021 is paid off but if i had to buy today it would be a Frontier. I'll be keeping my eyes on the current generation's reliability

Let’s see what all the Fleets replace their 3rd gen Tacoma’s with. Every company from Plumbing, Irrigation and Pest control running Taco’s….we’ll see.

@RobMotive

24 күн бұрын

Interesting…I never see Tacoma’s used as fleet trucks?

@Teacher659

24 күн бұрын

@@RobMotive Lots of them down here in Florida Rob, used for delivery and as work trucks. Same as the S10 pickups back in the day.

@RobMotive

24 күн бұрын

@Teacher659 Must be a regional thing.

@Sentry1835

21 күн бұрын

Here in Arizona, 3rd Gen Tacoma's are overwhelming used as company fleet vehicles.

To all you new Tacoma buyers take no offense to this but I recommend you check your oil level regularly & I mean 2 weeks regularly + carry a quart on you.

it's also because of inexperienced buyers. they are buying the tacoma name, not knowing what they are losing. like buying a 70 boss 429 mustang compared to a 78 mustang . sure the 78 is ok. but it's not what the older guys got.

Hey Rob, how many miles on your 2024 Taco’s odometer?

@RobMotive

23 күн бұрын

More than 1 but less than 1000😂

I have a 2024 Tacoma Limited! I have owned it now for 7 weeks & I have put 3000 miles on it! I have not had any issues with it & I really love my Tacoma; it rides really great! I don’t have any regrets buying it!

You have had time to do a fair amount of content. Had to buy for actual feedback and you got your color.

It would hurt sales if businesses bought them for parts dealers and other companies who buy a bunch of trucks. See a lot of Colorado’s for that use now. May not ever been a big sale arena for Toyota but.

Toyota is going to take a hit in sales. They took a gamble just like it did in 2002 with the side flares, which didn’t work out. I give Toyota 3 years with a new redesign and bring back to V6.

I'm waiting for the fifth gen Tacoma....skipping the fourth altogether.

@supermario6582

24 күн бұрын

Better start saving now! At this rate, the 5th gen Tacoma is going to start at $60k 😂

@richardstralow6314

24 күн бұрын

@@supermario6582 Right!!

If sales are slow might be able to get a real good deal on a Pro or Trail. Keep 24 sales down and good deals to be made. When I purchased my 24 Sport a month ago I got 2 grand off MSRP and got a trade in value for my 3rd gen for 1 grand less than I paid for it new.

@RobMotive

24 күн бұрын

Good deal!

At current MSRP Toyota can happily sell less units and STILL make more money due to reduced labor costs. Toyota ain’t budging. Side note: early adopters pay premiums costs and take on higher risks. Hope your YT channel offsets the price erosion.

The 4cyl turbo has to be better than the 3.5 v6. The ranger with the 2.7 ecoboost is going to be the winner in the end.

4bangers 😂😂😂 and stick a turbo on it bad choice. I believe the v6 will come back 👍

It's not the new engine. It's the price! 10k overpriced. It doesn't take a genious to know that.

@RobMotive

21 күн бұрын

Not anymore.

Quite a few people told you not to buy it but you did. Take the loss and go buy a Nissan Frontier. Toyota is 😵

@RobMotive

23 күн бұрын

I have no regrets on the purchase. Not sure why you’d think otherwise?

I had a Major milestone today. I saw a 4th gen driving on the road for the first time, even though it has been for sale for months. Someone finally bought one here😅

@johnnyperdue363

24 күн бұрын

I’ve seen two, possibly the same one twice.

They fixed the drain for the air-conditioned to they have a hose coming out on passenger side away from frame to now and now the frame is way better to

Look at all the Tacoma Commercials. They are staged in non realistic environments. A Turbo in rush hour traffic will make you scream No Me Gusta!!!!

@RobMotive

23 күн бұрын

Aren’t all commercials staged?

All I can say is I love my 24 taco glad I bought it no regrets and will pull my 20 ft boat as fast as I want to go

Rob, you say it "sucks" that you lost out on a multi-thousand dollar discount? Well, perhaps you should have excercised some self-control!

@RobMotive

23 күн бұрын

Sounds like something a parent would say? Since we’re not related, I don’t see your point other than to poke the bear (so to speak).

@richardepstein3494

23 күн бұрын

@@RobMotive Your always saying that you "need" a new vehicle for your channel content. In the future give yourself a chance to see where the car market is then! Yes, I am "Breaking Your Chops" !!

@richardepstein3494

23 күн бұрын

@@RobMotive Your always saying that you "need" a new vehicle for your channel content. In the future give yourself a chance to see where the car market is then! Yes, I am "Breaking Your Chops" !!

