The key to good observation is that it is not a single action but a continuous process. Look and keep looking.

What doesn't help are the roundabouts with missing or faded markings; it's bad enough on multi-lane ones when you're not sure where you should be. Not having definite guides can lead to you inadvertently encroaching on other's space.

I feel like most accidents and near misses (or at least quite a lot of them, in my experience) come from people trying not to make a wrong turn, or in the case of roundabouts, make the right turn first try. I'll admit, I have, occasionally, been around roundabouts twice because sometimes mistakes happen and I'd rather go around again than potentially end up getting ran over. Even on large roundabouts with lights it only takes a few minutes, much less time than dealing with an accident, although I suppose people like the car driver in this clip don't consider than they too could get into an accident...

@chrisl1797

13 күн бұрын

That is the biggest reason why accidents happen "it couldn't happen to me"

Hi Ashley, just a note to say thanks for all the great content and advice, it played a massive part in me passing my test (no recordable faults) yesterday! Staying tuned in.

@ashley_neal

13 күн бұрын

Great job!

Fantastic job making this one a non-event!

I tend to avoid indicating on roundabouts with defined lanes like these, rather than the usual right signal for going around and left for exiting, due to the confusion this can cause. I reserve signalling for lane changing only

@ibs5080

13 күн бұрын

I'm actually "on the fence" on deciding whether to give the "text book" signalling on these multi lane roundabouts or do as you do and only signal a lane change. I totally see your point either way.

@smilerbob

13 күн бұрын

I am similar with two exeptions… If the lane I am in can be two exits, I will signal right to show my intentions and avoid anyone waiting to emerge thinking I am taking the first exit Conversly, if I am exiting at the first exit I will signal left to again show intent and that allows those emerging to be prepared to emerge when I exit…because they shouldn’t emerge based upon a signal 😉

@R0ssMM

13 күн бұрын

@@smilerbob Yeah, I think indicating left in lane 1 is never an issue and helps people emerging like you say, so is a good idea

@ibs5080

13 күн бұрын

@@smilerbob Have been meaning to catch up on your videos and comment. Will get around to it. Greetings from Birmingham. Heading back to Canterbury today, just enjoying a late check-out at the hotel. Mum had a medical episode yesterday, which I mentioned at top level comments. Hope all is well with you and family.

@Leo99929

13 күн бұрын

@@smilerbob I think you're signalling right to try and combat people who don't signal left. Two wrongs don't make a right? Your indication suggests to people on your right that you have checked your mirrors and blind spot, decided it was clear, and intend to move into their lane. That could cause some panic braking or swerving. Pulling out into a round about in front of a person who hasn't indicated that they are leaving the round about is reckless.

Aside rules, awareness and observation is imperative. The motorbike rider did an excellent job! This is why head/shoulder checks are so important when moving left or right with such a large amount of space. Great work from your viewer. Thanks for the video as always, Ashley. :)

I thought this was handled well by the cammer. I'm always cautious when passing queuing traffic, especially if it's on my right. I try my best never to hinder someone who is trying to exit the roundabout, or move to a different lane - much as I hope others would not deliberately hinder me. Mostly, it just requires good observation, but sometimes, slowing or even stopping is required. One of the more difficult things I encounter regularly on roundabouts is having to drive through the queue - so people who are queuing across the route I need to take. Many drivers are happy to leave a gap, but sometimes you just have to slot through where you can, being super careful about people coming round who have a free flow. The good thing about roundabouts, not that I'm suggesting it should be an option, is that collisions when they do occur are normally at low-to-very low speeds. This is their big advantage over traffic lights.

@smilerbob

13 күн бұрын

One thing about being cautious around queuing traffic is it gives yountine should someone wish to change lanes, roundabout or straight road. It also helps when moving away from lights to be cautious and staggered should the driver in the lane next to you suddenly decide to avoid the queue and change lanes without looking

Are we just going to ignore the handlebar ornaments

@rufusgreenleaf2466

13 күн бұрын

Yes

@gingernutpreacher

13 күн бұрын

Shhhhh

@user-ig1xo3om2x

13 күн бұрын

Unless you explain what you mean, definitely.

