Crazy how much work went into designing that. Impressively packaged!

@slowlanegamer

Жыл бұрын

It is cool and compact for the time and MSI really does some interesting things that wouldn’t be done otherwise, but essentially this is a laptop yea? 🤔 Just more expensive and with out the screen or portability 😅

@Harry830

Жыл бұрын

@@slowlanegamer well yeah , but i can think that it would be quite difficult to put a mini itx case in that form factor and the desktop grade solution would require more cooling

@joshemminger9022

Жыл бұрын

@@slowlanegamer This was back when the equivalent laptop cpu would have been 2 cores and 4 threads vs the 4 cores and 8 threads this cpu has.

@perry92964

Жыл бұрын

it looks like they were going for a console look

@jamesnguyen7069

Жыл бұрын

copied apple 😂

Apple: "Let's make a high end PC that looks like a garbage can!" MSI: "See that oscillating floor fan in the corner? BOY DO I HAVE AN IDEA"

@inqizzo

Жыл бұрын

Guys, upvote this comment, this needs to be on the top

@legallyfree2955

Жыл бұрын

Every other computer manufacturer: Rectangle brick again? Every other computer manufacturer's accountants: Would doing it different cost more? Every other computer manufacturer: Well, not if we rip off someone elses idea? Every other computer manufacturers legal team: Yeah no, we would usually rip off Apple but they are very litigious Every other computer manufacturer, their accountants and their legal team: So... Rectangular brick it is! Every other computer manufacturer's case design team: Don't want us to do anything? Every other computer manufacturer: Yeah, head down to the scrap yard, find some pieces of colorful plastic and hot glue them to the sides of the cases in an artistic manner Every other computer manufacturer's case design team: Hot glue? Every other computer manufacturer: You're right, far too durable, get some really tiny, really fragile plastic clips, and clip the bits plastic scrap on in a way that they will snap off the first time the user tries to upgrade their ram.

@ursulpolal5949

Жыл бұрын

​​@@inqizzo Upvote? This is youtube not reddit.

@whohan779

11 ай бұрын

@@ursulpolal5949 It better be, otherwise the video would be… well… private.

@vitinhx794

3 ай бұрын

I have an idea to transform a trash can into a very very expensive product - said Apple in 2013

I clicked on this video thinking MSI made a air fryer 💀💀💀

@justin_lee3005

13 сағат бұрын

I was thinking air purifier lol

GPU got hotter because the fan takes feedback off the cpu temp and cpu temp getting lower doesn't trigger the high speed fan It is not the mistake of the thermal paste application 😁

@HansenLaMoose

Жыл бұрын

would this have been done on purpose or is this just a one off mistake possibly?

@omarfouda1994

Жыл бұрын

@@HansenLaMoose there's no mistake here, after repasting both temperatures are ok, also all motherboards' BIOS use CPU temp to control fan speed that's standard, having a single blower fan to pull air cooling both components is intresting but not very effective as it won't account for wierd scenarios of high gpu usage and low cpu usage leading gpu to get hot, if it was my system I would definitely use fan control app to control fan based on gpu temp to fix the issue. In the end if it's your system you take care of yourself (repaste, control fans, undervolt, remove bloat, maybe even removing some panels to help) Always take care of yourself

@CarbonPanther

Жыл бұрын

I wish we could've seen if the GPU was boosting higher as well, usually of course if there's more thermal headroom the GPU also attempts to clock higher which might lead to similar noise levels but also higher performance!

@amnottabs

Жыл бұрын

@@CarbonPanther it was the same (13:48 vs 15:05)

@MandoMTL

Жыл бұрын

That is dumb as all hell, but the easiest method of thermal control.

Wake up babe, Dawid uploaded a new video

@inqizzo

Жыл бұрын

Wake up samuraj, we have a video to watch

@chadlad8359

Жыл бұрын

@@inqizzo 🧕

@PCLISTS

Жыл бұрын

​@@chadlad8359💣

@TheFalseShepphard

Жыл бұрын

Did you forget to take your meds again ?

