Wish I'd been taught this on my lessons, I worked this out on my own a few months later and had a complete moment of clarity about how people could slow down so smoothly.

There's something to be said for the old "sequential gears" for getting students to appreciate what gear to use when they have slowed to a certain speed. Not the DVSA way, I know, and not strictly necessary, but a useful learning tool. It's then quite easy to remove the unnecessary steps once the understanding is there.

@andyowens5494

5 жыл бұрын

Inclusive Driving Learning to ride a motorcycle gives you that and a whole bunch of observation skills that you just dont get as a car driver..

@Historyfan476AD

4 жыл бұрын

let's be frank the DVSA has a bad habit of over complicating things, and advising the worse advice sometimes.

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2 жыл бұрын

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@frederickshawn713

2 жыл бұрын

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2 жыл бұрын

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You are an excellent calm Instructor. Though I do not live in the UK, the video is quite useful apart from we drive on the other side of the road. I passed my drving exam lately, but it was a horrible suffering, my so called instructor did not tell me the basics he was only able to shouting on you when you made mistakes.. I struggled a lot i needed to take 45 hours to pass on 2nd attempt ( I was a 0 mile student = never driven a car before). You are really lucky in the UK to have Instrcutor like him.

When I was instructing I used a phrase, “ Brakes to slow, Gears to go.” I taut block changing up and down the gears. When I learned to drive in 1971, change down one gear at a time was used to assist slowing down as the brakes weren’t as good as they are today and not all gears were synchromesh.

I have my test in a week's time, had I not seen this video I would have never known, my driving instructor never told me, keep up the good work

Thanks for that mate. Iam a trainee instructor and always found that exact exercise hard to explain to students.but now using that technique has really helped

There are mixed understanding of changing down through the gears, but being in the right gear is essential, also no clutch in untill nearly stopped to stop coasting.

This video is super helpful! I’ve always struggled to get my head around it. Thank you!

God bless for these vital tips far too often neglected by instructors. So if I gather: one slows down by braking progressively, then clutching to demote to 2nd gear, then search the bite to release both so that we make the turn without pressing on any pedals because I indeed I heard pressing clutch/brakes/balancing during a turn actually damages the clutch / overheat via throttle

I have been struggling with this for ages, just couldn't get it and ended up having too many revs for second and jerking around the corners from a major to a minor road. I am going straight out to practice this today, thanks Ashley xx

Thanks for all the help and the videos buddy, helped me pass first time about a week ago. Keep it up :)

This is massively helpful for those of us who are recent passers. Sometimes I find myself doing this if I'm approaching a junction and not sure if it is clear to leave - this way I am still moving with just enough momentum to move off if safe to do so, and slow and in control enough to stop if not safe to move. I can see why it takes practice though, as you assume when you change gear, the car will slow you down with engine braking. Definitely going to practice this more on my way to work!

yes this skill is certainly valuable , not only for driving round town but also later on in the different range of driving conditions from wet / snow control , long downhill gearchanges and very valuable for the car drivers who suddenly finds themselves in a loaded hire van forcexample and need to drive with inertia to ensure a stable load .

Thank you for the video Ashley

did my MIDAS training for work .. did a lot of creeping and block shifting , so different from riding my motorcycle. Nice Video

Thanks for these Vedieos as they help me have some knowledge going in to me lesson

Great video not had my license long an I find theses very helpful

Provided I haven't got a tailgater but do have good visability I tend to downshift and use engine braking when turning into junctions. But that said I like your technique, definitely something I'm going to have to adopt.

@supergeekjay

5 жыл бұрын

Me too, I use engine braking by habit, and just touch my brake pedal to put the brake lights on and stop it rolling while clutch in. Saves your brakes (one clutch is cheaper than a full set of pads and discs!) and gives you more slowing power, especially in emergency stops, if you can remember to do it in the heat of the moment!

I've found it tricky with gearing and pedal movements at junctions like these. This explanation really helped thanks!

@elliotmadgwick6850

5 жыл бұрын

Could you make a video relating to slow uphill crawling over bumps and ridges? Thanks again!

fab bit of a knowledge i can see myself using

Quality video and well informed. I use to make the same error!

