Ok, I’m enjoying all your comments including the critical ones, however, I need to clarify some things. You need to own what you say and I will not accept ones being disrespectful towards anyone in my videos. By disrespectful, I mean calling someone a moron or an idiot. Being critical of someone’s driving is ok, but let’s put this all in context. Mike was new, but he just wanted to prove his vehicle could keep up as he got quite a bit of hate prior to even going off-road (From some in a local Jeep FB group). Now, Sean, Zach, and I told him numerous times to take it easy, but it’s also his vehicle and we’re not going to force someone to drive our way. Also I didn’t see all of his wheeling till editing and I can guarantee neither did the others so we really didn’t get the same picture y’all got from this video. Did he wheel recklessly? Yes. Did he get home safely? Also yes. Was he with a crew that wasn’t going to abandon him or anyone else? Absolutely. This is the deal, I do not want any vehicles damaged during these trail guides especially like this (it is a pain in the ass to get a disabled vehicle off-trail), but it is possible (I mean we’re dropping vehicles off ledges and big rocks, what do you expect?). I do not and will not push anyone to take a hard line for video purposes. These videos are designed to get people into off-roading (and show Colorado). Breaking vehicles is an easy way to get people to say nope so our goal is get through a trail safely and hopefully still be entertaining. Recently I stopped one of my buddies on wheeler lake’s the flopper. Could he have done it? Absolutely. Did I know how to spot him SAFELY on it? No. So, I appreciate all of you for watching these, for subscribing, and definitely for commenting. I realize most of the comments are good natured even if critical so keep it up and yes, I do reflect upon the insight given. This just needed to be said based on some comments being posted.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it was a hard lesson to learn, but, he learned and is better as a result! I get annoyed by it because it’s usually from wrangler owners who think they need 37s to actually wheel hard stuff. They’re dumb tho 😉

@lovebug91988

3 жыл бұрын

I love the videos you guys post. I know which FB group you're referring to, happened to me too. I just got a 2020 KL Trailhawk. It's still stock but I'm planning on doing some mods to it in the future. I've only done a few easier/moderate trails so far but I'm always looking for others that I can handle.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they go overboard sometimes. Also, I was dumb for forgetting that was why We originally connected. It had been a few weeks from his FB post at the time of filming. Thanks for watching!

@kevingonzalez9592

3 жыл бұрын

I love your videos, I have a Renegade stock as well and I was able to to this trail no problem, since its a easy trail, Mike was just pushing the jeep to hard. Renegades are good cars for off-road and they can handle probably as much as a wrangler, if you take the big rocks out. I don't know why there's to much hate to a nice suv.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

It’s maybe just the times... this was published when we were in lockdown I believe (but filmed prior to it). A stock renegade can do tincup, but I do want people to use this video as a reminder to not wheel alone.

I felt like I was watching early footage of Whistlin Diesel putting a Jeep Renegade through it's paces in this video. Dude was driving that thing like he had ZERO fucks to give. love it!

@coloradomallcrawlers

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, there’s a backstory to this that I should have done better at explaining. He was bullied for owning a renegade in a FB Jeep group.

Dewey, my wife and myself have just recently discovered your channel and it has made us add wheeling Colorado to our bucket list. We try to only watch one a night because we don’t want to run out of episodes lol. You’re doing a great job and we really appreciate what you are doing!! Thanks!!

@coloradomallcrawlers

2 ай бұрын

That is awesome! Welcome! Unfortunately, I’m a slow editor and Drew is also, but that is because we want to make them as good as we can. I do think we’re getting better as we go, but we still have a lot to learn. Thanks for being here!

Loved this video! I grew up riding up Tincup Pass with my grandparents numerous times in an old stock CJ5 as a kid. I'm 36 now, and I, nor my grandparents, have been up Tincup in 23 years. They're in their early 80's now, and my brother and I are loading them, our wives, and kids up in our gen2 raptors and going to take them up for 1 last hooray this July so that they can share the same memories I have and love with their great grandkids. We are all stoked! I am highly impressed with that Renegade. I knew it would do new Tincup with no problem, but that is impressive for it to handle the original trail. Looks like ya'll had a good time!

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! We hope to get back to tincup ourselves this year. You guys have fun!

Holy crap 😂 That Renegade can take some punishment! I actually was thinking of buying one and wondered what those little cars are capable of... I guess I don’t have to worry about slamming it into a rock wall every now and then. Thanks man!!! Hopefully the driver’s car is all well and can take it a little slower next time :)

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they’re little tanks! We have a video of its recovery and all turned out well. Mike was a new off-roader, but he’s a smart guy so he’ll take it easier in the future. Thanks for watching!

@H3YB33ZY

3 жыл бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers is that recovery video on your channel as well? Just looked and I couldn’t find it. Love watching those little cars side by side with the classic Wranglers and more heavy duty Cherokees. Keep up the good work! Subscribed 👍

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it was a short one and hopefully the next recovery will be better. Here’s the link. Thanks for the support! kzread.info/dash/bejne/hJOky6eDdaS2h8Y.html

This music made me want to come along for the ride. Love the addition of all the old houses/buildings

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Well, let’s take your 4Runner as I’m told I don’t film enough Toyotas 😉

Definitely added to my list this year, thanks for play by play. Really helps with a rig like mine.