@MandoMTL

Жыл бұрын

Ghey

Forgetting their many foibles, MSI certainly do make some unique/wacky machine cases

@ACurbo

Жыл бұрын

I’ve had a Trident X for 4 years. Managed to shoehorn a 750W psu and a 3080 into it. Performance and thermals are outstanding in a system that’s smaller than a PS5. PWM broke on it within the first 2 weeks, so it’s noisier than an angry Italian mother in law, but I still love it

@Gatorade69

Жыл бұрын

I have always kind of avoided MSI and chose brands like Asus (lol). I have a MSI built 3070 and It's pretty well built, also have a MSI monitor (though It's only 1080p) but It's a pretty decent monitor (high refresh rate, lots of options, easy to use nub for the menus) The first MSI items I have ever owned and they're good.

@originalityisdead.9513

Жыл бұрын

​@Gatorade69 Asus GPU'S have been the best I've ever owned, they're two expensive though. MSI haven't been on top form for years, their old MSI Lighting GPU'S were the best you could buy. The only 3090 i could get was the MSI Gaming X Trio and its an absolute joke compared to other 3090'S, low boost clock, bad OC, power limited, adjusting the power limit and Voltage makes no difference whatsoever and it also makes an awful racket compared to my Gigabyte 4090 and to make matter worse the temps aren't all that good.

If I sold a PC, I'd at least get my pubes off it first. Shit's embarrassing - even for eBay.

@AnnaDoes

Жыл бұрын

😅

@zepo82

Жыл бұрын

I'm quite sure at this point some people pay extra on Ebay by pube count...each to their own

@First-Name_Last-Name

Жыл бұрын

It's free gift, that could also end up as a gift that keeps on giving

@abnormallynormal8823

Жыл бұрын

You over estimate both the hygiene and the compassion people have for someone they’ve never met , and will never meet.

@vihakurjategija

Жыл бұрын

...why would you have pubes on your PC?

Always amazes me how lazy people are with their Ebay sales. I always make sure everything I sell is wiped spotless and dust free, even for the sales pics. Crazy.

@volvo09

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's just lazy. I haven't sold anything yet, but it would never be covered with pubes and candy...

@demontekdigital1704

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. It's a total lack of respect for both self, and others. If I were selling something I'd clean it well enough to make the buyer question if the product is brand new, or not.

@jabezhane

Жыл бұрын

@@demontekdigital1704 Exactly! You look at all the filthy examples. Clean yours nicely and put it on 25% more than the rest. Sold! 5 minutes of effort for extra £$€

@MandoMTL

Жыл бұрын

People are generally slobs.

@TKIvanov

Жыл бұрын

Saaaame. Most of the time, if im selling something it looks better than 80% of the time I was using it 😂

Wow Carey Holzman, i literally used to watch him back in like 2013 when i was building my first PC

@YuProducciones

Жыл бұрын

the best tutorials EVER, master Yoda, his way of teaching its amazing. huge fan of Carey

@finr0y

9 ай бұрын

I saw the logo and couldn't believe it lol

Props to Cary Holzman... one of the o.g. "screw it.....just film in your kitchen" youtubers

David taught me so much about MSI that it felt like MSI was coming inside of me

@brianj1r144

Жыл бұрын

🙌🙌🙌

@masterswords7202

Жыл бұрын

That... that's so sus beyond regular levels

@THE_CARBON

Жыл бұрын

🤨

@karldavid7794

Жыл бұрын

📸🤨

@emlyndewar

Жыл бұрын

🤔

nooooo not the Vileda glows disappeared. Vileda needs to sponsor our boy to get him some new ones

UPGRADE IT!!! Put a bigger CPU in it, and see if any of the other MXM boards will fit. Will it take a Xeon?

@CarbonPanther

Жыл бұрын

Downgrade it! Put the Alienware GPU's with SLI in it xp

@MandoMTL

Жыл бұрын

There's no way you're getting a Xeon in that contraption.

@dagdamar2000

Жыл бұрын

yes I want to see if this can make Dawid's head explode!!🤣

@CheapSushi

Жыл бұрын

@@MandoMTL You can but there's no interesting or better Xeons for that socket in that era, neither in core count, L4 eDRAM, or multiplier overclockability (like previous V1, V2 and V3). The top of the line is the Xeon E3 1280 v5. Anything else needs a different socket. (LGA 1151). The best CPU is the i7 6700K.

@soulfiregod

11 ай бұрын

​@@CheapSushiDoesn't the i7-7700K also fit in that socket?

R&D costs for this must have been substantial. Certainly one of the more interesting designs.

@Incommensurabilities

Жыл бұрын

Do you think more than any of the gaming laptops MSI makes?

