I carried the m17 and the m17 A1 throughout my career when I went in the Army at 6:30 holding the filter if you look on the filter casing it'll be banded I believe it's an orange band, represents is the training filter use for CS gas only, I forget what NATO filters were color coded banded, but if NBC Warfare was deployed, if you do not have the right filters in it you were toast. From the time somebody called (gas) or banging on metal to metal, your allowed time to mask was 6 sec,? Undo snap case, withdraw the masks, spread your fingers on head straps, secure mask on head, clear the mask, or you were a no-go! I believe 3 seconds was allowed to secure the Hood. You would practice this! and practices this! until you become very proficient ...it was a pain in the ass, when you going through Decom station, the m17 was completely broken down and it was thoroughly washed and rinsed 55 gallon trash cans in almost boiling water, another pain in the ass to air-dry and reassemble. Qualifying with your M16 was another story, but another pain in the ass. Active 1975 to 1984.

@Weaponsandstuff93

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great comment, I've been talking with several US veterans on here now regarding the M17 and M40s and my opinion over the years has certainly improved on the M17 as it seems it was fairly good at the roles the US wanted it for at the time. The nice thing is how the Avon M50 which is in current US service has a similar profile to the M17 but with removable exterior filters.

@daleslover2771

4 жыл бұрын

@@Weaponsandstuff93 yet another interesting fact about the M17A1 they were definitely a pain ....during NBC nuclear biological chemical environment... station on the Soviet border for 36 months 75 to 78 we prepared for the real event, The Soviets took it one step further they literally deployed biological chemical warfare during their training exercises.. it was not uncommon too watch on DOD classified films. dead Soviet soldiers on there FTX. A U S Company Commander during the Cold War was authorized to have a soldier of the lowest rank Echelon to remove his gas mask and take three minutes deep breaths,then re mask, for all clear was called out. You sure as hell didn't want to be a sacrificial lamb....

@_Dogberry_

3 жыл бұрын

@@daleslover2771 This is still protocol in US Tank platoons. The 3 tanks loader(The 3 tank was by doctrine the least experienced of the platoon) could be ordered to remove his mask and exit the tank and take deep breathes to test the air. However this would be the last case scenario. The tanks would have NBC detecting tape on the sides that the TC would see, hopefully the NBC system works to. US Army 19K 17-20’

I'd like to get an M17 at some point simply because it's a unique looking mask. Also, it meshes with my interest in Vietnam to early '90s militaria.

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's cool looking.

@Radical.420

4 жыл бұрын

I would encourage you to get one, I have one and I have stocked up on filters. its is a very unique mask

@user-un5xj1wl6p

3 жыл бұрын

You're american right? Then by all means go for the OG not any copy...

@marcelogonzalez8547

Жыл бұрын

I just ordered one online, arrives tomorrow. And yes, I wanted it based on looks mostly. It will be a nice addition to my collection.

@ronaldrobertson2332

Жыл бұрын

I bought one years ago, only because that's what I was issued in the U.S. Air Force in the early 1980's. I'd just received two sets of the filters I ordered off ebay, so now I'll settle down to the task of changing the old filters. Wish me luck! 👍

I got one of these from my dad who used be on our local swat team and is now just a normal officer. He was able to get one as it was just lying around in the swat wear house. It’s in great condition.

@michaelkuhle9866

Жыл бұрын

Not calling you wrong bud but.. swat teams don't operate out of wearhouses in the u.s. nor have I ever heard of swat teams using old military surplus gas masks lol. I could be wrong though ?

@woodsrunnersepa

Ай бұрын

​@@michaelkuhle9866Waco era dude

I'm very impressed with your knowledge of gas masks

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

Just a lot of time spent reading about them and having an interest in them.

@j.d.ethridge2162

6 жыл бұрын

I know a lot about gas mask and I don’t even have to read about them, I just watch your videos.

@mister_stalker.8813

4 жыл бұрын

@@Weaponsandstuff93 I was ever intrested in gas mask, now, an 2y size SHms is coming.

