Love the test and how excited you are to see the results, I was the same on this side lol

Thank you Mike for your hard work as always. Stay cool.

@icarusflight2396

2 жыл бұрын

With that hat..... he only knows cool. All joking aside, here in Texas with really bad heat this year..... where did he get that hat?

@sweetmeatnc1504

2 жыл бұрын

youll still always be the wizard of armor destruction or whatever it is now lol

@thegregshow1761

2 жыл бұрын

Test it

2022 body armor plates are cheaper than gasoline.

I love these videos! This is the type of information we need! Thank you sir!

Cool video! I’ve never worn body armor professionally, I’m too old. We just assumed that BDUs and a cool looking boogie cap made us invincible. 😎

@mikewithers299

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 I was thinking the same thing

@DMF716

2 жыл бұрын

Dammit Jim! I thought I was invisible when everyone said they could only see my face and hands! Now, I have a complex! Hahahhahahaha😉

@kenofken9458

2 жыл бұрын

Back in my day, we didn't even fight with clothes on! Just blue body paint and axes!🤣 We didn't win too many battles to be fair.

@nemoexnuqual3643

Жыл бұрын

I started out invisible in BDU’s then we went to the ACU’s and armor became extremely important as it was designed to blend well with gravel and some generals couch.

@RobinP556

Жыл бұрын

@@nemoexnuqual3643 I never wore ACUs, but I’ve heard a lot of negative things about them. I do remember a picture that someone took, I’m assuming that it was real, where a guy was laying on an old couch wearing ACUs and blended in perfectly.

Based on your recommendations I have purchased two of these. Thank you!

Can you do a video on when and how to properly use plate backers?

I think the best bet is to put a level4 on top (in front) of a steel plate and have soft armor under that and have someone else wearing it when hit. Best to be on a couch somewhere relaxing

I have these plates and I love them so much

Afternoon MrG&G . Good to go ! Thanks

Would love to see something like a III+ get shot with a 30-06 AP but at a more realistic distance (something like 150-200yds) to see if it can stop it. A round like that is most likely to be on a hunting rifle. I doubt Bubba will be clearing a room with a rifle with a 26" barrel and a 15× scope shooting one of these rounds.

@marcomenabue7717

Жыл бұрын

Clearing rooms with a Bolt action hunting rifle sounds pretty metal

@noeitiim7386

11 ай бұрын

​@@marcomenabue7717It absolutely does not

@lindboknifeandtool

7 ай бұрын

There’s also people who know that 30-06 black tip is the best penetration do they likely have bought an hcar or something more modular

Thanks Mike. I'm calling this "tweeked armor Tuesday"🤣

Looks like for a Special Threat plate they had to significantly make it thicker compared to other ST plates in order to stop M80 ball. Especially the NIJ rated one which is 1.5" thick.

I would love to see a review of Tacticon Armament Ar500 and Ar600 steel plates. Love your videos thank you brother

Bro you are so informative, bit it's nothing new for you. Thank you for your hard work. Thank you

Thanks for the review.

Great stuff Mike

LOL YOU REMIND ME OF THE FLYIND NUNN AWESOME VIDEO !

That hat is so dope. We need to test it.

Nice hat. We all loved you in the Hobbit.

Excellent video!

I just did this last weekend , wanted to make sure it worked

@chillnick1865

2 жыл бұрын

Which plate did you test specifically? What were your results?

Love it! Just grabbed a couple from your link. Thanks for posting!

Great review.

That sun hat is epic!

I'm loving that hat brother.

Love these !!!!

LA police gear lv3 plate the only plate I know of to date to not die by your efforts including 30-06 black tip.

Seem like RTS (that I got because of your testing) continues to be a great choice..

Battlesteel is great, their website and customer service on the other hand....

Ahh HAA, nice! Thanks again mrg&g!

Great video

I wish you had clay behind it, like some people do, so we can get an idea of the force going out the back and into the wearer's body.

thank you Sir

EXCELLENT !!! THANK YOU !!! DSC

I think BoTach has a new distribution center. I ordered a carrier in 21 and it took two months from China, I ordered a new plate in 23 and had it in a week from Nevada.

i want one of the ruger made 1895 sbl in 45-70 but i think the trapper would work better for me and one of those ranger point precision brakes i say order all the plates you can afford at one time. botach for me was never a fast shipper, and fuel shortages plus order volume...if you think youre gonna want it, youre definitely going to need it and extra. the 3a soft plates with cheap carrier for 99 bucks i just wish i bought a dozen the first time. great gift, easy sale to anyone who sees it, and you want multiples anyways

Can you guys review full bodyarmor? Would be tight!

I love the armor videos

I see these for sale on like Optics Planet and similar sites. A surplus store near me in Tx, sells them, but told me it was LEO sale only. From then on assumed it was the case, but seeing if these are able for a civilian to just purchase?

Does the suppressor lower the velocity of the rounds?

In reality, the hghest likelyhood threat anyone would face would be M855 193 and M80 which is what makes regular level 3 iffy. It's good to see a good option under level 4 weights and not breaking the bank.

