The perfect blend of: desktop lack of mobility combined with the expected lack of performance from a laptop. MSI has done it!

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

They really did nail it! 😂

@heliumhubcryptocollective9337

2 жыл бұрын

ps if its not you. ..file a complaint with both youtube and the fbi, this is identity theft, fraud, if its not and should be reported to law enforcement.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

@@heliumhubcryptocollective9337 Hey! I just replied to your email. I’m sorry about that, these bots are really hard to deal with. I run TheoJoe’a anti bot thing several times a day and they just keep coming back.

@ShowbizSpy1

2 жыл бұрын

As soon as the bots start affecting momma Susan, then I think YT will do something meaningful about it.

@johanventer1478

2 жыл бұрын

David do you guys send winning gifts to people who comments to your videos? Somebody contacted me about some stuff I apparently won from your channel but I think it might be a scam...

That CPU cooler needs its own review video, to see how it cools something a bit more powerful :D

@buddylovesvideogames

2 жыл бұрын

Woah, didn't expect to see a coreross in the wild

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a great suggestion. That cooler really is weird. 😂

@raven4k998

2 жыл бұрын

well for a laptop the coolers is so way over sized and powered for a laptop

@jackahunalaguna217

2 жыл бұрын

Hy ross, where's the new r6s vid?

@alexanderunknown8605

2 жыл бұрын

12900K or 9900K at least😂

It's so frustrating to handicap a system by leaving out $40 of ram!

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

it Happens all the time though

@sniggles05

Жыл бұрын

For MSI a 8GB Module of RAM do not cost 40 Dollars. They get this Stuff cheaper. I think 10-20 Dollar per Module.

@heroe1486

Жыл бұрын

@@sniggles05 probably even less than that

@EllaBananas

12 күн бұрын

Imo its more than just frustrating, its downright shit. The whole reason someone would buy a prebuilt is so they dont have to worry about specifics like this, they want someone else to make sure the hardware is working as it should. The complete lack of care most prebuilt pc and laptop manufacturers have for their end product is straight up disgusting. "just throw some leds lights and a garish case over it, the morons will still buy it" Long term, stupid half thought out decisions like this are going to wreck them, but they dont care because of the short term gains they get by ripping people off. And yes. I do consider kneecapping the performance of a pc by half assed thermals and shitty rams config, ripping your customers off. They paid for that hardware, you have a duty to let it perform the best it can.

The quality and humour of these videos this guy should have over a million subs. The amount of creativity too. He doesn’t copy any other tech KZreadr either so it’s refreshing to watch his videos

@psttech4290

Жыл бұрын

lol right after this vid he went and copied another tech youtuber

Huh, whenever I saw pictures of this a few years ago I thought it was bigger and just used standard components. Didn't expect this bizarro layout!

@MrPruske

2 жыл бұрын

Ms-why??

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

I know right! What a weird PC.

@Alkastik

2 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuffshow someone that thinks prebuilts are better than customs and say "welcome to the world of prebuilts'

@AnnaDoes

2 жыл бұрын

I was also surprised at how little it was and with such a compact layout!

@Ferrari255GTO

2 жыл бұрын

Prebuilds often bring the most surprises... almost never good ones

"It smells like PC death" 😄 The common theme in your pre-builds is that the manufacture says let's design a PC and then cripple it by either having single channel memory or poorly cooled so that it thermal throttles. Got to love those speciality PSUs that will cost 1/2 the purchase price of the PC to replace. My 1st 2 PCs were bought as a package, since then built my own so as not to be ripped off.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah! It’s wild home common these short comings are in prebuilts. Although like you said, they are still a good way to get people into the hobby.

@erich6860

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta sell upgrades somehow.

@thelaughingmanofficial

2 жыл бұрын

Two Ram Stick are only included in their "Extreme Gaming" packages.

@Gatorade69

2 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff Or in my case I was out of the PC building scene for years and I had to buy a prebuilt just to get a damn graphics card. Now I'm working on upgrading it a bit but all in all I feel like I dodged a bullet. I have decent components and really good thermals. Skytech > Alienware any day of the week... Still would have loved to build it myself however.

@twiztedclown

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gatorade69 could have made the mistake I did going gaming laptop the 3080 in it seems to perform worse than my 2080 super and far more problems. Now I know it's a laptop you have to downgrade the max wattage but it was a 3080 which in canada is no less than $1200 msrp as is for a stripped down dual fan. Now granted I sold the desktop to my brother as he was really struggling to get into the space, but damn the laptop has about $700 on my entire pc setup and is meh. Love the looks love the feel of my zephyrus just mediocre on the performance.