As an American, I found your impression very accurate and humorous

I live in florida and can personally vouch for your southern accent

Just acquired one of these cleaning a sold house. It was still in all its original packaging nvr opened. Thanks for your video and your narration. I'm inspired to open it now.

Great review, I was given one of these years ago and I always wondered about it, thank you. 😁

The American accent was hilarious

Picked up one of these from a swap meet for 17 dollars, complete.

got this mask for free from a friend who worked in a chemical factory,got the M17A2 with 2 gas hoods

@Weaponsandstuff93

5 жыл бұрын

Cool

May have been pointed out below already, but the A1 and A2 look pretty much identical on the outside (apart from the manufacture dates, A1s are all early 70s), but the A1 will have the resuscitation tube right next to the drinking tube inside, you won't miss it if it's in there. There's also internal differences in the exhale valve because of that system, gotta really dig to find that though. The A1 resuscitation system also had a long external hose that would clip in around the exhale valve and run to your "patient" on the other end, but I've yet to see one included with any of the A1's I've seen for sale online. Numerich Gun Parts Corp does have the tubes for sale on their website for about $12 though, just ordered one myself to go with my A1, along with a winterization kit.

@FullSemiAuto357

6 жыл бұрын

Also on the A1, turning the lever on the outside one direction will push the drinking tube towards you, turning the opposite direction pushes the resuscitation tube towards you.

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info but I worked out a long time ago this was the A2 hence why the title and thumbnail say A2.

@FullSemiAuto357

6 жыл бұрын

Right on, I see that now. Got the resuscitation tube for my A1 the other day but for some reason the woman won't let me practice CPR on her with it... hehe

The M17 had no drinking tube that was added with the A1, the A1 also had another tube that was used for CPR but was removed with the A2

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

As mentioned in the video.

@andrewshepherd1537

Жыл бұрын

How the hell do you do CPR with a gas mask on? Doesn't CPR require a seal between your mouth and that if the person you are doing the rescue breathing on?

Nice mask man. I seen one on U.S. ebay for 15 bucks and I lost the bid, sadly. The package came with the mask, carrying bag, ballistic outserts, plastic bag, decon powder packs (you rub them against your clothing to show contaminated areas of your clothing) , and a hood.

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

The powder stuff sounds cool.

Just found an m18 C1, this video helped to understand it a little bit better 👌🏼

I just bought this mask from a local army store. Your video was the closest thing I could find to an instruction manual. Mine is green and probably the first version model.

@Weaponsandstuff93

5 жыл бұрын

If it's green it's probably the Czech M10 or M10-M.

@powerart1

5 жыл бұрын

@@Weaponsandstuff93 thanks for telling me. I'm disappointed because I read on a prepper site that Russian masks had asbestos in their filters.

@Weaponsandstuff93

5 жыл бұрын

It's not actually a Russian mask though, the Czech filters a lot of people consider to be safe but I've not actually seen any real lab reports on it.

@powerart1

5 жыл бұрын

Ah, good to know. I was extra paranoid because the mask came in a sealed bag and came with everything but the filters. And I assumed that was the reason they weren't included.

@Asbestdeparting24

10 ай бұрын

@@powerart1dude, the m10 isn’t green. If it is dark grey or dark light green blend it’s an m17, or it could be some other thing

I just bought an A1 few days ago and I absolutely love it even tho i wouldn't use it for its actual purpose today.

So I think the filters are clogged on mine but some reason I can’t get the filters off. Any ideas?

I have a question in the movie "the painist" a german soldier wears a gas mask to inspect a burning building, could german or american gas mask be used in such situations?

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I've already done a video on respirators and fires.

finally your favorite gas mask :)

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

Hohoho.

@cctproductions6976

3 жыл бұрын

@@Weaponsandstuff93 you supposed to adjust strap by rapid jerk not steady pull!!!!!!!

I got one M17A1 history gift from Vietnam War. It was made in 1969. Thank for your instruction.