@coloradomallcrawlers

Жыл бұрын

I’m glad the video was helpful!

This is my favorite video Micheal is my brother in law you did a great job having his back and I appreciate it . Much respect for you brother! Great video!

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, stuff happens and we have to learn from our experiences. Still, he didn’t deserve some of the comments on this video... off-roading isn’t about if a breakdown is going to happen, it’s about when a breakdown is going to happen. The next video, middle st vrain, I broke down and it won’t be the last time. Thanks for watching!

Recently did a trail with similar difficulty to this one here in south africa withmy stock Renegade trailhawk as well. He got to slow it down and really pick your lines properly. The Renegade just keeps impressing me though. Been able to keep up with much larger vehicles. A vehicle that you don't have in the states thats massively impressive offroad and even smaller than a Renegade is the Suzuki Jimny. Those things are unstoppable

@coloradomallcrawlers

Жыл бұрын

Definitely and the Jimny is really cool… many of us here wish we could one. I love my wrangler, but if the Jimny was option, I’d try to pick one up as a second vehicle.

I took my GX470 up Tin Cup when it was bone stock. Had to choose lines carefully and got asked if we were lost or told to turn around many times. Props to Mike for having the balls to bring his Renegade up there. Although a bit naive, the guys gusto must be respected!

@coloradomallcrawlers

Жыл бұрын

I bet that was fun! He definitely learned from this, we all did!

@kennethcurtis1856

Жыл бұрын

Would love to see a WW2 era stock Willys and Renegade TH tackle this together.

Dude in the orange Jeep is brave as hell. A lot braver than I'd be in a new vehicle.

@coloradomallcrawlers

Жыл бұрын

Lol, I thought this comment was going to be for Mt. Baldy. Thanks!

Awesome video. I have a 2019 Cherokee Trailhawk and cant wait to run it thru this trail. I cant believe that Renegade go thru most of that.. that thing got hammered!

@coloradomallcrawlers

2 жыл бұрын

Those little renegades are pretty durable!

Going up old Tincup would be a blast!! Thanks Dewie!

@coloradomallcrawlers

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely in the plans! Maybe not this summer, but our 2022 plans are pretty wild! My buddy and I are going to attempt some truly tough trails in our stock wrangler rubicon and bronco badlands. Plus we want to hit some trails we’ve been meaning to film for a while with the entire crew. I’m excited to get at it!

@rsdaarud

2 жыл бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers That's going to be great! Time to air down, ha!

"this isn't the way to the mall" -that renegade

We've all done stupid things in fun vehicles. This guy is immortalized on KZread. Been there, done that.

@coloradomallcrawlers

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, same here, and I was amazed that this video got hate as it was a part of wheeling in my opinion. However, we are going to film this trail again and Mike will silence the haters by showing he learned from this.

@EhdrianEh

2 жыл бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers I'd watch that! Maybe visit a good puddle of mud - people can gun it and have some fun :)

Ok, now I have to go to all of my Renegade groups and find this guy. What was he thinking? You said he’s new to the trails but has he ever driven a car at all before?? He was going “Full Send” the entire time. I’d never trail with a guy like that. It’s reckless and puts everyone in danger. Learn buddy and learn quickly.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Maria F yes he was, but it wouldn’t be right to force to someone to drive their Jeep our way in my opinion. I’ll think about it tho. Still, we talked to him throughout with suggested changes. I wish we had either Davon or Robert (from Slaughterhouse) to work with him in this one. I don’t know much about the renegade besides liking their size. However, he definitely learned from this so I think you’ll see safer wheeling from him now! Thanks for watching!

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Buddha Health He had it back running a day or so later thanks to Zach and fully fixed by the next weekend I believe.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Buddha Health tie rod, it’s in the other video on the recovery of it.

@kennethcurtis1856

Жыл бұрын

@chrisjames8580 As my wife says: Move over or smile as you go under!

You do a fantastic job on your videos!

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! That means a lot as I’m trying to do my best with them. Hoping they’re entertaining yet also helpful for trail planning. Thanks for watching!

Just ran this trail for the first time yesterday. Elmo to tincup. Your video really helped ! Thanks

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped! Thanks for watching!

I like when you talk about the trail. How to get to the trail, the elevation of the trail, the difficulty of the trail, the scenery, names of mountains, famous spots, types of trees, the weather of the time of year you on the trail, everyone in your group and the Jeep models everyone has. Never change that. You have great communication skills, keep up the good work.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely plan on always doing that! Thanks for the support buddy!

Camping atop Tincup Pass on a moonless night is amazing.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

I bet! Mt. Antero wasn’t bad, but maybe when we come back here, we’ll consider this. Thanks!

Thanks for bringing us along. Man that dude was driving that Renegade way to fast, and 'Full Send' is right. Honestly, its a testament to how far it made it before breaking, of just how well they can do and the abuse they can handle! That was only going to end badly.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

dorelse This comment is exactly what I was thinking while editing this. I didn’t see all the footage live and I was impressed by how much abuse it actually took. Thanks for watching!

Wow! Fantastic scenery. Reminds me of St Johns and Deer Creek outside of Monazuma. Loved watching this. Renegade was amazing. Had to watch the rescue, amazing as well.

@coloradomallcrawlers

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! It sure was!

