"It's put together like a tesla" holy words 🗿

@AnnaDoes

Жыл бұрын

hahaha such a burn

@slowlanegamer

Жыл бұрын

@@AnnaDoes I can’t tell if MSI just had some fetish for the mean words Dawid throws around or if they just assumed he wouldn’t look at the system while testing it lol 😂… I mean maybe it’s the “all press is good press” system. Or they just don’t actually watch the other videos and where like “hey look this guy has a channel and following where he reviews our pre-built systems let’s send him one

@cv990a4

Жыл бұрын

Dawid Twitter account mysteriously stops working...

@zappalavigna

Жыл бұрын

@@cv990a4 lol

@zappalavigna

Жыл бұрын

Why does it say: 4 answered from dawiddoestechstuff and others but I don't see his answere? Do you see it?

Let's enjoy the very last video MSI will ever send a pc for 😂

@slowlanegamer

Жыл бұрын

I mean they clearly are a glutton for punishment. It’s not like Dawid said nice things about the other MSI pre-guilts lmao 🤣

@SB-pf5rc

Жыл бұрын

tbh i thought this was a fairly positive review. that case is... polarizing. i bet there's people who see it as a draw and don't mind the build quality. the only real hit was xmp support (wtf?) and that cheapo mobo/ram, and dawid didn't hammer them for that.

@slowlanegamer

Жыл бұрын

@@SB-pf5rc I mean just showing the cheap ram and motherboard and mentioning that the ram looks like it was pulled from a trash bin is enough lol the cheap ram is crazy like good ram only costs like $130 for Corsair vengeance 5600mhz ddr5 🤷🏼‍♂️ or like $75 for ddr4 …. So that and the motherboard seem a little unacceptable to me But like spending this amount of money on a PC from a company that makes their own motherboards and getting something that looks cheaper than a normal MSI mag Tomahawk z690 or z590 is crazy. Like you could spend $150 on sale to $250 and get a nicer motherboard with more options than this one I believe. Idk how to feel really but being “top of the line” and having the 4090 in there and high tier CPU doesn’t really make up for everything else right?

@slowlanegamer

Жыл бұрын

@@SB-pf5rc I know it’s irrelevant but you could build this system with better quality components from Best Buy for like $3200. So they are charging $1800 profit and skimping on the motherboard and ram? 😰

@Ficii1

Жыл бұрын

@@slowlanegamer You can get a 64GB DDR5 kit for $130?

The bios is in a default basic mode. There is a video on KZread that shows you how to enter the advanced settings mode in the MSI bios. I had to do it with my Stealth GS77.

The "Silent Storm Cooling" thing is actually one of the good things a pre-built can offer you, it is known purpose build air guides can be advantageous.

This is why i love Dawid. Holds nothing back even when he is sent a product to look at. Can always expect a non bias no BS review.

@zacharykoppinger9835

Жыл бұрын

Brutality!!

@fakename2966

Жыл бұрын

we really know he was not told what to say

@insurgentlowcash7564

Жыл бұрын

@@fakename2966 That motherboard!!! For 5k lol Yeah I agree, just as bad as a dell mb, basically 5k for a 4090, psu, CPU and ssd. Sad.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

Жыл бұрын

I try and show things as they are, besides it makes for better jokes. 😂

@DawidDoesTechStuff

Жыл бұрын

@@cerberusloyalist5038 That was a sponsored video though, which I made clear at the start. If it helps, I only accept sponsorships for products that I already think is good. For example, MSI originally wanted this to be a sponsored video. However from the get go, I told them no, because I wasn’t confident the PC would be good. I bet the stuff carefully. 😊

Thank you for not pulling your punches. So many reviewers start becoming "kinder" as they grow their channel and get real big sponsors and free stuff. Never change my man.

@jasonpage5282

Жыл бұрын

This guy is real

@gkjester

Жыл бұрын

Lenode would sponsor a spineless shill for the man.

@thekoreyway9272

Жыл бұрын

It’s a review for a reason

@w.d.gaster1550

Жыл бұрын

Id change my reviews too if I was getting free shit 💀

@nicknz100

Жыл бұрын

You'd think companies would appreciate a review like this as they'll know what they can improve on.

I'd love to see the temps on the motherboards vrms seeing as they had no heatsinks on them at all and they're handling a 13900k.