After watching your videos, especially this one, I want my money back from my 'instructor'. He didn't say half the things that would have helped me learn these things quicker. Took me 12 hours to learn the whole thing about keeping the brakes pressed while slowing down and clutch+gear shifting down. Mind you, I did drive like that at lesson 1 instinctively, but I was also pressing the clutch way too early, before the gear shift was even needed (afraid of braking without clutch = stalling). The instructor corrected me not to press the clutch while breaking to slow, so then for some reason, I misunderstood the sequence and would break to slow without clutch (as corrected) but would release the break to change gear! Of course that led to coasting and he kept yelling at me for coasting. I had no clue what I'm doing wrong... In my mind I was not supposed to slow the car down by having clutch and brake pressed at the same time... After I told him that in lesson 12, he was like, why wouldn't you be able to do that? Who taught you that? .... A simple correction about me using the clutch too early made me misunderstand and not use the two together at all! Instead of him figuring out what's wrong, he kept yelling at me for 10 hours... Dear instructors, listen do your students and make sure they understand your instructions, especially if they are non-native English speakers. Thanks Ashley for your videos.

Well Done Ashley

Smashed it! Boss! :) Sounds similar to the 'brake / gear overlap' talked about for RoSPA and IAM. Very interesting, I will analyse my own technique next time I'm out on the road having watched this and see if I can improve it. Thanks as always.

Wasn't taught that but will try to learn that really like these vids as it is good advice 👍

I'm about to take my test, and this is the hardest part for me still. My instructor has not made it clear, that I need to KEEP braking while gearing down, so I would brake and then get off the brake and then clutch down/gear down afterwards, and it just never feels controlled enough for making my turns and coming up to roundabouts and would often be a bit jerky. Hopefully I can remember to do this on my test in a few days and in the future of course. Even though we drive on the right side in Denmark, and it's a bit confusing to watch this because everything is opposite, this still helps me see what I need to do on the pedals...so thanks. I can tell you're a brilliant instructor :)

Awesome video as always I’m a learner myself and my instructor is very helpful and I’m struggling with roundabouts currently I have trouble with which exit my instructor wants me to go but he is helping and correcting me nicely but do you have any other tips Ashley please

Brillant vidéo. Merci infiniment.

I didn't watch the entire video. But I would like to say brilliant video. Here in Sweden allot of drivers that use manual cars stall due to to little throttle input at the start and some use to much and damage the clutch. If I'm first in line and I see it's clear I normally give the car about 1500 to 2000rpm and go off the clutch alittle more aggressive less slip and wear on the clutch. If I need to creep uphill or anywhere I leave enough space to I can fully let the clutch up and still be at idle rolling in gear. Not slipping more then I have to. My goal is to have the clutch fully up at most times. At red lights I put the car into neutral while waiting. When I go I normally push the accelerator with toes on right foot hold alittle break with heel. And then left foot on clutch if I'm staring in a hill and there is risk to roll back. Or I'll use the parking break :)

Very helpful while am doing my driving lessons! :)

@ashley_neal

4 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I generally rev match the clutch before re-engaging. I've had the same car since I passed my test and on the first MOT they told me my clutch had excessive wear so decided to learn skills to extent the life of my clutch. You can barely feel my downshifts now and the clutch has never come back up on my MOTs. Maybe that's just because on my first MOT it had 10,000 miles and now 5 years later it has 60,000 miles on the clock and the clutch still has roughly the same free play.

What are your thoughts on heel-toe rev matching?

BEAST of an instructor! I never even know what in doing correct with mine lol

@BaldMancTwat

3 жыл бұрын

You should ask your instructor anything you don't know.

"Find the bite by listening", paraphrasing but in my car, which is a 1.6 diesel from 2012, you can pretty much feel through your foot whether you're at the limit of stalling or not. Sound is very important but it's worth knowing that after a bit of time in your car, you can get to know the car through feel

Thanks a lot for this Ash. I could've done with watching this before my lesson today and wouldnt have stalled like i did. Oh well

@tinpot1978

5 жыл бұрын

Everyone stalls pal. Experienced and learners. Obviously less often the more experienced you are but you'll always have a cheeky one pop up every now and then.

how have i passed my test and not been shown this omg nice 1 neal thanks

I'm quite early into neutral when approaching lights, brake pads are a lot cheaper to replace than the clutch

@vilenius187

2 жыл бұрын

Do it right and you won't have any extra wear on the clutch. And you will save money on petrol as well

Damn, I love having an electric car. Gears and associated problems are something I'll never have to worry about again.

@loc4725

5 жыл бұрын

Until you need to drive the 1.0L manual courtesy car... ☺

@angrypom

5 жыл бұрын

@@loc4725 To be fair, I was being hyperbolic - I still have to drive my wife's manual petrol car from time to time, but I can dream of a fully electric future...

@johnmckay1423

4 жыл бұрын

@Finn Scott You can't safely drive 300 miles without stopping, never mind four or five hundred, so it's a non issue. If I was driving 400 miles every day, it might be slightly less convenient than petrol. My mileage meant at least one trip to a petrol station every week - dirty, smelly and almost £100 a time. My electric car is fully fuelled every morning and costs less than a tenner a week. I use a public charger maybe 6 times a year and that's usually for free in a car park at my destination. The car is more expensive, but I'd rather spend the £90 per week on a car than dinosaur fuel.

