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Typical Van Man and I hope the Maroon Focus driver didn't get into too much trouble.
I used to drive in quite a 'spirited' fashion when I shared a Fiesta with my housemate, but since getting my first Jag (I've had three now), I've driven in a far more relaxed and smooth manner. Then, when I became an executive chauffeur, that driving style solidified in me. Even though I haven't been a chauffeur for many years, I still drive as though I've got a high profile client in the back. Everything's very smooth and deliberate, and if ever it's not, I curse myself like mad, lol!
When driving quickly, it is best to keep both hands on the wheel and not wave them about Ashley!
One thing that I think a lot of people don't appreciate (or forgot, or don't know) on roads like this is that all the corners are different shapes and that affects how fast (or indeed how slow) you can go through them. I suspect most incidents are caused when the corner changes shape halfway through.... AND also the shape of the corner is different from the other direction. A case in point (if one misjudged it) is a right hand bend that tightens half way through. Traffic coming the other way has an opening left hand bend so will be potentially accelarating out of it quite quickly. We on the other hand have gone in too quickly and are checking up on the exit.
We need to make sure we share this one. Ashley drove in a spirited way on British roads and now needs new suspension. 😆
Drive to your ability and the conditions, (road, and weather). Respect other road users. That way, you'll reach your destination safely, and so will everyone else.
The last - and only(?) - time I have seen a spirited drive on here was in your BMW M3. I seem to recall that traction control was permanently on. I've come to the conclusion that you can have more fun driving a slow car quickly as opposed to being forced into driving a performance car slowly. Admittedly the line is drawn at a Citroën 2CV....... That would be torture 😮. I prefer rear wheel drive. Why is that? Several reasons. 1) Better balance in general [50:50 front/rear weight]. 2) Less chance of suffering from understeer. Granted - oversteer is a risk. 3) No "torque steer". With reference to point 3 @Ashley - do you get this under heavy acceleration? I'm aware that some cars do have a Limited Slip Diff that helps to negate this but it is not always offered. Stay safe out there.
The golden rule is that it's a speed LIMIT, when safe to do so, not a minimum speed target!
I love you use of 'Spirited' . Been a long time since I could find a low / no traffic place where I felt I could safely let the needle creep up. Your emphasis on reading the road surface is lacking by most drivers here in the USA (blame Automatics for some of that, as there is little reason to anticipate a gear change)
Just stop oil warriors will not be watching this!😂😂😂😂😂
As a cyclist i don't like to be next to a car when there is a risk a car could turn into my path. Even as a car driver i don't trust anyone else to not cut me up. I will always try to put my position within the visible sight of road users, keeping out of the blind spot as much as possible.
Back in 2011 I was cycling straight on, a car overtook me turned left taking me out, I was badly injured but survived, the police did not prosecute but as I’m in the ctc my insurance claimed off the motorist. This has left a lasting impression on me and I no longer cycle in towns and often get off at junctions. Best wishes Jim thanks for all you’re videos.
Just toke it like a bitch 😂
The DVLA can communicate, when your vehicle tax is due. When it comes to road safety, they don't care.
Excellent response from the cam driver. Could have made things a little easier for himself by backing off a little earlier to make sure they remain out of a blond spot. As for the other driver. What the hell? Crash for cash is a reasonable guess without knowing more factors such as drugs etc.
That camera’s pretty crap, overheated twice if not more times in the 2 videos I remember
Cammer played stupid games, won stupid prizes. Window smasher played stupid games and got lucky. You can only get beaten to death at the roadside once. Don't let it be over getting tailgated.
6:57 that was the only minor point when I did the IAM test, that I missed a overtaking 'opportunity'. It was a similar situation, a long line of traffic on a country road and the 'opportunity' was fleeting to say the least; probably only someone familiar with the road would have attempted and it was the first time I'd driven it. Ultimately pointless anyway, not worth the additional pollution.
I find it disturbing that in the UK it is absolutely forbidden to run a red light to make room for an emergency vehicle. In France the golden rule is you are expected to do everything in your power to make room for an emergency vehicle. And if there is no other solution, you can run the red as long as you are careful enough and make sure that those who have the green have stopped. The only thing that is forbidden when an emergency vehicle is involved is creating another accident. You can run the red, cross a solid line, even climb the curb. As long as nobody is hurt. And of course if there is a bus lane or hard shoulder we all expect the emergency vehicle to use it.
Christ they need to sort that 30 sign out at 23:00.
Driving instructor admits to speeding 🫣🤷🏼♂️!?!?
