As a local who owns property in St. Elmo please keep in mind that this is a 4 wheel drive trail and absolutely has to be treated as one. DO NOT take cars that aren't made for rock crawling. The rocks are far bigger than they look and they will damage your car

@thekidcomn5938

10 ай бұрын

I have a 4 Runner with a 3 inch lift. Is that ok?

@DrJohn493

5 ай бұрын

Well, I did that drive out of St. Elmo up to the pass in my stock FJC with no problems. And I was towing a popup camper.@@thekidcomn5938

@HOTRODMONZA

2 ай бұрын

@@thekidcomn5938 I did it in a STOCK YUGO

Just ran across this video. Brings back fond memories. As a child, our summer vacations (1950s) were often trips to the mountains and exploring narrow gauge roadbed (my dad was a NG train nut). We had a 1943 Ford army jeep (4-banger flat head) and spent a lot of time on roads like this. When it got too rough, we'd hike from there. Most memorable trip was to the west portal of the Alpine Tunnel on the old DSP&P roadbed. Thunderstorms everywhere (scary lightning). In the late 1970s when first married and on a budget, my wife and I continued the tradition in a 1973 Toyota Land Cruiser (with our dog Ruff). We probably drove most of the old passes in Colo over a period of about 10 years. Only difference from your video...we rarely encountered other jeepers. Maybe 1 or 2 a day, often no one. We'd camp in Forest Service campgrounds (free at the time) and were usually all by ourselves. We could drink water from the streams without worrying about germs. It was a terrific life. These videos are terrific and very nostalgic for us. Thank you.

@roryreid3124

8 ай бұрын

I remember those days 👍😉

We own the Little Jessie mine. On the way to Hancock. My great grandfather was the postmaster there.

@HOTRODMONZA

2 ай бұрын

So do you allow folks to look around and metal Detect the tailings???

Thank you for reminding people to drink water. I feel like I am a broken record when my friends and family come to visit.

I've done that trail twice, one time going each direction. It is not a difficult trail but overall it is rougher/bumpier than average. The towns of Tin Cup and St. Elmo are interesting to visit. I think the trails south of St. Elmo are more interesting although Mirror Lake is very beautiful.

Great video! This was the first one I found and watched, in your library. I will plan to watch the rest of them!!! Thanks, keep sharing, stay safe!!!

Awesome video, and some amazing driving.

Back in the 90s we used to do Tincup Pass on occasion in our Ford Explorer - the 4 liter model with a two speed transfer case. I agree that low range and ground clearance is a must for this route, since the rocks are large and some of the rock steps are (were?) steep. Low range allows you to adjust your traction easier than just trying to 'run at it' when there's a significant obstacle. We had a beautiful spot right at the pass that we camped at several times and really enjoyed it, but that was before ATVs and UTVs became the norm and now, apparently, the road has sort of become a racetrack for out of staters camping down at Taylor Park. We avoid the area until late in the season, now.

I just did this in a f350 4 door long bed, no issues whatsoever, rocky as heck in spots but well worth it

Super cool video, It was like I was there with you. Great Drone footage.

Thanks for the video sir! Did Tincup pass with my dad in his stock F150 many years ago, it was rough. Just got done with a 2017 Colorado overland build and we're going to test it out on Tincup Pass and camp for a couple of nights.

Made this trail a few years ago absolutely loved it

I remember riding by St. Elmo back in 2014. I wish I had done more research on Tin Cup pass.

Awesome pass , done it twice .

We rode up there last summer on ATV's. The only Off road vehicles I saw that day were either Jeeps or Toyotas. I made the same comment in my video on my channel about the smell in the trees...It smelled like Christmas to me. The mosquitoes were terrible at that lake. Hope to get back up there this summer. I would never take my truck up to Tincup, and Carnage would tear up your Jeep. I liked your video.

At the end of your video you were at the trading post in Taylor park. Been there many times.

I was in Tincup last weekend and asked a local if I could make it to St. Elmo in my 2022 stock AWD Ford Transit. He said something like ".uck no!". I have only 6 1/2" clearance and now I believe him. If I lift it to 8" I may make it with a lot of work. Maybe next year. The AWD in the new Transit is amazing in the Mud & Ruts Mode. Steep climbs with lots of broken rock and ledges near Moab are no problem. I drive intermediate rated 4x4 trails there. I also drove to the west side of Alpine Tunnel near Pitkin with no problem. However, I would love to have a photo of my Transit on Tincup pass!

Awesome

21:26 that part was over 2 feet deep in water last time I went over the trail!

thank you for this... now i know i can make it in my truck....

I ran this quite a few years ago and Mirror Lake was higher and we drove that road through water over 2 feet

Thanks for sharing the trail. Nice drive I can take the wife on!

They definitely made this a lot easier by grooming the are near the 11:55 mark. I was rather disappointed. I was up there while they were doing it and they took the fun out of the trail.

@stacksmasher

3 жыл бұрын

Just go down the other side. Its still rough!

Fun Pass

We did part of it (90 min in, turned back to St Elmo) in a 4x4 small pickup and it was HELL. Your video scrubs out the actual roadway big time. It’s 7-10” granite rocks the whole way, except when it’s washout dips and peaks that would wake the dead. Seatbelt literally injured my chest.

@TrailTraveler

2 жыл бұрын

Its not a road for a small pickup, it's an off-highway trail, not a graded gravel road. You should have larger tires that you can air down properly for a more comfortable ride. If your seatbelt injured you, then you were going through it way too fast. A small pickup has very little weight and will bounce around hard on a rocky trail.

