This is incredible. NIJ needs to set some new standards in between the pistol and rifle ratings for these kind of plates, it's misleading that these are "3a" plates.

Haven't hardly started the video, but these test just fascinate me. Like an addiction, I seek these out.

Excellent report.

Nice! I realize this is an older video and the market has changed dramatically since, but to state the obvious if a person is getting into ceramic/PE now in late 2020, there's no reason to go any lower than Level III or Level IV. They're super cheap and not really much heavier. Of course even a few years ago when this was made that wasn't the case. Great videos, you're one of the subs I've stuck with the longest.🤘🇺🇸

@BuffRANGE

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for being a sub !

This plate definitely deals with velocity better than hardness. Interesting results.

@user-oy9zy4ds9m

6 жыл бұрын

And steel is the opposite. Ceramic is best except that it can't take near as many hits as steel or polyethylene

7N6!!!! Hell ya!

I think I'm more impressed with your ability to get your hands on SS190

That is absolutely impressive a plate that can stop rifle threats any hardened core will slice thro as shown I wonder how it would handle a slower but heavier projectile like 150 308 secondary density ?

@BuffRANGE

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah I should ask them if they've tested it against .308

@nicenangry

7 жыл бұрын

Buffman - R.A.N.G.E. Wouldn't hurt. Now if they can shape it into a helmet military contract? Lol

@user-oy9zy4ds9m

6 жыл бұрын

The military already has ordered tens of thousands of PE helmets rated to stop 7.62x39 and 5.56 and maybe 308 too not sure.

would love to see you do a rehash with M80 ball, the website claims it can stop 1-2 rounds, but it’d be neat to see the BFD, and also some of the steel core ammo with a soft armor backer, like you did with the L210.

@BuffRANGE

Жыл бұрын

They just talked about sending me a pair of these. :)

@Stroh874

Жыл бұрын

@@BuffRANGE i just picked up a set and am really impressed with them for what they provide. wondering if investing in some soft armor backers would add anything besides weight and bulk.

@JSM89889

Жыл бұрын

@@BuffRANGE I would love to see a test of this plate with soft armor behind it, I'm very curious to see if it works well as an ICW plate. I'm mostly concerned with green tip ammunition.

@BuffRANGE

Жыл бұрын

@@JSM89889 IIIa behind this would not stop M855.

@JSM89889

Жыл бұрын

@@BuffRANGE yeah, that's what I kinda figured with these types of plates and how they worked. Appreciate the quick response.

Worth repeating that this plate is 2.53 pounds and 0.8 inches thick. So for them to include the A in the rating is a bit odd since it's really closer to the weight and form factor of a normal UHMWPE rifle plate than anything you would normally consider Level IIIA.

@BuffRANGE

4 жыл бұрын

Probably can't pass backface on M80, but maybe it could :D

What is the hardness of the Carl Gustav 556? Is it mild steel? Possible to harden?

@BuffRANGE

6 жыл бұрын

+Joe Vazquez about same from what I remember. Don't know how to harden it considering you'd have to make new jacket fornit

Got a link for that Steel 9mm? Awesome video

@BuffRANGE

7 жыл бұрын

Florida*ARMY*VET I got them awhile ago from Northeast Reloading awhile back. I think they're out.

@floridaarmyvet3613

7 жыл бұрын

Buffman - R.A.N.G.E. .. They are a scary 9mm.

@floridaarmyvet3613

7 жыл бұрын

Buffman - R.A.N.G.E. ..Do you like the CZ Scorpion? I'm thinking of getting one..

did you reload the czech if so how much of whst

@BuffRANGE

5 жыл бұрын

Yes we reloaded it. We couldn't find factory ammo. I believe it was titegroup

Does anyone make a lvl 4 UHMWPE plate?

@user-oy9zy4ds9m

7 жыл бұрын

No but the closest to that is a ceramic lined poly plate designed to stop enhanced penetration rounds that regular poly plate won't stop. I believe only 1 manufacturer makes it so hard

how is a 3a rated for m193?? wouldnt that make it a level 3 rifle plate?

@BuffRANGE

7 жыл бұрын

+Brian Hunter this is where it gets tricky. NIJ standards are minimums. 5.56 isn't listed as a standard NIJ threat. This plate easily makes IIIa standards, it's labeled as such since it probably would fail against the NIJ Level III M80 ball. PE plates stop high velocity threats as long as they're lighter and don't contain steel

@brianhunter8627

7 жыл бұрын

Hey Bud love what you do! yea these ratings can get sorta funky, its insane that a 9MM steel core was poking out the back but stopped 2 5.45mm.... the steel plates light and fast do better( m193, 7n6) but these plates battle rifle calibers would do better but stop the small fast rounds that kill steel plates. I guess n.i.j ratings dont matter very much when you are just trying to poke a hole in them for entertainment.

@BuffRANGE

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, It's interesting to say the least. This plate would be an awesome alternative to a Level III steel plate, except it can't stop M855, or M80 (at least at full velocity). I want to test an actual NIJ level III composite next.

@user-oy9zy4ds9m

6 жыл бұрын

Yep. For example the 22-250 is like a 30 grain? Or lighter round going over 4,000 fps goes right through the AR500 III+ 1/4" 11lb steel plate that stops true AP rounds. But ceramic or composite level III plates (lesser rating than III+) stop the round cold with not even a trace of back deformation at all. I wonder if this PE plate would stop it since it's a very light round but going super fast. (4100 fps)

@BuffRANGE

6 жыл бұрын

I'm working on some 22-250 tests..

Is the factory 10 7N6.. Russian or Bulgarian made?

@BuffRANGE

7 жыл бұрын

Bulgarian :D

@user-dx9ku6ni9o

4 жыл бұрын

@@BuffRANGE That not 7N10 ?

@BuffRANGE

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-dx9ku6ni9o "Factory 10" as in where it was made. Sorry didn't mean to infer it was "7N10" ammo. It's from my understanding 7N6M is the designation.

Woulda been nice to see m855 result from 16” before all the exotic rounds that statistically you wouldn’t encounter

@BuffRANGE

8 ай бұрын

This plate won’t stop m855 from a 16”.

@kebarnoski

8 ай бұрын

@@BuffRANGE would have been nice to see, more common than half the rounds used to defeat in the video

Good god your audio dude

@BuffRANGE

3 жыл бұрын

This one got fucked not sure why

I don't know why, but this video sounds like loud radio for some reason....

@BuffRANGE

7 жыл бұрын

Sorry about that. Does it sound better after 3-4 minutes? The camera accidentally got switched to "manual" when I was testing some audio settings. The time after 4 minutes should sound better :O

Impressive but these definitely need a trauma pad behind it. Maybe 2