@shaneeslick

Жыл бұрын

Yeah & no need to go to the lengths of the HUB or GN Steve for their specific VRM Test Reviews, just the basic Harware Monitor stats would be good here.

@ge2719

4 ай бұрын

i noticed the same. it seems to be msi's cheapest z790 "gaming" board, with everything stripped off of it... how the heck can they get away with that? they even took the m.2 slot heatsinks away.

4K gaming on a 1440p monitor, impressive.

@jonboy602

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't figure that one out either.

@makuIa

Жыл бұрын

@@jonboy602 the screens max resolution will always be how it’s displayed no matter what you set the resolution at. so basically your GPU can struggle it’s heart out sending 8K graphics to your monitor but your monitor will only display its max resolution like in this case was 1440p so it’s basically tiring out your graphics card for nothing lol

@TeamGun

Жыл бұрын

@@jonboy602 You fools never hear of Super Sampling? Stick to consoles plebs.

@hahamanin

Ай бұрын

@@TeamGun what?🤣

@R3AL-AIM

Ай бұрын

@@makuIa That's not how it works with SS lol

MSI: Here Dawid, have this $5000 system and say some nice things :> Dawid: This is not the face of mercy.

@jasonharris8588

Жыл бұрын

Who else read that in Dawid's voice? :)

@DawidDoesTechStuff

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonharris8588 I also did. 😅

@thealien_ali3382

Жыл бұрын

​@@DawidDoesTechStuffI love you

@D4RKV3NOM

Жыл бұрын

​@@thealien_ali3382love is a strong word, save it for a love interest, unless Dawid is your love interest, then pardon me xD

@Touma134

5 ай бұрын

He's got a very friendly mug it's easy to make that mistake.

Nothing screams class like Piano Black Plastic :D

@orenraveh1162

Жыл бұрын

:D

@naseebsayed2394

Жыл бұрын

Anna Does?

@AnnaDoes

Жыл бұрын

@@naseebsayed2394 haha soon?

I don't think quality of plastic or vents being too large would have ever entered my mind once lol. And I don't think I needed it to. I'm glad everything worked out of the box for you man! That's definitely something rare

You are easily one of my favorite channels and my goodness you bring pure joy each and every time.

I hope whoever in MSI marketing decided to send you a $5000 system does well in his next avenue of employment.

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

you know it's going to be a great video when Dawid says there no way it can end other then badly🤣🤣🤣

@syncmonism

Жыл бұрын

As bad as it was, it's sad that it's still better than a lot of other pre-builts. The most serious issues were just that the case is very cheap, dirty looking, and with a goofy looking design, and also that XMP wasn't enabled. At least the cooling and ventilation actually did work perfectly well. The bios also sucked, but at least it works and does the basic things it's supposed to do.

@pschroeter1

Жыл бұрын

@@syncmonism Make no mistake, I would brtu gladly accept it if they sent be one. I'm just not able to tell if it was worth the price.

@apotato5563

Жыл бұрын

​​@@syncmonism the vrm is terrible. It doesn't have any heatsinks and only has ~8+2 phases? I'm not confident in that it can suply over 160W constant and for a $5000 prebuild that's just terrible. You'll either experience vrm throttling or a power limit. In both cases it will decrease performance. And even if it isn't it is probably running in the 100c range and most capacitors are only rated for 5000Hours @105c. And someone who buys a 5000 prebuild probably games all day not 2 hours a day. It won't last long...

@honeybadger6275

10 ай бұрын

@@apotato5563 This is why I will never buy a prebuilt, they always skimp on the motherboard, power supply, case, etc.

It's like a 12 min video but it feels like 5 I am just so entertained that every time a video of him ends I'm just sad that it's over, keep up the good work!

@shaneeslick

Жыл бұрын

Yep & it's always a better day i it is a DawidDTS video day😁

@DawidDoesTechStuff

Жыл бұрын

That’s great to hear! I’m glad you don’t find them hard to sit through. 👍

@DawidDoesTechStuff

Жыл бұрын

@@shaneeslick Thanks Shane! 😃

@shaneeslick

Жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff I suffer Clinical Depression & Severe Anxiety & your videos are Awesome at Distracting my brain from that, making me laugh & giving me happy thoughts, so Big Thank You to you Anna & Neko🧔👱‍♀😺😁

@DawidDoesTechStuff

Жыл бұрын

@@shaneeslick I’m glad they offer you a distraction and I wish you all the best for what you are going through. 😊

I don't know if it's like their laptops. But maybe there is a key combo you have to press, to unlock secret a bios menu to allow you to really tweak the settings just like the ge66 laptop I had.