Fantastic! lucky students - learning to drive without break-gear overlap.

I passed my test in the early eighties. I was taught to match the gear to the road speed. Decades later, when having advanced lessons, I was told to leave the gears alone while slowing!

@downthegardenpath

5 жыл бұрын

But what if you need power suddenly to get out of trouble?

Been waiting ages for a proper video about gearing down as i keep jolting when downshifting on my lesson

@martinweizenacker7129

5 жыл бұрын

Rev matching is the magic word, but for starters the simpler from of rev matching is matching the car's speed using the brake to the engine's idle rpm for that gear (as shown in this video). That way when you let go of the clutch there is no engine braking (jolt). Advanced rev matching using the throttle allows you to do the same but at higher than idle speeds.

I was taught this by my instructor in Gravesend. I’d sometimes lift the clutch early, resulting in jerky deceleration. I finally got the hang of it and was using this technique after passing my test. However, there were some scenarios where I wouldn’t know how to select a low gear at high speed. For example, a 50mph limit, a steep gradient sign and “Use low gear for 1 1/2 miles”. How could I switch from 6th to 4th or even 3rd without placing wear and strain on the clutch and flywheel assemblies when lifting up the clutch pedal? My solution was to clutch in, guess where the revs would be in 4th, press the accelerator to bring the revs up while switching from 6th to 4th, then clutch out. It took nearly a year to smoothly transition the gears and revs, but I managed it. I then realised after watching some old touring car videos, the racing drivers were doing almost what I had come up with, except they took it to the next level: they’d be braking for a corner, clutching in and pressing the accelerator at the same time, effectively all three pedals pressed down. I tried to adopt the technique and it took me another 6 months, but I got the hang of it. I now know it as either “heel and toe” or “blipping the throttle”. When approaching a roundabout, I can now apply less brake pressure by rev-matching gear selections by pressing the brake with my big toe while blipping the throttle with either my little toe or heel. Sometimes I can even decelerate without touching the brake, just rev matching and letting engine braking slow me down. The only downside to this is that there is no indication to a those behind that I’m slowing down since the brake lights don’t activate. They can sometimes get super close before realising and hit their brakes quite hard. But this isn’t my fault, it’s theirs for not obsessing the distance between my vehicle and theirs.

@TooSmarteh

5 жыл бұрын

Joel Zimmerman if you’re slowing down and not using your brakes then it’s your fault as you haven’t alerted other drivers you’re slowing down, people can’t judge ur speed from observation

@Jefferson1228

5 жыл бұрын

Can they not? I do it all the time. I’m not being pedantic, but that’s why we have two eyes and not one: so that we can judge speed and distance. Perhaps it’s because I’ve been taught to a professional extent. I do notice that compared to friends and family driving, I am always observant and expecting the unexpected, whereas they get comfortable and laid back. What if the vehicle in front’s brake lights are stuck on, regardless of whether they’re braking or not? I tend to see Citroën and Peugeot cars having this problem. What about vehicles travelling up a steep hill at 50mph? Many drivers tend to accelerate less or just let go of the accelerator to lose speed because if they brake, they’d slow down too fast. Some coaches I drive have a speed-hold function on the retarder. Essentially, I accelerate the coach on a declining gradient and then let go of the accelerator. The retarder then automatically ‘locks’ my speed, regardless of the gradient or until the road starts to plateau. The brake lights are not applied when the retarder is in the ‘lock’ function, so if the gradient gets steeper, the vehicles behind would have to compensate. This puts no pressure on the brake pads. I’ve been behind HGVs with this retarder function and I’ve been fine following them in my car. However, I still see other cars letting gravity accelerate them down the hill, only to keep braking and braking every time they get too close. I always think, “Man, if they keep their brakes on like that, they’ll risk glazing them.” For me, it’s part of Driving 101 that you switch to a lower gear when descending a hill or slowing down. Most signs warning of a declining gradient even say, “Low gear for X miles”.

@TooSmarteh

5 жыл бұрын

Joel Zimmerman like you said not everyone has the same alertness as you which isn’t good but say one day someone does rear end you and on dashcam it shows no break lights. In that case you could be at fault, going down a hill is a more tolerable situation for not showing break lights because everyone should know there’s gravitational acceleration on decline so there’s more emphasis on keeping a safe distance.