People really underestimate how much performance they're leaving on the table with a single stick. My buddy had a Ryzem 2600 build that he had kneecapped with a single 8GB stick of 2400MT/s. I told him he'd be much happier if he upgraded his RAM, but he didn't listen and ended up building an entirely new PC less than a year later. 🤦‍♂️

@Gatorade69

2 жыл бұрын

People can be stubborn...

@blacklistedwarlock8550

2 жыл бұрын

Should I upgrade it?

@goa141no6

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, right now the good old gamer is making memory tuning and max tuning makes Ryzen 2700 perform as a Ryzen 3700 Wich is fantastic.

@HappyBeezerStudios

Жыл бұрын

@@goa141no6 But sadly a memory tuned 3700 doesn't quite reach a 5700 :D Still, memory bandwith i often overlooked. People look at that fast i7 and the "4GB nvidia graphics with DirectX 12" (which turns out a 1030 or something like that in the end) and ignore the fact that fast RAM in dual (or more) channel is just much faster. I noticed that stuff even on a Pentium 4 build with DDR2 and a Pentium 3 build with SDRAM I have here. Sure, upgrading the CPU and GPU will give more performance, but maybe you already have the fastest CPU for the board and hit the limit it can run at and your pgraphics card is the best you can afford, a rather inexpensive memory upgrade can go a long way.

When I saw you changing out the GPU I was like : cool , he’ll hook up the GPU to another power supply. And then when you didn’t do that, I was like: yeah this isn’t going to end well.

Imagine selling a still decent PC because you feel the performance isn't enough for you anymore but actually another used 8GB SO-DIMM for ~15$ could double the performance in some instances - and it could have done so many years ago. I don't know whether to laugh or to feel bad for the previous owner.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

I know right. They could have had so much more performance for the years they had it.

@jeffnickels2279

2 жыл бұрын

They probably never knew it had that other slot

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

@Jay Dee The joker story was definitely how it really happened. 😂 The only reason I thought maybe they ran it like that was because they left their 1Tb NVMe drive in the system. Why take out some laptop ram and leave a dope SSD you dropped in. But you’re right, Batman is the only explanation.

@nothin1456

2 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff lollll

@netii126

Жыл бұрын

And whats even more annoying - manufacturers of such PCs calling themselves "gaming" companies and then doing shit like that for a few dollars more profit. Shows how little they acutally care about their customers having a good time with their products.

I think that's a flexATX PSU so I think you could replace it easily enough. (Or at least as easy as it is in this sardine can) Edit: of course it's flexATX but still not standard, why'd I expect more from a prebuilt lol

@HighCastle0824

2 жыл бұрын

Could definitely replace it. Silverstone makes a decent 600W option.

@ogrooster69

2 жыл бұрын

I run an ENP 600w (7660B) in my Velka 3 build -- I drive a 3700x and 2070 off that. Cabling shout be long enough for this MSI tower

@Fay7666

2 жыл бұрын

450W is good tho, I ran a 7700K (stock) and a 1080Ti with a Corsair SF450. And I'd trust an FSP OEM just fine.

@TheGameBench

2 жыл бұрын

It's nice that they used a standard form factor... unlike SOME people.

@Durbanite2010

2 жыл бұрын

@@HighCastle0824 the Silverstone you're talking about is £200 here in the UK on Amazon. Oof. No thanks, I'd rather scrap the PC and recover what you can from the parts.

That power supply actually looks like a short server power supply to me. Maybe take some measurements of the PSU and do a little looking around for server power supplies to see if you can upgrade it to like, 600w? should allow the rig to have relevance again.

13:26 "That is a fan" I concur

Looks like a FlexATX PSU, might be able to get a semi-decent replacement

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been looking online for one. Really hoping we can get the 3080 ti running in here. 😂

@Deathcultify

2 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff there's some flex psu's from Geeek, I know FSP also makes some flex psu's with higher wattage. Maybe from sff groups on reddit/facebook have some. Had a used delta one before but had this noisy fan, if I switch it with a noctua wouldn't have been ideal since the fan would have been more expensive than psu 2nd hand price I got it from.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

@@Deathcultify Oh yeah, spending more on the fan than the PSU is a bit much. 😅 Someone else mentioned an FSP unit, I’ll have a look and see if it has the correct connectors for this system. Thanks for the feedback.

@samihyppia8472

2 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff suppppppp Dawiddd dudeeeeeeee PC murderer hahahahhaha, that was a fun one! :D PS. Gimme a free PC! xD

@mm8tech370

2 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff I’d recommend the 7660b. It isn’t by a brand you’ve probably heard of, but it’s one of the best flex psus out there

I am legitmately amazed that the fold-outy.... Ears?.. weren't wifi antennae. Since that seemed to be a custom'ish motherboard for that case, it would've been a nice touch.

