I like the creativity of the shields where nothing passes through unless under a certain velocity, that way people can move and breathe but not be shot. Definitely a creative way of bringing back sword combat into the far future.

@_Donovan

Жыл бұрын

Also super useful in space. No pesky debris blowing holes throw your spaceship.

@ptolemeeselenion1542

Жыл бұрын

Indeed.

@NotForgottenCheese

Жыл бұрын

so if your running as fast as you can will you just hit yourself with the shield? Or just pass through the whole defense

@kris1123259

Жыл бұрын

Calling it a "membrane" feels more accurate to me, because it acts as a selective barrier

@danny_decheeto8300

Жыл бұрын

I dunno man I still think that *someone* would have thought of a gun that could do the job in however many thousand years passed

House Corrino essentially did with the Sardaukar what greedy companies do: they build up a reputation for quality and then once they have the market cornered, they abandon quality in favor of mass production.

@Jeff-wm3qn

Жыл бұрын

And yet people know this and they still keep buying their shitty products, blame that to people lol

@darger3

Жыл бұрын

Simply put. Spitting truth out there. 👊🏻

@FistOfNorthStar3

Жыл бұрын

It's more like the Sardaukar were trained and raised in an extremely harsh environment, they used this strength and hardiness to conquer the empire for House Corrino. Once they became essentially a police force for the Emperor, they got rich and lazy and lost their edge. The Fremen still have their edge considering the environment they live in on a daily basis. Hard times breed hard men and all that

@andrewa9064

Жыл бұрын

It's more the Sardaukar are actually quality soldiers but, were getting evened out with other houses as they were used for a police force. *Spoiler* God Emperor Leto actually uses a marriage with House Corrina to gain control of the Sardaukar and enact his peace

@Belial1125

Жыл бұрын

From ehat i remember of the origonal series, the sarducar were actually pretty dam good. The reason the atradies were killed off was brcause their soldiers were getting comparable.

In the later novels, it is shown that the Sardaukar actually admired Duke Leto for his strong leadership abilities and honour. They also secretly held a deep contempt against the Padishah Emperor for his short-sighted pettiness and incompetence. If the Emperor hadn't been so stupid he could have betrothed Irulan to Paul and peacefully passed on his throne, but tyrants could never see past their own needs.

@Graymeyne

7 ай бұрын

Makes sense that they eventually join the fremen for the god emperor.

@user-nz6dx2fj6h

7 ай бұрын

Bethroned?? No such word pal! And you were wrong about that assessment.

@bjdaniels4228

6 ай бұрын

Leto was at fault also. He could have pushed for that union and saved his house. Instead, he was trying to gain the throne for himself.

@user-nz6dx2fj6h

6 ай бұрын

@@bjdaniels4228 What?

@bjdaniels4228

6 ай бұрын

@@user-nz6dx2fj6h think about it the move would have been to wed Paul to Irulan beforehand. This ended up happening anyway after much upheaval and disruption. Again Leto’s ambition and the Emperor’s jealousy got in the way.

Honestly the Atreides defending those stairs were more intimidating than any Sardukar exhibited in the film.

@reventon_4442

Жыл бұрын

Sadly there weren't enough of them

@aguspuig6615

Жыл бұрын

nahhh, i mean they looked cool but that scene with the sardaukar floating down into formation, that was cool af

@oliverclothezoff3361

Жыл бұрын

Spoilers: in the books the Fremen are like 100x better than Sardukar. They've grown and prospered in an equally if not more inhospitable environment, indoctrinated into a life of "the tribe" the individual is nothing when compared to the success of the tribe. A handful of old men, women, and children. Kill literally a couple hundred Sardukar with a loss of about 2/50 while every Fremen are trained for combat. Those were far from the death commandos or higher class warriors. I can't wait for more movies :D

@piotrd.4850

Жыл бұрын

This was Thermopylae in miniature, if you think about it.