Very nice trails. I really like your videos you make very good shots 👍

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I’m trying as I don’t want waste your time.

Thank you for posting this video, it was really enjoyable to watch, even if a little unnerving at times. I love the Renegade (and Wrangler) and hope to be buying one later this year, we now know how much of a beating it can take! Looks like a beautiful trail, I'm sure you all had a blast!

@coloradomallcrawlers

2 жыл бұрын

It was definitely an adventure! Thanks for watching!

Another great video. And the Oscar goes to..... the Renegade. That was fun.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you and absolutely! He definitely pushed that machine!

I really felt this one, and enjoyed your pure honesty in what was happening and why. Great editing too and really appreciate that you take the time to make these videos. I own about three nice gopros but I barely manage to take the time to take any video clips, and even once I've taken the clips its like pulling teeth for me to sit down and edit them. I know its a long tedious process, so thanks for doing that. We've only been to Colorado once just a couple months back and we did a lot of great hiking but we were too shy to risk our brand new 2020 Cherokee and didn't really know where a good spot to go would even be. Now I've discovered your videos and taking notes for ideas for our next trip out there. Your guides are really helpful and I appreciate that you don't sugarcoat things or edit down to only the sunshine and rainbows parts. You are showing us some real wheeling, great places to do it, and giving us the info we need to decide which trails we are comfortable tackling. Thank you.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate your comment. I try to provide reality as I don’t want to ever mislead people especially since we present these in a more informative format than a general trail video. Editing is a love/hate relationship for me, but I think it’s going to be a mostly love once I figure out what I’m doing (learning shortcuts, a bigger color accurate monitor, better workflows). I am noticing that I might be getting better at it, but I still hope to get much better. The Cherokee is incredibly capable, and I love watching it in action. We hope these only improve so you and others can continue to count on accurate trail info. That at least is our goal. Anyway, thanks for watching and we appreciate that you’re here!

Awesome video Dewey. Definitely looking professional.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you my friend! I’m looking forward to overlanding with you!

Nice! Been down that trail many times. Accidentally got on Old Tincup once and had to turn around. We like to do the 3 passes in one loop - Tincup Pass, Cumberland Pass, and Hancock Pass.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a fun loop for a full weekend! Thanks for watching!

Just found your channel You really deserve way more subscriber!!!

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I appreciate it and I do appreciate every subscriber... it may eventually catch on, but I’m still new at it. Most of the videos I’m still editing are filmed within a year of starting the channel. I’m hoping the next summer’s ones will be better!

The guy in the red renegade is fearless 😂

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he was, in the end everything worked out, but I’m hoping he’ll come back and run this again with us (but from the tincup side) and show everyone how much in control he is now.

Sway bar motor? You have sway bars? These are Mall Crawlers! 😂 I'm having a blast watching you guys beat up yer Almost Jeeps. Hey good on ya for getting out there. CO sure is fun!

Dude in the orange is the definition of drive it like you stole it!! Slow and control wins in off-roading

Very great video! I haven’t hit these trails but want to next summer for sure. Looks awesome up there. I want to hit Pearl Pass and Taylor Pass too

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

You have too... it so pretty and there are so many trails around there! Thanks buddy!

Driving critiques aside I enjoyed seeing what the renegade is capable of. I own a Deserthawk and am new to off roading. It’s nice to see that they’re more than capable. It’s my daily driver and would like to take it out on some easy trails around my neck of the woods to start out and it gives me some perspective to the capabilities. Thanks for the video!

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely do!

@jerroldshelton9367

2 жыл бұрын

Do it! Mine has taken me places most people would presume it isn't capable of getting to.

At he beginning of this Video, watching that neon orange Renegade, I was LMAO thinking "oh...this is gunna be good!" But Damn! That scrawny little thing with the golf cart tires kicked butt!! Had the dude been a little less reckless (as in slow down) he would have made it out just fine! Just goes to show ya that you don't necessarily need a 9" lift kit with 37" tires!🤣

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 ай бұрын

Yeah he was new to wheeling back then.

First of all, I love your videos. One of my more favorite channels. Keep up the good work! I came here to harp on the Renegade driver, but it seems others have done that job for me. I cringed a lot while watching him. One suggestion for the videos: when showing a car's specs, why not freeze-frame for a few seconds while the car is passing so we can read the specs without missing any action? You could make the overlay more prominent, too. Sometimes I don't notice them at all until the second (or third) viewing.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Duilio Proni Thank you so much! That means a lot to us! About the car text boxes, I can definitely play around with that. My goal is to eventually add specs into the video descriptions, but it’ll take me some time to get to it. Thank you for watching and I appreciate the feedback!!

Very enjoyable video. I was surprised at just how capable the Renegade was. I have generally considered them to only be a half-sibling in the Jeep family. That it was left on trail was much more to do with some overly enthusiastic driving than a shortcoming of the vehicle. This is one aspect of this guy’s videos that I enjoy the most; seeing different models of 4x4’s and AWD’s compared in the trail environment. I am especially interested in seeing how “Cherokee-class” CUV’s perform on the trail. It’s surprising how good the electronically-controlled 4x4 systems have become, and from what I’ve observed, Jeep’s is about the best.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I’d like to Mike back on tincup to show how far he’s come, but we’ll see. Really appreciate your feedback and thank you for watching and commenting!

