Reevaluating Cheek Filter Gas Masks
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Reevaluating Cheek Filter Gas Masks, after chatting with Tom from 13 O'Clock Podcast about the US M17 respirator I thought I'd do a more neutral reevaluation of cheek filter masks in general, especially because the actual US M17 series is far higher in quality than some of the Communist copies of it.
In this video I take into account the quality of the rubbers used on the mask, the quality of the filters, the overall weight and bulk of the masks and the operational requirements of the mask.
I'm still not convinced Cheek Filter masks are a better option than 40mm masks but they are certainly better than I first thought.
The masks in the video are the US M17A2, XM28E4. Czechoslovakian M10 and M10M. Polish MP-4 and MP-4B. Bulgarian PDE-1. Soviet PBF. Chinese Type 65.
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My grandfather said that he thought the m17 was very comfortable and liked it more than the m9 because he was left handed and got issued a right handed shooter’s mask
@drunkukrainian6998
2 жыл бұрын
I mean that makes sense given that the only time most soldiers ever eaven need their mask is in training
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Might have it’s flaws, but in the end I think they look really cool
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah they certainly look cool
@Li-lj1fv
3 жыл бұрын
@@Weaponsandstuff93 they look like something from a fallout game
@johnballentine6638
11 ай бұрын
@@Li-lj1fv well if you notice the t45 t51 and t60 actually have cheek filters and enclave suits have external filters
Really need to pick up an M17 at some point, so iconic.
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a classic
I was a Chemical warfare specialist and the m17a2 is rated for NBC agents. I went through toxic live agent training in that mask.
@1brytol
3 жыл бұрын
Well, every gas mask with particulate filter and vapor filter is NBC
Changing cheek filters is my guilty pleasure
if the cheek filter caps can be unscrew maybe we can use hoses on the cheek filter gas masks?
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
I've done a video of that
This video encouraged me to buy a pde-1 just to modify it extremely. It's got a 5 point skull cap, 3d printed 40mm adapters that i attached hoses too, though i would like to get my hands on some m10m rebreather tubes instead. I also bought a opch 90 chemical suit, but it has yet to arrive.
Nobody: Czechoslovakians: casually go under water.
One thing I heard from someone who was a US army paratrooper in the 80s, was that the side mounted filter could get tangled up in equipment (parachute cords?). This is an older memory, so I'm not sure about the accuracy of it, but it does seem logical that interior check filter masks would lack that problem. The same would apply to riot control situations. The M50 seems like the best of both designs.
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's why the M50 style masks will probably become popular, one of the things lots of service men praised the M17 and PBF for was as you said, not catching on anything and being ambidextrous
Have you tried out any of the 3d printed adapters that allow the mask to accept 40mm filters?
@dialdowninternet8987
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, he has
Good channel
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
cheers
Good if your considering buying a cheek filter.
When he accidentally said Soviet "pdf" I imagined Stalin on Microsoft word
Good video. I would say that the changing of the filters in the field wouldn't be a top priority. The twin filters must be good enough for the combatant to escape the toxic situation they are in. Sod the spare filter. I think the filters would provide enough time to do the job. Like you I have the Czech and polish masks and find them pretty good on the whole. Thanks for sharing.
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
The Polish clones are the best IMO, keeps most of the good design choices of the M17.
Question, are there any replica GP-5 mask filters anywhere that doesn't have anything in them?
@frogsteve6126
4 жыл бұрын
I made a couple of fake GP-5 filters by taking them apart and glueing or taping the bottom back on. It’s still the steel or metal filter but is empty and doesn’t have asbestos.
@piesbojowy3026
4 жыл бұрын
You can find a free 3d model and get someone to print it for you.
nice vid
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
Cheers
the filter of the polish mp4 and PBF contains asbestos ?
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
MP4 nobody knows, PBF EO-19 filters do contain asbestos apparently
How would you search for a leak in a mask, bc i got one in mine and i can't find where it's leaking from, i checked the lenses and even the valves
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
Are you sure the filter isn't expired? If mask has a drinking tube, that could be broken
@FuturPaladin489
4 жыл бұрын
@@Weaponsandstuff93 no i did the thing with my hand on the entry valve itself, and there's non its an old m38 mask but now i tink it might be the exhale vavle
@user-un5xj1wl6p
3 жыл бұрын
@@FuturPaladin489 old m38? Maybe the material is damaged or some seal aroud a compartment had some problem?
@user-un5xj1wl6p
3 жыл бұрын
@Jesus mf Christ probably, so he has seen the pearly gates and you've come to tell
That M50 looks like a toy compared to the M17 gas mask. Put then side by side again and look at them. Durability. I bet the M17 outlives any of those mask. Its good old fashioned American enginuity. Its quality. And I agree. The Polish MP4 is nice. You can interchange M17 filters on to MP4. Only wish they made the MP4 in black color. Ill take the M17 gas mask any day. Its proven. MP4 good too and very affordable
@mysticcollector8258
3 жыл бұрын
M17 is my favorite mask, I have all m17 masks, great excellent design and mask
Question, ¿How can one tell the size of an M17?
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
It says S, M or L on it meaning small, medium or large
@gopnikcommissar7665
4 жыл бұрын
@@Weaponsandstuff93 Do you know where that marking is it located?
@lunathecrusader
3 жыл бұрын
@@gopnikcommissar7665 *very* late reply but you find the size marking on the forehead just above the lenses
15:40 clean it. Now lol
The XM27 was actually an M17 that was made of clear silicon.
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
As I said in the video
@CWS.History1944
4 жыл бұрын
Weaponsandstuff93 you said the XM27 was a clear XM28
Hello
@Weaponsandstuff93
4 жыл бұрын
Hi
@AururaTinn7930
4 жыл бұрын
H
These masks are pretty bad, cause they are just cheeki but not breeki.
@1brytol
3 жыл бұрын
O no kurwa siema. Pozdro z Polski