@RobMotive

23 күн бұрын

Lol! Ok “Dad”! 😂

My 3rd gens transmission had trouble finding the right gear in certain situations, the seats had terrible under thigh support ,the cab was noisier and had a stiffer leaf spring ride . 4th gen fixed those issues . Now the complaints are what ifs, except for the increased price.

@RobMotive

23 күн бұрын

Yup…a lot of assumptions are being used to try and backup unsubstantiated claims.

Rob, I get you are all about being positive but I believe Toyota has screwed themselves in a lot of ways. 2024 Tacomas are going to loose at least 20 percent of it’s value the first year. Wait for the second quarter report.

@RobMotive

23 күн бұрын

That sounds pretty negative to me.

I think they are good to go..have no regrets on purchasing mine as soon as I could..got 5k miles on the taco with zero issues to date…

@RobMotive

24 күн бұрын

Great to hear 👍

@johnnyperdue363

24 күн бұрын

Rob has about 200 miles on his now. 😏

@RobMotive

24 күн бұрын

@johnnyperdue363 At least…

I don't understand why your only getting 17.8 miles per gallon. I am consistently getting 21.5 every week. I am not driving just highway, I drive everywhere. My truck is a 4x4 to boot! Have you done a gas mileage check off the gallons on the gas pump reading. My truck shows 21.0 to 21.2 on the dash but in reality, I am getting 21.54 to more. I'm so sick of the negativity on you tube. These people are blowing smoke up people's asses with their bull crap and click bate nonsense. I love my truck it's ride is outstanding period! One guy said there are so many recalls on the 24 Tacoma, really name me one. No reply back because there aren't any, I asked when I went in for service. NONE, NADDA!

@bliz75

24 күн бұрын

I'm getting 21 mpg in the hills of Pittsburgh

@jerrydiver629

24 күн бұрын

I have 23 TRD sport. Get 24 on the highway and 22.2 combined highway and town. I don’t know where Rob was getting 17.8. I run the pedal commander on sport 2.

@hdfxst1521

24 күн бұрын

@@billw8476yeah my 23 SR 4x4 gets anywhere from 21.5 to 24. Even hwy I’ll get 23!

@austinradtke2896

24 күн бұрын

My 2013 Tacoma TRD with the 4.0 gets between 21-25 mpg without many highway miles. And it has 265/70r16 falken wildpeaks

Toyota has only themselves to thank for Destroying their own Truck Division..The 4cyl Turbo engine is a Disaster! The Tundra also a Huge Failure..They priced them to the Moon, so Sad their reputation in quality and resale is in the Toilet…

@RobMotive

23 күн бұрын

How is the 4cylTurbo a disaster? I love mine.

@spinfish1434

23 күн бұрын

@@RobMotive It’s more complicated, turbos, more parts and will never ever go the distance of a “Naturally Aspirated” equivalent, Facts… Forcing more heat and stress into a smaller displacement engine = Disaster. Toyota is charging a Fortune and driving away the Toyota fanatics of today and the past, myself included..

@RobMotive

23 күн бұрын

You’re making assumptions. Only time will reveal the new Tacoma’s destiny.

@spinfish1434

23 күн бұрын

@@RobMotive No Assumptions it’s a known FACT Turbo charged engines don’t last as long as naturally aspirated engines.

@RobMotive

23 күн бұрын

@spinfish1434 Tell that to a semi-tractor owner with a million + miles….

I always hit the thumbs up Remind people to do that 😊

@RobMotive

24 күн бұрын

Good tip👍

I’m sure when the hybrids get released those numbers will get a lot better

@supermario6582

24 күн бұрын

No they won’t. They have already released the estimated gas mileage for the hybrids and it’s not any better. It’s not designed to help with fuel economy. It’s for assisting the gas motor and giving the truck more power.

Garage princess

@RobMotive

22 күн бұрын

You seem fixated?

Too many people are putting the blame on Toyota .... How much is the government to blame ? With these unending fuel economy standards that the government imposes on auto manufacturers , Toyota and others are forced to create methods and new potentially unproven engines ( in a rapid manner ) to squeeze out tiny improvements in mpg to meet standards and quality control can suffer.

Not a fan of the 4 cylinder turbo and price, butI’m sure Toyota will redeem itself.

@elmocotaco995 0 seconds ago Carvana value on my 2022 Trd pro Tacoma went up $5400 from last month. Think they know something lol. Can’t wait for my 22 4runner pro to be worth 70k next year

@RobMotive

23 күн бұрын

So are you selling?

@elmocotaco995

23 күн бұрын

@@RobMotive Nope, plus its a manual in Lime, but buying Blue flame gr corolla circuit to add to the stable