@Gatorade69

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, haha. I thought those were WiFi Antenna.

@menix2384

2 жыл бұрын

Those seem to just be headphone holders from the marketing pictures, kinda neat still

@Krimpzz

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah surprisingly not many people know about the Aegis 3 PC I actually bought this in 2018 its the Special Edition MSI Aegis 3 8th Gen Plus. Alot of words but its upgraded with a GTX 1070 TI and i7-8700 (non K Version) 16GB of Ram Performs good in 1080p and 1440p just needs a graphics card upgrade. Idk what i could put in there though its super small in the insides.

@AnnaDoes

2 жыл бұрын

I know right! What a missed opportunity on MSI's side.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

I know right! I forgot to mention it in the video, but I was outraged when I say they weren’t antennae.

R.I.P prebuilt PC you will not be forgotten 🙏

Great video Dawid. Thank you for mentioning the HUD issue, I really wish developers would make it possible to set the HUD to 16:9, exactly for reasons you mention. I have been gaming on a Samsung G9 for about two years now and I love my ultrawide for gaming, when it works. Sadly not all games support it. Which can be frustrating, but when it works ... amazing!

@HappyBeezerStudios

Жыл бұрын

Or in general having a setting for HUD aspect ratio separate from the main resolution. Or even better, having adjustable "safe corners" where no UI elements show up. I mean, TF2 has different FOV settings for the general environment and the viewmodel, so it isn't a big stretch from there.

I would also like to note that this PC is (was) surprisingly small... It really looks like a transformer helmet or something. It also smelt like it was a well worn transformer helmet XD

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

It did really smell like a well worn helmet. 😂

@shaneeslick

2 жыл бұрын

G'day Anna, it smells even worse now it's a Dead Well Worn Transformer Helmet 😳

@SchoolforHackers

2 жыл бұрын

Oooh, stale sweaty head smell. Bonus.

@workpc3351

Жыл бұрын

@@baxkw006s NOP

I would love to see you replace the power supply with a better one that fits in that form factor and max that case out if at all possible

@luckyowl10

2 жыл бұрын

a decent FLX PSU that can run a 3080 TI might cost more than that whole computer

@Sundayinthelife

2 жыл бұрын

@@luckyowl10 this is Dawid does tech stuff.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

For sure! I’ve been looking for one that might handle the 3080 ti. Will definitely do a follow up video.

@Sundayinthelife

2 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff heck yeah

@Rentta

2 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff Yeah the 600w silverstone platinium one probably can.

that case is actually kind of amazing, with some basic mods it would be a great little gaming rig

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

yeah she just needs a beefier power supply and your golden for a rtx gpu without worrying about the psu burning itself out trying to run it

I have been using laptops for the past seven years now, but upgrading the ram to the max possible specs of the machine is always the first thing I have done so far, having carefully selected the ones that are able to do so. Well mainly for graphics editing and panoramas, but I suppose the games didn't protest too much either.

There may be a fuse that you can replace but you'll need to be very well protected and discharge the capacitors. However, it's also possible that this PSU only has a single use OCP.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s an interesting point. Either way, I’m going to look for a better PSU to see if I can get that 3080 ti running in there.

@RuggedKnight

2 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff unless it showed up weird on youtube it definitely looked like you popped the big cap in the middle of the PSU

@empoy65

2 жыл бұрын

@@RuggedKnight yeah noticed that too, looks like it was cracked open though it was not bulging

@rdoursenaud

2 жыл бұрын

@@empoy65 Nah the cap is fine

@rdoursenaud

2 жыл бұрын

@Just Ice Nope, just a huge inrush current demanded by the GPU is enough to blow protection circuitry and/or fuses(There might be several).

Some power supplies have a “heat fuse” (or whatever they are called in English), which prevents it from powering on for a while (usually around 5 minutes or so). Did you wait and see if it powered on again after a while? At least it’s an FSP flexATX so you can get a replacement if needed… Also, Gundam are cool. The model kits are fun!

@HappyBeezerStudios

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, thought that as well. Quite some units will stay off for a while after being tripped.

It makes sense it failed but not in that way as you stated. It was actually expected since the supply is dual rail with a 24A cap on each rail. Usually 1 rail is dedicated to the CPU, the other to the GPU+drives+everything else depending on supply. That means the 3080ti was feeding off a shared 288W total... which wasn't much at all considering other components.

