Taking another look at the PMK and GP7 respirators
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Taking another look at the PMK and GP-7 respirators, the two Soviet gas masks produced near the end of the Cold War and into the new Russian Federation.
Both in my opinion are bad masks and far worse than the simpler preceding Soviet masks. Both use cheap rubber straps rather than a latex hood and are difficult to adjust.
The quality control on these masks can be bad as well due to the period they were made in.
Overall I would recommend a ShMS, PMG-2 or PBF over these masks.
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Love these videos, just got myself a Gp7v, gp5, mc1 and a m4b all for really good prices. You really have been an inspiration to me! Amazing advice a lot of good knowledge I’d say the number 1 channel for all this Respirator related !!! Thank you man keep up the amazing work brother!
I'd recommend getting a larger size. These run small, so a size 3 is effectively a Medium.
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
Weird, I won't spend much on one though so I'll have to wait and see what that goes for when I can actually pick a size.
@redacted3421
6 жыл бұрын
Oh i got one for twenty-five dollars.....not much help i know but try ebay.....😒
@charleybentley6358
6 жыл бұрын
Wait do they go bigger than a size 3
@sirgalahad4861
4 жыл бұрын
@@camocculte2695 I bought size 3 ngl I kinda regret it. Buy hey it looks cool
@martijnheil8825
4 жыл бұрын
@@sirgalahad4861 Why do you regret it?
Speaking of those straps; the plastic buckles on my GP-7V still have the flash on them from when they were cut out of the moulds. So adjusting the straps is about as comfortable as trying to pull a lump of super glue through a razor blade.
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
Great quality control comrades.
I absolutely love my mask. It fit’s perfectly, amazing view, and rather easy to wear. However, my goggles always fog up, and I mean like after a minute I am blind.
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
No oral nasal cup, no Tissot tubes
great vid. Have to agree about the shoddy quality of these masks. My GP-7V made in 1992 has a soft chewy drinking tube, awkward head straps and silly soft face piece. They look great but are practically dreadful.
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah they look good but are pretty awful in terms of actual design.
@tankistsdivana
Жыл бұрын
Эх, вы. В вашем понимании противогаз должен быть твердым? Наголовник и маска резиновые, они удобны, при этом пмк легко герметизировать благодаря широкому апкюратору, про питьевую трубку: конструкция была рассчитана на 10 лет, понятно что она блин не работает.
Just got my GP-7. It's surprisingly comfortable to wear, atleast for me.
@Weaponsandstuff93
5 жыл бұрын
It's not for me but good for you if you like it.
I really like the Green filters, they are cool!
@shank9025
4 жыл бұрын
@SomeGuyYT it makes you stronger
Great video as per usual
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
Cheers
I have a Gp7V gas mask model, and that one actually comes with a drinking tube, unlike its predecessor, love your channel by the way!
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah GP-7V is the better model but I think they all can have quality control issues, I imagine if you got a PMK/GP-7 that made a perfect face fit and had good parts it would be an okay mask, sadly my PMK type masks all don't really fit me very well and have poor quality parts. Also cheers.
Quick question, could you maybe do a video on how to insert the gp7 anti fog lenses, I really need it plz
I have a GP7 it fits me very well, snug fit. I would like to upgrade my filters any recommendations?
Something that makes changing sizes easier for me is pulling on the loop that is made on the outer side of the buckles, until you make a nice big hole, which makes an easier time of pulling more slack until you've resized it enough, and then pulling on it depending on whether you want it tighter or looser. Kinda hard to describe.
PBF but with 40mm filters (Like the STALKER masks) or SHMS? Theoretically, of course, which one would you prefer?
@Weaponsandstuff93
5 жыл бұрын
If it was the actual STALKER mask then that, otherwise the ShMS.
What filter did you use
I can't get my gp7 to work and I can't figure out why
What if you cut the inner face seal? Would it ruin the whole mask?
Do the later PMKs have similar design flaws/issues in general? Like PMK-2 and 3? Or are they still roughly the same design internally and just look different on the outside?
@Weaponsandstuff93
5 жыл бұрын
I've not got a PMK 2 or 3 so can't really comment.
I wish you had had more subs because you have great content
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
Cheers
Hol up, is it only the GP-5 filters that have confirmed abestos or the GP-7 ones as well?
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
GP-5 and EO-16 filters are confirmed, GP-7 filters are highly suspect.
Really! Thanks to let me know! 😀
Does the mask have asbestos in it (like some German civilian masks have) and is the mask itself safe to use? I know that stock filter does contain asbestos so I'm not gonna use it.