@Robert_Douglass

Жыл бұрын

What made the Sardaukar more frightening than the Atreides forces was their method of silent approach. The Atreides were bold but they were loud, and they were trying to let them know they were there, and they were there to fight and defend. "Here I Am, Here I Remain". In contrast, while the Sardaukar weren't trying to hide either, their method of silent mass approach was far more psychologically effective because it lent credence to their image as an utterly unstoppable force. They didn't have to rush in because they were going to crush their enemies anyway. The elite fighting forces of the ancient Persian Empire, the Immortals, used the same tactics. Approach in a mass formation under cover of darkness, wear all black with a black veil over the face, and step quietly and do not utter a sound until the front ranks make physical contact with the enemy, and all while letting them see you all coming.

I love how in the book, after the initial Harkonnen/Sardukar Assault a fremen is telling Hawat about an assault the Fremen put down. He laments that they killed 100 Sardukar but, alas, lost 2 men. When Hawat points out they were Sardukar he is visibly delighted, saying it was a pretty good fight. 😂 Moments later a fremen kamikaze runs a Sardukar transport of 300 with a single Ornithopter. The guy just watches and casually calls it a good exchange.

@jamesmunn576

7 ай бұрын

I was so hoping they put this scene in the movie!!! But.... We got the Duncan Hallway scene! Flick flickering!!

@olivierpelletier9643

6 ай бұрын

And yet, 5 mins later, those same Fremen gets ambushed and wiped by another Sardaukar unit they did nto see coming because a lot like the Sardaukar, they think high of themselves and didnt expect to be attacked after that.

@tomservo5347

6 ай бұрын

And I think the two that they lost were adolescents. The Fremen were amused with the Sardukar's spirit and fighting abilities but not at all intimidated. It makes me ask if any former Sardukar came to Dune in order to join Emperor Paul's elite fighting Fremen. They were probably really good building material with the warrior mindset of constant training and fighting spirit.

@Its_just_Isaiah

3 ай бұрын

My theory is that this scene will be in the second film, like at the start of the movie. bc this part of the books show just how nonchalant the Freman are at fighting or exchanging troops

@Chriswatt313

3 ай бұрын

I just thought it house harkonnnen on its own who attacked atreides

I think an important point has been overlooked: The Emperor did not deploy the Sardukar to conquer the Fremen. A "small" force of Sardukar were sent to secretly ensure House Atreides was destroyed, and this succeeded. The Emperor could not openly move against Leto, or it would have upset the balance of power between the Throne and the Landsraad.

@lethalwolf7455

Жыл бұрын

Facts!

@thesnoopmeistersnoops5167

Жыл бұрын

Ummmm no, sardaukar were deployed en mass after the attack in house atreides to wipe out the fremen in a pogrom which was abandoned because too many sardaukar were getting killed.

@kagisocalvinramz3826

Жыл бұрын

Game of thrones things

@khafuzteref8831

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@nunyabiznes33

Жыл бұрын

Haven't read the book but if how it was, what did they told happened to Atreides? Did the Harkonnens got all the blame and the Emperor managed to keep his hands clean? Wouldn't there have been any political consequences for the Harks? I mean, it's just like NoKor just levelling SoKor, sure there would be reactions from other countries.

Can we PLEEEAASSE get more vids on this universe? I do love it so.

@tonysan4762

Жыл бұрын

Check out Quinn's ideas. He is the definitive source on Dune Lore imo

@Grimloxz

Жыл бұрын

@@tonysan4762 You beat me to it. Quinn’s Ideas and Comicbookgirl19 a close 2nd…

The shields didn't protect users from lasers. Hitting a shield with a laser gun basically triggered an explosion which would kill both people

@filmcomicsexplained

Жыл бұрын

Yes that's right, which is why they stopped using the lasgun against shields

@AllyourBase3

Жыл бұрын

@@filmcomicsexplained I absolutely love that concept in the books. Mutually assured destruction. Was also used on purpose in the Brian Herbert books

@robertagu5533

Жыл бұрын

According to the 3-book prequel they FIRST discovered WHY you don't shoot a "Lazgun" at a shield. It results in a literal small nuclear reaction. So not just the target AND shooter die BUT apparently everyone else in the area goes too. So that wasn't a good idea for the movie. Good for a scene but not everyday in verse ise

@scratthesquirrel5242

Жыл бұрын

not just any kind of explosion either. an atomic one. that wont just kill people in the battle, but people out of it, and contaminate the area.

