Dawid is a simple man, he see's two sticks of ram he's happy, be like dawid.

@thesocker7920

Жыл бұрын

4gb x 2 😈😈

@DawidDoesTechStuff

Жыл бұрын

@@thesocker7920 😅

@nathanlarson6535

Жыл бұрын

but then they don’t apply XMP out of the box so it just kinda cancels out

@odioalospoopers

Жыл бұрын

and then is my laptop which came with 16GB dual channel... with 8GB soldered in

@Gatorade69

Жыл бұрын

@@odioalospoopers Who would do such a thing !?

I love the "please remove foam from the inside" bit since it apparantly shipped without supportive foam on the inside..

@paulknight5018

Жыл бұрын

Yup noticed that as well

@Grimmwoldds

Жыл бұрын

MSI: Why do people keep returning perfectly functional PCs? Starlit Partner: Apparently they didn't get the foam "they were promised".

@Joreel

Жыл бұрын

Dawid already removed it 🤔

@anumeon

Жыл бұрын

@@Joreel yeah, probably. But we shall never know i suppose.(well unless he reads this and answers)

@DawidDoesTechStuff

Жыл бұрын

@@Grimmwoldds That’s the only explanation. 😂

When I saw the two words 'pre' and 'built' together, I knew this was going to be a fun ride

@deadnest_

Жыл бұрын

oh yes dawid just knows how to make prebuilt reviews soooo well

@SteTechGaming

Жыл бұрын

I can't be the only one who's first thought every time is "does it have dual channel RAM?"

@DawidDoesTechStuff

Жыл бұрын

@@SteTechGaming That definitely is mine. Even the system having 16Gb doesn’t always mean it’ll be dual channel. 😅

@indigomizumi

Жыл бұрын

Why are pre-built PCs like this generally so dodgy anyway?

@loowick4074

Жыл бұрын

@@indigomizumi very low profit margins. So you generally want to nickel and dime every area you get.

Why do all these pre built cases have less airflow than an Egyptian tomb?

@Photo0021

Жыл бұрын

Looks over practicality, I guess.

@chucklos391

2 ай бұрын

Hilarious comment!! HAHA

Since I've seen the bundling of MSI Afterburner mentioned multiple times recently - MSI Afterburner isn't a Micro-Star International product, it's being developed by Alexey Nicolaychuk (a.k.a. Unwinder from Guru3D forums), who is also responsible for RivaTuner (and subsequently RTSS), Asus GPU Tweak and formerly EVGA Precision X.

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

two layers of turtle death is better then one you know

When the bundeled not really e-waste peripherals cost you a "doesn't set the house on fire" powersupply in your pre-build... 😬

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

well not yet anyways there is always the future for it to light things up on fire

my greatest concern is why Dawid is in a 14c room? its like living inside a freezer at that temp

@Nilboggen

Жыл бұрын

not quite a freezer but yeah 56 or so farenheight is pretty cold to be wearing short sleeves and being indoors lol.

@Dfm253

Жыл бұрын

That’s hot for Canada right? Lol

@BlueEyedVibeChecker

Жыл бұрын

14° is a freezer? My room right now is 6°C and I'm loving life lmao

@charlessorocco2900

Жыл бұрын

Dawid has a pre-built space heater to keep him warm while gaming... likely can't afford natural gas heat and the electric bill on the pre-built pc close heat system.

@FreakEkyth

Жыл бұрын

I also live in Canada, and yeah it gets cold but jesus Dawid 14C might be time to start the heater. Guessing he doesn't cause that specific room is mostly unused other than final testing.

cable management is an art, the CPU Power Cables can be tucked behind the PSU, the 24 pin along with other cables including Pcie power can be ziptied to the other deeper end of HHD Cage, Audio cable can be tucked behind the motherboard and atlast all the extra cables can be shoved inside the HDD Cage so that they are not visible.

When he was opening it he said "I can do this I'm a strong independent women" 🤣🤣🤣 sent me to the floor

@lemiru

Жыл бұрын

Yea, I had to rewind to check if I misheard him

@silasbradford

Жыл бұрын

@@lemiru it's awesome lol

Would have been neat to how much temps changed with a 120mm fan added to the front of the case

@herrakaarme

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's pretty weird the MSI original case didn't sport even a single fan there. I guess withholding that one dollar addition is what saves MSI from bankruptcy.