👆 Joking by the way 😉
This is very much the kind of driving I do almost all the time: country roads, on and off of major roads (my current commutes are from near Weymouth to outside Bridport, or the opposite direction to Blandford or Salisbury), very mixed levels of traffic, including a lot of farm vehicles. I agree totally with the questioning of the emphasis of 'making good progress' by some organisations. A driver should, _must,_ be able to overtake safely when it's required (so, so many cannot), but it's so rarely of any particular advantage - or legal. These days, I'm happy to conduct myself in a nice gap, paying particular attention to the multitude of potential hazards. Every now and then - and often on decent A roads, I see someone making 'fast' progress - often illegally, and almost always with little awareness. They're the ones whom I expect consider themselves far above average, but in truth, are significantly below. My view is, in our vernacular, lerrum gerron weeyit. We have a horrifying casualty rate round here. Factors that have changed my previous 'spirited' form of driving: cost of fuel; constant need to brake rather than merely slow; almost incessant streams of traffic; so many speed limits; the number of complete morons about; and the horrible road surfaces. I choose my car purchases accordingly.
0:15 sorry mate, I almost forgot to ask, is it ok to stop on the yellow zigzag lines if you’re in a stationary queue of traffic? Some driving instructors say yes and some say no but I think it’s the same with all clearways, don’t stop unless it’s outside of your control, like last year for example, I was driving home from work on a 24 hour clearway but I had to stop because there were roadworks and a stationary queue of traffic and a red traffic light, please correct me if I’m wrong but I think all no stopping clearways are the same, don’t stop except for reasons outside of your control.
09:58 - would you say that's a risky join from the van? Surely the van turning in will have blocked the view somewhat. Just because someone is turning off a dual carriage does not mean the way is clear enough to emerge without impeding traffic.
Ashley, have you completed your IAM training? I’ve noticed some of your terminology such as limit points is something you’re taught on an advanced driving course
I'm fleet trained and I am well-versed in roadcraft.
@@ashley_nealnice one. If everyone had a read through roadcraft and applied some of the principles the roads would be a much better place, especially chapter one
Hi mate, honestly I felt quite sad when you said you don’t really enjoy driving much these days but I totally understand why you say that, it’s because you’re a driving instructor and you drive day in and day out, it can get very boring and very repetitive doing the same thing day in and day out, I completely agree with everything that you said in the video, just because you have a powerful sports car it doesn’t mean that you can always put your foot down and floor it everywhere, like you said you have to always have safety in your mind and drive to what you can see, reduce your speed when you can’t see and increase your speed when you can see but always thinking in your mind what if there is a pedestrian walking on the road around this corner where I can’t see, I think it’s very important to make as much progress as you possibly can but always have safety in your mind as your number 1 priority and concern, I’m not the perfect driver and nobody is but thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos, honestly they educate us more than you’ll ever know and I’m so grateful and so thankful for that mate. 👍 🙃
If your job was an accountant studying spreadsheets etc, would you go home and after supper say ' I think I'll relax by having a look at some other spreadsheets"?!! Bit of a bus man's holiday!
This is the reason why I try not to comment too much on KZread videos, you always get stupid silly replies.
@@WayneTulip-zm9gw perhaps you might like to elaborate on why you think that was a stupid, silly reply.
Think they were playing with there mobile because in my opinion if they were playing Cash for Crash they would continued coming across to the line of your viewer. But once the were brought back to reality they corrected and sped up before changing lanes
Most STs aren't driven by driving instructors, they're driven by people with more ego than skill. I'm always wary of these types of vehicles.
All the more reason to keep city centers vehicle free. I’m just back from Germany, they have it sorted.
I used to drive everywhere on two wheels. I was lucky and have never had an accident (or caused one to my knowledge), but with age, and a job as a trade plate driver that demands I drive long distances, in new cars that don't belong to me, I have found the joy and stress free existence that awaits those who drive defensively and at or below the limit. Generally roads are so busy that the car that tore past you half an hour earlier ends up just in front of you at the next junction. I still enjoy driving, and I still enjoy driving my car fast when conditions allow, but in terms of stress levels, for both the car and driver, it's better to sit back and enjoy the ride!
20:52... amazing... I move out early to see around the corner before committing, but never thought of saying out extra long to let the other car know it's clear.
Ashley have you heard of a channel called "Mick Drives Cars"? He essentially does videos on safe spirited driving, quite similar to what you were doing on the B road at the start of the video. I would be interested to hear your thoughts about his driving
I've challenged Mick a couple of times on some of the things he talks about. Don't follow his advice.
@@ashley_nealI agree, i’ve seen him drive on the other side of the road on a blind bend, and recommending tailgating to request faster speed or better land discipline, quite unsafe. Not everything he says is wrong though. Could be fun to make a video analysing him, i’m sure the algorithm would like it lol
@@GamerLad98I've just watched one video and it seems typical on other videos, but his hand positioning on the steering wheel is comoletely wrong. Most of the time he has only one hand on the wheel as he is gesticulating so much, and secondly when he does have two hands the position is always below 'quarter to three' when the correct position is 'ten to two'. He could easily be prosecuted for driving most of the time with just one hand on the wheel - 'driving without due care and attention'.