@diegotrejos5780

Жыл бұрын

A solution to this would be to fabricate small flying robots with laser guns, or larger humanoid robots with laser guns. Ensuring that anyone that fights with shields against you has no hope of survival, but you would by virtue of not being in the fight personally.

According to the book, Selusa Secundus was the original seat of government for the Corrino empire. A rogue house nuked it and the seat of government was moved to Kaitan. The emporer turned into a prison planet where they could recruit and train those prisoners that found a way to survive into fanatical warriors for the Emporer. Hardened by the conditions of the nuked planet they became the most formidible warriors in the universe...for a time.

@kenglasson2920

Жыл бұрын

Correct. Most of this video is NOT Dune canon. Salusa as you said was the seat of power, a lovely plant until nuked. This video is rubbish

@dusan2001

11 ай бұрын

Exactly. As a Dune nerd when I watched the movie I was like:"This is how it happened in the book" or the opposite. That prisoners turned Sardaukar theme wasn't at all explored in the movie, while in the book, at least as I understood it, both the Harkonnens and Atreides figured out that Arrakis could be the new Salusa Secundus and that the Fremen could be the new Sardaukar, because of their tough life and fanatical warshipping.

@Marduk443

9 ай бұрын

You’re correct. Have no idea what this video is about. Video is completly off

@user-nz6dx2fj6h

7 ай бұрын

I've never read that in Frank Herberts books. Ever!

@taechin1

3 ай бұрын

@@user-nz6dx2fj6h You're right, this discussion is based on the Prelude to Dune books, written by Brian Herbert and based off Frank Herbert's notes that he used to keep the storylines straight. That being said, this video is off by quite a bit imho.

I can’t wait for the 2nd part of this movie and this time I’m definitely making sure to watch in imax

The Sardaukar - the history, rise and fall - remind me of the Ottoman's Empire Janissary soldiers.

@haldir3120

Жыл бұрын

Or the Mamluks

I think you are missing the main reason most military forces in the Dune universe became sword oriented. It was less about the protection the personal shield offered or sudden lack of effectiveness for lasguns. The change was wholly due to the reaction of a lasgun when interacting with a personal shield. Accidentally or intentionally shooting some one using a shield was instant death for both your own and enemy soldiers as the reaction was similar to setting off a small nuke. Imagine the situation where you in close quarters battle hit a shield with a lasgun and all of a sudden everything within a kilometer is superheated dust that smells faintly off fuck-up.

@user-nz6dx2fj6h

7 ай бұрын

They abolished Nuclear war in a convention between the Great Houses and therefore had to fight using other methods such as shields and swords/knives. Lazguns were not abolished but were rarely used because of the lazgun/shield interactions!

@2adamast

3 ай бұрын

So the Atreides where sitting ducks with all their nuclear shields. Just as much as a random group of Sardukar

@rustknuckleirongut8107

3 ай бұрын

@@2adamast Think of the early book Atreides as chivalric knights who are prepared for war, but don't know the enemy does not follow the chivalric code. Then once Paul gain power with the fremen it is his turn to go all Henry V and bring low class archers to a knight fight.

@2adamast

3 ай бұрын

@@rustknuckleirongut8107 It was about the small nuke effect of the shields. With that it's easy to destroy a packed army group with one well placed shot. At Azincourt the French had also "low class" archers. French nobility was paid by the year for at most one month of military service to their faction. Already in 700 that was considered a questionable response to external threads.

@rustknuckleirongut8107

3 ай бұрын

@@2adamast All I meant was that the Atreides prepared for an enemy who fought like them and paid the price when the enemy surprised them. Don't bring a Knight to a longbow fight. Also much like the English, the French nobility expected ransoms to pay out big like it did for the English in earlier battles in the 100 years war. No one saw Henry V`s strategic mass execution of prisoners when he thought his rear was threatened coming. It was the literal death of chivalry that day.

Loved this deep dive into the Sardaukar! The extra media apart from the movie is amazing and really complements the storytelling. Would absolutely appreciate one for the Fremen.

The sardaukar lost because the fremen lived on a much harsher planet and their population was trained to military discipline. In the book, fremen lost 1 for every 50 sardaukar. That left thufir howat shocked when he found out. It wasn't that they got soft. They just ran into a people who were much better than them.