@Jefferson1228

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed, there are some dopey drivers out there, I would disagree with the fault finding. Regardless of alertness, one should always be alert to the vehicle in front. Driving is something which should never be taken for granted: always alert, always ready. Always have an escape route. Always imagine scenarios in real-time and how to avoid them. If I get rear-ended by someone because I drop down from 6th to 3rd, I’d dread to think what would happen if I were to slam on the brakes if I had to avoid something. No one should be driving so close that I’d get rear ended by engine braking. I sometimes see other drivers doing engine braking and because I’m always centred on that car and what the vehicles in front of them are doing, I adapt my driving style and distance to accommodate. For example, if I’m behind a car which keeps on changing speed from 20-40mph and back again due to traffic, I hang back and do around 30mph so that I’m just doing a constant speed instead of having to keep wasting fuel and brakes.

@TooSmarteh

5 жыл бұрын

Joel Zimmerman fair point

when ashley said dont straighten up mate, your looking to the right and moving the wheel to the right. had me in fits for some reason I think its how he said it.

So when turning in gear 2, you press the clutch to the biting point?!

Im confused just on your equipment list. When/what do you use a mirrorless for

is it bad to just put it neutral and when coming up the turn put it in its correct gear?

Only issue i have with this is that sometimes to get round a really tight corner you have to put the clutch fully down otherwise the car will just move naturally at 10mph unless you put it in first to get round which personally i think isnt right. So ultimately having the clutch up going round a corner is right but there can be exceptions

I wasn't taught shifting down through the gears , I was taught you can skip any you need to pretty easily .. however I often gear down now to save fuel, if I'm approaching a red light etc, I find it very effective rather than just braking when you get to the light..

@ellasnannie1233

5 жыл бұрын

changing gear costs money @loading gamez

Hi sir! I'm thinking if it's bad for the engine when you brake using a lower gear. My friend taught me that I can quickly slow down a vehicle by going down gear then slightly slipping the clutch and slightly pressing the brake. Is this a bad practice?

So what happens if your slowing down and take it out if gear do you need to have your foot on the clutch?

Honestly when I was learning to drive I started using the gears to slow down by my instructor told me not to and only to use the brake and make a gear change one you’ve done the braking, honestly I’m just glad I can drive the way I want to now.

@ashley_neal

5 жыл бұрын

Slow down to the speed required then choose the appropriate gear. Your instructor was correct for normal road driving. Thanks. Ashley

@SeaCaps

5 жыл бұрын

Ashley Neal thanks for the response Ashley, it’s just that the brakes on my car aren’t as sharp as they used to be so for slowing down from higher speeds I will downshift from 5th to 4th and sometimes 4th to 3rd so I don’t have to fully rely on the brakes.

@johnmckay1423

4 жыл бұрын

@@SeaCaps You should get your brakes checked. Worn discs and pads shouldn't reduce braking force until they're past their minimum wear point. There's gradually less thickness of pad and disc material, but the contact area is the same and the hydraulic system should move them gradually closer together to compensate for the wear so the gap between disc and pad is always the same. Worn tyres will reduce the braking capability, but using the gears to slow you down won't help with that.

@SeaCaps

4 жыл бұрын

John McKay Thank you for your reply John, my brakes are in good working order, I only got it MOTed a few months ago, using your gears to slow when you’re off the gas increases your engine rotation while still maintaining your current speed thus increasing the amount of ‘drag’ it’s having on your speed. It just means that while slowing a change from say 5th to 3rd drastically lowers the amount of braking force needed to come to a stop.

It might be worth explaining the difference between downshifting with a petrol engine vs a diesel. Some drivers who don't have much experience driving diesels may not be fully aware of diesel engines much stronger engine braking effect generally making it more difficult to rev-match smoothly whilst downshifting than a petrol. It can even be dangerous to not rev match smoothly on poor road surfaces as the engine braking, clutch and tires can end up fighting each other and possibly lead to a loss of control, even on a straight road if the road is oily, wet or particularly bumpy. On that note, what is the general view instructors have regarding teaching students about car control in emergency situations? Would skidpan training be a good idea or not?

Would you be uploading any videos on advanced driving techniques in the future? I’d like to do the course

I realise it’s not something you would ever teach,recommend or condone, but when driving yourself, do you ever use techniques like: double clutching, heel-toe braking and rev matching?

Why does Roadcraft and RoSPA recommend against brake-gear overlap?

@tomtiger5

5 жыл бұрын

Roadcraft has speed and gear separate in the system, but also says that in certain scenarios it might be necessary to do both.

I’m wondering what you think of the practice of rev matching? Is it recommended to hold clutch down for a two or so seconds, since revs May be high if performed quickly?

@commanchi7

5 жыл бұрын

Rev matching is more a case of ensuring the engine & transmission speed are equal on re-engagement rather than duration that the clutch is held down, matching is actually easier if you make the gear change & blip the throttle on re-engagement before the revs of the engine speed drop as you will have to compensate with additional throttle input to prevent the car from jolting and causing additional wear & tear.

