Deep gratitude to all of those who make these possible. Life saving information. And most thanks to you, Matt, for finding a way to have that much fun and be of service to your fellow earthlings at the same time!

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you !

I cannot thank you enough for sharing your hard work here on KZread. You my friend are helping the common man make educated decisions on the caliber of EDC as well as the type and brand of body armor they can choose from. I personally enjoy each and every video that you upload. I always hit the thumbs up 👍 immediately when the video starts because I know damn well that the quality and information contained in the video will be extremely helpful information. Thank you, seriously….. thank you for sharing!

Never have I ever had more perfect timing

I love that you used Extreme Shock Ammo's packaging graphics from back in the day for the thumbnail!

I'm impressed too. Their carriers could use some work but I'm always impressed at reviews of their armor.

Awesome test! That's some good looking and interesting armor, thanks!

Impressive plate… Good coverage and seems like it stands up to its rating very well. Very cool 😎. Great work as always Matt.

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

Nice, finally a test of the TSG Extreme plate! Thanks for your work :)

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome. Sorry that it takes me a long time.

@-Turtl3_

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuffRANGE Oh man, don't be sorry for that! I appreciate every test you do and it's really nice to have high quality KZread channels like yours here :) Hope that it keeps growing and that it can help you to have a good income in the future if KZread doesn't say no to that lol.

Always appreciate your work.

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

Your channel is amazing and a wealth of information. You must test the 3S9M!

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

It’s is power level over 9000? It has two ++

If I recall correctly the scorpion extreme three plus is actually poly and aramid there's no ceramic I stand corrected. I wonder if mine has ceramic

Thanks Buff! You said to let you know about further testing - how about a fast, light, all copper 5.56 commercial offering? Something like a 45 or 55 TSX - midway has the 62gr TSX Vor-TX Ammo in stock right now. I think an all-copper loaded fast from your 22" barrel might have the best chance of getting through. It would be an interesting video to see which commercially available copper bullets one could load fast enough to get through these plates.

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

I've used the 52gr TSX and it only excels at penetrating steel.

I got the tactical scorpion level 3+ lightweight with their Bearcat carrier. I got extra side plates so I can test it out but it seems good. The plate carrier not so good. The pocket for the side plates are too small you can't seal with the plates in, the shoulder straps use Velcro and clips but the Velcro isn't strong enough to hold it so it slips down so the plates don't stay in the proper position. Maybe their other models of carries are better but based of mine I'd recommend getting the plate carrier somewhere else if you buy their armor

Now that I actually have a few mags of M855A1, everytime I see an armor test with it I hope it goes through lol

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

Heheh :$

Man that's f***** u* you had me so excited. I thought extreme shock was coming back.

Happy I have a pair of these.

@BuffRANGE

Жыл бұрын

Nice!

You'd be the best shooting buddy Thanks for the information bud, your videos are awesome.

The "Dog,s Bollocks" :-))

The physics involved in penetration.good show.

Love your tests. I see "fair hit" as anything that hits the plate. Bad guys don't care what is a fair hit so any hit counts. Also I get that you call a fair hit for the testing procedures.

How is the edges on these plates? Just straight foam or does the ceramic actually cover the stated size?

@BuffRANGE

Жыл бұрын

The ceramic on this model at least as of testing does not extend to the full stated size. So a 10x12 would have potentially 8x10 of ceramic coverage with the rest being a non ballistic material extending to the edge :D

Good data

Looking like the plates for me, threats I want to counter and 4lbs even with the small sapi cut so my back will thank me when I switch out my ancient Patriot Armor steel plates.

@BuffRANGE

Жыл бұрын

That's a name I haven't heard in awhile :D

That clay was saying oink oink

Matt any possibility of you testing level 3 icw plates?

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have a specific one in mind ?

What's the strongest level 4 plate you've tested to date??? Thank you

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

Probaly the RMA 1189 in terms of overall toughness.

@thealize808

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuffRANGE What is second then. Since the 1189 is no longer in production. I'm looking for new plates.

How would you compare this to the RMA 3+ RF2?

@BuffRANGE

3 ай бұрын

I'd say this is a more budget friendly option. If it had a full edge to edge strike face and better lamination I'd consider it it's equal.

What do you think of RMA 1155MC multi hit IV vs these? I realize these are 3+ extreme and the RMA 1155MC is actually cheaper and not really much heavier.

@BuffRANGE

Жыл бұрын

4 lbs is still a bit of weight. If you don't need to stop M2AP loads that's something to consider. If they updated for edge to edge protection it would make this plate a solid choice.

@midnightrider723

Жыл бұрын

@@BuffRANGE I actually went with the Tactical Scorpion Level IV PE/Silicone Ceramic after watching your video on it as they have a Labor Day sale and I got two sets (one for me and my son) for $1060. Thanks for your awesome videos and testing! As many have said before me, I’m shocked you don’t have a gazillion subscribers.