@yepyep266

Жыл бұрын

Tell me the secret. I have this laptop

Best and honest review I can find on youtube! Love it.

That was brave of MSI to send that over, not sure they will be doing it again any time soon! Maybe you could consult for them on what makes a half decent case!

@DawidDoesTechStuff

Жыл бұрын

Haha!! Yeah I’m curious to see how this plays out.

@Whiterin

Жыл бұрын

That's what's so weird about it. MSI knows how to make cases! They have decent low cost cases. I use one personally. Why they'd use this junk instead of one of the cases they already produce is beyond me.

@mikeymaiku

Жыл бұрын

@@Whiterin because they have a pretty good track record of selling odd super expensive pcs

I will second other comments made here: underneath the razor-sharp wit and hilarity, Dawid actually gives real and honest reviews and feedback like almost no one else on KZread does. Thank you for that Also, 16°C ambient?? Dawid, use some of that sweet Linode money to turn the heat up!

@shaneeslick

Жыл бұрын

That 16°C Ambient is why Dawid is literally the Coollest TechTuber 🥶😂

@apotato5563

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry the 4090 is a heater

An HDD in a ~$5000 machine? WTF MSI? I love how Dawid just goes full tilt through the entire review!

@joe--cool

Жыл бұрын

12TB SSD = $4000 12TB HDD = $200 makes sense to me.

@honeybadger6275

10 ай бұрын

@@joe--cool lol i spent like 800 dollars on 2 4tb samsung ssds about a year and a half ago quit lying

@joe--cool

10 ай бұрын

@@honeybadger6275 2 SSDs with 4 TB equal 1 SSD with 12 TB. And they cost the same. Fascincating. That's news to me. Heed your advice and stop lying.

@esotericjahanism5251

9 ай бұрын

getting an HDD even in this day and age still make sense and even on a higher end enthusiast build, as long as you have an Nvme for your OS and games an HDD is still a great investment for capacities above 4TB and especially if its just for media files, since an modern HDD will still have fast enough read and write speeds for video files.

Every Ventus card I've ever had my hands on has sounded like a tornado, fighting a truckload of angry cats.

As soon as I saw the rear motherboard i/o, I knew it would be painful. No xmp in ANY system nowadays, let alone a $5k gaming one, proves that someone needs to be fired. Good job keeping the reviews real and entertaining

@db8989

Жыл бұрын

At least three people are probably looking for a new job soon. The person who "configured" this joke, the manager who signed off on selling it like that and the one who thought sending it out for an independent review was a good idea 😂

@jesses1589

Жыл бұрын

I wonder who made the decision to send him that PC with a mechanical drive in it....Its like having a drag racing car with spare tyre donuts on the back wheels.

Just as an info, this MSI BIOS has two variants to config, a base and an expert view. You need the expert view to config XMP. Its hiding in the base view.

@SB-pf5rc

Жыл бұрын

thanks for the info! ...'expert' to run the ram at its rated speed tho-- 🤣

@mithikx

Жыл бұрын

Normally on MSI BIOS there's a thing on the top of the UI that tells you to press F7 to enter Advanced Mode or Expert Mode or whatever they call it, but it's not even there when Dawid enters the BIOS. I don't think that's a retail motherboard MSI slapped into that computer, probably some cut-down one they use just for prebuilds.

@stephen1r2

Жыл бұрын

@@mithikx Yup; the board has no power heatsinks at all and looks like the CSM, or Corporate Stable--office PC stuff. Normally only allows base JEDEC ram speeds and locked multipliers so a K-sku runs like non-K

@guczy

Жыл бұрын

@@mithikx And even in EZ mode (thats how it's called in the BIOS) there is a yuge XMP button on top.

@bdub1682

Жыл бұрын

@@mithikx yeah, the board identifies as the z790 trident x2, which means its custom for that prebuilt... and also interesting that its a z790 with no xmp, lol

The last time I had to use a screwdriver to open one of my PCs was in 1998. What a neat feature on this 5000 $ PC from 2023. That's just adorable, MSI.