Hi Ashley, Can you explain what you teach when waiting at traffic lights in regards to the clutch and gears. I recently had some Minibus training and the instructor insisted that while waiting at the lights i should keep the bus in 1st gear while keeping the clutch pressed. This for me felt completely wrong as i had been taught around 15 years ago to come out of gear and bring the clutch up. The instructor said that my way put wear on the clutch. However doing it her way apparently puts wear on the throw-out bearing, it doesn't allow the vehicle to use its stop-start technology as that is only triggered when in neutral and with the clutch up, and in my and my colleagues eyes is more unsafe as should you be shunted from behind and your foot slips off of the clutch the engine is then engaged as it is still in gear. Trying to do this new procedure really messed up my whole driving technique and with very little time before my test, it did not go well. I feel had I of kept to my routine I would of felt much more comfortable. Which method do you teach and why? What are your thoughts on each? If keeping the car in gear with the clutch pressed is the now correct way then why are car manufactures making stop-start systems that only work when out of gear and with the clutch up? Would love to hear what you have to say on the issue (although i must be honest I have not yet checked all your old videos to see if you have already covered this topic as i am a relatively new viewer) Thank you in advance.

@MicraHakkinen

5 жыл бұрын

That instructor is clueless. Claiming you're putting wear on the clutch by putting the vehicle in neutral shows a complete lack of understanding. You are correct, keeping the clutch depressed while stationary puts wear on the throwout bearing and will eventually lead to an expensive repair on a clutch that could have had a much longer life.

@hearnia2k

5 жыл бұрын

When stopped at any place a pedestrian could cross you should stop the vehicle, and engage the handbrake, so neutral, and off the clutch. If someone goes into the back of you then you can be pushed forwards, and slip off the break. If you're in gear and have clutch down your vehicle could even be propelled forwards into a pedestrian, or other traffic. This is what I was taught when learning, and what I continue to do to this day. You should only engage the gear to get ready to leave the lights if there are no pedestrians still crossing, and at a time when the lights are about to change., certainly not for the full duration of a light cycle. I wonder if there is any mechanical impact from constantly sitting several minutes at lights with the clutch fully depressed too, I doubt it, but not sure.

Question please Ashley regarding changing down gear when climbing hills, I often find pupils don’t come off the gas before clutching down. This occurs more frequently than when driving on a level road. Any thoughts as to why?

@ashley_neal

4 жыл бұрын

For me it's usually down to the pupils having to use more gas in the first place to climb the hill. They get used to releasing the gas when gear changing a specific amount, which is not enough to stop the engine revving without load when the clutch is pressed. It often also happens when you try to teach them to accelerate quickly, due to the same reason of extra gas being used.

@isaacatkybrown

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Ashley!

I have to be honest, I know it's part of test to use gears this way but when going major to minor junction is it really necessary to get in gear before you turn?? I tend to coast and get in gear as I turn or after - when it feels right.

@ShuskiCross

5 жыл бұрын

Never coast into a corner, ever. You need your car in gear when doing corners, what if you need that split second to speed away from something? Or need that extra bit of speed to dodge something? Like a car on your side of the road. If you coast at any time, for any reason. You have lost power to the car. You can't do anything, except brake in a split second decison. You can get into gear, but that takes time in these types of encounters, you might also miss the gear in a panic, or even stall because you've instinctively started slamming the acceleration pedal to speed out the way which will result in a stall.

With being large and have a wide leg gap when sitting and learning to drive is rather hard for me because im ok with left foot for clutch but right foot i cant keep it where break is otherwise my right leg and foot strains and hurts its not as bad when using the gas but i cant have my foot where break is to pivot between break and gas i have to do a full move from right to left to switch between break and gas. Ive just finished my 2nd 2nd hour lesson my instructor says my leg should get better and not strain and hurt as much as we go on but i worry that it wouldnt change and its all gona be a big cost for nothing. Im enjoying the lessons its fun but i have a limitation i think. Anyhow about approaching junctions and going down to 1st and breaking to slow down to the edg and then lifting the clutch to slowly move forward is a struggle ive only done it today mind and i did do it a few times well (slowly using clutch to edge forward to the t junction bits i mean. Wondered ashley if u have had large men with that issue with right foot straining and having difficulty reaching the break due to the wide gap when sitting and cant really bring feet together for more than a little bit at a time for driving.