@BuffRANGE

Жыл бұрын

@@midnightrider723 Nice! I'm guessing the "armorking" discount code didn't work on top of their sale, but hard to argue with 4 plates for 1$K

Have u tested their level 4's? Bc there's not to many good tests of them (nvm u have tested)

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed I have :D

@clorox821

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuffRANGE could u tell me how much foam it had at the corners pls, the site doesn't have much info about that ik your video said it doesn't have edge to edge

I wish I could get me some body armor and better bullets.

60° Why are you wearing a coat? 🤪 another great test my friend.

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

When my sky heater goes away it gets cold :)

Do you like these or the Hesco 3810? Which would you say has better protection...Thank you

@TexasBroskiActual

2 жыл бұрын

Avoid Hesco. They have failed multiple safety audits, and have had to do recalls.

@thealize808

2 жыл бұрын

@@TexasBroskiActual how about bao tactical or highcom?

@TexasBroskiActual

2 жыл бұрын

@@thealize808 I am not sure about those. I contemplated getting Dayton and ShotStop, but ended up going with Scorpion LVL 4. You can get two sets for the price of one compared to those. Plus these have less deformation.

@TexasBroskiActual

2 жыл бұрын

@@thealize808 My thing about going super light weight like the active duty high speed guy which is who Dayton sells to is this: I’m a civilian concerned about defending my home. I’m not going to be sprinting through the woods or climbing mountains, so weighing 1-2 lbs more with better back face deformation protection is better suited for me. That deformation can break ribs and puncture a lung. If SHTF, ain’t nobody coming for you or me. Supreme Court ruled that the Police have NO OBLIGATION to protect you. Their obligation is protecting the govt. So I take back face deformation seriously lol.

@thealize808

2 жыл бұрын

@@TexasBroskiActual fair enough Rma 1155 mc would be a good choice

Ceramic if use 6 mm ( 0.236") will be better.

I would be sold on PE composite armor but for one thing. PE breaks down in extreme temperatures. I think they can only be in the range of -15F to 150F, which is good for most situations. However, where I am at I have had winters where it gets to -20F to -30F and summers as hot as 105F. If I was to leave it in a car at 105F it could be compromised. Were there tests done by anyone in these extreme conditions to see if they could still work after being exposed in extreme weather conditions? That would be neat if they could still work after at least some kind of exposure to extreme weather. If they did, I might give these a chance.

@BuffRANGE

4 ай бұрын

This is a data point that might interest you. I left 2 plates outside for 3 yrs: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y2GJp7OJYa22dso.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/dJx7msWIlcLVpc4.html

@anmu4918

4 ай бұрын

OK! Thank you!@@BuffRANGE

Ever thought about not shooting level 4 until the end?

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

I've thought about shot order before, but haven't given a lot of though into changing it.

What makes the extreme version different from the 3+?

@BuffRANGE

4 ай бұрын

The 3+ from TSG?

@AtroposLeshesis

4 ай бұрын

@@BuffRANGE yes from tactical scorpion

Rma 1092, or these tsg 3+ extreme?

@BuffRANGE

Жыл бұрын

That's a tough one. Both are very very capable, and I like how the TSG Xtreme has the front kevlar for frag containment. I do believe the 1092 handles .308 better

Anyone know how thick this plate is?

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

Right about 1”

thats the flattest plat ive ever seen

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

They sell flat ones :)

Why dont you ever see loads lighter than 55 grain .556?

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

They have 45-52gr copper loads. Any lighter and they’re basically varmint loads.

@crunch9876

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuffRANGE the super fast 40 grain has beeen shown to be almost AP

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

@@crunch9876 against steel. Ceramic and PE are different animals

@rfi-cryptolab4251

10 күн бұрын

​@@crunch9876 I shot a Hardwire L3 PE plate with Fort Scott 40gr 5.56 and it stopped it. 16" barrel from 30'.

Get a 26" .308

@BuffRANGE

3 ай бұрын

I did get a 24" :D

Number one right here 🙌🏼

Foam ring...yuck. Nevermind

4lb 15oz 😂 just say 5lb

@BuffRANGE

Жыл бұрын

Hey now 1oz is 1oz :)

@hamiam2659

Жыл бұрын

@@BuffRANGE Ounces equal pounds, and pounds equal pain right.

Pile of Shit. lvl 4 ceramic or save your money and buy one. You're never gonna get the "just as gud" for under 200 bucks. Spend the 1k, 2k ect. Value your life accordingly.

@BuffRANGE

3 ай бұрын

Why is is a pile of shit ? It did everything it was supposed to do within NIJ III spec.

Who the hell would wear that?

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

Well that depends? Are you saying you're not pleased with it's performance or lack thereof?

@GhostofSash1m1

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuffRANGE 6 inches of sloped armor works too but would anyone want to carry that around?

@thealize808

2 жыл бұрын

@@GhostofSash1m1 One can do wonders with 6"