@UTFapollomarine7409

Жыл бұрын

yea i would rather see that than all these youtube guys always case swapping im like man, we know you guys can case swap lets see you make the case work!

@ChrisPBacon9

Жыл бұрын

@@UTFapollomarine7409 yup lol i remember when i built my first pc i had a deepcool tesseract pc case. Replaced the stock 120mm screamyboi with the 140 from a noctua nh-d15, and jankily ziptied a 120mm to the 5.25 drive bay punch outs. That thing was cool and quiet after that

MSI could have used their own power supplies... Btw Dawid, always fun and entertaining to watch your videos

@RisingRevengeance

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but those are probably more expensive than the ewaste bomb

@DawidDoesTechStuff

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed it. It’s always weird to me that companies like Asus and MSI don’t use their own parts in they’re prebuilts.

@DROOtoob

Жыл бұрын

* Their. They're = they are. It's not that hard.

@silure9502

Жыл бұрын

@@DROOtoob there*

@kaksidaksi3455

Жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff *Their*

A pre-built with dual channel RAM.. that feels like it is already christmas :D

@polarvortex6601

Жыл бұрын

mine came with dual channel ram so its not so rare after all

@devileye2132

Жыл бұрын

and sauna too

I love how Dawid now has his own jargon for pretty much any PC peripheral out there.

Thanks for all your hard work making these videos Dawid. Your sense of humour with your tech knowledge makes for good content!

Excellent video, Dawid! Please keep the Elite case around for more prebuilt testing in the future. A constant component is a great way to test just how stifling these crapboxes are.

Great Video, my little highlight here, the nice prejudice of the never freezing Canadian, 12.7°C, Dawid only in Tshirt, perfectly fine. :D

Love watching pre Built vids just too see how building your own is so much better.

@tyrosine87

Жыл бұрын

Don't underestimate custom builds (i.e. built to order), but yes. Especially since you can save a lot of money. I have a custom build, because honestly, I can't really be arsed to do the work on a custom loop.

@moogleking

Жыл бұрын

pre builts are better for newcomers though, not everyone has experience building a pc from scratch that takes time to learn

@official_pol2198

Жыл бұрын

@@moogleking KZread exists.

@SkateClipsAndTips

Жыл бұрын

I was looking at a prebuilt back during the pandemic, but decided to hold off and watched youtube videos on how to build one to pass time. When the time came, I built my first PC and it wasn't that hard tbh

@Jay_the_Caffeinator

Жыл бұрын

@@SkateClipsAndTips before KZread, I read the motherboard manual that gave me the instructions on how to put together my first build, back in 1995. It really helped understand where everything was and what it did.

I'd like to see Dawid hack the old case to get more airflow.

@honeybadger6275

Жыл бұрын

just take a 6-7mm drill bit to the case

The build and strip montages seemed to be a bit more smooth than usual, I don't know if you've changed your editing approach, the music fit well and those bits were really nice and montage-y. Good job. Keep on rocking.

Gamer nexus would have a stroke looking at that air flow for that case

@CarbonPanther

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, he would also choke having found none!

@UhOhUmm

Жыл бұрын

Actually the airflow is correct. In a choked case going all exhaust is the way. With the power consumption of this particular configuration it's good enough.

That is the most 2001 PC case layout I've seen in a long time. It's like they took a Windows ME era PC, stripped the case out, decorated it, and installed modern components.

@mattd5240

Жыл бұрын

You're probably not wrong

These kinds of videos are really fun to watch :D

Prebuilt case swaps can indeed make a huge difference. I have an HP Omen 25L that ran ridiculously hot, due to no ventilation in the front and an ewaste CPU cooler---swapped everything into a case with a vented front grill, 2 front fans, and a proper CPU cooler---the difference in temps is like night and day. in fact, the fans don't even ramp up anymore, even while gaming---they don't need to

I recently purchased a computer from CLX Gaming, and it was a great experience. I picked out what parts I wanted, they sent me updates on the progress of my build and their customer support was quick to respond. It even arrived 3 days early! Perhaps, you should do a tour of some of these Choose Your Own Adventure Semi Pre-Builts?

why the hell is the ambient temp 14 degrees 😂 great review as always, I love your addiction to prebuilts

@MasterN64

Жыл бұрын

Its not like Canada is on the equator.