@kelmanl4

Жыл бұрын

Plus a bad power supply would have killed other components rather than just itself. Atleast the built in protections work.

@BenState

10 ай бұрын

not on an EPS rated PSU. Only ATX 1.1 standard and earlier

Dawid: This PSU cannot be replaced. Flex ATX PSUs: Am I a joke to you?

@rossclutterbuck1060

2 жыл бұрын

it may b Flex ATX form factor, but it's not ATX spec connectors. That's the point.

@TheOriginalFaxon

2 жыл бұрын

@@rossclutterbuck1060 So? He has the connectors on hand

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

I had a falling out with flex a couple years back, and we don’t speak anymore.

@TheOriginalFaxon

2 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff Hey man we all have that one which went down that way xD

@rossclutterbuck1060

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheOriginalFaxon lolwhut? Are you suggesting Dawid buys a new FlexATX and then repins it with the connectors from the dead PSU?

Considering that cpu has a 65W TDP and should be boosting to 4.2 GHz, I'm guessing it was being artificially restricted by a bios setting. Also, why not attempt to power it with another power supply? Other than it not fitting in the case, it should still work for testing purposes unless the motherboard has some non-standard power connectors.

@raven4k998

2 жыл бұрын

probably needs a laptop desktop power supply I am guessing some sort of retard connector was used to prevent your idea from working after all this is MSI after all making the desktop they can do it after all Dawid does say that he can't upgrade the power supply which only confirms this cause if he could connect another power supply to power it he would reguardless of how derpy it may look just to see if it still works

@itIsI988

2 жыл бұрын

That's because of Intel's turbo spec. 4.2GHz is only for single core loads, 4.1 for two core and 4.0 for three and four core loads. Mine does the same even though all of the power limits etc are disabled.

@HappyBeezerStudios

Жыл бұрын

And unless it is a truly horrible OEM implementation, the board should still allow to set single core boost for all core loads.

What a cool project. Hilarious looking computer. It's amazing you were able to get the new mobo to fit in there! I love these kinds of videos.

8:35 I like how there is "UH NO" text on the RAM stick. It's like it didn't want to be part of this Frankenstein's monster of a PC.

Love the effort pain and work you put in this video! Especially love the before and afters, felt bad seeing you have to struggle to remove the gpu lol. Keep it up Dawid! 😁😊👍

I have an old MSI gaming pc that i have been using for like 7 or so years. I5 7400. 1050ti. And i upgraded the 8gb stick of laptop memory to a 16 gb stick. Has been pretty solid actually lol

@Mashamazzi

2 жыл бұрын

Why not 2 8s?

@Zacyz125

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mashamazzi because to my knowledge... my MB only has one slot. But this video kinda made me wonder if there is a second slot hiding on the backside of my MB. the backside of it though is basically impossible to access without taking the whole damn thing apart.

@timmy7201

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zacyz125 That's why you shouldn't buy an OEM system, to avoid proprietary nonsense like this. My old custom system is 13 years, upgraded it many times over the years. I7-920, 20GB ddr3, GTX980 4GB, Samsung EVO 250GB (Sata2) and WD-Red 3TB, ... I've a newer gaming righ, so it's mainly used for work related tasks these days (software development, Eagle CAD software). It's sometimes used for gaming during LAN parties with friends at my house, the old setup is still going strong after more than a decade. Plays most of my games at 30 fps or more, in high or ultra settings at 1080p or 1440p.

@Zacyz125

2 жыл бұрын

@@timmy7201 eh it is what it is. Paid $650 for it like 7 ish years ago and it came with mouse and keyboard as well. and it has never skipped a beat and always done its duty. It does suck that its not more upgradeable but im more than happy with the job it has done over the years.

@timmy7201

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zacyz125 $650? That doesn't actually sound that bad... Was there a GPU included, or did you have to buy one separately?

1:52 I don't know when you started building PCs but waaay back in 2005 or so the first NZXT product I ever saw was a cheap case that looked like Optimus Prime's head. NZXT sure has come a long way. Edit : NZXT Nemesis I think it was.

not proud to admit that i purchased this as my first PC 6/7 years ago. (was not confident to build me own yet) now its just a project PC. but honestly the only issue I really had with it was, the fan in the PSU being loud even on idle, I tried replacing it but wasn't able to get the one I got working. came with a GTX1080 and a 6700. it would get a bit hot but nothing crazy. i do like how different the case is, but i wasn't aware of the laptop ram until i got it lol.