@humansvd3269

2 жыл бұрын

Its best for one person to just save money aside bit by bit then buy the stuff.

what if you shoot 30-06 with one there iiia flexible plates behind it. Would the extra uwhp slow down or stop it ?

@nutsnfancy

2 жыл бұрын

I wish all armor reviews had a iiia soft panel behind the hard plate. I don't really care about the clay backface deformation. I also wish all optic reviews showed the amount of ambient light visible from the objective end of optic while the orotic is illuminated at all levels. Eotech's are the only optic I'm aware of that emit absolutely no visible light towards the target.

Nice battle steel armor, my man!

How do you like that stock in the savage?

Do you think the 45gr .223 is better at penetrating armor than hot M193? I’m only ever interested in armor if I can find videos of it stopping both M193 and M855 since they’re both so common.

@kenofken9458

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen articles and videos which suggest that the 5.56 ball is actually better at punching through steel plates than the penetrator round. Apparently in some cases, the steel penetrator is stopped by the plate and then the rest of the round - copper and lead, flow around that and spread out, decreasing the force to area ratio and it doesn't get through. The ball on the other hand maintains its integrity and punches through.

I like to see him shoot against a solid packer so the plate isn't giving so much. Like a big block of clay thats molded to fit the armor. More like body. When the plate can move and give , it doesn't give a true representation of how well the armor actually works or doesn't work.

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

This is very true. I'd even offer to build the box I use for Mike, but I'm not sure he's able to lift stuff like that as it would be approaching 100 lbs with clay. His dirt box is fine for a medium, but he really needs to strap the plates down because he's not getting maximum energy transfer aka worst case. Menards has straps for pretty cheap.

@williammason8673

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuffRANGE Expert trolling my friend! *clapping

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

@@williammason8673 am I trolling though? In all seriousness Mike’s and IRV8888’s data points are probably the only other 2 creators who I watch for armor tests. If Mike had a box like mine it would help validate his results even more.

@nutsnfancy

2 жыл бұрын

@EBH I wish all hard plate reviews had a quality iiia soft panel behind the hard plate. I couldn't care less about back face deformation! What I want to know is the bullet stopping power of a soft panel behind a hard plate ... if the round makes it through the hard plate!

@kenofken9458

2 жыл бұрын

@@nutsnfancy I wouldn't have much confidence in the IIIA stopping a round that cleanly punched through the plate. Some plates are sold to achieve a certain level "ICW" in conjunction with soft armor, but most people buying plates these days seem to use them alone in carriers. Personally I think it makes sense to use any plate along with soft armor to cover more area at least from handgun rounds or fragments. You don't realize how little anatomical real estate a 10x12 plate covers until you put one on.

Love ya, but where the hell did you get that thing on your head?

Wait. It ceramic and uhwmpe is in the level 4, is this one only 3+ because its thinner? [Than lv4?]

@hyperion4818

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the ceramic and PE backing on the III+ plate is a bit thinner than the Level IV.

M80 is the certification round for 0101.6 level III

Ordering 2 as soon as I get stateside 👀

I would save the shield for my personal preps also! Very good chance that you will need it soon!!

Will it stop m193 out of a 20 inch barrel?

What hat is that? Looks perfect for a range hat or mowing hat!

Awesome as always... That audio 😂💀

Thnx

where are these plates made? are they NIJ certed?

AT 3:05 is that a 3-D printed HuxWrx?

Looks like LAPG Lvl 3 still wins on price, and 30-06 black tip stopping, but heavier & single curve. Botach 3+ wins on weight, multi-curve, holding together better (lost less ceramic), and appears to have less backface deformation. With 20% Mr.G&G coupon, these are price competitive with LAPG at $111.00. Though, LAPG did an $85/plate free shipping deal which was an insane value.

@CarolinaNightHunter

2 жыл бұрын

The plates lapg sell are botach lol

@permagenix

2 жыл бұрын

@@CarolinaNightHunter I wouldn’t be surprised, but they are built to different specs. LAPG lvl 3 is single curve, uses Alumina tiles and performs like 3+. Botach 3+ is multicurve and uses silicon carbide tiles.

I haven't written professionally but do larp according to Kennedy and Meyers but I call it training and it's true Oz =LBS

What weight is the Level III+ Plate compared to Level IV?

Any m855a1?

Does anyone know where the best price for these plates are , which website ??? I’m seeing botach has em for 150-170 each

Could you do a DOUBLE Spall bag and see what happens? No body has such a test.

Dumb question for science, what happens if you shoot the plate on the back side towards the uhwmpe first?

@DMF716

2 жыл бұрын

The ceramic is what stops the initial shock of the bullet and hopefully breaks the bullet to pieces. The plastic slows it down and the heat from the bullet makes it liquefied briefly, and captures it. The reason why you don't wear it backwards, cause nothing breaks up the bullet except the person who wore it backwards as it smashes in to his Thorasic cavity.....and dies.

honest question, what makes one nij certified and the other not certified? If they are the exact same plate shouldn't both be certified? it doesn't make sense for there to be a certified plate and an uncertified plate if they are exactly the same product

@Mrgunsngear

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure it's a SKU difference

Anyone know if that coating on this one hold up fine in carrier with dirt, sweat, ect. Not sure what coating that is.