@Weaponsandstuff93
5 жыл бұрын
The mask itself is fine just don't use the Soviet filters.
i have an old broken gas mask that has an oral nasal cup. if i installed this nasal cup with contact cement to a GP7 for example would it be a better mask
@Weaponsandstuff93
5 жыл бұрын
It certainly wouldn't make it any worse.
For me personally , gp7 fits me perfectly it's comfy, only problem I have with GP 7 lenses fog up, iam slavic I recommend you getting size 3 , I have size 3
@Weaponsandstuff93
5 жыл бұрын
You can put anti-dim paste on the inside of the lenses to help with that.
@youraveragecreator
5 жыл бұрын
@@Weaponsandstuff93 thanks
@Tanketa-vs6tw
4 жыл бұрын
@@youraveragecreator what filter are you using?
@youraveragecreator
3 жыл бұрын
@@Tanketa-vs6tw FP5 is a filter that you can use
@spookygaming130
3 жыл бұрын
i have the excact mask and problem, thanks for the tip
Quick question, I have a EO.1.08.01 gas mask filter that came with my PMK-2, and I can’t tell if it has asbestos in it? I tried looking for ages on the internet and no one could tell me.
@Weaponsandstuff93
5 жыл бұрын
It's an upsized GP5 filter so it's probably not a good idea to breathe through it.
@daniboyrulez
5 жыл бұрын
Weaponsandstuff93 alright thank you for the quick reply
a question I am French and with the pandemic in progress I have a 2 year old girl I will like a mask which adapts to a child that you advise me thank you very much
Mine that I got today fits perfectly but it has a weird smell to it
Had to like the video within the first 3 seconds. I'm not sure i've ever seen a map of Vvardenfell anywhere else besides my wall. XD
@Weaponsandstuff93
5 жыл бұрын
Cool, most people sadly only notice the Skyrim map.
@kanmeridoc1784
5 жыл бұрын
Loved Morrowind. I looked for years for a copy of the GOTY version for Xbox. Gave up and just bought the whole collection for PC, just to get goty Morrowind. Still haven't played it since I got it though XD
hopefully gonna get a GP-5 for Christmas. and found some polish filters for sale so i can get the stock filter replaced. one question though: how long does the FP-5 filter last? am i probably gonna need more than one?
@Weaponsandstuff93
5 жыл бұрын
If you are using them against chemicals 4-24 hours or so, if you just want it for general use, months if not years
@kilo3868
5 жыл бұрын
@@Weaponsandstuff93 thank you
Does the s10 filter have asbestos? Probably not I'm just worries about the charcoal layer
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
No it's fine
@PugachevHardbass
4 жыл бұрын
Weaponsandstuff93 thanks 👍
Yeah I recently got the gp-7 soviet gas mask and it seems like the inner lining is hard to get over my face
Weird, I have a GP-7 from the third quarter of 1991 and it's really good quality, everything works as expected. I gotta say, one of the more comfortable masks in my collection. It's really uncomfortable to get on but once you have it on your face it's really comfortable. The fogging issue can be easily fixed with a anti-dim soap or a anti-dim wipe, small enough to have in your pocket or satchel.
But aren't there different revisions/versions of each of those such that the same 'type' might be better if looking at a, kind of, Mark 2 version, I mean? What do you actually DO with all these masks anyway??
Do you prefer the PMK/GP-7 gas mask or the PMG gas mask? They look a bit similar to me.
@Weaponsandstuff93
5 жыл бұрын
Regular PMG as the quality control of the parts are better.
do you know if the FM12 or S10 is safe for paintball
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
I doubt it, FM12 maybe more so but the S10 has thin plastic lenses, they would shatter if hit.
the anti fog lenses that usually come with the masks are pretty good at preventing lense fog, i have the GP-7V M (militarized version of the GP7 itself, unlike the PMK which was specific to military only.). Also it was the same experience for me until i messed with the straps (which are a pain to loosen up or tighten). The mask became significantly more comfortable and way better sealed. Im american but im also partially russian and i still have the slavic head shape, so that might help. Also the drinking tube is in a rather uncomfortable place for the mask, you have to maneuver your mouth a lot to actually get your teeth in the cut outs.I suggest using the anti fog lenses and get a bigger size.
i bought a gp-7v but its manufacture date is 1992 on both the mask and filter should i be cautious with the filter or did the manufacture specs change ?
@Weaponsandstuff93
5 жыл бұрын
Personally it wouldn't use the filter for long periods.