@fullnuclearbreakfast

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe you should walk instead

@ashley_neal

5 жыл бұрын

Try this? kzread.info/dash/bejne/oXqNq8ukYtqcetY.html

@RuneScapeZammy

5 жыл бұрын

I have had the same problem until I figured out how to position the seat and the steering wheel so I don't have to strain my leg that much. If you drive a car that supports it you can lower your seat and upper your steering wheel. That gives you more space to position your leg under the steering wheel so you don't have to bend it that much. Then you can position your foot way better (like the video Ashley linked you) and operate with more comfort.

I can't rev match my car has no rev gauge. I usually go by speed but sometimes i still get a little jerk. I'm getting better but it's rare for me to get smooth when gearing down.

@dlevi67

2 жыл бұрын

You definitely don't need a rev gauge to rev match - not least because the instrument is unlikely to move quickly enough. Engine noise is your best ally - and a lot of repetition. You'll get it right.

@rufusgreenleaf2466

2 жыл бұрын

@@dlevi67 I see or should i say "hear" what you mean. The more i drive the more i get use to it.

I do this all the time by default but I often feel that it feels wrong and may put extra ware on the clutch.

@MicraHakkinen

5 жыл бұрын

If you're doing it in a normal fashion it won't put extra wear on your clutch. Wear only occurs when the clutch is slipping and even then it's quite minimal. You get a lot of wear if you put in too much throttle too early when pulling away or accelerating, because then the engine starts speeding up and delivering more power before the clutch is fully engaged. It is more important to keep your foot off the clutch pedal when you're not using it, something I see a lot of people not doing properly. Also whenever you're stopped for more than a few seconds, put it in neutral and get your foot off the clutch pedal. If you keep your foot resting on the clutch pedal while driving of if you keep the clutch depressed while standing still, you're putting unnecessary wear on the clutch release bearing (also called throwout bearing). The lever acting on the clutch when you press the clutch pedal is stationary while the clutch is spinning. The throwout bearing transfers the force from the lever to the clutch and so one side of that bearing is spinning with the clutch while the lever is pressing quite firmly against it (a lot of force is required to disengage the clutch). You can imagine then that bearing is going to have a tough time if you keep the clutch depressed for extended periods of time standing stil (the engine is still spinning and so is the clutch), or if while driving you continually force it against the clutch and so it has to keep spinning the entire drive. I've personally seen more people destroy their throwout bearing than their clutch. Unfortunately due to the amount of work involved the repair will cost almost the same in either case (and replacing just the throwout bearing and not the clutch while you're at it is almost always a waste of money in the long run, so usually it'll cost exactly the same either way).

@downthegardenpath

5 жыл бұрын

You should only be changing down when the gear to be selected is the same speed as the engine. If you feel the engine torque brake as you lift the clutch then you are putting wear on it. To get around this, so you can still engine brake, you can heel-toe. I definitely do not advise learning to do it on public roads though. Maybe start by learning to rev match down gears as you come up to bends or slowing when braking isn't necessary.

@MicraHakkinen

5 жыл бұрын

@@downthegardenpath Heel-toe is only needed to downshift under braking while maintaining the ability to immediately accelerate again. During normal driving on public roads you can downshift before you start braking and blip the throttle to pick up the lower gear smoothly for engine braking, or downshift later under braking so the engine rpm doesn't have to rise much. Still, forcing the engine rpm up through the clutch puts only very minimal wear on the clutch, because it really doesn't require much power to go from the wheels through the clutch to speed up the engine. It is however much less comfortable for your passengers.

@downthegardenpath

5 жыл бұрын

@@MicraHakkinen I'm aware how to down shift and that you only need to heel toe when breaking... I'm not sure how you would use both heel and toe without breaking? Fourth pedal? I'm sorry but you're wrong. Shifting down without matching the engine speed puts huge wear on a clutch. Over the lifetime of a clutch you could double its life by never changing gear at the incorrect engine speed. Edit. I just realised you said heel toe is only do you can accelerate again. That is a reason to do it but far more important on public roads is so you can use your engine to break. You should not be using the engine to break of you cannot rev match.

OK my brain is being stupid so I think I've misunderstood the problem, was the student letting the car coast while changing gear?

@ashley_neal

5 жыл бұрын

Sort of, yes. Without the brake being used with the clutch down the effectively rolls away with you. Keep control with the brake until you get the gear working. Thanks. Ashley

@hearnia2k

5 жыл бұрын

@@ashley_neal This was not clear in the video, so I came to the comments to understand what this video was trying to show. I'm not a new driver, but I'm not sure what skill is being shown in this video, there was several instruction components, each a little different, and demonstrating normal driving. I'm not sure why you would ever lift the brake pedal just due to pushing the clutch; unless you were coasting, which is generally considered bad practice. Coasting is likely only useful if the situation changes once you've already started your gear change.