Alma got angry that you stole it's 1070, so it decided to attempt a homicide on your 3080 ti lol

People have mentioned flex atx, but it looks to be in a 1U Server format. I have a LAN case from 15 years ago that uses one. Currently I've been running a 500w modular SeaSonic unit.

i remember back in the late 80s every new computer like the old 386 486s and stuff when you first turned them on they had a certain smell that invaded your nostrils not like burnt electronics but a new electronic smell.apparently now days they have pre sniffers cause new computers on first fire smell like nothing.

bro if that moving "ear" was a wireless antena i'd be dead rn 💀

That’s a super cool case, I wish they still made a prebuilt like that

The moment I saw this PC has a stand built-in I knew it's going to be a fun trash OEM PC. I had no idea Dawid will try to power a 400W+ GPU with a FLX 450W BRONZE PSU. I expected some fire down there in the basement xd

@HappyBeezerStudios

Жыл бұрын

A 350W TDP GPU with 400+W power spikes.

I have the brother to this, the infinite A series with the i7-7700, 1070, and came with 2 8gb sticks of ram. Got it in 2016, and been running it since. It's been able to handle everything at Med graphics or better at 1080p. Honestly couldn't be happier. Been debating on throwing another 2 sticks of 8gb of ram in for kicks and giggles to see what would happen...

13:15 - that's probably the first time ever that I can hear Dawid being really scared... :O

People worldwide suffered because they couldn't find a GPU not even now with MSRP prices. Meanwhile, Dawid is risking a 3080 TI´s life just for crapy pre-build.

@AnnaDoes

2 жыл бұрын

For your entertainment

I have to admit that case is cool looking, I feel like as though it can be modded to run better.

This was hilarious! Keep up these videos!

This man just called a Type-A USB port, a "square" port... Clearly that's a rectangle man!

And it'll be very hard to get a replacement for that proprietary PC parts, thanks OEM!

Buy a 750w flex PSU and try it again!

12:27 reminds me of when linus tried to use 2 3090s in sli, opened tomb raider, took one step forward in the game and it crashed

I have this machine! Though, mine came with a 1080 GPU in it, and 2 sticks of 8gb (laptop) RAM. My issue was also the PSU. I cannibalized the 1080, SSD and HDD into my first effort at building my own PC (turned out great!), but I think I will hang onto this case and custom components in case I feel like making a project out of it sometime down the line. I am still enough of a little girl at heart that I think the Transformers head is pretty rad, and I'd probably regret it if I got rid of it!

Well, compared to an Alienware, this isn't bad at all!

@tomasgarraxia5375

2 жыл бұрын

True

Lol Darwin gpu's are so fed up with being put into shit systems they are starting nuke everything he puts them in. The great gpu scarce now becomes the great gpu revolt.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

Haha!! Yeah, I don’t think my GPUs like me very much. 😅

@steelfox1448

2 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuffyour name is Darwin now

@steelfox1448

2 жыл бұрын

Deal with it

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

@@steelfox1448 😂

@arandomcommenter412

2 жыл бұрын

@@steelfox1448 He’s going to create the theory of natural selection

Dawid your videos always inform me and make me laugh.

Besides it running in single channel, that single stick of RAM also had a single rank. Big difference when you have dual rank RAM vs. single rank. Linus did a video regarding this several months back and it accounted for as much as a 23 percent loss when in dual channel mode. Imagine how much single channel, single rank would do to kneecap performance.

Probably the most hideous gaming case I have seen in my 50 year life! You have my ultimate respect Dawid where your sense of humour defies your wallet! Enjoy those 'Military grade components' 🤣

@rossclutterbuck1060

2 жыл бұрын

that case is positively gorgeous compared to the Kolink Big Chungus

@ThePhoenix198

2 жыл бұрын

@@rossclutterbuck1060 Noooo! Why did you make me look at that??? 🤢🤮

@rossclutterbuck1060

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePhoenix198 sorry

maybe the PSU had a protect fuse or something, at least the really older non-80 plus ones had so when they got overcharged from the wall, they would just sacrifice the fuse instead of blowing up the PC

@raven4k998

2 жыл бұрын

not likely he said the smell which means something cooked inside the power supply probably also the fuse resets if that had blown once everything's powered off plus listen to him at 15:10 that smell is not a blown fuse

@Sheovion

2 жыл бұрын

@@raven4k998 makes sense so i guess the PSU is even worse than i expected, 80 PLUS PSUs should turn themselves off once harmful behavior is detected

@raven4k998

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sheovion it's worse then that watch Timmy joes video on him blowing up a pos 500 non 80 plus even power supply he had to under clock components so it would blow up cause it otherwise kept shutting off to protect it self from dying from him being a moron with it which shows how much of a pos that power supply is for not even trying to save itself just going for it till it dies

@klocugh12

2 жыл бұрын

You'd need to take DMM and ring every element for continuity to know what died here. That could take some time obviously, especially since desoldering would likely be necessary. Also note that when fuse blows, just replacing it is not generally good enough. It blew for a reason, and when you replace it, it might blow again if you don't find and address the fault. It's pretty much like taking cough syrup when you have pneumonia.