@richardsandson

Жыл бұрын

@@Incommensurabilities Honestly, it would be tough know for sure buddy. However, based on the fact that laptop sales outnumber desktops 2:1, recouping those design costs would be tougher on this little gem. It's a shame more aftermarket case makers don't get a bit more creative these days though.

@gantz4u

11 ай бұрын

you need to go watch a trash can mac tear down. Nothing is impressive besides they figured out how to emulate the trash can apple with even poorer cooling. The magic in the trash can mac is its cooling solution to create that form factor..Also that thing wasnt well received for its minimalist design approach obviously because mac went right back to make square designs. Because more cooler means more better. It sacrifices function for form.

@BenState

2 ай бұрын

@@Incommensurabilities res due to retooling

I will always admire the patience on this kind of teardowns and reassembles

Always thought this case was so neat in spite of the operating temp compromises. I was surprised to see how much can be upgraded here too, you should do a follow up where you add a 7900K and a more recent MXM card!

you know, the sponsor from deepcool really does urge me to say that the AK620 is utterly insane for the price. i've been using it on my 7700X where it's really shining, and i've heard good things about how it deals with the similarly monstrous heat of the high end alder/raptor lake CPUs, too. best value dual-tower on the market right now

@ScavengerFX

Жыл бұрын

I'm using that same cooler on my 5800x3d and my friend's 7800x3d. Such a monster cooler.

@MandoMTL

Жыл бұрын

Thermalright is also great price/performance.

@alexanderunknown8605

Жыл бұрын

AG620 for value ftw!

@sebastianangeles

8 ай бұрын

Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE wants a word with you

it actually performs much better than I expected

Despite the PIA it is to take apart, it is kinda impressive for how old it is and upgradable

@JinghisKhan

Жыл бұрын

Semi-upgradeable. The GPU would be nearly impossible to source, and I REALLY would not want to risk a 7th Gen i9 in there given the passive cooling, but you can add RAM and storage fairly easily.

@GalironRunner

10 ай бұрын

@@JinghisKhan oh mxm cards are easy to find its the compatibility thats an issue just being an mxm or even the correct mxm version doesnt mean it will work. I have a few older alienwares with mxm some for example will not work with any amd cards if it came with intel same with any amd based units and nvidia cards. Now its possible theres a workaround but ive noticed mxm systems often have some limitations on card usage plus the cost. a 10series or higher is often at or more then a current desktop version cost wise ie a 1070 may cost 300+ and may not even work.

@BenState

2 ай бұрын

@@GalironRunner bios whitelisting

Dave is a legend for showing us this stuff, absolutely love it, dropped everything i was doing to check this one

Ahhh yes! Thank you for the frametime graph. It helps us see frame drops and hitches that we don't get to experience first hand.

@Jwellsuhhuh

Жыл бұрын

Doesn’t the frame rate graph show the exact same thing but inverted

Wow! I saw Carey's logo and briefly thought there might be a collaboration. I've subbed to his channel for YEARS and he has helped me rescue many PC's from the e-waste bin, especially during COVID.

@hippolyte09

Жыл бұрын

Carey's channel is what got me confident enough into building my own PCs (and now friends PCs). The detailing of his buil videos/streams is seecond to none.

@finr0y

9 ай бұрын

I was so hyped for a second lmao

That was a lot of work! thanks Dawid!

Love your channel man, great content!

hey from morroco I wanted to express my sincerest gratitude for the amazing content you consistently share on your KZread channel. Your videos have been a constant source of inspiration and entertainment for me, and I truly appreciate the effort and passion you put into each one. Thank you for creating such valuable and enjoyable content

I think MSI is like the Lancia of computers makers. You have to give it to them for trying.

@satsumagt5284

Жыл бұрын

I Think Lancia used to be very good, no?

@Trusteft

Жыл бұрын

@@satsumagt5284 No one ever bought a Lancia for the build quality. They bought them for the fun ride and/or the looks.

@Gatorade69

Жыл бұрын

Oh man my grandpa used to have a Lancia Beta Montecarlo Spider. I always wanted the car but it needed a lot of work and parts were practically impossible to find here in the US and the car is also incredibly rare here too. The price for parts was also incredibly absurd. It was always under a cover and people would always ask "Is that a DeLorean ?" Or "Is that a Ferrari !?" I think it was actually designed by Pinnifarina. Even if I had got the car I didn't fit in it at all at 6'5 height.