@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl

Жыл бұрын

Harsh environment doesn't produce strong soldiers and definitely doesn't produce Military discipline

@richlisola1

Жыл бұрын

The Fremen were bragging

@richlisola1

Жыл бұрын

@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl It does if you train them in it.

@mondaysinsanity8193

Жыл бұрын

@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl lmao yes it does harsh lived tribals have almost always beaten "civilized soldiers"

@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl

Жыл бұрын

@@mondaysinsanity8193 the reason for these tribes living in marginal land in the first place is because these 'weak' civilized people pushed them there. No one wants to live in the desert or the steep.

awesome more new content. thanks for all the work you are putting in 👍

@filmcomicsexplained

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

Hamburger, cheese burger, hamburger cheese. ~ Sardaukar

@filmcomicsexplained

Жыл бұрын

😂

I would love to see you cover the "Children of Dune" series and especially James McAvoys Leto. Been years since I saw it. Also an video on the Fremen would be awesome.

@tonysan4762

Жыл бұрын

Check out Quinn's Ideas on KZread if you want Dune Lore.

Omg, yes please! I am loving your Dune episodes. The Series is an amazing work.

Fremen, the Fedaykin, Fish Speakers, would be great to see you cover more. Great as always!

Yes. A video covering the Fremen. Please and thank you.

Absolutely master piece part 1 cant wait for part two!!! This movie was awesome and i never knew about the story lines or anything

Thanks for the solid info, as usual ✊

@filmcomicsexplained

Жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

good stuff as always

Excellent video! Thank you and please continue to add more, a video on the Fremen would be most intriguing.

More dune content? Heck yes!!!

Love your content Niyat. You make me interested in things I normally wouldn't bother with because you care about what you make 🐢🐢🐢

great presentation

Awesome content!!! 👏👏👏 Thabks 😁👍

Yesssssss another dune video 😄!

Great video, I loved that you implemented the comics also, gave me some new outlooks on style and weps they had that other channels didn't keep it up! thank you!

Hell yeah please do a video on the fremen!

The chanting reminds me of ancient Bezerkers. Excellent video! Thank you! Yes to Fremen video!

They are a lot like the Spartans in almost every way

@reimuhakurei9970

Жыл бұрын

Not really. The Spartans were landowning military aristocrats while the Sardaukar are privileged and professional slave soldiers. I'd compare them more to the Mamluks or the Janissaries.

More dune I love this... read all the books and was addicted to the games on pc growing up so the love its finally getting now I couldn't be more happy about! Great vid and well put together mate ✌

Awesome content dude :)

Cool. I like when you explore these topics. Keep going strong.

Perfect dune video and analysis.

@filmcomicsexplained

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Damian!

@damianstarks3338

Жыл бұрын

@@filmcomicsexplained don’t mention it !

Mongolian like language, Aztec like religion, Spartan like Culture, Berserker like warfare, Varangian like loyalty.

@user-nz6dx2fj6h

7 ай бұрын

What????

@VolkovVelikan

2 ай бұрын

@@user-nz6dx2fj6hread history

@lukasmadrid1945

2 ай бұрын

Dont forget big flappy dongs too

Love the video!

Love your videos.

I loved that praying scene, so dark, evil in a way.

Dune content! Hell yeah!

Love this channel

Interesting video, subscribed! 👍

"Take men rejected by all, place them in unbearable living conditions, let the weak die. Take the survivors and persuade them that they are a chosen group, superior beings called to a great destiny. Give them a religion to control them, a leader to worship. Offer them better living conditions and the certainty that they are invincible and you will have formidable soldiers." This is the credo applied by the Corino house to create the Sardaukar.

@user-nz6dx2fj6h

7 ай бұрын

Wrong. There was no religion added to their training. Where did you get that from?

@huguesroland6308

7 ай бұрын

@@user-nz6dx2fj6h The original text is vague on this subject, but the Sardaukar's reverence for the emperor is close to religious, it is suggested several times.

@user-nz6dx2fj6h

7 ай бұрын

@@huguesroland6308 I think you’ll find that’s called fanaticism, not religion!

@user-nz6dx2fj6h

7 ай бұрын

@@huguesroland6308 So vague you thought you’d put your own ideas onto it?