Can you please do a video on clutch control up a hill?

@elliotmadgwick6850

5 жыл бұрын

I find uphill tracks difficult as well, especially at low speeds!

@ellasnannie1233

5 жыл бұрын

@sarah goodwin think of the BITE as the "HOLD" instead. it will help make more sense. you need to HOLD a car at a certain point on the clutch.. THEN release the HB, and wait a second or two before moving off.. learn to HOLD.. it makes if easier to pull off when the HB has gone off..too many people stall because they try rush off as soon as the HB is dropped

When your saying keep braking to slow down to the junction, do you mean keep a pressure on the brake continuously or on and off and how much pressure?

@MUSTASCH1O

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not a teacher but the idea is you keep your foot at just the right amount of pressure to slow at a deceleration that feels safe for the situation. It takes practise to get the feel right. Never use an on-off braking technique. It makes no sense for any driver to brake that way in any situation.

@nataliedebiase5089

3 жыл бұрын

@@MUSTASCH1O thanks I've had a couple more lessons since this comment so kind of getting the hang of it now, thanks 😊

@MUSTASCH1O

3 жыл бұрын

@@nataliedebiase5089 Good to hear!

Not quite the same as the advanced driving technique where you actually want break gear separation but not all instructors teach block changes so it’s a good place to start for newer drivers.

Drive a small van so rules as follows 1/ Using gears correctly is Very Important 2/ Being aware of personnel space the same as driving on wing mirrors only 3/ Parallel parking can be the slightly difficult bit but normally am fine. Have driven 7.5 and vans alot so my problem is I don't see the problem at times it's automatic to do theses things. Being honest majority of motorway driving people are total idiots. Three reasons 1/ Tail gating..... 2/ Not driving to the road conditions.... 3/ Cutting people up All of these if doing it and goes wrong you deserve it, NO SYMPATHY at all. And yes I do drive fast at times but use rules as stated. BASIC COMMON SENSE.

rev match downshift everything

@Zadesniper

5 жыл бұрын

All day everyday

@Joeyd123abc2

4 жыл бұрын

In regular driving, sure. But not on your test, most examiners are instructed to mark down against rev-matching, heel & toe etc.

@Zadesniper

4 жыл бұрын

@@Joeyd123abc2 👍

@TheBoostedDoge

4 жыл бұрын

@@Joeyd123abc2 I was just trying to be funny. I agree with that. Someone with only a few hours of driving experience shouldn't be attempting to use advanced driving techniques. I remember when I was teaching myself to heel toe rev match I'd always end up pushing the brake pedal harder when rotating my heel to the throttle which resulted in sudden slow downs. Remember kids when you're learning to heel toe do it in the safety of an empty parking lot

can i ask why you get them going into 1st before the car has stopped?

@ashley_neal

5 жыл бұрын

That's simple. In case they can go 👍

@ellasnannie1233

5 жыл бұрын

@@ashley_neal BUT A moving car doesn't need 1.. and if they can go, they need 2nd.. surely?

@ashley_neal

5 жыл бұрын

Diesel cars are much longer geared than petrol equivalents. This means 2nd gear doesn't want to work as slowly. 1st gear also gives you a bit more power to accelerate more if required to emerge safely. All cars are different so don't think that would definitely be best for your car. Is yours petrol or diesel?

@ellasnannie1233

5 жыл бұрын

@@ashley_neal.. Any car doesnt need gear one until its stopped. A moving car, travelling above 7 mph can be kept going in 2 nd. Doesn't the diesel surge forward in 1st @ 7/8mph??

@downthegardenpath

5 жыл бұрын

@@ellasnannie1233 I can shift into 1st from 6mph in a Diesel A4. That doesn't mean every car is the same.

My brakes don't work when the engine is off/after car stalls. It's sucks because stalling is quite rare and I'd find it easier to quickly jump to the brake like an emergency stop than think oh shit?? Oh yeah handbrake. Dunno...

My instructor told me when slowing down not to change gear until I know which gear I need

I liked the video, but from the point of view of your car, you are basically, using the cars gearbox, clutch plate, as the braking force (control speed), side effects of are, your break light will not be coming on, and the problems that's going to cause, on the road. then you may have also stop unexpectedly, back to your car maintenance (was alway lead to believe you where meant to match the rotating speed, of the clutch plate to that of the disk pad, as much as possible, to keep (the clutch failing to quickly) in use, so when you are slowing down, something is always being warn away (also brakes are a lot easy are to service (cheaper) than gear-box / clutch, (which is a lot more expensive). so pick cheap brake pads or expensive clutch disk-pad (more so with older cars)

@ashley_neal

5 жыл бұрын

That's not the case. Every time the car was slowed down to suit the 2nd gear speed. It's also the opposite of what you mention about brake lights not coming on (have another watch, as I try to get the pupil to continue braking until control is passed back to the gear by lifting the clutch). The only thing you are correct on is that brake pads are cheaper to repair. Thanks. Ashley.