@alexanderunknown8605

Жыл бұрын

Lmfao

@Valigarmanda

5 ай бұрын

This implies they had a badass range of winning cases MSI 037

that was one of the most interesting all-in-one cases I've ever seen... I LOVE that you show us these strange, one-off cases (from MSI lol) that were so unique... THANK YOU!!!! :)

@Nobe_Oddy

3 ай бұрын

APPLE'S design is WAY BETTER!!! lol

This is such a underrated channel, keep making great videos Dawid!

Many companies tried these vertical ITX designs back in the 10-series. Somehow only Corsair ONE got refreshed and updated year after year while all the other projects did not survive.

Dam that looked like a nightmare to breakdown

Worth it! Thanks Dawid!

great video! I can’t wait for the upgrade video with the splosion cam!

Apple trashcan counterfit?

@eee1200

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@laur6405

Жыл бұрын

Nice,i guess anything that has the physical shape of an apple product is considered to be counterfit. I guess all laptops are counterfit too

@dickdickling9389

Жыл бұрын

@@laur6405 Brother you reedin too deep

@MrTefe

Жыл бұрын

every apple product is a trashcan

@nepp-

Жыл бұрын

@@MrTefe true

The fact that it's passive cooling used in it means this system is IMPRESSIVE

@MandoMTL

Жыл бұрын

It's technically not passive at all.

@TKIvanov

Жыл бұрын

Its not passive tho. Technically the coolers are but the system isn't.

Been watching Carey for ages (his cloning vids are the best), keep up the mutual bumps

Big respect to the KZreadr supporting the cause ❤️

Ever since I watched your Aegis 3 video I have had a real urge to buy one. I know it's stupid but for some reason I just love that pc!

Dawid and horrid prebuilts, a special love story

If you assign keybinds to "Benchmark" in the Afterburner settings, you can start/stop a benchmark whenever you like and when enabled, it shows you fps for 1%, 0.1% and so on. May be handy.

Big fan Dawid. Keep up the entertaining content.

The level of disappointment when Vileda didn't make their appearance today :(

would've been neat to see you try those laptop gpus from the alienware build from before

I love Carey Holzmans youtube tech videos.

I’ll admit, the engineering on this system is genuinely interesting and fascinating. I would have loved one of these back in the day.

I would love to see an upgrade video like the Alienware laptop

@jeremybeaverson7167

Жыл бұрын

I want to see him put that 1060 in that Alienware

@AS1CKPANTHER

Жыл бұрын

@@jeremybeaverson7167 or pick up a second 1060 mxm card and redo the Alienware

@jeremybeaverson7167

Жыл бұрын

@@AS1CKPANTHER we need to know if one works 1st because that’s like a 500$ gpu for some ungodly reason

@jeremybeaverson7167

Жыл бұрын

@@AS1CKPANTHER plus I doubt that the 1060 mobile works in sli as the desktop didn’t that was a 70 plus feature for Pascal

Amazing with the 4 x laptop ram slots design! It has to cost a fortune to buy it.

@mrducky179

Жыл бұрын

@Nobody Important proprietary ram is a thing? god help us

@hman6159

Жыл бұрын

@@mrducky179 at least it’s not soldered down

@mrducky179

Жыл бұрын

@@hman6159 tbh soldered memory doesnt make sense beyond slim laptops

@alexanderunknown8605

Жыл бұрын

Uppabale ram is always better lol..

I can feel your pain about Vileda.....R.I.P.,where ever they may be :)

Another great video. Thanks for the content

Ahhh MSI...I wouldn't be surprised if they *actually* summoned a Kraken accidentally whilst doing R&D

@demontekdigital1704

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but then they'd have to pay Razer royalties, LOL.

Keep up the amazing work ❤

Very cool PC design, nice for usage of different GPUs slots.

Wow that is remarkably advanced packaging, I was ready to rip on this thing but... you can't help but be quite impressed.

Phhhh, at least the apple trash can could actually hold trash On the plus side, this comes with trash already included inside

Dawidddd, can you put the gtx 1060 to the alienware laptop to see if it works???? 😗

No way, THE Carey Holzman?? I got the confidence to build my first system in 2014 following one of his videos

ohhh man... you know its a good day wen dawid uploads a new video doing random stuff like this

I'm surprised that you didn't overclock the GPU for that extra 2FPS of POWAH or even attempt to overclock the CPU

How Msi is more alienwary, than Aleinware ?