@db8989

Жыл бұрын

Haha, very good point! At least use thumb screws, MSI. Come on, even low end cases have these nowadays.

Great video love this MSI pre-built

I have to appreciate MSI being brave enough for sending a 5000-dollar costing machine to a brutally (and comically) honest reviewer that just does what's expected: unbiased opinions. The thing is, how could MSI really not know this would happen?

@ResidentWeevil2077

Жыл бұрын

After watching Gamers Nexus review one of MSI's pre-builts, I'm mildly amused they sent a similar quality pre-built to Dawid. They must have a humiliation kink 😂😂

@Macheako

Жыл бұрын

take away the 4090......and that thing HONESTLY looks like it's worth.....maybe $700 - $900 bucks? 🤣🤣🤣

@sankaplays3098

Жыл бұрын

@@Macheako Hell no, I wouldnt even pay 500 for it. I would rather have a super basic case than this weird pretend modern looking thing with a touchscreen that has the functionality of screens Ive had for a pentium 4 that went in to the CD tray haha.

It’s always a good day when Dawid uploads a video. This was also a system I’d wanted to see a review of, given MSI’s track record on this channel plus the design choices MSI made and it’s worse than I thought it would be, and I thought it was going to be pretty bad.

I was very surprised with the thermals you were at after playing your game for 45 mins. Would have loved to see more bios options for the memory and some more overclocking options. Maybe it could be added in a bios update in the future?

Thanks realy help till now

To be honest the springy plastic for the radiator mounting is a good thing. It soaks up vibration from the ventilators which is good for noise.

@jayb1rd

Жыл бұрын

Rubber grommets at the mounting points would allow for a steal bracket and provide the same noise deadening.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

Жыл бұрын

That’s an interesting point, but as Jason said, rubber grommets should do the same thing. To be fair, the plastic on the side panels would give in way before the radiator mount becomes a problem.

@Njazmo

Жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff you can always print a new one if you're feeling nerdy, but on a 5000$ system, I prefer billet aluminum CNC-machined parts, not that plastic crap. But hey, quantity over quality. 😂

the temps where impressive for a prebuild big brand. hopefully some fan rpm headroom left over, all stock fan profiles are twice what they should be. biggest let down is all that rgb and screen you pay for, and get annoyed with if it breaks or do not work right, especially after a few years. then there comes the maintenance, you will have a bad time dust cleaning this thing, radiators and no fan filter within this case odd airflow. its going to be really hot after a year and a hell to clean out. but if you notice these things like i do, you build pc's yourself and save some money and do it right.

@stephen1r2

Жыл бұрын

The CSM motherboard used here has no mosfet heatsinks so it will need a bit higher airflow

@sudd3660

Жыл бұрын

@@stephen1r2 you are right, i would recommend people doing under-volting on cpu and Graphics card, or some kind of power limits. 5% performance loss with 30% less power usage is a win in my book.

I don't think any other techtuber has such a great sense of humor. I'm hooked to your videos as the content is good and the humor makes it awesome. Keep up the good work!

After reading the spec sheet for these things, it turns out Dawid went easy on them.

@db8989

Жыл бұрын

True!

Imagine buying a 5,000 system without a glass side to you can see the 4090

@xmateinc

Жыл бұрын

I got my 4090 on full display in my corsair 680x

I think MSI products usually feels cheap. It's just their trend. But i'm kinda disappointed that they didn't use the 4090 Suprim X for this one. Also, check the HP Envy Desktop series. It is a office computer with gamer internals and no plastic bullshit externally

@Zebra_Paw

Жыл бұрын

HP motherboards are getting more and more terrible!

What i love the most is that... this is the one they chose to send you. Like they had the opportunity to send you a perfect build but then this shows up.

@miaomiaochan

6 ай бұрын

Sad to say, they probably thought this was perfect...

Dawid, your ambient room temperature is so low! Good job you had that behemoth of a system to bring it up a little

Thank you for your brutal honesty. Keeping it real. Respect.

It seems like the motherboard VRMs really bad or the power is limited, the CPU only boost to 4GHz in gaming which should be more around 5.5GHz.

@steph_on_yt

Жыл бұрын

I think Afterburner was just reading the E-core frequency. They only go up to 4.3GHz stock.