@huguesroland6308

7 ай бұрын

@@user-nz6dx2fj6h It's the same thing. Two horses of the same cart.

DUNE should have been made in series format. They could have made 10 epic episodes for every house in DUNE..

Looking forward to more

Yes, please cover the Fremen! Well done!

Yes please do the fremen

Can't wait for part 2 :)

Can’t wait for part 2 of the movie so hyped

Yes! More dune stuff pleaaaaase..

I will never stop loving Hans Zimmer's scores. They're SO good 😭🤤

The scene where they silently drop down was so cool in the film!

This was one of my favorite scenes from Dune. Loved the ritual chant

This was great loved the Dune movie please more of its lore.

@riftplut0474

Жыл бұрын

Watch Quinn’s ideas if you want to get deep into the lore

With a new dune game comeing out im definitely glad i wached this

I didnt know a thimble full of that!! Excellent yt Liked Subscribed saved to Favs

Yes, please do the Fremen next

YAY MORE DUNE CONTENT! DUNE PART 2, November 17, 2023.

@filmcomicsexplained

Жыл бұрын

Lets go!

Please do one on the fremen

Thanks for the video!! See you later!! Stay safe.

great insight! fremen next !? :)

Denis Villeneuve"s Sardaukar, from the first moments of the scene on Salusa Secundus, perfectly presented them as the terror troops feared by all, and it was easy to understand in your gut why, with no further explanations needed. Contrast that with David Lynch's, the most feared pastry chefs in the known universe.

@leehaelters6182

10 ай бұрын

Edit to acknowledge that I confused the David Lynch production with the Dune 2000 mini-series. The Sardaukar/pastry chefs I was thinking of were in the mini-series.

@davestier6247

9 ай бұрын

I fear the Swedish Chef even more with the war cry of "Bork Bork Bork"

Imagine this Sardaukar Imperial Military vs. the Clone Troopers from the Star Wars Universe, a true battle of the Space Operas!

@Operator2l4160

Жыл бұрын

basically sardukar are melee fighters with shields ., so shooting them wont make the cut - if your a clone trooper ., you blaster is more useful as a club than a gun 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@DocLeQuack

Жыл бұрын

@@anticlickbait Storm Troopers

@homeygfunkoffacherryfruitl4971

Жыл бұрын

Both sides would get wiped out in the first volley of blaster shots since the shields would go nuclear and kill everyone.

@bionmccool

Жыл бұрын

@@Operator2l4160 well they deal with the invincible to blaster fire enemies habitually. They'll just use the EMP grenades every clone has and keep shooting.

Its a pleasure too. Thank you!

Yes please do a video on the Fremen.

I'm really looking forward to part 2 , hope it still will be made.

@keanenfulton4696

Жыл бұрын

They're filming right now:)

@Vilakazi

Жыл бұрын

@@keanenfulton4696 they've completed filming.

@keanenfulton4696

Жыл бұрын

@@Vilakazi Yep! Cant wait to see what they've been up to

These guys have cool designs but got absolutely sunned by the Fremen warriors.

@TheMattsem

Жыл бұрын

They cannot compete against the fremen secret technique throw your infant baby on the enemy to distract them

the best explanation of the culture i have ever seen well done

great video. Do the Freman please.

Fun fact, these chaps were the influence for the Rogue Trader era Adeptus Astartes.

I love Dune as much, if not more than, Star Wars. Thanks for the lore dump! What about the Swordmasters of Ginaz after your Freman vid? Or the many lives of Duncan?

@filmcomicsexplained

Жыл бұрын

SOunds great!

Yassss!! Cover the fremen!!

Yes, plese cover the Fremen.

They’re essentially Space Janissaries who are loyal only to their Sultan/emperor

It's kind of a cool little tidbit to watch duncan fight the guys and in some of the scenes the "killmove" is actually him stopping his blade short/mid-air so the other guys can walk into it and kill themselves.

Hope we get too see more of the sardaukar in part 2

Fire vid

They have served the dark will of Padishah Emperors for over 8000 years. Eyes, as dark as night. Teeth, filed to fang. Soulless. The personal army to Emperor Shaddam IV Himself, the Imperial Warrior Elite. The deadliest fighting force in the Known Universe... the Sardaukar!!!