@jibbily

Жыл бұрын

Just Canadia things

@Ba_Yegu

Жыл бұрын

Canadian Climate and British/US implementation of heating and insulation. 😉

@abhinavjain6797

Жыл бұрын

WAIT DAWID DOESNT LIVE IN AUSTRALIA?

I love swapping it into a better case. To make it easier on yourself, you could even go open air test bench.

TURTLEDEATH , had me in effin tears !

Everytime David reviews a pre build his room gets colder

That cable management is late 90s level

@mtaufiqn5040

Жыл бұрын

Early 2000s vibe

Nice. Their new airflow free case design is excellent, and that awesome top mounted power supply circa 1995. ABS is the only prebuilt PC I would buy. They use shitty cases but they don't use weird Chinese brand PSUs or proprietary stuff. I bought one that came with a thermaltake PSU, Intel m.2, 11400f and a gigabyte 3060 eagle oc. (The gpu brand varies)

@-Bill.

Жыл бұрын

Powerspec (Microcenters OEM brand) is pretty good, clean Windows installs and no proprietary hardware.

I was directed to this channel by the toasty bros and it’s become my favourite channel without a doubt I’ve binged watched everything he has posted in the past 2 years in like 3 weeks. Dawid made me realize the importance of a dual ram setup. Even with my ddr3 system it made huge a difference. But no worries I’m upgrading big time from LGA 1150 to LGA 1700 so it’s gonna be a good time. Also I bought that 1150 board new in 2015 😅

I really liked the 45 angle fan... seems a good idea

@turalbeats1474

Жыл бұрын

It why I chose this case for my very first build. I chose a XFX 6800xt which is huge (330mm), and this fan is absolutely perfect for it

I had the 5600 XT version of this system with a i5 10th gen. Everything looked good at first. Eventually i would get the screen flickering that would only be fixed with a reboot. Also, i could only have 2 drives in the system. If i added a third, it would not detect which was weird. Went through the bios and all the windows tools i could find to make it work and nothing. After i did a fresh install of Win11, i had zero issues. I'm guessing MSI did some tinkering to not allow much configuration of their system in the windows image

@LaurentiusTriarius

Жыл бұрын

That would be expected, practically every MSI laptop I have runs better once you reinstall windows. Not sure about the desktops my last boards were gigabyte and Asus but that would be logical.

@fdeschapell

Жыл бұрын

@@LaurentiusTriarius My current board is a gigabyte aorus board

Thanks for doing these pre-built reviews. I didn't buy a pre-built but considered one recently, and if I had known your videos beforehand, I would never have considered one.

I've had a flawless Cooler Master HAF 932 (High Air Flow) case for a decade, with numerous giant fans and vents everywhere, and it's hilarious to see all the pretty lighted ovens people like now.

I love watching dawid, the amount of dedication he has to make these videos is incredible, keep it going.

Changing out for an enclosed water cooler unit on the cpu might give a tad better performance too. The new EVGA CLX-series cooling system looks "cool" with its onboard lcd display if you can get your hands on a review unit Dawid.

i bought a Codex R from Costco awhile back and that little thing was a beast I7 10k/3060/16gb/ 2TB. I did not see any heat or bluescreen while i had it. Sold it to build a 5900x 3070ti.

nice i learned a lot , good air flow is really important

i’ve changed my comment so the reply’s make zero sense.

@-Gadget-

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I needed that awesome laugh 👍🏻

@melon64_

Жыл бұрын

And its sidekick, ROG

@mountainclimbr

Жыл бұрын

David*

@rasmussteenhansen3122

Жыл бұрын

Dont forget the villains main sidekick: Alma from the land of Acer Nitro

@isaacolukanni

Жыл бұрын

@@mountainclimbr His name is Dawid not David

I talk too much in class, I think I need to get a be quite fan so I can give my teachers a break.

If you're going to go through the effort of transmigrating the innards of the prebuilt into a quality case, I guess I'd suggest clearing the crud out of the OS by resetting it. Depending on your version, I'd guess the easiest way to do that would be under Settings > Update & Security > Recovery. Removing all that bloatware might give a measurable performance boost.