@ComradeChance
5 жыл бұрын
@@Weaponsandstuff93 alright I've only used it once for a picture for a friend but i also meant to ask if the soviets used asbestos in their hoses
@Weaponsandstuff93
5 жыл бұрын
No the hoses are just rubber with talc coating.
Hey l have the gas maks in your thumbnail can you make a review on that gas mask
would the gp5 hose fit on gp7 ? think it would look cool
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
Yes as they are both 40mm GOST
@cyberjack
4 жыл бұрын
@@Weaponsandstuff93 thank you
I think the Polish MC-1 is worth a video! If not just let me know!
@TVJake-uy5lt
3 жыл бұрын
He has already made one
I have a pmk 3, i find it very uncomfortable and the straps are awful. I think it looks cool so I have it on my shelf as decoration.
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
Shame they still haven't fixed them then.
Hey just a question, but can you do a review of the pmk-2 please?
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
Only if I spot one for a good price
@i_forgot1477
4 жыл бұрын
@@Weaponsandstuff93 not sure if it's legit but www.ebay.com/itm/GAS-MASK-PMK-2-drinking-system-Mask-2Hose-items-New-Russian-Army/323737523238?epid=930938126&hash=item4b60429426:g:dssAAOSwY~1Z8KJm
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
Sadly the postage on that is ridiculous, the seller is making about £15 profit from that alone.
@i_forgot1477
4 жыл бұрын
@@Weaponsandstuff93 sorry mate
The PH gas hood contain Asbestos? OR somthing another dangerous?😓
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
Originals no idea, they are rare WW1 relics, modern reproductions are made with cotton etc.
@Nuclear.
6 жыл бұрын
Weaponsandstuff93 Oh can I make a one If is possible what I need?
I want to buy a pmk-1, only because it looks cool but i want to wear it with a filter and of course i dont want to get fookin lung cancer and there are no filters i know that fit this gasamask so yeah can you recommend me something?
@Weaponsandstuff93
5 жыл бұрын
Without the filter its perfectly safe. Polish FP-5 filters fit and are safe.
@nikitamaurer2532
5 жыл бұрын
Weaponsandstuff93 Thanks
I wonder if a PMK-2 is better or worse in quality control. I have a PMK-2 coming in the post, just as a collector's piece, it will be nice to have. I have seen some PMK-3's on eBay as well, if I don't get hit by customs charges for buying from Russia, I'll get one of those as well.
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
The PMK 2 from what I heard has some weird sort of filter blanking system, rather than using a straightforward system you have to prise something into a gap to either seal it or insert a GOST thread, a lot of people hated them for that feature.
@martync7436
6 жыл бұрын
Not too worried by the unorthodox filter attachment, I'm sure I could get used to it. From what some people have said on KZread comments and videos I've seen today, the post-2000 made MPK's should have better quality control than ones made towards the collapse of the USSR, no idea how true this all is, but it makes sense to me. The plastic parts may also be badly molded, supposedly the PMK 1's have better plastic parts, than later PMK 2's, and the rubber could also be cheap and finner in places than they should be. The drinking tube is supposed to be garbage and falls apart, one guy said he replaced his with and an Isreali drinking tube. I'll have to wait and see, but it will be good to have the kit for my small collection.
I heard that that inner seal is problematic only if the size is too small .
I have another question, do all green 40mm filters contain asbestos because I really would like to get a white gp5 with the original but because of the asbestos I don't want to risk it. If anyone could help where I can buy a 100% safe original looking 40mm filter please help.
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
Only the Soviet ones.
@rescuetoast4815
6 жыл бұрын
Weaponsandstuff93 so can I get a filter that looks like the original gp5 filter but without asbestos?
@rescuetoast4815
6 жыл бұрын
Quantum Ridley and that is also green right?
@rescuetoast4815
6 жыл бұрын
Quantum Ridley so there is no way I can get a safe green filter for gp5
Gp-5 gas mask is were it's at.
So i did my research, apparently GP-7 filters have a specific symbol on them for Asbestos or none but due to keyboard. I couldn't input the exact symbol.
@method1692
5 жыл бұрын
No.
@NitrusFBlaze
5 жыл бұрын
@@method1692 I wouldn't know, I've been trying to find answers about filters for GP-7's for a while now because im getting one soon.
@method1692
5 жыл бұрын
Blaze The filters on the gp-7 and pmk are at the moment considered unsafe until someone does an asbestos test and gives back positive results
@NitrusFBlaze
5 жыл бұрын
@@method1692 oh ok.