Another great video Dewey ! Loved the ‘other’ Jeeps too ! Keep it up ! Hope to get to wheel with you some day :)

@coloradomallcrawlers

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much and that’d be awesome!

We ran Tin Cup/Napoleon/Hancock last week (8/11) in our RZR. The guy at the St Elmo store said a bear (nicknamed "two-tags") has been tearing up St Elmo. I rigged a tree lift for our food at our campsite and we had no problems.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

WorkFromHomeFriday yeah, it was the group next to us that left their stuff open and brought the bears. A open CJ7 definitely had a bear inside it. I’m not too worried about bears, but mountain lions are a different story. I’ve seen some at work that are just massive!

@WorkFromHomeFriday

3 жыл бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers We've had lions picked up on our driveway cam. Those dudes are HUGE.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the biggest I’ve seen is this one near somerset co. We’re about 15ft in the air in a locomotive and this cat was 20-30ft ahead of us on the tracks. It’s whole butt filled the width of the tracks. I thought it was an escaped African lion 😂

Wow that was not easy , that was scary I'm glad everything turned out ok I love the Rene it just needed some tougher tires and a little more lift and I'm sure the next time everything will turn out perfect, awesome video.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, me too! I do think it would have been fine with a softer touch while wheeling, but those would definitely have helped! Thank you!

@jerroldshelton9367

2 жыл бұрын

It didn't need lift and tires as much as it seems to have needed a "driver mod," IMHO.

Good details. Also noticed no one was aired down. Would have helped with traction climbing and down hill on rocks. And you can manually disconnect sway bars with a few wrenches.

@coloradomallcrawlers

Жыл бұрын

The Cherokees were aired down. My philosophy is to air down as needed. A trail like this shouldn’t require airing down besides old tincup. Thanks for watching!

Just some free advice, not trying to tell anyone what to do. On my offroading and even my on road vehicles that have that cheap plastic cladding down low, I pop it off and replace it with truck bed liner. If you want to learn how to weld, some custom rock sliders are a great start. If not even renegade rock sliders can be ordered on line. Thanks, just a couple of thoughts.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know! Thanks!

I can’t believe you let a stock renegade not only drive that trail but drive it so carelessly. Nonetheless, I’d love to join you all someday.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Well, I agree. We tried at times to get him to go more cautiously, but I’m also not one to tell a person how to wheel their vehicle. I think he learned a valuable lesson though. Yeah, definitely!

@WorkFromHomeFriday

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. "Dude! Wheel placement!" "Dude! Slow down!!" (But, when I was that age, I had the same style in my stock 94 Explorer.)

@boudreau1020

3 жыл бұрын

From what I can tell, he has no idea how to select 4lo.

@Colorado4x4

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve got to jump in here, and I’m sharing this to share is all. I get what you are saying Dewie, I do and I’ve been there. I have grown over the years to speak up, and I/we know in our group that it is a mutual thing. If you see something, say something. I’ve said before “If I’m doing something that doesn’t look, feel or smell right, speak up!” The last thing I want is a rig on its side, broken parts or somebody hurt with people mumbling, “I knew that was going to happen” or “I saw your wheel twisted that way and I thought you were going to break something”. I don’t have an issue telling somebody what I think they should be doing. Crawl it slower, don’t bump it so hard, try this line and ease into it. We tell those things to each other so that the whole group can have a great day and avoid or minimize breaks on the trail. Anyways, that’s enough. Just sharing my thoughts. Great video

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Colorado4x4 I respect that and it’s definitely something I’ll consider in the future. However, everyone seems to be forgetting I didn’t see a lot of this till I started editing. I’m also not very comfortable telling another person how to drive their vehicle. I will say stuff like if it was my renegade I wouldn’t do that or I wouldn’t take a suv based 4x4 on that line. We also did encourage being easier on the Renegade multiple times and by the point I said “he says it’s a trail rig” we had said to go easier a lot. Zach also went on the non-old tincup route and I was pushing everyone but me to stay off of it since it was an unknown. This channel is not about breaking rides especially for most of us, we daily these vehicles. I also do NOT pressure anyone into taking a harder line or the same line as me. With that said, we got him off the trail without any assistance from others. Zach was a lifesaver to Mike. So personally, I like criticism, but it’s difficult to criticize this as the only people inconvenienced by this, was us. We also did a service to others by showing how much abuse a renegade can take. Finally, any day, any build, you could be the one that breaks.

Maybe it's just me but when I was new to off-roading I didn't go slamming into things. I may have good special awareness, but it looked like that Renegade driver did not know the height or space around theirs very well. Glad everything turned out allright, but make it an important rule to learn where your wheel placement is, height clearance, and proper speed for the conditions.

@coloradomallcrawlers

Жыл бұрын

He got harassed like you did in that FB group, but without your wheeling experience. That pushed him to prove the renegade was a little beast like it was in my slaughterhouse video. He just didn’t realize that wheeling requires restraint and that you can’t just bash through a trail.

@anatolearnold1633

Жыл бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers Sometimes it pays to have a more robust vehicle to handle your driving skill. While the Renegade is not a pick on my list for tough vehicles, I have watched many videos showing their ability, and they hold their own on many tails. I have seen the Trailhawk could use with a lower "low" range for tougher/steeper trails. Wishful thinking that they put the better gearing in the lower models in the future so it is just as capable as the rest.