Crazy to see how the videos have only gotten better over the last two years or so since I found the channel

12:13 I almost spat out my coffee, good job on that line!

Always nice to see obvious cost cutting on a $5000 dollar system where there should be none.

@honeybadger6275

10 ай бұрын

Yeah that case is insulting, as is the motherboard, ram, and probably most insulting is the fact that they're including a hard drive in a 5 thousand dollar computer. My current pc cost less to build and it has 9 tb of ssd storage, which is a big reason why it cost as much as it did. (if you're wondering why its because bad internet so i dont have the luxury of reinstalling games on a whim and hdd are too slow for games these days)

@herbertwalter8693

7 ай бұрын

if you wanna spend 5k you can get almost anything lol who (uneducated people aside) would buy this?

The CPU was only showing 3.9 to 4.1ghz most of the time while gaming, which is a little strange, and might help explain how the CPU is staying relatively cool

@Ryan-re1rs

Жыл бұрын

The motherboard is power limiting the cpu because it's junk.

@Zebra_Paw

Жыл бұрын

Also the GPU was a huge bottleneck so it was never fully utilized, not even close. I’d have tried 1080P Medium

@Zebra_Paw

Жыл бұрын

@@Ryan-re1rs yeah probably too!

@RoseFBN

Жыл бұрын

@@Zebra_Paw theres no way a 4090 is bottlenecking that system, its definately the motherboard

@jaredchampagne2752

Жыл бұрын

@@Zebra_Paw did you just say that a 4090 was a “bottleneck”??? You can’t be serious...the most powerful GPU money can buy right now isnt bottlenecking anything broski.

That silent cool thing is what is known as a shroud. Obviously or maybe not obviously, it helps funnel air and is used in automotive applications for things like radiators (go figure). Many times running your car without the shroud will create cooling issues. They work very very well.

always love your videos.

Thank you so much for your fair and honest reviews...MSI might not LOL. You and Gamers Nexus are the only channels that I believe the reviews any more.

@shaneeslick

Жыл бұрын

HUB are Awesome too as they pull no punches either, Steve & Tim just lay it out straight as the results show

@db8989

Жыл бұрын

I agree, HW Unboxed is also very recommendable 👍 LTT and Jay have become a bit hit and miss imho.

Gotta give MSI where credit is due, their package and presentation standards are superb. 👌

Love how Dawid tells MSI at the end of the video thank you, when in the previous sentence he was dumping all over the PC's build quality and plastic materials. 😂

Nasty piano black and skew whiff trim? That’s a Vauxhall/Opel Insignia you’ve got there.

I wonder if putting two 120mm fans at the front will make much of a difference. Specifically, I guess, for the ram and vrm

Another wonderfully enjoyable video; thanks Dawid. My only question really is why the cpu appeared locked at around 4ghz?

@carl4889

Жыл бұрын

I'd imagine they locked down the CPU hard so it didn't immediately melt its way down to the earth's core. Probably a good thing for games given the bottleneck would be elsewhere. You'd be miffed if you bought the system for productivity work, though.

@shaneeslick

Жыл бұрын

Nice pick up, I missed that & it would be interesting to understand why it is only Boosting around 4-4.2GHZ as the BIOS says CPU 5.5 GHz at 11.21

@steph_on_yt

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure that Afterburner is just reading the E-core frequencies. They never went above 4.3GHz, which lines up with stock E-core clocks. A 13900K wouldn't be pulling over 125W with such low frequencies on the P-cores.

This is what I imagine a first-generation Super-Playstation 3 server would look like: glossy piano black plastic, weird mismatched geometry, panels popping out and fingerprints. Big mid-2000's Sony energy coming from this. Which...there are probably people out there who really like that! It's just missing the Spiderman font. (On a side note, I have the 4K counterpart to that monitor, MPG321UR-QD. Contrast is definitely not amazing and HDR is kind of an afterthought, but the color accuracy is shockingly capable.)

I just love how brutally honest you are. I wonder if MSI is now regretting that.

"MSI took some of the most powerful hardware in the world and stuffed it in to a case that looks like this.... And I can just not see a way in which that does not end terribly". You made me piss my pants in 41 seconds 🤣

New David Video YEEEESSS!