I always enjoy getting off from work on Saturday’s and coming home to a new Dawid video

I love these prebuilt videos! Wild ride every time 😂

“I’m a strong independent woman” 😂😂

Also worth noting how that power supply has a fake 80 plus certification. Not only does it have a gold label and say that its bronze certified, but the ''plus'' is literally misaligned. Also, no, it does not appear on clearesult 80 plus certified psu list. It's crazy to think that MSI might even consider working with a company fake certifying its PSUs.

My first pc was a dell crap box... I sold it after about 2 weeks of clan comp medal of honor spearhead matches (a very long time ago now 20yrs+). Ever since I've always built my own gaming pc's. Love the content dawid, never fails to make me laugh GJ.

Dawid deserves well over a million subscribers.

Genuinely one of the better prebuilds

@loowick4074

Жыл бұрын

Yeah especially a cheaper one with a cheaper GPU. Most prebuilts seem to use a design that's good for an entry system but stick high end high heat generating parts in them.

wow - kind of impressive what much difference it makes to switch from an old-style psu-at-top case to the modern style of having it at the bottom - for sure something to look out for for my next case - thanks for such a useful comparison

@markianclark9645

Жыл бұрын

Cryptearth..coincidentally I recently got my first bottom mounted power supply case after 15 plus years of top mounted old boxes..does run a little cooler..but it's more the case size and warm air extraction than where the power supply is mounted..but every little helps..if you run a serious gaming rig it's a must nowadays at the base

pretty decent. the high temps on gpu can be fixed with a mild undervolt.

8:08 In the BIOS could you please test "AVX-512 Support"? Some motherboards can add back AVX-512 by swapping out an old version of the microcode. That would be an insane feature to add to a cheap prebuilt.

@xero110

Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if the 12400 ever had AVX-512, but the 12900/12700's did.

This isnt that bad to be honest! I know its more expensive, but getting a better PSU and maybe 2 noctua fans (1 intake, 1 exhaust) might help the temps

@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716

Жыл бұрын

Or just opening the side panel when using the pc

@hailgod1

Жыл бұрын

its only the gpu that is hot, easily fixed with a undervolt without losing any performance.

@LaurentiusTriarius

Жыл бұрын

I'd have to leave that panel open for awhile my cat love the non modular PSU cheap plastic mesh wire covering. That's under warranty no?

@Xenoray1

Жыл бұрын

in no way you should spend more then 700 bucks for this pc, let alone 1400 bucks which is the current sale price lol they sell those cheap boxes for much profit, 1000 bucks are their profit atleast and you get the 500 buck part, so its bad, a running car isnt a good car aswell.

thanks for the enjoyable vid, i believe i noticed the core clock was about 50mhz faster when it's cooler small gains add up

“Birth that case” lololol these goddamn one liners, man! I could watch Dawid talk about paint drying.

You could say the MSI prebuild has a worst Case scenario :)

@tissueoflies2780

Жыл бұрын

It's so archaic looking, it's like they found some pallets of old cases they forgot about from mover a decade ago, went "fuck it, this'll do" and threw a PC together in it

Your videos are so good and helpful to see which one will i buy

I will put in my 2 cents on the Norton, I have personally used it since 1996 with NAV 4.0, there were some bad times around the release of Norton Security in the early 2000s, but mcafee is trash, the first thing I remove when I get a laptop that has it unfortunately preinstalled (looking at you asus) and the IT department has installed it on my work station by surprise and it has taken my previously deliciously fast work station to something that feels like it has a celeron processor in it and a network card that has never heard the phrase "gigabit speed"

AN AXE??? WHAT Great vid! The prebuilt reviews are always fun!

@DawidDoesTechStuff of it's not too much trouble could you add running the system without the side panel to show what temperatures would look like if people dont have the budget for an additional case. Love your commentary and your 2 layers of turtle death had me and the wife in pieces!

Because of how the GPU is angled, that case fan at the bottom is likely doing a decent job of cooling the GPU. Of course, I'd prefer something like what the Torrent, for example, provides. Anyway, good video. I'd recommend uploading in 60 FPS. Always good for gameplay footage.

I like the case swap it really drive home that the case can really help with airflow.

Dawid is close to 500k subscribers let's get him there.