You should also do a trail review for Hancock Pass, if you decided to go let me know! I've wanted to do that pass for a while now!

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s on the list, just not sure when.

Please advise what mode the Renegade was in for the trail. My 2015 Renegade Trailhawk in Rock mode with the descent control on does not lurch ahead like that. I have had several other Jeeps in the past. Its a very different feeling keeping the power on and letting the system brake wheels as it sees fit to send power where it will move the vehicle ahead. Im from the east, very different terrain on ME, NH, and VT logging roads and woods. Glacial rocks and logs, mud and hills slick with logging slash and snow.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t drive a renegade. We’ll do a walkaround of Davon’s renegade (blue one in slaughterhouse) and I’ll talk to him about doing a lesson for y’all. He has gotten that renegade to places people would never guess it’d go. Thanks for watching!

🤣🤣 by 3.00 .... ooooooh a little swamp !! we must jump in !! ............ like little kids 🥰🥰🥰

electric sway bar disconnect is awesome but nothing beats good old Manuel disconnect just simply pull the pin

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Very true, still wheeling a stock vehicle is about finding weaknesses. I went to a manual disconnect instead of rebuilding the electronics after this. Thanks for watching!

You finally got to eat 🍔🍟 at the end of the video.😄

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Long day but rewarding reward… I hope to show off more great local spots in future videos.

Excelente, muito bom, parabéns!! O meu ,Renagade, chegará esse mês... Ansioso! Brasil

Do y'all think a Subaru Outback Wilderness (9.5 in clearance) could make it to the 3.75 mi mark starting from St. Elmo? That would be right about at the start of the curve north if looking at the map. The Colorado trail intersects this road there, and I'd like to resupply some folks who are thru-hiking the trail this summer.

@coloradomallcrawlers

2 ай бұрын

Yes, but trail conditions can change so use your judgement. Your hiking buds will love that!

Makes me miss my renegade trailhawk so much😫😫😫😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

They’re great, maybe one day, you’ll have one again! Thanks for watching!

Damn that dude in the orange was really sending it

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah he was! But it all worked out!

Little Orange Compass is quite the careless one lol

Hello. the suspension of the renagad "red" origin or suspension to prepare? thanks dude

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

It’s completely stock.

Great videos...I like to view at 1.25 speed.

@coloradomallcrawlers

2 жыл бұрын

I’m working on pacing… I’m taking my first video making course later this month, should help a lot.

To put it carefully, perhaps the Renegade driver lacks a bit on wheel placement and throttle control... But wow... what a tough little machine. Going beserk mode nearly all the time crushing rocks instead of out manouvering them -- I thought it would quit much much earlier!

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Chriscovery agree, but he learned. Next year, I want to get him back on this trail to show how far he has come. We’ll see if it happens. Thanks for watching.

I really wish they gave the renegade a 2 speed transfer case, it does awesome and a 2 speed would make it a real bamf I’m in so cal so we will prob never wheel together but y’all seem like a real fun crew 👏🏼👍🏼👏🏼

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I wish they did too! Maybe in the future as Jeep realizes all kinds of Jeeps want to venture into harder and harder trails. Thanks for watching!

@jerroldshelton9367

2 жыл бұрын

I sometimes wish for lower gearing in my 2015 Renegade Trailhawk, but then I think about all of the places my father went in his '86 Bronco II Eddie Bauer with automatic trans that got a similar "twenty point something to one" crawl ratio from a 2.42 first gear, a 2.42 low range reduction, and 3.42:1 final drives. It took that to do what my Renegade Trailhawk does with a 4.8:1 first gear and 4.33 :1 final drives. And, my father took that Bronco II places that would have passengers needing spatulas to pry their puckered butts off his eighties velour upholstery, too. Having the 2:1 torque multiplication from the torque converter made his "B2" feel and act like it was lower geared than it was. Same deal for me in my Renegade. So, when I decided to buy, I wasn't worried too much about how the Renegade got 20:1 and I figured the 2:1 torque multiplication from the torque converter wasn't factored in, as it generally never is. What I was more concerned about was fully independent suspension. In reality, on trails like this one in this video, it doesn't suck nearly as much as I feared it would. Mine's stock except for 225 section BFG KO2's on the factory wheels. Future mods include cross bars for the roof rails and a factory or factory-type receiver hitch. And that's it. I'll let the vehicle's 8.9" of ground clearance, 30 degree approach, 25 degree breakover, and 32 degree departure angle be the "fuse" preventing me from taking it where it shouldn't go, and therefore helping prevent me from breaking anything important or expensive. But I'd do Tin Cup Pass in it without hesitation if I could do it with a friend in another vehicle. I won't be driving mine "full send" like the guy in this video drives his, though. ;)

What modefecatios added on the old jeep KL?

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

2in lift... if I didn’t put it in one of the text boxes, slaughterhouse will have his info. Thanks for watching!

I wouldn't want to buy that Renegade used :). But, great storytelling and awesome shots. I've ran that trail several times in a stock Liberty, it definitely takes careful tire placement and patience. Do you guys ever do meet ups?