Something I've noticed is that hazmat soldiers in 90s movies always use m-17 masks even though the m40 was already out. I guess they just had a lot of them left for use.

@kentuckyace1068

6 ай бұрын

The rollout took a while

Changing out those cheek filters was not very easy as I recall from 1982 in Germany

There is a mask called the xm27 and its made of an rubber of you can see trought.It was made to replace the m17 and it was lighter but it was a cheek filter mask.

I think I have a military manual for that mask. It points out the differences between the varients. I'll look for it later.

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

It's the A2, a few other people have posted the list.

Does anybody know how to unscrew the front nozzle it’s about as big as a half dollar if you do please let me know I need to clean it thanks

This is so cool!I love this mask!

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

I have a love hate relationship with cheek filter masks personally.

@MrFox-zz4kx

6 жыл бұрын

Weaponsandstuff93 I like how they look,and they are pretty light,but putting the filters in is horrible.

the mask fog up when you don't have the filters?

Mine is pretty much brand new looking stuff for the fabric built which is a little tattered but not by much and after washing it it looks pretty good I think it’s from the 80s sometime man I really need your help with this

M17a1 has white tube inside next to the drinking tube for the resuscitation system inside which connects the M1 resuc tube over the exhale valve please can you confirm if yours has a white tube inside as i would buy but I’m unsure if the seller is correct.

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

Mines definitely an A2 then as expected.

All your videos are amazing. I have a Czech M10M with missing screwed-in caps (I believe it's called inlet valves). I'm just wondering if the M10M can be used with M17 filters and M17 snap-on inlet valves. Thanks

@jackleary6246

4 жыл бұрын

No, the filters aren’t interchangeable

@denisnovkov3581

2 жыл бұрын

Its true. I have both masks.

Best thing is seeing people putting cheek filters on the outside of the mask instead of inside.

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

If they designed the masks to work like that they would have been a lot better.

8:13 that’s not what happened, during the early 90’s Scott aviation had produced about 3,000 m40 masks, they didn’t produce enough for it to be widely distributed so during the gulf war the us fell back on old stocks of m17a2/a1 and m13a2 filters.

Can you please recommend a good silicone spray/gel for freshening up gas masks?

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

Draper silicone lube.

I’ve had one and I’m trying to figure out how to use it

I have this mask still for many years imm juust now looking to use it again but needed to replace the filters but i cant get them to come out. mine is also the m17A1 from what i can tell and it doesnt have a drinking tube at all nor does the front rubber piece seem compatible

@Weaponsandstuff93

4 жыл бұрын

Probably the M17 ABC, the original model. Make sure you unclip the filter covers from the outside first, as they lock the filters in place.

@bailey2624

4 жыл бұрын

@@Weaponsandstuff93 finally figured it out and needed to use a flat head driver to pop them off

93 how to distinguish m17 and m10m?

Interesting because when I ordered my MSU mask, it came with that same exact carry bag AND the water proof bag too.

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

Did the US just mass produce the same bags and issue them with every mask.

also forgot to say the m40 existed during the gulf war but it wasn't fielded to confuse soldiers the xm40 project to replace the m17 series was around since the early 1980s but the final product the m40 was adopted during the gulf war but m17s had already been in use. you also have to remember that the us air force and navy had the mcu in the 1980s before the gulf war.

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

Most of those masks were never made in proper numbers however until the M17 was actually taken out of service, I'm well aware that they had the XM40 and the prototype MCU masks from around the 1970s but prototypes don't count for much until they actually are made in big enough numbers to replace issued equipment.

will you overview the german ww2 m38 gas mask? im not asking you for testing it, just want to learn more about it. both fabric and rubber.

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

The GM30 is the fabric mask, the GM38 is the rubber mask, I covered the GM38 in a video only a month or so ago.

@mikoajgorski9042

6 жыл бұрын

cool. one more question. probably you know the IP5 tank crew member mask, i find it interesting and funny concept. will it be an upcoming episode in a future?

Is it possible to drink from a normal bottle from the the m10m without permanently damaging the drinking tube?