@raven4k998

2 жыл бұрын

@@klocugh12 exactly

Just to note, FSP makes solid PSU's they are actually a PSU OEM for other PSU retailers. But yeah it did what it should have done, when you go way above the current draw to fast its going to blow, and not just trip. It probably blew internal PPTC fuses beyond the ability to reset themselves (these won't be those low voltage glass encased fuses).

Bro, “it smells like someone else’s house,” has become an insult I use frequently to confuse people now. Thank you for broadening my horizons.

I wonder who actually buys a rig like this? It's a genuine question

@erito9507

2 жыл бұрын

kids and parents who only buy it because it looks cool and has gaming written on it

Great video as ever! Serious question - what does a youtuber in your position do with an older gpu like the 1070 from the broken pc? Do you sell it? Keep it in case you need it at some stage? Just curious - keep up the great work!

@AnnaDoes

2 жыл бұрын

Heyyy Juss :) Dawid tends to keep as many components around for future videos. He never knows when he might need an old GPU to compare with something else, etc etc. When/if he's 'done' with a component then we usually donate them to our local Free Geek.

@jussinator

2 жыл бұрын

@@AnnaDoes Thanks for replying to my questions - it's great to hear that stuff like the gpu finds its way to people who need it. Keep up the great work!

@hicknopunk

Жыл бұрын

Compute in a linux box?

Dawid destroys tech stuff

I just love your sense of humour , keep it up man!

MSI vr series motherboards with laptop memory has a common feature they have a voltage lock on them on the board itself through their bios so if you go over the voltage lockout with higher cards this will happen, they stopped put limiters on the motherboards after the MSI tritan X motherboards and everything that comes after it.

Dang, at least the 3080ti survived, that would have been a tragedy!

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

I know right! I was panicking pretty hard for a bit. 😂

@johndepaszthory1246

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly would have been rolling if it died

Hey Dawid, im wondering if you resell pc's, cause you have accumulated a lot of Alma infected pc's lol, so do you lay them to rest in your graveyard? or do u resell them?

@fracturedlife1393

2 жыл бұрын

DDT: Shipping Alma worldwide since forever

This case reminded me of something. It’s just missing the PC master race meme guy stood on top of the case shouting down to all the console peasantry.

PSU is not done yet, likely just an internal fuse blown, they are sometimes labelled as a surface mount 0ohmR resistor. Quick fix once psu is liberated from the housing, lets see a vid, with a slow pan so we can inspect the capacitors and stuff. Fun vid mate.

Try to turn on the pc with another power supply :) and check that system working still

@rzeo7540

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah 🐵

That PSU dying without tripping any protections is a bit concerning. The curious part of me says you should sent it to Gamers Nexus to see what happened.

@wizdude

2 жыл бұрын

So we could watch a 30 minute video of Steve doing an entire breakdown, including all the e-mails between him, the manufacturer, some relevant government department and next thing you know there will be a nation-wide recall of the flippy dick case based on Steve's demo of how it will explode on demand :-) :-)

@rdoursenaud

2 жыл бұрын

What you call dying *is* tripping protection! The fact that the GPU survived is proof. There are protections that are single use (Think fuses) and needs replacement parts to work again.

@dashcamandy2242

2 жыл бұрын

Steve could start a "Better Than Gigabyte" rating for power supplies! LOL

@kelmanl4

Жыл бұрын

It died so the other components could live. He's was trying to draw twice the wattage with those parts and that's the protection a £30 psu vs £600 worth of components is a big difference. A bad power supply would have killed everything.

That psu should have overcurrent protection, I think there's a tube fuse somewhere there, but I wasn't able to recognize it in the video, but there should be a 25/30/35A fuse, probably it's only 25A judging by the video and when and how it went, you could try putting 5A higher, like 30A fuse just for those spikes that Ampere is notorious for, but anyway it's only 450W and only bronze rating after all, and even with 35W 7700T CPU that wouldn't be enough for Ti variant, but you could probably find 600W gold with same form factor

Just that reference to a "Gundam head" had me cracked up cuz that's the first thing that came to mind wondering if there's a Gundam edition motherboard 😅

FSP normally makes a pretty stout power supply that will test over the rated current...for a little bit before the fuse blows. Not exactly sure why someone would use a fuse rather than a circuit breaker....perhaps cost? Would have been interesting to have a watt meter on the system when it crashed...those 3080's really suck the juice.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

Oh you think a fuse just popped? I’m going to buy a replacement PSU and see if we can get the 3080 running in there.