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

😂 yeah! Thank you! We try to get a wide variety of vehicles in the trail guides if feasible. The biggest issue is scheduling as we all have weird schedules, especially me. We are hoping to do some overland type adventures in the future which will be less trail guide (we’ll still shoot those mostly though) but more adventure. I’m not a very good vlogger tho so I’m not sure how to do that yet. I think we tried on wheeler lake so I might play around with the footage to see if I can make something decent. However, that’s my idea on getting more people in the videos... figure we can have a big group and just go adventuring. Thank you for watching!

@amdestined

3 жыл бұрын

Colorado Mallcrawlers If or when you do a meet up, I would be down to join. I live in Littleton with a Cherokee Trailhawk. Currently, the only mods I have done is the Hazard Sky lift and running 265/65’s on it. More to come tho.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Cool, find me on Facebook... I have a schedule right now with Sundays and Mondays off, otherwise work at 8p the other days so I’m pretty flexible right now. Likely shooting something tomorrow.

In the beginning I was like I wonder which one breaks and then I saw the renegade driver. I wonder if next time he will take it easy. Not to be disrespectful but when he went full send and hit the horn I about died laughing 😂🤣😆

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I’m sure he laughed when watched that too... heck I laugh when I do it. I’m certain that he will as we all learned a lot from this day. Thanks for watching! I appreciate it!

Can pickups do this or just small suv

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

I have seen pickups on this for sure. The only thing is I’d make sure the pickup is tough so I’d have some skid plates and rock rails. However, you could do this trail without those by being careful with your line choices.

Jeep 2016 Renegade Trailhawk Recurring Power Driver Seat Malfunction (5X) Defective product or bad dealership repair service?

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

???

Renegade steals the show haha.

@coloradomallcrawlers

6 ай бұрын

It sure does!

What time of year was this?

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

We did it at the beginning of summer... the trail had just been cleared, but we were hoping the lake would have been higher.

Ooohhh that poor Renegade!

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but we all started somewhere... plus it did really have a bad or expensive break here. Thanks for watching!

22:12 That's Jan's in BV, right?

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

It was!

Just think way back in the 50's, one could drive a 1950 4 door Ford over Tin Cup pass. Once I found the new Tin Cup I never returned to the washed out Old Tin Cup.

@coloradomallcrawlers

Жыл бұрын

I heard Tin Cup was cleaned up a bunch after we filmed this video. It’s just the normal cycle of mountain trails dealing with snow runoff and enthusiast use.

Any lift or tires on the renegade?

@seanwatson3790

3 жыл бұрын

It www so stock it even had street tires on it. We at least got him to air down a tiny bit which I think helped him a little bit keep from puncturing a tire. But we did it , cautiously. Just from 40 to 30 psi. I don't know that the tires could have handled more than that

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

The adventure of a trail guide 😂

@Toycoma

3 жыл бұрын

@@seanwatson3790 the real mvp. Got damn

@seanwatson3790

3 жыл бұрын

@@Toycoma lol it was collective

Man, that guy beat the hell out of that Renegade!

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but it was pretty spectacular to watch it go. Mike also learned a lot from this trail.

@MichaelMiller-rg6or

3 жыл бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers I'd love to take my 4Runner down one of those Colorado trails, but I live in Florida.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelMiller-rg6or come visit! A lot of our friends wheel the runner!

@MichaelMiller-rg6or

3 жыл бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers someday, when I can get time off work, I definitely will!

Saxon Mountain this summer?

@coloradomallcrawlers

2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean? I’m trying to cover trails I haven’t already done and I have a Saxon guide altho it’ll need to be improved upon sometime in the future.

11:52 I'm like WTF 👍 you go boy if it breaks replace it with something stronger!! If that Renegade got a 4" lift and some meatier tires would have been good to go.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah! For sure! Thanks for watching!

@CrazyGreek80

3 жыл бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers great vids I live in SoCal.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Steve Kioussis thanks! I hope to wheel there someday!

I'm really surprised this trail is rated harder than Mosquito. Tincup is out favorite trail, but I dont plan on ever going over mosquito again.

@coloradomallcrawlers

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting, what happened on mosquito pass? Trails do change based on various factors. For instance I heard they smoothed out tincup since we shot this. I found mosquito rather easy tho, but if you start it via birdseye gulch, it’s much harder.

@TheFossilFiend

2 жыл бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers Mosquito had just opened 2 days prior and there was a lot of snow-melt running down the shelf roads. The switchbacks were washed out which left the boulders way more exposed. My 92YJ is a standard so I didnt have much choice than to just keep pounding over them without stopping and pray nothing broke.

@TheFossilFiend

2 жыл бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers same trip, Deer lake on Tincup trail was about 3 or more feet high. Had just enough lift and tire to keep only the bottom of the floor pan in the water

the guy in the renegade makes all renegade drivers look bad with that driving and rig set up for that trail jeeeeeeeesh that was painful to watch. that aside, Awesome trail and footage.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it was a bit rough, but we all start somewhere. Thanks! We hope to only get better as we are still relatively new to shooting trails.

What are the stock size tires on a Renegade Trailhawk?

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

They’re stock tire size.

@richfarfugnuven6308

3 жыл бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers I understand, do you know what that size is?