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

If you find a bottle with a top roughly the same size as the Czech canteen, then shove the Czech drinking adaptor in yeah.

@bigturn1051

6 жыл бұрын

Weaponsandstuff93 for how much did buy the canteen adaptor for?

great video (even though it is a cheek filter mask) i was hoping that you would be able to do a video on an actual m17 and not a clone.

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

To be honest it's fairly good but I'd say the Czech M10m has better straps and a slightly better rubber, otherwise the M17 is better in every way than the clone masks.

So I have an m-17 that fits and the nose doesn’t pinch and the mask is the most comfortable I’ve worn

Whats difference between m17 and m17a1 and m17a2

I like that there are no cannisters to get in the way of shouldering your rifle.

@Weaponsandstuff93

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah ambidextrous mask

Weaponsandstuff93 what is your favourite kind of modern day gas mask is your favourite?

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

Avon CT12.

Cheek filter masks suck, but a marine said that "they were supposed to last us long enough to complete the mission" ... Good video

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

As said that's wishful thinking, how do you know every mission can be completed in less time than the filters take to expire.

@lappbricks3995

6 жыл бұрын

Good question.

@mysticcollector8258

3 жыл бұрын

They could last up to 24 hours in a contaminated environment

i like the m17a2 i love the m17a1 both are really cool masks

Are the filters considered safe on these masks? Would it be safe only on a certain version? If they are not safe would the filters be hard to find and expensive to replace?

@Weaponsandstuff93

5 жыл бұрын

Yes no asbestos in them however they do contain chromium.

@zachweaver58

5 жыл бұрын

@@Weaponsandstuff93 Hey, sorry for the late reply, but thank you. Is it a high dosage of chromium?

@Weaponsandstuff93

5 жыл бұрын

@@zachweaver58 Not really, chromium poisoning although extensively investigated in gas mask filters has never been found to be a problem, people only tend to get chromium poisoning from inhaling large quantities of chromium in factories etc, not because a gram leaked from a filter where it was mixed with charcoal.

@zachweaver58

5 жыл бұрын

@@Weaponsandstuff93 Thank you for the information. I'm planning on buying a M17 gas mask for my gulf war collection.

Does anyone know if the original m17 gas masks have asbestos filters because I have one from my grand father from 65 or 66

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

From what I've heard so this isn't 100% accurate, there is no asbestos in M17 filters but there is chromium.

@drewcarll5431

6 жыл бұрын

Weaponsandstuff93 thx for telling

Just wondering how I can drink out of it, I’ve been trying to drink out of this hunk of a mask and I can’t figure out how

@soldat_von_wien

5 ай бұрын

You need the special canteen

From what I read, early m17a2's were just a1's that had the resuscitation tube port removed, so who knows.

What side did you have

I have like 6 of these. I have 2 packs of extra filters. I think the filters were made in the 80s

How do I find out what year mine is from?

@blakelong5866

3 жыл бұрын

Should be a stamp on the left side of the face

M17A1 mask with asbestos?

You probably won't see this but if you do, would it be to much to ask that you give me the measurements on the small mask? I need to know how big/small the mask is so I know if need to buy the medium or small?

@Weaponsandstuff93

3 жыл бұрын

I can't easily measure it but basically a size small M17 would be a similar fit to a size 1 GP-5, M would be about a size 2 and L a size 3.

@tanker12999

3 жыл бұрын

@@Weaponsandstuff93 ok well that helps with finding a size so thanks

I like the look of this mask and am tempted to purchase one i don't care about practicality

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

They're cool but totally impracticable as mentioned.

I like how this mask looks a bit like the Predator mask from the moves. It would be good to see a review of the NATO NBC Facelet. Just to see if those things ever had a chance to save you.

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

If I see one cheap enough I'll get one but they're sort of a last ditch mask, would be useless against nerve gas and blister agents because it doesn't totally cover the face.

@martync7436

6 жыл бұрын

Nice. They were considered a bit of a joke by the army guys issued with them from the comments I read. It would make a good video though.