9 күн бұрын

Rem best girl

Seems like a place for this personal account. I was on the A814 Westbound in Dumbarton, and had entered the roundabout at 55.945205, -4.566756 (centrepoint from Bing Maps; roundabout has 2 lanes). I intended to proceed round to Strathleven Place - Bonhill Road (no road number) and was passing the A814 westbound exit, when the (using "P" plates; did they get their licence in a QR code draw? 😉 ) about 2 feet in front of my bumper cut half across my lane before leaving up the B830 (Church Street - Townend Road). Anyway, kudos to Ashley because I just know he's the main reason we weren't partially overlapped there.

A couple of phrases spring to mind “Green doesn’t mean go” and “Have I been seen?” Also people need to remember to be aware of vehicles already on the roundabout and that drivers may not be signalling correctly or in the correct lane for the exit OK, this example was someone avoiding the queue but still assuming the above will avoid and conflict 👍

@Leo99929

13 күн бұрын

I totally agree, apart from the car took a different exit to the one they were queueing for, so it's not certain if they were avoiding a queue, or just realised they were in the wrong lane... Not that that ultimately matters.

@kenbrown2808

13 күн бұрын

then the one my dad drummed into me, "don't be dead right."

Impressed with the rider's observations, I'd have been too distracted by the handlebar ornament's giggling

@greenysmoto

11 күн бұрын

sadly the 🍒 have broken off now :( 🤣🤣

I've negotiated big multi lane roundabouts where it's perfectly correct to take the "3 O Clock" exit (or slight variations of) from either one of the two most right hand lanes. I've been in the left hand lane of the two most right hand lanes and indicating right on the approach as well as the initial part of the roundabout...and had a driver in the right most lane sound their horn, presumably worried that my right signal might mean I am changing lanes rather than simply an indication that I'm intending to turn right but remain in my existing lane. But if I didn't indicate, no one would know if I'm intending to use that lane to turn right or leave by the straight ahead exit. Except until i give a left signal one exit prior. Assuming that I'm the type of driver that would even do so, which others wouldn't know in advance.

@Leo99929

13 күн бұрын

I'm not saying this like a fact, happy to discuss it as I'm really not sure what's best; In my opinion you should indicate when you are leaving your lane. For example, crossing a lane marker. Definitely indicate when exiting a round about. Definitely indicate to show you intend to not go straight on or first exit when going around a small round about, or one with one lane, or unclear lanes. In other words, indicate right when taking the 3 O clock exit on most round abouts. An exception to this would be multilane round abouts like you might find on a motorway, which might have traffic lights on the round about. If you indicate right on that and you aren't in the right hand lane, then I would take that as unclear if you intend to change lanes, or continue to the 3 o clock exit. If you don't indicate then you should be staying in your lane until you DO indicate. I see the problem lies with those people who don't indicate, or indicate after/whilst manoeuvring. But I don't see indicating right when intending to stay in your lane as helpful communication. I already treat others as if they might be in the wrong lane and stagger. Someone having their indicator on is just drawing my attention to them, away from the other potential hazards, when you're saying that indication means that you aren't going to do anything unexpected?! Doesn't make sense to me.

@speedstyle.

12 күн бұрын

It's fine to use your right signal to continue round the roundabout. The beep could've even been because they were sliding left and thought you did change lanes.

Agree, roundabout and multi lane rules together with lost sat nav drivers or motorists not familiar with layout a challenge. Add the missing lane markings and ambiguous signs beforehand, chaos reigns😅. I also feel that the UK has an inconsistent approach in junction layouts, priority 0:32 markings, cycle lane/ bus stop positioning, even police cars look differently painted ( or taped up as rented and not bought by poor authorities😅), and emergency vehicles have chaoticly different horns, dependent from which coubtry bought or equipped. Almost as funny a mixture of the Paraguayan army, which was cobbled together from 25 different foreign cheap left over stock 😅.