@richfarfugnuven6308

3 жыл бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers on the older 1's it was 215/65/17.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

I’m sorry man, I don’t know. But his was bought used so I’m guessing it’s an older one if that helps.

Are both cherokees lifted?

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

collin hutcheson grey is 2in, black is 3in. Later videos, grey gets the 3in. He will talk about his reasons and build in a future video if there’s interest for it.

@adrianharrison5208

3 жыл бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers did you make this video of the build?

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Yes sir, kzread.info/dash/bejne/onalsMSTZdS1kqQ.html

just a tip, reverse gear is your weak link, never pull someone out in reverse, good way to damage your stuff. Renegade was due to be broken, pushed it a lil to roughly id say.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Jeeping with Jenn & John Yeah, we understood that, but it was the only way here. However, it was a very light tug as I was just high centered. He definitely did, but you gotta learn somewhere! Still, that Jeep took a beating! Thanks buddy!

@seanwatson3790

3 жыл бұрын

Ya given the situation we were in, there was no way I could turn around cuz there was no room to do so. And i didn't have to pull very hard. That said maybe gift me the money for a steel bumper I want, and I can put my new warn 10000 lb winch on now, and then that wouldn't have been any issue to the jeeping community 😉

@jlopes68

3 жыл бұрын

@@seanwatson3790 just offering some advice, it is always situational as you stated but as someone who has sheared ring gears i think its something worth noting. take it as you will, but save the e begging for someone, uh less roughneck, than i.

@seanwatson3790

3 жыл бұрын

@@jlopes68 I literally was being sarcastic..

@jlopes68

3 жыл бұрын

@@seanwatson3790 hehehe

LOL 5:17 "Cah-rado" (Sorry. Just had to pile on that one.)

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

WorkFromHomeFriday I’m Dyslexic, pronunciation and speaking are not my strengths.

You should do Saints John Trail

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Mark Jackson likely will come back in the future, but my first trail video was that one. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gZV8s6uGpa2WaLg.html

@LostWastingTime

3 жыл бұрын

Colorado Mallcrawlers Sweet! I’ll check it out. I ask this because I worry about my Renegade handling this trail. What are your opinions?

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Mark Jackson I think you’d be ok. Just drive a bit more cautiously than Mike. Go with another also. The biggest concern is the descent at the top, but I believe the renegade’s low range should keep you in control. Have fun!

Good Grief!! You're a Trail Guide and didn't even coach these guys on driving a trail? Nobody guides them around the obstacles, but totally ok with videoing their foibles.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Terry, the video becomes a trail guide after filming using source material from Funtreks and TrailsOffRoad. I’m a participant, videographer, channel host, and video’s editor. I’m not functioning as a trail guide in these videos, the VIDEO is the trail guide. If I was functioning as a trail guide in the videos, I wouldn’t be able to film them. SO you are welcome to pay me money and I’ll safely guide you on any trail you want, but I won’t be filming. If I need to pre-run it, that’ll be extra. If you want it filmed, that’ll be additional money as I’ll hire Sean or Zach for their camera skills. They won’t be paid cheaply so that’ll get pretty expensive. OR you can use THIS FREE VIDEO as a trail guide to prepare yourself for the trail. Mike is a great guy and we discussed all of this prior to uploading, however, I didn’t expect to have so many critics and Backseat drivers here. We simply went off-road as a crew and filmed the trip. After the trip, I went back over the footage and made it a trail guide.

We did that trail many years ago in my wife's Jeep Grand Cherokee WJ. The Jeep did fine but she decided no more rough trails for her.

@coloradomallcrawlers

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a great trail, but I fully understand that!

6:56 automatic max trax boards

@coloradomallcrawlers

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm

This guy is simply killing Renegade. I am curious how Renegade survived even!! He was risking to smash it . This video speaks how good is standard Renegade Trailhawk!!! When you see someone driving that way better to guide him and loose little more time instead of loosing car and risking to destroy whole day and excitements from the beautiful nature and offloading. I am Renegade Trailhawk owner and was feeling pain each time he was smashing his car on the rocks :(

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Mikheil Saralishvili I explained everything in a pinned comment. We agree, but it wasn’t so simple, I only saw all of this once editing. Thanks for watching!

The regegade broke lmfao. Didn't see that one coming

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

the blue renegade in some videos has done much harder trails without issue.

Is the dude in the Renegade trying to break something? He's just ripping right through everything in his path!

@coloradomallcrawlers

2 жыл бұрын

He got bullied online for wanting to wheel a renegade so he went a bit too hard trying to prove them wrong.

@stevevice9863

2 жыл бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers He may want to upgrade to a Rubicon if that is how he wheels. Breaking down on a 12,000 foot mountain pass is very expensive.

@coloradomallcrawlers

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I’ve talked to him, we’re going to refilm tincup next summer from tincup Eastward and he’s going to redeem himself. He’s a good dude!

@stevevice9863

2 жыл бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers I did Imogene and Engineer this past August and one of my main phobias was breaking something and having to be rescued and hauled down the mountain. Not only ruins your day, but everyone else's day on the trail due to clogging up the works.

@coloradomallcrawlers

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it’s a pain and one reason I try to wheel with people I know and trust now. Still, even the most built vehicle can break on the trail so it’s just part of off-roading.