In November 1985 I remember the olive drab version Fort Campbell Kentucky

If the external filters had a rubber covering could be interesting...basicaly a 40 mm / 60 mm connector and a soft filter that fits onto tge cheeck realy closely...

My friends dad was in the Marines in desert Storm and they only issued him 1 pair of filters

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

No wonder they went to 40mm.

This harness works very well with the mcu

this looks like one of those masks that the cut hl2 enemy called the combine camo soldiers wear.

Hey, a question what kind of music you heard?

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

?

@andrestafur2973

6 жыл бұрын

I mean what is your favorite type of music

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure I answered that in Q&A video number one.

@andrestafur2973

6 жыл бұрын

Weaponsandstuff93 thanks also keep up whit the content!

Sorry to hear about the kidney stones, that is extremely painful I've heard. I just purchased an M17A2 and I won a bid for 2 XM28E4s in great condition for around $100, the worst part is waiting...

@Weaponsandstuff93

4 жыл бұрын

Great finds

@MsFrostitute

4 жыл бұрын

@@Weaponsandstuff93 I saw your review on the MCU-2/P, do you have any thoughts on the MSA Millennium?

Do you have the hood for it?

@Weaponsandstuff93

5 жыл бұрын

Yes I have the green zip up hood as well as the Communist grey rubber hood copies.

I'd love an M17, but I can never find them new old stock for a good price despite how long they were used.

@Weaponsandstuff93

5 жыл бұрын

Strange are you in the USA?

@techstormdarkvision3590

5 жыл бұрын

@@Weaponsandstuff93 Yes I am, it might be because I'm not looking hard enough, or I'm being too stingy and expecting a communist mask price for a western mask, lastly it might be because the reason that they were used for so long was that they were reused. My Dad was in the USMC during the Gulf War and was issued an M17. According to him, when his service ended, his mask was returned, cleaned, and re-issued to someone else.

@Weaponsandstuff93

5 жыл бұрын

@@techstormdarkvision3590 Yeah it could just be a case of them already going else where.

@techstormdarkvision3590

5 жыл бұрын

@@Weaponsandstuff93 This could also explain the high price and relative rarity of the m40, another mask I want to have at some point. BTW, I've recently come across a mask you may have heard of: the Avon FM53.

American masks vs Soviet//vs Europe ,which better for nuke, poison gas , smoke?

@bigturn1051

6 жыл бұрын

Oussama Lasfer they are all the same. It just depends on the filter

@oussamalasfer4860

6 жыл бұрын

Quantum Ridley I see thx

I just got a m17a1, question is when I breath in it seems like the mask squishes in like if I was checking for a seal. Is it normal to do that ?

Were these mask used in vietnam or was it just the A1?

@Weaponsandstuff93

5 жыл бұрын

The ABC was the version used in Vietnam

my first gen m17 is from 1965 and my m17a2 is from 1984 and also you wear the main strap on the carrier around your waist then the smaller second strap goes around your upper leg.

@PotatoCrusader

4 жыл бұрын

Wearing it that way is an official way of wearing it, it all depends on the situation

I just got one of these at a local surplus store yesterday

@Weaponsandstuff93

4 жыл бұрын

Cool the A2 version?

@skinbagmusic9530

4 жыл бұрын

@@Weaponsandstuff93 yes, i believe so

I always wanted an m17 review, and i knew you didnt have one and was never going to get one soon. Then i went on youtube and skimmed trough the recommendations...

and i think you have riot filters cause of the grey cap on the filter cause the nbc or abc m13a1 filters have a green cap.

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

It can't be a riot filter as it mostly blocks the air freshener which is organic vapour, riot filters are particle filters and do nothing to stop organic vapours.

@zanekirubakaran6271

6 жыл бұрын

yeah but the package on my riot filters specifically say FOR RIOT CONTROL AGENTS ONLY

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

That's because it won't protect you from chemical weapons, they put the same warning on the XM28E4's bag.