Great videos! Thank you! Been watching them in anticipation of getting back to Colorado. Probably a dumb question, but do you think a 2wd Ford E350 van would make that? I've driven over Ophir Pass, as well as quite a few rough forest roads, and I know that the camera doesn't really give a true view of things, but Tincup doesn't look any worse, other than the little offshoot you took to go around people. I run 265/75-16 AT tires and the van has quite a bit of clearance, and this would only be attempted in good weather, like you had.

@andrewhoran7088

3 жыл бұрын

Been over tincup a few times in f150. Only used 4 wheel to slow down going down to save brakes

@LifeOfIvyQuinn

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewhoran7088 Thanks for the insight! 👍

@heyeverybody5616

2 жыл бұрын

Yes if you go slow. You can definitely make it. Been there four times in a two wheel drive F150.

Hell I took my 1999 Superduty 7.3L Turbo over Tin cup. No Problem. I’ve driven this pass several time in the last 30 years. Great views.

I've been on this pass twice, years ago. Both times in September. The first time was after it had snowed. As I remember the trail was very rocky on the St. Elmo side. I didn't notice huge problems except slipping on the snowy rocks and the snow had filled in the spaces. I had an Explorer and this was the first time I'd done any 4x4 with it. The second time there was no snow and the trail was so rocky. At that time the trail was rated moderate. Now FunTreks rates it difficult mostly because of erosion. I really want to go again in my Jeep Trailhawk, skid plates, high clearance, exceptional tires. I feel I could do it, over the years I've learned how to navigate rocks.

@yehudadamari4399

2 жыл бұрын

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@codyjasper9691

2 жыл бұрын

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@yehudadamari4399

2 жыл бұрын

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@yehudadamari4399

2 жыл бұрын

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@codyjasper9691

2 жыл бұрын

@Yehuda Damari No problem :)

Could you give an estimate on the time frame to do the entire pass? Thank you, I really enjoyed your video

@TrailTraveler

2 жыл бұрын

2-3 hours depending on your rig

Is the decent at about 2/3 of the way through the video on the east side of the pass?

@TrailTraveler

2 жыл бұрын

It’s been almost two years so I really don’t remember

What were the estimated tire size on those stock Jeep’s? I have an XJ on 32s.. I should be ok right?

@TrailTraveler

3 жыл бұрын

You would be fine

16:31 The main trail is on the right side? and the rougher trail is on the left side? Thanks

@TrailTraveler

11 ай бұрын

The old trail (harder) is to the right. ALTHOUGH....This can actually change each year from erosion and washouts, but generally, the new trail is a little easier and less chance of pinstripes.

What were these old road used for? To get mining camps or what?

@TrailTraveler

7 ай бұрын

Here is some info: advtours.com/tincup-pass-info/

Do you think a stock tacoma TRD Off-road could manage this trail okay?

@TrailTraveler

11 ай бұрын

Sure, but you really are going to want to air down for it, so you will need a compressor to air up

The trail looks mild compared to when I did it two years ago on my motorcycle.

@TrailTraveler

Жыл бұрын

This video was shot two years ago.

I've been 4 wheeling for years, but I've never aired down my tires. What is the safest low pressure point you can go to without bead locks? I'm going next month, just want to check out the difference

@TrailTraveler

Жыл бұрын

We do not have beadlocks and we will go down to 10-12 without worrying about it. Below 10 starts getting a little worrisome still.

@cybervore

Жыл бұрын

@@TrailTraveler Thank you! I appreciate the info!

@HikeColorado

7 ай бұрын

I was reading once that 22 lbs should be okay but some are going much lower.

Nobody camps in September because it gets super cold at night!

@JayElement13

3 жыл бұрын

I do lmao

you "aired down" for tin cup? my friend drove his Subaru up there.

@TrailTraveler

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah and I would air down my Subaru too. It is an EXTREMELY rocky trail and I prefer my kidneys being in the same place they started. Airing down wasn’t about traction, it’s about comfort.

@KBrogger

Жыл бұрын

@@TrailTraveler I just did this trail this past weekend. I was in 2 low the whole time. Like you said, traction isn't the issue, peeing blood is. My brother rented a jeep, I was in my 40. He didn't want to drop pressure and I basically made him do it.

@TrailTraveler

Жыл бұрын

@@KBrogger Dear Lord, maybe should have just made him suffer. We just re-ran it a few weeks ago, I aired down to like 12psi, no need to go through the pain!!

@KBrogger

Жыл бұрын

@@TrailTraveler I'd be a terrible brother if I did that. LOL. Plus my two nephews and sister in law would have to have suffered as well.

How long does it take to get to tincup

@TrailTraveler

2 жыл бұрын

2-3 hours depending on your vehicle

First time I've heard the term airing down. Do you need to do this in an AWD SUV? Oh, I won't be driving this... is airing down just for rocky roads?

@TrailTraveler

13 күн бұрын

Any time we are on rough roads or trails, we let air out of the tires to improve comfort, put less strain on the vehicle, or to improve traction. We even do it in our Subaru if the conditions warrant it.

You definitely had an easier time than we did on this one 🤣

So why did you AIR DOWN??

@TrailTraveler

2 ай бұрын

Because I like my internal organs to be usable at the end of the trail. Tincup is a brutally rough, rocky trail.

So the route you took is not Switzerland trail based on your maps. Just posting so others understand and do their own research. Glad you made it out ok!

@TrailTraveler

10 ай бұрын

No, this has nothing to do with Switzerland Trail, not sure what you are referring to.

If stock vehicles can do it, they aren’t called “obstacles”. They are called rocks.

Stopped watching when the terrible music came on 😂

@TrailTraveler

10 ай бұрын

I apologize for your taste in music....seriously though, this is why Kateryna picks all of the music now.

@markaycock9835

10 ай бұрын

😂

@louispaparella5766

10 ай бұрын

mute button@@markaycock9835