Will the filter sock work with a FP-5 filter?
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
The Soviet GP-7 socks should work fine
@potatofarmer8672
4 жыл бұрын
Weaponsandstuff93 cool thanks
ive got a gp7 but it smells like sulfur so it's hard not to vomit with it on.
I have a s10 but I discovered that it has dust around it is dangerous?
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
Probably just talc, wipe it off with a damp cloth.
@carlosalaman1083
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, your channel is awesome
My GP7 came today and after giving it a good clean I noticed some strange white marks on the front of the mask, they vanished when washed but then came back. Just wanted to bring this up, maybe you'd know the origin of these marks, the mask seems to be from 89, just want to make sure they haven't been putting asbestos anywhere near the main body of my mask
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
That's just bluing/buffing of the rubber, you can generally get rid of it using silicone lubricants etc but it's generally just an ageing thing with the rubber, nothing asbestos related.
@cheboslovakia7039
4 жыл бұрын
@@Weaponsandstuff93 good good, just thought I'd check. It came from Amazon like so I'd hope it'd be a bit more looked after than most, but who knows. Going to give it another thoughrough wash before trying it on. Rather not run the rist of killing myself with all the old ruskie dust and talc :,)
Are the gp7 filters safe
@Weaponsandstuff93
5 жыл бұрын
Probably not.
@albertjohannesmaran2967
5 жыл бұрын
@@Weaponsandstuff93 ok
I got one of the gp7 s to have a scary looking mask to wear during this pandemic I am a technician and can easily fix and modify this mask to be great its not hard to get a newer filter to seal. I am a mask collector but I like form and function when I can get it. This mask is a piece of history for me as we are making history by living in 2020 and if things get crazy then I have something twisted to wear while the world goes nuts! With it being made where it was you can not expect it to be high quality as Russia could never produce one damn thing that was not oversized or did not fit right.
Cool
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
Also I find that the gp-7 filter is a good replacement for gost threaded masks
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
But we still don't know if it's safe.
@blitzkrieg5662
2 жыл бұрын
@@Weaponsandstuff93 i know this is from 3 years ago but really if people arent having issues i find it fine so if you wanna risk it cool
What is the best gas mask?
@Weaponsandstuff93
5 жыл бұрын
Opinion based but my favourite is the Avon CT12
After wearing a lot the gp-7 stretches out after a while
hmmm gp-7 filther is save??? or gp7 filther use asbestos too?
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
They use the same asbestos particle filter as the GP5, only the modern Russian filters are totally safe which look different, generally black with ABEK-P3 stickers
It probably just the head size and the filter
my gp7 has a drinking tube although mine is from 1992
Awesome gas mask video
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
Cheers
Pull straps harder and nothing will touch your eyes. I had same problem. I can tell you the 2 size is right for you, as my head is a little bit bigger than yours, cause pmg-1 size 3 is almost fitting me. Gp-7 size 2 fits me just right
Size one!!????!! No wonder its uncomfortable. I got a size 3 gp-7 and its genuinely comfortable and not putting preassure too much anywhere
While i do enjoy my gp7 and enjoy the look its not pratical and i would rather use my gp6 and gas mask hood (and yes i use fp5 filter) also please do a video on the m51 gas mask filter and how to clean the mask
Liam, are you feeling better now? Saw your youtube sort of update thing on the hospital visit earlier. Great video.
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
A fair bit better but not actually recovered yet.
@joefernandez1759
6 жыл бұрын
Weaponsandstuff93 was it asbestos
I like the look of them a lot and I have a GP-7v which is the same thing as yours just with a drinking tube, however due to the late Soviet Era quality that’s all it will ever be. Cool looking. But I also have two GP-5 masks one from ‘70 and one from ‘90. The one from 1990 is x10 more irritating to put on then both the other GP-5 and the GP-7v. So I’d say try and get early versions of Soviet stuff because they seem to be better quality. (Marginally)
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
Early 80s Soviet stuff is normally fine, it's only late 80s and earlier 90s Soviet/Russian stuff that's awful for the most part.
@tankistsdivana
Жыл бұрын
@@Weaponsandstuff93 ну хз, на днях забрал пмк 1990года, все прекрасно.
Hey nice vid
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
Cheers
mask looks awesome
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
Looks awesome not a brilliant design sadly
its save with gp5 filther???
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
No as both filters contain asbestos
@hisroyalelitis9047
4 жыл бұрын
@@Weaponsandstuff93 ok thx
too squishy.... thats so cute XD
Hey man do you feel better?