@zanekirubakaran6271

6 жыл бұрын

yeah thats why im saying you have riot control filters

@mysticcollector8258

3 жыл бұрын

I believe the riot filters were the orange ringed m13a1 filters

M17A2 be like... (HL2 Combine Soldier) "Pick up that can! Ha ha ha!"

I own the mask, can I sell it?

Where did u buy this?

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

eBay

hi just curious but do every filter fit every gas mask or do they have specific filters for each design?

@mapcogasstation9021

6 жыл бұрын

they have different threads and some have different material in the filter

@leefythan5649

6 жыл бұрын

Some have 40mm NATO threads, some 40mm GOST, some 60mm and some like the m17 in the video have cheek filters. While each mask has specific filters they are meant to go with, some filters of the same thread type are interchangeable.

“I’m not a woman who’s given birth, but I have had 2 kidney stones… It kind of reminds me of having kidney stones trying to change the filters on this mask”

nice

I need it for my 6 color desert uniform

@Weaponsandstuff93

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah very Gulf War.

I laughed so hard at the American accent lol

FYI your wearing bag wrong the Strap that you have over your shoulder is a waist strap that's how all more modern US bags work but otherwise a great mask.

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah the strap system seems a bit weird, some apparently tie to the leg.

@zanekirubakaran6271

6 жыл бұрын

yea

there is the m17 just plain and then the m17a1 with the resussitation tube and then the m17a2 the one that you have (i have the first gen)

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah the first one is called the M17ABC

@whileecoyote8719

6 жыл бұрын

well that is the one I have

Mine is same year and maker too. Small world I guess?

I have the same mask i still don't know if its a m1 or m2

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

This one is an A2.

@redacted3421

6 жыл бұрын

Weaponsandstuff93 thank you i have been wanting to sell it because I don't need in my collection anymore

Mate your wearing the carrier wrong the thin strap goes around your leg and the thick strap goes around the waist

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

Doesn't really matter as I won't be using the carrier for anything.

@SH3LLSH0CK3D

6 жыл бұрын

Weaponsandstuff93 fair point also great vid

How much did it cost?

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

About £40.

On the last video i comented will a gas mask protect you from cold what i meant was will it protect you from an illnes or fever

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

It will stop infections because NBC filters block Bacteria.

I got one of these recently and it came with outserts what do they do?

8:20

The m17a2 is a m17 clone

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

No it's not.

@MrBioniclefan1

6 жыл бұрын

No it's improved M17 mask

@coltonh_

6 жыл бұрын

yes I know

@glyndaholman4751

6 жыл бұрын

10/10 Would read again. -IGN

You finally got an M17, is it better than the M10?

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

A bit

Do a cheek filter replacement vid!

@Weaponsandstuff93

6 жыл бұрын

That would be the prelude to a breaking my camera video so no thanks.

@dancer1

3 жыл бұрын

@@Weaponsandstuff93 what

I can’t see those filters lasting longer than 30 minutes in an environment contaminated with bromine or mustard gas; no more than 10 minutes in the presence of any nerve agents. Those filters are also likely to *fail* in the presence of ammonia gases/aerosols

I consider these obsolete military gas masks very useful in day to day life, especially when dealing with smelly garbage, pickled cabbages, rotten food, preparing some over spiced food, going on the bus with bunch of sick people, filthy,/stinking bums or having to split open a animal's innards when skinning it, plus it doubles as Halloween mask, it also helps when wielding a chainsaw, sadly I no longer own one, :(

I think they used them at the Waco siege 1993

I wonder if it is illegal to wear it in the US because of this covid-19

@legendary_dovahkiin_supportukr

4 жыл бұрын

@@94SexyStang not where I live people don't wear gas masks they see me wearing a gas mask they be like aah run he has Coronavirus

Got my m17a1 at a flee market. Was 30$ got it down to 23$ and the couple said it was a ww2 and I’m going “whaaaaaat?” And my nana was going “whaaaaat? That’s the one I used in the 80s!”