Dawid I’ve built my first pc ! Thanks to you u inspired me and have motivation to building one I got a gtx 1660 ti and amd ryzen 5 3600 it’s not the best but it’s enough to watch your vids thank you love the content ❤

Nice to see their keeping cases from 2011 out of the landfill.

@Xenoray1

Жыл бұрын

yep, anytime i want serial ports, i just pop them out haha

Allways love a Dawid pre built video

Love this channel. I look forward to it every Saturday while I have my coffee.

I am so glad I built my own linux pc. I do have a MSI b560m pro motherboard. I got a little logo sticker. It has an intel i5 11500 cpu w/ big air cooler and fan. Nx 410 case and 600w power. 32GB RAM /1TB M.2 / GTX 1660 Super OC Graphics card. Running Regata OS 22 Linux. I really like how these mid tower cases really keep everything cool. There are 5 fans running but I can barely hear them.

would have been interested to see how it went with just the case side off the OG build

one thing i want to mention, here in Europe (at least in sweden) 99% of prebuilds come with dual channel ram and a decent cooler + decent airflow

I just got the same NZXT case in black as an XMas gift for my friend who just got into PC gaming. I'm so excited to teach him how to build it

You should test some of the newer HP gaming systems. They greatly improved the cooling and overall are not bad pre-builts in my opinion.

wow right before this video i watched a hard on hardware video its crazy how much ur energy has changed

I snickered heavily when you put that specific nzxt case on the desk as an airflow improvement over MSI's

That CPU cooler costs about $20 on amazon. I have four of them for xeon 5380x's on server boards. They actually work pretty good if you have fans that move air vs just spinning to prove they spin.

Just love the words you choose, so fun to watch your vidz and stay who you are m8. Your a good soul ;-)

"How to make Dawids life better?" Me: Give him dual channel ram

3:29 that's a nice hair inside the power supply at the bottom lol

Damn that NZXT case looks sooo beautiful. Love the videos man and your humor :D keep 'em comin'!

So it's a bit like the difference between standing on a lego instead of a landmine. You wouldn't want either to happen but you'd choose the landmine as then you wouldn't feel a thing... I mean the lego.

more videos like this please!! thank u

A new from video Dawid always makes my day :D

I could see something like a Fractal Pop Air for a case swap, or a bitfenix nova mesh which is like 80€ with 4 rgb fans

This case is so bizarre to me, it feels like something from 2008 with the plaatic not covering all the way side window, the psu on top, the miserable cable management/drivebays at the top, it's bizarre. Especially sad because the original Codex had a lot of problems but a great case.

The system is so modular that everything inside is just one module.

Sounds like a good room heater

The NZXT H5 Elite look amazing, i love white cases

I'm pretty sure there were at least three to four bins that GPU picked up after being put into the new case.

I bought the pure rock 2 fx tower cooler 2 weeks ago and its awesome!

2:44 It looks like I'm staring a grasshopper in the face, but it's an RGB grasshopper!

that case is older than you think, looks like its setup for a dvd drive, and the drive bays are covered by the plastic fascia

The size of the case is like pre-rom era. It could be a little narrower and add some mounts for possible fans at least.

A couple of years back I made the mistake of getting an MSI Aegis prebuilt. Had to return it when I realized it had zero ability to define fan curves, and it sounded like a jumbo jet, all the time Its very odd, MSI have had years making nice motherboards, yet don't seem to have any clue about how to do pre-builds

the case itself looks like its from 1752 but at least its all standard ATX stuff.

Fungus growing on the inside of the case is crazy ctfu

I'm somewhat surprised at the amount of temp difference w/o changing stock fan curves as, typically, the stock fan curves will make any card cook. However, I guess going to 3 intake fans, presumably with no fan curves as none were mentioned, from 0 intake fans might explain it.

lol at the m.2 drive with a sticker used as a thermal conductor to the cooling plate..

that case design is ancient, I mean 5.25 bays at the front (but no way to put a drive into them lol), parallel and serial slot covers on the back, a top mounted power supply

Have the air cooler and case as per mr. Dawids recommendation before. love em. both cost me about 250 Canadian Rupples so basically it ends up being 4 be quiet fans with a free case.

I sometimes see my CPU average about 75 C in a 21/70 F room but it can peak at 81 C abouts. I'd say it's a pretty reasonable temp from an 87mm stock HP cooler at low rpm.