Dude, Colorado has L’s in it👌🏼 Two of them actually!

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Jacob Fulton I’ll take note, but considering I’m dyslexic, doubt it’ll make a difference. Thanks for watching tho!

@kennethcurtis1856

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know there was a Dude, Colorado. How are the trails?

Does the Renegade driver hate their car?

@coloradomallcrawlers

9 ай бұрын

Nope, he was just new and I was new at having people I had yet to meet on the trail with us.

@michaelw6277

9 ай бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers oh thank goodness

honestly if he had around 1.5 inches more lift he would have been fine.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 ай бұрын

You still have to not stress your vehicle too much tho… the goal is to get home. Still, he was new, we have to learn somewhere.

Good vid but man the guy in the renegade has a lead foot lol

@coloradomallcrawlers

11 ай бұрын

Thank you and yes indeed, a learning experience for sure.

@michaelmorr4403

11 ай бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers I was amazed on the durability of the renegade. Even tho it broke down on the end of the trail. It took a lot of abuse!

@coloradomallcrawlers

11 ай бұрын

It sure did!

I was a bit surprised that you rated this difficult, but it has been at least 10 years since I last drove it, so maybe the trail has deteriorated, as I don't remember it as being particularly difficult.

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Oops thought this was for Aldrich Lakes. Funtreks and trailsoffroad rated it as difficult. I agree with them. Old tincup increases the difficulty, but the top has some pretty eroded sections. It’s no Holy Cross or even Wheeler Lake, but you should have a decent enough off-roader. Thanks for watching!

I would like to know where the guy who is driving the renegade buys his gummy’s I want some of that shit

@coloradomallcrawlers

4 ай бұрын

lol

We must be starting to get big time finally , cus now we are getting comments , and people making fun of us , and being know it alls and I love it cuz that means people are paying attention to us now 😂

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Sean Watson well as we saw in the Chihuahua vid, I got some when I first started this. However, they had mostly stopped besides some light hearted fun (by most) about the way I say Colorado 😂 (which by the way has like 6 accepted pronunciations per Next with Kyle Clark 😉). Comments are good no matter what is said, but the commenter must own them and I’ll own mine. Unfortunately our friend Zed deleted his, but they were screenshot for probably a future video. People are just going to be asses as it’s easy to hide behind a keyboard. I’m just not a fan of comments that are being disrespectfully hard on Mike or anyone in the videos. Did he wheel recklessly? Yes. Did he learn and get home safely? Also yes. He is just a dude that bought a Jeep and wanted to enjoy exploring this beautiful state! He learned a valuable lesson on this trail. I may have not learned this lesson on the trail, but I learned it by being active with Midsouth Jeeps. We did some of the roughest east coast bashing around and people broke, a lot. It’s either going to happen to you, or you’ll see it happen to a buddy... the key is to learn from it.

Someone took "Drive it like you stole it" pretty literally.

@coloradomallcrawlers

2 жыл бұрын

True, but we all start somewhere. He fixed it and is out using it! He’ll be back in a future video!

Those guys going way to fast over some stuff i can't wait to get back to Colorado from ny this time driving My truck

Lightly used Jeep Renegade for sale.....

@coloradomallcrawlers

2 жыл бұрын

He still has it and will be in a future video!

That renegade is actually a FIAT

@coloradomallcrawlers

Жыл бұрын

Yeah and? The fiat Panda has been one of the coolest 4WD vehicles we couldn’t get in the states, now we can as a Jeep.

Al del coche rojo le va durar 2 días el coche jajaj

Great video but the guy in the Renegade needs to slow his approaches WAYYY down

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you and he knows! Thanks for watching!

@robertedwards7430

3 жыл бұрын

I don't say that from a critical perspective. Your content is top notch, I'm subscribed to a ton of overland type content and no one is doing what your doing as far as the detailed trail reviews. This channel is going to skyrocket at some point. Keep up the great work!!

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate that and I totally understand. My pinned comment was for some jerks who weren’t respectful. Some were deleted by the commenter, some still might be there. Anyway, thank you, but bare with us. I’m still learning how to make these. I’m not always happy with the footage I shot in 2020, but I’m trying to improve it. I’ve been thinking about the 2021 videos and I hope and think they will get much better!

I am suprised those renegades and new Grand cherokees can handle stuff like this

@coloradomallcrawlers

3 жыл бұрын

For sure, although these are just standard Cherokees, but the grand could handle this too! Thanks for watching!

@lukejohnson6623

3 жыл бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers it’s mainly that I’m just use to seeing like wranglers, xterras, 4runners you know 😉

@h3e44

3 жыл бұрын

I had a 2017 renegade and it was badass on trails my friends with wranglers would be shocked

@lukejohnson6623

3 жыл бұрын

@@h3e44 it’s actually pretty cool like I drive an xterra, and that’s just like subarus like people forget that stock cars are capable

It seems everyone driving Willy Nilly in this video. The Renegade driver looks like he was driving to destroy the thing. Not sure people should look at this as a guide in anyway other than what not to do.

@coloradomallcrawlers

Жыл бұрын

The renegade driver was new, the rest of us have a solid track record of getting through trails without issue. In 20 years of off-roading, I’ve never had to be recovered. However, I’d love to take a lesson from you to improve my skill set… Let’s set it up!