@Gatorade69

Жыл бұрын

Because Alienware was purchased by Dell. That was when they started going downhill. They used to be pretty cool/unique.

2:44 i love how he says "down here next to the pube" like its a perfectly ordinary feature. XD

Great stuff! I can't believe MSI done it again. So much potential, if only it was a standard micro atx board and normal sff power supply, so you know... We could still use the case today. Also, I liked your sponsor spot, but it would be nice if you could of gave some notes on fan noise from at least 1 cooler.

This system has piqued my interest. I wonder if they were to make the same system today, what cpu and gpu would they use?

@little_fluffy_clouds

4 ай бұрын

An AMD Ryzen laptop 7xxx CPU and a low profile RTX 4060 would be ideal for cool temps and excellent performance. Minisforum already makes an ITX motherboard with an AMD Ryzen laptop grade CPU built-in. It provides excellent performance per watt and runs cool.

OMG SHAGGY ITS BEEN SO LONG, Lets Go!

This is a very good channel, love your humour :D

Back sweating anxiety just watching you break it down and build it back up again!

is swear dawid is cursed into breaking every msi product he opens up =))) this is the 2 or 3rd pc from msi i see him break in some way =)))

MSI systems were weird back in the day

I can't remember if I never noticed that you didn't have a frametime graph before or if I just thought you preferred it without the graph. In any case, it's very useful as an indicator of consistency and I highly recommend it. Side note: Many games seem to have bad FPS caps, I think...? However, it seems you can use RivaTuner Statistic Server to force a limit that's perfectly smooth.

I was so excited for the Vileda comeback. I was brought to tears at the info they were lost

This early? It's a crime

Love the Video, awsome content

As usual funny as hell =) I want to see some Anna teardown action of a ridiculously assembled prebuilt!

Slowly but surely this is turning from Dawid does tech stuff to dawid does dumb stuff and I like it

ive also been using the deep cool 620 for 6 plus months its a bit loud but with some tuning its a near perfect air cooler

I love that thing. If they made it 3 inches taller and added a 2nd giant jet fan on the bottom to help suck air in, it would be perfection. Same air flow at half the noise or a massive flow keeping all parts cool under any load.

It might be that the GPU temps were higher after the repaste because the clocks were higher, from the limited few seconds it was on screen i never saw it dip down from 17xx MHz

when you are randomly refreshing your subscribes and the newrly fav. youtuber upload . nice one.

I remember that! It really came out around the time the trashcan came out. I really liked it

Dawid wailing like an old man while opening up a pc is so me lol, i get so terrified if I put a bit too much force into opening and then there's a loud sound.

...Absolutely LOVE yer videos Dawid...ye always make me laugh dude! 🤣😂

up early on a Saturday for once and I made it in the first hour to a dawid upload HELL YEAH 💥💥

Seeing the Deep Cool sponsorship read reminds me, i need to add a couple more fans to my tower.

Just watching till you sponsor deep cool coolers that I’m getting today. Got the AK500

Honestly I had to use Gelid Extreme on GPUs to get close to stock temps in the past. The issue I'd usually have with this is it would maintain those temps for about a year before slowly climbing again. I'm tempted to try something else eventually.

Would love to see this system absolutely maxed out!

i like how under the shell is just 13.7 little metal brackets to hold everything

Looks like a jousting Knights armour helmet thingy. Got to say I like these little powerhouses. They're not for me, my use, but I do love em

"And down next here next to the pube...." that had me cracking up

I would personally like to see you max out this system in the next video for comparisons

“Next to the pube”. This is the best line used in a tech review. EVER!

Now time to upgrade it to the maxxxxxx!

I'd clean forgotten about Cary Holzman somehow 🤣; thanks for the reminder!

I've had a Leopard laptop from MSI, definitely not disappointed 3 years in

I like to see weird case design like that I wouldn’t want to take it apart but it’s interesting.

Its a good day when Dawid uploads

I would love to see you find a way to upgrade this one

you should try arctic mx-6 paste for direct die as its much suited for it. Thin - low viscosity thermal paste suffer from pump out which causes high gpu temp.

Interesting how different it is to the Mac Pro but also similar, The mac also has a Triangle based heating setup and a singular fan. But one heatsink shared between the gpu's and cpu

If you connect a vacuum cleaner to the top of the case, maybe you could increase the cooling?

That is a good question

Carey is good people love his channel