@PaoloBussola

2 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff are you sure that 3080ti has the right measures tu put in contact fan with cpu heatpipes? You didn't have time to check cpu temperature in game.

The 3080ti is like the Diablo that Dankpods has, a ridiculously powerful piece of tech that destroys inferior technology.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

2 жыл бұрын

Haha!! Yeah, it really is a destroyer of worlds.

@goldenyoshi924

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

As someone who has blown a power supply via a graphics card upgrade. the video is pretty on point. system dies, smells, and doesnt turn back on. i threw an rx5708gb into a garbage prebuild with an fx6300 and 16 gigs of ram on a 500w supply. Fired up Assetto Corsa and didnt cap the frame rate. 120 fps on assetto and the power supply explodes with blue sparks out the back of it and a very loud electrical sound. smelled excellent and smoked a bit too

dawids got a huge set of balls opening that power supply like that

BTW: Quite an interesting way of putting things together by MSI - can't say I've ever seen an ITX mainboard crossed with a laptop before. Gotta give those old MSI engineers credit for thinking outside the envelope - shame they've all apparently since left MSI and now they just churn out the same stuff as everyone else. Seems the case engineers haven't left what with them still producing chocked off sweat-lodges, but hey, at least they're not as bad as Dell.

@reaperreaper5098

Жыл бұрын

I've seen mITX boards with SODIMM slots before, actually own one. Asrock makes a ton of them. They're generally running soldered on Pentium/Celeron CPUs, and are super low power, with really, really basic passive coolers.

Dawid is the type of chad where his crush asks him out

You can buy a new PSU for it those Flex Powersupplys are fairly common and even a 700W 80 Plus Platinum from FSP is available so a 3080Ti wouldn't kill it. And I don't know this PSU type but there could be a glass fuse in it which is blown and may be replaceable so the PC would run again.

Ampere is know to spike to 3x TDP for brief periods, that PSU's OCP had no chance to trip before it cooked from the 30amp to 80amp several millisecond jump.

Before you killed the power supply it really wasn't a bad prebuilt. I was expecting Dell levels of horrible when I saw that case and cooling design, but it surprisingly worked out.

@HappyBeezerStudios

Жыл бұрын

It would still do much better in a different case. Something with better airflow and a GPU mount that doesn't restrict access. Some nice SFF build would be possible.SO-DIMM usually means you don't have the space for desktop RAM, which leads me to believe that board itself was more designed for a small system.

It is incredible how msi managed to produce a relatively big pc with so little space inside.

@megachonk9440

2 жыл бұрын

Not really, all of these highly unorthodox cases in weird shapes tend to have very little practical space. Pretty much everything in a PC is a square or rectangular shape. When you start adding 63 degree angles into the case or whatever, nothing is going to fit well at all.

That was an "interesting" internal case design. Steve at Gamers Nexus needs to get one of these. It may make his hair fall out. The 7700K was actually not doing bad. 80ishC is high but not totally crazy. I was surprised that little heatsink and remote heat pipe worked that well. You never mentioned how loud it was. You should have looked at the paste under the CPU cooler at some point. I wonder if a re-paste could help at all. The 3080 Ti would have been fine with that PSU if you just shut off the LEDs :)

funny as always, though I feel like I should mention your treble is really high on your microphone configuration 👍 (s sounds are really really loud, noticed on a few different pairs of headphones)

When I buy a pre-built from a company like Dell, I know I will be damned with proprietory parts. But I would expect MSI who make mobo's and peripherals themselves, to use off the shelf components - especially the power supply! You didn't kill it Dawid, "clever" design killed it. (although plugging a 3080 into a bizarro-world 450W power supply is quite daring). Which raises the question...did the PSU have adeqaute connectors to even feed a 3080 ???

Only thing heinous about that PC is that it comes with single laptop ram stick.

i loved your diagnosis of "thermal management via ram kneecapping situations". it's not as funny as we might think. sometimes it's all about the manufacturer just selling more units without really caring what the performance actually is.

Check the mov at the mains. Could also be a fuse there as well.

Oh so the US Govt killed Optimus Prime and sold his head to a Chinese PC company to reverse engineer into crappy gaming PCs? Totally lines up. Also, I’m sad this is not a Linodeo, and yes I will keep using that word until you do the same Dawid 😂😂

@gamingtalent2888

2 жыл бұрын

Lets go, we want more Linodeos.