That's more money than I would ever / have ever spent on a computer system. Yet my builds have run 3-D CAD software back when I was working for a living, so I must have been doing something right, grin. Thanks for showing / telling how things really are.

looks like it was pulled right out of the original Bladerunner. That 80s retrofuturism.

$5000 and it comes with a HDD? What... the actual... fuck... Can't wait to find out what else they messed up. edit: wow, they actually fucked up in their own BIOS? That's a new low...

@stephen1r2

Жыл бұрын

It's fairly common for prebuilts to have a 500-ish ssd boot drive and a 4-ish (or more?) HDD for extra storage (If you target your DL, and Video folders manually to use it) The other issue stems from the CSM level board with no mosfet heatsinking

@drizzle8309

Жыл бұрын

I'm aware it's probably booting off an m.2, since the board has 3 slots. Common or not, when we're talking $5000, I'd expect all SSDs. Especially if it's a gaming PC. Also, the listing he shows at 12:05 actually only has a 2TB ssd (which is consistent with MSI's website). Both 13700k versions of this pc come with both a 1TB m.2 and a 1TB HDD, though, so I'm really not sure what they did here. But it doesn't bode well for it being a 4TB drive... Speaking of, I haven't actually seen any prebuilts with 4TB drives. That's actually pretty cool if that's true. Not sure how the lack of a mosfet heatsink relates to ram speeds? Do they need extra cooling for higher speeds? Regardless, it's their board, so it's a fuck-up either way. edit: well... the site says the 13900kf one comes with a 750W PSU, while both 13700kf versions have an 850W PSU, sooo I'm not sure we can trust that information. Also says the 13900 has an extra usb port, the "Power Efficiency Rating" of both 13700s is "ATX", the motherboard is a Z790... not the chipset, the motherboard. Like... which one?! Y'all got like 5 of em. The AIO is described as "liquid cooling" and while all three come with Windows 11 Home, they recommend Windows 11 Pro for businesses... Who's buying a 13900k x 4090 Pc for their receptionist?! And then half the marked specs, which is supposed to indicate differences, are just exactly the same. Man, how hard is it to keep track of 3 PC configurations... Grab one off the assembly line and check. Takes like 10 mins. That spec-sheet is a clusterfuck. How are these multi million dollar companies so incompetent?! It's cause they don't care, I know...

Wow, that mobo I/O is unforgivable... My shitty prebuilt from 6 years ago has better I/O.

Yea, They Crazy for this one.

Actually some decent engineering here. Never get the slabs of plastic all these pre builds insist on slapping onto the outside, but I like some of the stuff they did inside…

@honeybadger6275

10 ай бұрын

Its a waste of engineering to try to keep using old tooling for the 90s era chassis. Especially insulting given msi makes standard atx cases that are actually of decent to good quality and given they are charging 5k for this abomination they really should have just used one of those cases.

$5000 and the case is almost all cheap plastic like some $40 cases is a shame :D At least the temperature was better than expected. 🙂

I figured it out. the build they were going for is a strange fusion of smart fridge/PS5 (at least in terms of aesthetics) =D

I have had that monitor for over a month now and my god is it amazing

For a 5000$ PC I would at least have expected them to include some front panel fans, for which there seems to be more than enough room

$5000 for a pre built it better be insane

@honeybadger6275

10 ай бұрын

Insanely bad case, ram, psu, and motherboard! Oh, and a hard drive. If I spent 5g on a computer and it came with a hard drive it would get sent back.

I absolutely love these gimmick prebuilts! An HDD and NO vrm cooling for over $5000 (lol)

About that MSI bios, my motherboard (MSI MAG Tomahawk Wifi Z590) has similar one. You need change it from "easy mode" to the other one. There are all the settings, including RAM Speed. I think you change it by clicking F5

4:28 For such an expensive rig, I hope 12VHPWR connector on the RTX4090 doesn't melt under long gaming sessions. It is recommended that bends in the cables don't occur within 35mm of the connector to prevent the connector from melting.

'its put together like a tesla" LOL

You'd expect a 5000$ PC, expecially from MSI to be build with reasonable materials. I wouldn't buy it for 2500$...

Good video. Thanks

Those temps were pretty good for the roasting you gave it

MSI is known for making weird, unique cases!

As much as I love Dawid, it's is insane that he still chooses to bench GTA V on a 13900KF and 4090 based system. GTA V is essentially a geriatric patient at this point.