It is why driving in a staggered formation will be the safest option

I wonder how many problems at roundabouts are caused by satnav systems telling the driver to select a particular lane on the approach to the roundabout which is wrong lane? I don't use satnav myself (I don't like some annoying voice barking orders at me, and I tend to either know where I'm going, or make an effort to plan my route before setting off), so don't know whether people let the satnav take precedence over the road signs? Having recently sat in with someone newly passing her test, I asked her to just follow the signs to XXX, and she got totally flustered as she was so used to the instructor telling where to go, or his satnav doing it for her. Do instructors not do lessons where the student has to take a route without verbal instructions? When I was learning 30+ years ago, my instructor would tell me where we're driving to at the start of the lesson and expect me to know how to get there.

@johnkeepin7527

12 күн бұрын

It’s probably sometimes caused by using out of date map data on older sat-nav kit, especially when the layout has changed. That is with local map data installed, rather than using online maps located remotely. The other problem can be when the map data on this site (Google Maps) is also out of date, if one uses it to learn the route before travelling. When there are significant alterations on the ground, it can easily be wrong, and even has versions that change as you zoom in! Tends to happen when they haven’t updated the overhead view, but have changed the “streetview” entry. Usually sorts itself out, but can take as much as a year, in my experience recently.

One issue with these big multi lane roundabouts: Some of them are so called Spiral roundabouts whereby you enter a particular lane for your destination and if you stay in it, it takes you to your intended exit. No lane change nessessary. Yet other multi lane roundabouts are not spiral roundabouts and lane changes are needed to get to your exit. It's not always obvious which type of roundabout you are dealing with at the onset and I've been caught by surprise at unfamiliar roundabouts. Perhaps a new sign should be developed to indicate on the approach the type of roundabout. Spiral or regular.

@davem9204

13 күн бұрын

I get the impression road planners don't really know what they are doing when it comes to roundabouts. They should stick to one approach to reduce this confusion. I think the spiral approach makes more sense, so you approach in the correct lane for the exit you want and the lane spirals out to the exit you want. So no need to change lanes on the roundabout if you've selected the correct one initially.

@TheSGRob

12 күн бұрын

i've personally never seen a roundabout that's got more than 2 lanes that isn't spiral, that sounds dangerous. Can you tell me where some of these roundabouts you're talking about are, i'd love to take a look at them on google maps

@ibs5080

12 күн бұрын

@@TheSGRob I just got back from a trip to Birmingham but yes I'd be happy to give you coordinates of examples in due course. I'll get back to you soon.

@ibs5080

9 күн бұрын

@@TheSGRob Apologies for the delayed reply but here goes. One example that comes to mind is the motorway junction of the M25 and the A2. Specifically: - In Google Maps go to around 51.42488245367183, 0.23707713470731295 - Descriptively, its travelling anti-clockwise on the M25, approaching the Dartford tunnel. - Take M25 J2 exit - It's known as the Darenth Interchange - Intending to take the 3rd roundabout exit for the A2 eastbound towards Canterbury - If you go to Street View and follow the entire path around the roundabout, you'll get a good idea of the layout and signage - One computer technicality: As you scroll along, the Street View might get confused and take you onto the M25 above the roundabout, so you might have to navigate your cursor back down to the roundabout - From the slip road, as per signage, you can use either of the two right hand lanes for the A2 at 3rd exit towards Canterbury - The issue is, it's not immediately obvious as you go around, that you need to shift over to what is now either one of the two left lanes. You really need to do this before the final set of traffic lights for the intersection of the roundabout you are on and the last approach road before your exit. - If you don't shift left at the right time, you will find yourself in either one of two right turn lanes to continue around the roundabout, as opposed to either one of the two left lanes for your intended exit. This is particularly difficult to correct if that last traffic light is red, with traffic gathering in the adjacent lanes. Even more difficult if you are in the rightmost of the two right turn lanes! - As well as Street View, do also have a look at the Aerial View of the roundabout. - It's definitely not a Spiral Roundabout and yet it has up to four lanes in places. Do have a look at the entire path through the roundabout from the slip road I mentioned and all the way to the exit for the A2 eastbound. I'd be interested to know your thoughts.