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
A bit
@mrbirdita5733
6 жыл бұрын
Weaponsandstuff93 Well better than nothing...
Lol this is published on my birthday And I ordered a PMK 2 for my birthday
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday for a few days ago then.
@tonger7018
6 жыл бұрын
Weaponsandstuff93 thank you
@goofyahhuncleproductions42069
5 жыл бұрын
XD no way bc like 3 days or less after my bday i got a gp7v (idk if its gonna be good or not but i got a medium) anyway just a coincidence
Btw in Russia Gp-5 costs 1$ Pg-7 costs 3$ Pmk-1/2 costs 5/7$ Pmg-1/2 - 3$ Pbf- 7$ Mm-1 - 4$ Shms - 10$
@Corvettedude1988
Сағат бұрын
Now I want to go to russia
Speaking of straps. Strange thing you said about the M65 though, I think you told me that M65Z is better with the straps, I've got to say that adjusting the M65Z straps was a really painful experience for me. Which makes sense because they are supposed to be difficult to adjust so you don't accidently loosen the mask up during a chemical attack. But for all I know, the M65Z is difficult with the straps as well.
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
They're still meant to be better, you sure you have the actual Z and not someone selling a normal M65 as a Z?
@ajaxzeer6911
6 жыл бұрын
Is there an actual way to tell which ones which? Hmm would it be possible to provide you with some photos? Quick Edit: It's probably the Z one yes. It seems that the Z variant has less holes and slightly bigger on the voice diaphragm. gasmaskandrespirator.wikia.com/wiki/M65_(Germany)
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
There isn't really a voice diaphragm on the M65, that's just the exhale cover, so yeah if you think those straps are bad, they are worse on the regular M65 apparently.
@ajaxzeer6911
6 жыл бұрын
Weaponsandstuff93 Oh yeah. Sorry, wasn't sure how it's called. But yeah I bet it's even more difficult.
I would rather have the pmk 3 instead of the pmk 1 and 2 or the gp7 just because the pmk 3 has a oral nasal cup that’s my opinion anyway plus the lense’s on the pmk 3 are abit better too
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
Those are pretty good reasons.
Why don’t you get a PMK-2 and PMK-3 and do a review on them? They ain’t expensive.
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
They are due to the outrageous prices a lot of sellers want to ship them for.
I only like the look of them
Early squad
One of the best things about American masks is that it genuinely has to fit every possible facial morphology lol
Is Russian military still using it (the first one) ?
@Weaponsandstuff93
5 жыл бұрын
No idea, reservists might be but the actual military uses the PMK-3 or PMK-S now I believe.
@tigertank370
5 жыл бұрын
@@Weaponsandstuff93 ah ok but what about pmk 4 and pmk 5 ? Do they use it ?
Great video :) But don't be sad, I think you have a very Slavic face :) And I don't mean that in a bad sense, cause I'm a South Slav myself :D So it's not your fault, it's the masks fault imho :D
You should invest in pmk 3
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
I don't think invest is the right word for a gas mask, unless you didn't have any and needed it for survival.
I didn’t know slavic face is a thing
@Weaponsandstuff93
5 жыл бұрын
Basically every race and ethnic group has unique facial features.
Will this protect me from Caronna virus
Apparently they still make gp7’s Let that sink in. Altough tbh i do like the pmk and gp7 as long as they have anti fog. The comfortability while actually wearing the mask varies for everyone but yes the straps are a mother
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
Weird I thought it was mostly the PPM-88/GP-9 that was the production model, one Russian company still makes GP-5 and GP-5M masks although they are different than the originals.
@bigturn1051
6 жыл бұрын
Weaponsandstuff93 they do make ppm 88’s altough its not used much and they mainly use gp7’s. The civ version of the pmk 2 and the shm p plus all the mag and other visor masks
if you don't like a gas mask dont buy it -THE MORE YOU KNOW-
These are tough rubber on and off -- GP 5 much better!!
For me, the PMK has an ideal voice diaphram. It more sounds like a decent microphone than speaking in a mask.
I came here because of Escape from Tarkov. Shame the masks are trash.
Would you get a PMK-2 or PMK-3 just for collectors purpose?
@Weaponsandstuff93
5 жыл бұрын
If I saw them cheap enough
@NitrusFBlaze
5 жыл бұрын
@@Weaponsandstuff93 agreed with that.
After wearing a lot the gp-7 stretches out after a while
I think the Polish MC-1 is worth a video! If not just let me know!
@Weaponsandstuff93
6 жыл бұрын
I've already done videos on it.