@vipvip-tf9rw

Жыл бұрын

gta is that old game where physics is bound to fps

@xmateinc

Жыл бұрын

And doesn’t like to run over 140 fps. GTA IV is even worse!

I dearly wish this were its own case because water cooling built in this case would looks sick like make it a lot bigger and make it a full tower and replace the black plastic on one side with all round the Glass

1:39 challenge accepted, I once watched a UPS driver throw a 65in OLED over some ones fence before.

This One Is The Best Pre Built From Msi I Have Seen

Your videos are awesome.

Thanks

great video!

One word for this review! BRUTAL

Would love to see the VRM temps on that MoBo, really does not look like something that should be housing a CPU that powerful - even if it is running at stock speeds. Also gets me wondering why they paired a 13900kf with a MoBo without overclocking capabilities - seems like they were really trying to justify the entry fee with certain hardware choices while simultaneously cutting corners with others (MoBo / RAM) / Case .

I love it, I always wondered what happen to Stewie when he grew up.

"The Plastic Fantastic" is one of the best tag lines I think I have ever heard!!!!

That motherboard could use some alu or copper heatsink attached to the VRM. The 13900KF can draw a lot of power, which could potentially cause problems for the motherboard. The case really should be made better, but we can't expect too much from prebuild OEMs that aren't proper case makers.

As someone who works on computer retail , here is my tierlist of Brands that put the most bloatware on their PC/Laptop 1.Acer - UserControlApp,Acer Jumpstart , so many Acer Apps that mines user data, McAfee , Firefox,Dropbox 2. HP , Dell , Lenovo, Asus, MSI , Gigabyte (all they have in common is that they either have McAfee + Their User Control Center)

@franklidgad

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As someone who works in retail what is the best gaming desktop that you would recommend over this MSI POS?? (with the same specs) I'm not concerned about bloatware as one can easily (and should) reinstall the OS so you know what is being installed.

I only ever bought one pre build pc and it was an Omen 870 something I think it was. Wasn't a real super high end thing but it was relatively cheap with an 8g amd gpu 16gb ram and i7 cpu. Only thing I was unhappy about was the small 256g ssd but other than that it was a fantastic machine. So if I would ever buy another pre build I'd definately go for an Omen again.

That case flex more than my back after working god damn

I had a trident with a 10th gen i7 and a 2070 super. It was super powerful and quiet for a desktop pc. I liked it better than a laptop.

HOLY #$%@#$%@ ! at 4:32 look at the sag on that video card allready and this is a brand new system !

Was very surprised by the cooling. Msi,Asus rog strix,hp all use the same design and a rog strip pre-built I had before ramped up to 98c in 2 minutes from the crappy case and the insanely small 1 fan that was included. Also the psu was a nice surprise as msi psus at least from my experience are great. I'm actually using a 700 watt one in my custom built pc. Only complaint I got it the modular wires are so rigid and stiff

Fair review I will buy it

Good temps for top end parts pre-build ... I'm impressed, well done MSI

Oem parts are usually gated from certain things especially in the bios

6:35 this bit is specially hilarious man 🤣

Should have a rating system and a leaderboard ✌🏾

I'm a big fan of prebuilts in general---nowadays they can sometimes represent a real bargain. However, that is not the case here---you can build your own with the same GPU/CPU with much better quality at a much lower price. There's no value proposition to be found here.

yeah the specs are nice but for that price id better be getting one of the most durable cases imaginable as well as some extreme overclocking potential with the motherboard.

Dawid, you should do a video reviewing Powerspec (Micro Center brand) pre-builts! I recently purchased one for $2500 USD, half the cost of this rig, and it has some pretty amazing components in it for the price, as well as really good build quality: -CPU: I9-13900K -GPU: Ventus 4070 Ti -RAM: G Skill Ripjaws DDR5 5600 mhz (with RAM speed already set to max speed) -Motherboard: MSI Pro Z690-A (has 2 extra NVMe slots) -Case: Lian Li ATX 205 Mesh -Storage: 2 TB WD Blue NVMe SSD -PSU: 850 W G+ PowerSpec branded PSU (not sure of quality) -Cooling: 3 140mm case fans, and a CoolerMaster ML240L AIO Perhaps you could even get them to do a sponsored video ;) Regardless, thanks for the content!

I really like how it looks.