@TheSGRob

9 күн бұрын

@@ibs5080 looks like a Spiral roundabout to me, just so happens that the yellow box and all the space after it where there's no road markings is when you need to spiral out.

We need more videos about private hire taxis in Liverpool. Especially Wolverhampton plates & delta taxis. Good video ❤

The roundabout/lane debate is certainly a point to mention. It's certainly poor planning if you need to cut across 2 lanes to get to your exit on a roundabout, just as it would be poor planning to cut across 2 lanes to come off a motorway. The problem with roundabouts is being in the left-most lane on a Roundabout is also a decision on which exit you are taking, which this channel has pointed out is very dangerous to opt-out of, especially when two lanes can take that exit.

I love this camera angle, you can see the blind spot

An indication from the QQ would have been nice, but they moved early and it was an easy spot. Passing stationary traffic on the left or right has to be done carefully no matter where you are. I'm sure someone would be screaming "it's priority to the right!" because it's a roundabout, but in this scenario you are right that priorities are not clear. It's then down to who was the most careful when performing the manoeuvre. I'd give that prize to the biker for being the most aware, although they should be as they had the best view.

Moor Farm roundabout, notorious for people deliberately going in the wrong lane to jump a queue then changing lane halfway round regardless of what is around them 🤬🤬🤬

@CRUDEDriving

13 күн бұрын

We have plenty of deliberate queue jumpers here in Melbourne, Australia in general. I get them every time I'm heading home after work on a 3 lane multi-lane road where the 2 left lanes go on to the freeway toward the country and the 1 right lane goes on to the freeway toward the city. This can cause chaos with traffic!

@R0ssMM

13 күн бұрын

Hanger Lane Interchange going from anticlockwise North Circular to Westbound A40 is another terrible one. Two exit lanes but three lanes of people try to push into them

@TheSGRob

12 күн бұрын

i avoided it when it had problems with the traffic lights recently. It's an accident hot spot at the best of times, no way i'm tackling that when the lights are out.

The driver was moving before the bike entered the roundabout and entered the lane behind the truck before the bike did so however you look at it the driver had priority and the biker should have waited and did wait.

white car according to a driving instructor should go round the roundabout again as in the wrong lane to start with

A High- Viz Jacket might help a bit…?..

Local authorities are not maintaining white lines in these traffic systems, anyone’s guess as to where you’re supposed to be!

Good learning point. I'll rewatch it again as I'm in quite a state right now. Mum had a bit of a medical episode here at the hotel in Birmingham yesterday. I found her collapsed in the shower and I honestly thought I'd lost her for good. Never been so scared in all my life. And yes we will get her checked out. Spent all day at the hotel yesterday just resting. Heading back to Canterbury today and I've requested a late hotel check-out. They've given us till 3 pm rather than the usual 12 noon, no extra charge. Still debating whether to go to Blenheim Palace Flower show next weekend. Many of you know we love to attend many events, though it's been a bit of a challenge since my mum fell down the stairs and broke her wrist 9 weeks ago. Take care everyone...and yes I'll comment on this actual video in due course as well as the previous one which I viewed yesterday with great interest re Viewer Fails. Particularly liked the clip with the viewer finding they were in an unintended left turn lane and the way they corrected it.

@christopherl1864

13 күн бұрын

All the best to you both. 👍

@ibs5080

13 күн бұрын

@@christopherl1864 Thank You kindly. I'm still shaking from yesterday's incident but at least my mum is up and walking now, albeit slowly.

@ashley_neal

13 күн бұрын

Look after her Ibrahim, as I'm sure you will.

@bestintheworld568

13 күн бұрын

Hope your mum is okay! All the best.

@ibs5080

13 күн бұрын

@@ashley_neal Thank You Ashley. Will do. Including driving as smoothly as a chauffeur!