@VisualiseTheFun

Жыл бұрын

300

@frankmontez6853

Жыл бұрын

Heathen sardaukar 😆

@user-nz6dx2fj6h

7 ай бұрын

You are talking about the Immortals used by Darius, the Persian King. Herbert never described the Sardaukar as that, more like Nazi-looking men really. Where did you get that?

@stephendriscoll7549

3 ай бұрын

Until the Fremen!

We owe A LOT to Frank Herbert

Still bingeing 🤩

Amazing throat singing at the beginning.

I never read the books so the movie is all I know and there are so many things I want to know more about, including the Fremen.

So did gurney negotiate his ‘freedom’ with the sardaukar rather than the Harkonnens? Missed that bit in part 2

Interesting..... especially the sound they produce as their communicativelanguage

I love your content can you please do a video on Ice Pirates?

I wish there could be more videos on Dune lore...

The history of the Sardaukar presented here totally ignores the established history of the Butlerian Jihad, the nuking of Salusa Secundus and the establishment of the Imperium.

@RTYB

Жыл бұрын

BH's stuff isn't canon, just cringe fanfic.

@FrauleinMuller999

Жыл бұрын

Probably, or rather obviously, because this video is based on the 2021(?) Movie.

@673AWSF

Жыл бұрын

@@RTYB but it is cannon……

@jamesmunn576

7 ай бұрын

​@@673AWSFNot to Hardcore Dune fans.

@673AWSF

7 ай бұрын

@@jamesmunn576 I’m a hardcore Dune fan. Been reading them since the 90s. I didn’t like the second run of books, theyre not written good……. but I liked the ideas brought fourth in them. So….. Canon.

I watched the reissue in the cinemas yesterday, farkin Epic 🙌

Excellent detail. Thank you!

I would like to see a video breakdown on the Saiyan race from the manga franchise Dragon Ball and their lore.

The Fremen remind me of the Aiel of the wheel of time series. Every single one of them trained from birth to be a survival/killing expert. Basically you never want to fuck with them no matter how powerful you imagine you are. Fighting them is like fighting the desert.

@WeAreTheBentusi

Жыл бұрын

Fremen came before the Aiel, so if anything, Robert Jordan was likely inspired by Dune to make his Aiel.

You should do a video about the Spacing Guild and the Guild Navigators

Keep dune coming

This was a great video. The Sardaukar are definitely frightening but cool. Just for fun...who would win--an entire platoon of The Emperiors Blades or battle harden warriors of Star Trek's Klingon Empire (Worf level fighters)?

These guys were the apparent inspiration for the Adaptus Astarties from WH40K

These type of things I always enjoy going deeper keep it up. Wonder what to cover next?🧐🧐

so happy seeing Finnstark's artwork here!!!

According to the appendix in the original "Dune" novel, the Sardaukar were equal to a tenth level Ginaz adept - not quite a Ginaz swordmaster, but still impressive, and well above the levels of every other force. That is, until the Atreides started to train a highly skilled, potent, and loyal force. They did this using techniques of the Ginaz, their own personal charisma, and borrowing whatever techniques were effective. The Sardukaur were weakened by overconfidence and excesses of a "warrior mystique" - they started to believe their own press clippings. A Bashar of the Sardukaur (roughly equivalent to a modern captain) lived an extravagant life, equal to a very rich man, while generals lived in luxury comparable to that of a ruling family of a Major House. Baron Harkonnen mentioned to Count Fenring he thought about using Dune as a prison planet to create a new, more brutal force. Count Fenring duly reported this to Shaddam, and they turned against the Harkonnen. Pitre DeVries was horribly alarmed when he heard about that conversation. Duncan Idaho, however, believed the Fremen were already just about as good as the Sardukaur, and it wouldn't take much to train them up. The popularity of Leto among the Lansraad and the military power of the House made them Shaddam's target - before they could build a force equal to his own fifty legions of Sardukaur and took the throne.

@scottcooper4391

10 ай бұрын

My reading of the Dune series was that Bashar was more like that of a 5 star general / Field marshal. See Miles Teg references.

@user-nz6dx2fj6h

7 ай бұрын

I doubt it. The real issue was that the Sardaukar had never known defeat, and that made them vulnerable. Too arrogant.