MSI turning into Dell recently with their QC

Last year i bought a LENOVO IdeaCentre G5, because i was looking for a desktop/laptop to game on (GPU in old laptop died) and was actually waiting for a specific gaming laptop to be released, when i could buy this desktop for 45% of the price (was an error on a website but it got delivered). So i paid 432 euro for a OEM build (which is not great), but for so little money i had (in a time of crsis: high tech prices due tot shortages) an Intel i5 11400F, MSI 1660 Super, 512GB NVME SSD and 1x16GB RAM. After about a month i purchased a second (same serialnumber) 16GB stick and i had up to 80% more fps in games. Only downside is that other things can be a bottlenneck now, but my point is: i was amazed by the performance difference because of the second RAM stick.

Worth the 2 unskippable 15 second ads

Man, it's not too hard to fix a such PSU... Maybe the smell was just overheating and only the fuse died, even though I think a power transistor/diode went short.

@RoseFBN

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah... Fix a power supply... That seems like it would be EXTREMELY SAFE🙄 no fire/shock/house burning down danger there!

@Zebra_Paw

2 жыл бұрын

@@RoseFBN I do it all the time. Just discharge the cap that contains rectified mains aka 325V DC with a power resistor (or just short it out but it will spark), and then it's safe!

@RoseFBN

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zebra_Paw for you maybe, but not for your computer or your house when it bursts into flames when you start using it again.

@Zebra_Paw

2 жыл бұрын

@@RoseFBN not if you have the skills to fix it like I fixed a dead corsair 750W PSU a few months ago, I have been using it in my gaming PC since then and it works absolutely fine!

The power supply may actually be almost fine, with only a blown fuse preventing it from powering up the PC. Even if that is true, however, the fuse is most likely soldered in, which means replacing it is really a job for an electronics repair technician or at least a reasonable facsimile of one. On the other hand as others have mentioned, that looks like a "Flex ATX" power supply and those are available in slightly higher power output models. But that raises the question of whether the system uses normal ATX power connectors for the motherboard connections or has MSI "done a Dell" and spec'd a PSU and motherboard with non-standard power connectors.

Having just bought an MSI GE77HX, I'm currently researching all things MSI. I'm having lots of trouble with the sound aspect and that is particularly troublesome because I bought it primarily for music production. Almost everything that I've learned about MSI thus far does not bode well. I've just subbed.

Kindiof a neat idea. I don't know if it matters to anyone in the comments but if you have a system like this its just using a sever psu, you can find many in the same form factor that handle different wattages. especially since it looks like its made for a 1u chassis. if you look i bet you can find anywhere from 650-1000 watt psu systems as used server psu in the same form factor. i have one from a Dell that i use to charge my drones.. cost me 35 bucks.

When i bought a budget pc for a few years back. That pc came with a 450 W power supply. It came with 1060 (2gb) card and only 8 gig of ram. I decide to do a medium budget upgrade to it. First i bought the same card as you used in this video. But i didnt use it after checking the box for minimum reqirements. The card needs a power supply on minimun 500W. Then i decide to go for KA 1660 ti (6gb) graphic card instead. That card "only" needed 400 W. Then i didnt need to change the power sypply. Then i put in one more 8 gb ram to it. So the specs are: Asus Rog. Clock speed 3ghz, 16 gb ram, 250 gb sdd, KA GTX 1660 Ti graphic card with 6 gb memory. My goal was to get it upgrade so i could play Goat Simulator 3 on it, and yes. It runs it wery well on full settings. A little bit old pc, but it still does the job. It accept 4K settings as well. Nice video David. 🙂

Just noticed Dawid uploads 18:9 video. Nice! Great for the widescreen. The jokes are also funnier on a serious looking display.

Dawid: Let’s try this video card and see what happens Computer: Awhellnaw! (Power supply kills itself)

mesh behind the perspex, is there for EMV reasons, it is a electromagnetic shield

you can replace that psu. they are called flex atx psu. they are used for servers n etc, although the only ones you can get with standard atx pinout (and not using like Dells 12volt pinout), are usually around 500-600watt. its rumoured that enhanced has a 750watt flex atx psu, but it seems impossible to find a legitimate one. so biggest ones you can get are 600 watt.

14:54 I think the psu can still work but you might have to replace the psu fuse which is very risky because of that big capacitor

@8:36 The RAM has the exact same reaction that I did. "Uh NO" (it's right there on the label)

seems like that power supply's protection kicked in and is just one time use. It might have a fuse that could be replaced if you could safely discharge the capacitors to take it apart further and find it but all that trouble isn't worth it anyway.