Nah, nowadays, I like to take it easy. Spirited drives can be fun but I need to be a 100% sure it's safe and worth it. + I don't really like the added fuel consumption and wear on components of my car.
6:54 my rule about overtaking is my "the 20mph rule" - IF IT IS 100% SAFE - I need to be ABLE to go 20mph faster than what I am overtaking. Basically on a NSL road the overtakee needs to be going 40mph or less. On a 50mph road the overtakee needs to be going 30mph or less. For me that means tractors (or really slow vehicles), horses, cyclists and that is about it. Other cars.... nah, it is never worth the risk IMHO (unless they are going really slowly).
more likely distracted driving
6:22 the camera may distort, but IMHO that is a little close to tailgating.
Definitely not
3:56, enjoyment from driving. It easy to get pessimistic over the clogged roads full of traffic and think back to the days when the roads seemed to be half empty, except that wasn’t the case, When I think back to the 1970’s I have memories of being stuck in the back seat in stationary traffic queues with dad driving us to holiday spots, uncomfortable seats, windows open because it is hot as hell, everyone getting irritable and bad tempered. And now I think about a 6 hrs journey I did last Xmas, stuck in horrendous traffic on the M25 and then roads chock a block for the rest of the way, and I remember sitting there in a big comfy seat, with air conditioning, nice music playing on an excellent sound system, cruise control, and thinking to myself, this ain’t so bad and arriving at the other end in good spirits and quite relaxed. And then a couple of weeks ago while at work I took a short cut through the South Downs in the middle of the day, the roads were almost empty, it was sunny, and I thoroughly enjoyed the drive Thinking “you know what, I am getting paid to do this”
Yes, I'm a trade plate driver, I too was enjoying a quiet drive over the South Downs and the Surrey Hills in a new Audi A4 S Line, enjoying the drive and the fabulous scenery!
Great to see this drive on my local roads. Live round the corner from where he started off, use those lanes almost every day getting to work. Pot-holes are a nightmare though so never give it too much clout!
Ashley might actually get more enjoyment from driving a small "zippy" NA 1.4l car around the country roads, than his wider (and heavier) Ford or Golf GTI. Those are better suited to tracks than country roads (for safe, spirited driving).
I think on a multi lane roundabout with multi lane entrance and exit you should keep to the same lane on joining and exiting. If you want to change lane do it within the roundabout, not at the junction. I have seen people join and exit across lanes, and those people sometimes have no awareness of anything around them. So they risk an accident. Wait till you have a stable view of your surroundings before switching.
Responsibility
I’d be interested to see how you drive on the Isle of Man and national speed limits over there
I tend not to drive fast to make progress, I more do it for fun since I drive a low power car (less than 100hp) it's quite fun to use all the power and go the grand heights of the speed limit
While the cammer did drive uncesserily agressive, you'd have to have some serious rage porblems to smash someones window for that. Cammer is definitely winning this one with the police and insurance.
At 31:26 when Ashley brakes heavily for the tractor I was expecting a very quick check in the centre mirror.
I know who's around all the time.
@ashley_neal exactly. Driving instructors (I don't know if you do, Ashley) will sometimes cover the rear view mirror and ask the learner what is behind them. If they don't know then they haven't been keeping a constant check in the mirrors to know what is behind them.
The last time I drove proper spirited was a few months ago when we got a phone call to say a family member was unwell. I didn’t break any speed limits, I didn’t tailgate and didn’t take unnecessary risks but did accelerate quicker than usual and used more of the lane around corners. The journey was 6 miles and roughly the same journey time as driving normally just with added cognitive loads throughout…hence why I don’t drive that way all the time as it is more tiring than it is enjoyable
I've done experiments over a 158 mile journey (multiple times). The difference from "normal" steady driving, to "spirited" driving, was, at best, 12-15 minutes. We're talking all road types incorporated, from motorway to mountains. Never broke a speed limit, or cut corners, but overtook when possible and accelerated to speed limits as soon as safe. Fun, but not so good for economy and not so mechanically sympathetic.
I'm the same nowadays. I used to clock up miles for enjoyment, but now driving is to get me somewhere I need to be.
11:13 *Poor lane discipline* 🙄
It's safe and recommended if you use effective observations, of which Ashley clearly does. You don't have to stick dead centre to your lane on every roundabout.
Would staying in the middle of lane one have increased risk with the vehicles potentially emerging? @richy_rude stop driving so routinely and adapt what you were doing to suit your surroundings.
If their driving looks erratic… then why sit in their blind spot?
Excellent video Ashley and noticing more sensible speed limits on country roads. National speed limi no longer makes and perhaps should be 40. Appreciate your reminder about driving to the road not the speed limit keeping alert to all risks.