Could you possibly do a video on why it is dangerous to hog the 2nd lane of a motorway and why it carries a £100 fine. too many times do I have to cross 2 lanes of traffic to overtake someone doing 60 in the 2nd lane

When is the heel and toe tutorial coming?

@collinslfc

5 жыл бұрын

Probably not on a channel aimed at learner drivers or newly qualified drivers. They have enough to think about without complicating matters using racing style driving techniques.

@OTPulse

5 жыл бұрын

@@collinslfc it's very handy when towing loads up hill if you have to drop back a gear.

@collinslfc

5 жыл бұрын

@@OTPulse I'm not denying that heel and toe shifting is a good driving technique, of course it is. But it's a much more advanced driving skill which wouldn't be expected from a learner driver or even an average driver for that matter.

@OTPulse

5 жыл бұрын

@@collinslfc I was adding a place that it helps a lot were a new driver might use it that's not related to Race car driving. Like an under powered cheap car climbing a steep hill.

@downthegardenpath

5 жыл бұрын

@@OTPulse Why would you be breaking going up hill and needing to shift down? I think you're confusing rev matching with heel and toe breaking.

Did you notice that person who passed you on the junction just after 5 minutes, kept going on the wrong side of the road?

@WaldoBC

4 жыл бұрын

Did you notice at 4:54 that he was turning onto a one-way?

My instructor luckily explained this extremely well to me in my first lesson. Only stalled once, and that was on a hill. Nowadays i tend to know when to gear down and slow down. Shame the white van drivers dont know how to respect learners who actually slow down for corners -_-

3:04 why take it out of gear? Clutch down restart and off we go no?

@ashley_neal

5 жыл бұрын

That's a good shout but in my car selecting neutral activates the start automatically. This I suspect is a way of ensuring the stall hasn't been caused by the wrong gear selection. Thanks. Ashley

@elliotmadgwick6850

5 жыл бұрын

I think it's just a good habit to get into as there wasn't any time pressure. It's better to get used to changing to neutral first so that the car doesn't run away someday and cause a crash.

@mikel4663

5 жыл бұрын

@@elliotmadgwick6850 well he's teaching quite advanced techniques which is also great to see but I do think all this hand brake neutral, restart, back in 1st hand brake off is a little pointless..I find it's more pressure on pupils and prolongs the stall and therefore more pressure...hand brake on, clutch down restart gas and clutch bite ready and we're off. Never had a pupil crash doing that in 17yrs and it's what I do and never a problem. Good channel btw

@mikel4663

5 жыл бұрын

@@ashley_neal good channel btw, modern tech I suppose. I have the A3, hate the automatic hand brake so its off, the clutch bite releases the hand brake way to early on really steep hills...give me my 306hdi back any day!

@ashley_neal

5 жыл бұрын

Good to see you teach to what is required 👍 Still so many instructors say handbrake/neural/restart is a must 🤔 Thanks for your comments. Ashley

I feel like most videos on KZread make the test out to be scarier, more strict and generally involving more than it actually does. Sitting in the room I shat myself waiting for the bloke to come out and announce my name and had flash backs from all the KZread videos about everything that must be carried out and also the fact that although the person is a human they are there for their job. Then once I got into my car at was as if the person barely cared compared to what these videos had been telling me that it would be like. It really isn’t that bad and I only picked up one minor during it so either I was a much better driver than I thought it or tests have changed dramatically compared to what instructors thought they were.

Starts video... hoping for some heel-toe action ;)

@Red.be89

5 жыл бұрын

Not even a mention of rev matching! Bloody learner drivers... :P

Heel toe on streets?

It's called engine braking

360p gang here!

@ashley_neal

5 жыл бұрын

Vikingboar takes a bit for KZread to catch up if I publish soon after upload. Sorry, it will get there 👍

@ashley_neal

5 жыл бұрын

Full monty now 👍

I passed my test in the early eighties. I was taught to match the gear to the road speed. Decades later, when having advanced lessons, I was told to leave the gears alone while slowing!

@myapinion7532

4 жыл бұрын

Same here, only it was the 70s. I was taught to go down to third gear then down to second, then if have to stop, down to first. My son did a few years as an ADI and he's been going with me to do refresher lessons, and he keeps saying keep your hands on the wheel, and just brake gently then change from 4th to 2nd when closer to the junction. Completely different to how l was taught. Old habits die so hard too. But lm getting there.