@KentuckyHound

Жыл бұрын

Someone is trying to use your channel for scams. See comment responding to me about a giveaway.

the hat is dope, yo!

I still want to know where to get the Tactical Gandalf Hat?!?

Another solid vid, but the NIJ battlesteel armor IS NOT the same. All of its thicker by half an inch or so vs non-NIJ, due to what appears to be a newtonian foam insert after base level 3/3+ plate and then a few additional layers of soft panels behind the foam -- the purpose of these layers is primarily to reduce backface deformation to w/in NIJ specs (non-NIJ thin panels simply can't meet that spec even if they stop penetration) but that add'l material may also increase ballistic protection. At one point one of the battlesteel NIJ options on botach showed a cutaway graphic showing the foam and add'l soft armor layers... Personally, I add level 3a soft armor and a trauma pad (some botach level 3a have had in the past integral foam in them even though not advertised) behind my non-NIJ 3+ battlesteel plates (usually run 11x14 soft and 10x12 hard for carriers that allow), which allows for easy removal if not needed, instead of transferring armor between various carriers... None of the level 3a+ soft armor I've ordered from Botach has had any foam in them however.

The real question is where did you get that RIS III rail 👀

Would you like to try my 450 Marlin on the plate ?

Any idea if you think it would stop M855A1?

@huwhitecavebeast1972

2 жыл бұрын

That plate, no problem.

@michaelnyden8056

Жыл бұрын

Huffman found it did not stop m855a1

Always enjoy the content, the open fly not so much 🤣 Has to be a joke in there about "rocking out with your...glock out" or something

@kenofken9458

2 жыл бұрын

That's what the gun channels need to draw some of the ladies: Do the presentation Magic Mike style!

Love the comments here... I’d like to take it a step further and request that you test a full set of medieval plate armor /sarcasm

That's freakin sweet definitely going to pick up a set... I've been looking for something lightweight but wanted something that could stand up against common 223/556 or 7.62×39 the 308 is a bonus. I honestly thought the 45-70 was going through you'd definitely feel that the next day.... LOL Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!

@djjaysky9071

2 жыл бұрын

45-70 will defeat level 4 plates

@Hath.0

2 жыл бұрын

I picked up a set after seeing this review a while ago. Definitely impressive for no nij rating plates. kzread.info/dash/bejne/d2qTxtFvpq-skqg.html

@user-oy9zy4ds9m

2 жыл бұрын

@@djjaysky9071 no they won’t. The backface will likely be over 44mm though. But outright penetration no way

@shawnsanders9450

2 жыл бұрын

If 5.56 get stopped from a 16" and above legth barrel so will .308 and 45-70. Backface deformation is quite another matter entirely with those bigger calibers but I would never be impressed if a plate stopped .308 or 45-70. It's 5.56 from longer barrels that will defeat your armor. 30-06 black tip won't go through lv4 but 5.56 black tip can.

@bengundry9242

2 жыл бұрын

Hesco L210s: lighter than this plate, NIJ certed, NOT made in China, Thinner than this plate, and marginally more expensive. Did I mention not made in China and actual QC?

Well hell yeah

Thank you, just ordered a 3+ shield, level 4 front, rear, and side plates, and 5 level 3+ 10x12’s, 2 new carrier vests, and a 3+ backpack plate from them after watching this.

@garrettzkool63

2 жыл бұрын

youre probably gonna wait a few months for it

It may stop the pullet, but your going to have some broken bones or internal injury from the impact. Definately need trama plate behind it.

what if you stack 2 of those plates

Eh ppl owe you for your work, if ppl have an issue w audio levels, there's a CC button. You dont owe anyone apologies.

It's amazing how suppress this channel is, no pun intended.

I'm sticking with my Safe Life Defense FRAS vest it's worth the money

@nutsnfancy

2 жыл бұрын

That dude gives me the used car salesman vibe

@richardcontinijr9661

2 жыл бұрын

@@nutsnfancy I'm sure he doesn't care about what you think and neither do I. Go back to your mom's basement you illiterate troll.

I have RMA 3+ plates. 2xPlates, carrier, IFAK= 10.1LB

@huwhitecavebeast1972

2 жыл бұрын

check out dayton armor, 2 level 3+ plates = 4 pounds. probably 6 total with carrier and IFAK

@BuffRANGE

2 жыл бұрын

@@huwhitecavebeast1972 But completely unsubstantiated in the industry of real world performance. Their lab testing shows those 3+ plates stopping M855 with 40+mm of backface. M80 ball is going to hurt.

I always click on these for tests and stay for the random thousands of dollars of random arsenal you pull out to flex on us. Lmao what a beautiful collection of history and equipment you have there.

Does anyone know if these will stop M193 out of a 20”?

@Mrgunsngear

2 жыл бұрын

should

Yeah

Hilarious results on Old Fat Dad, .22lr & .22wmr & the TINY 17hmr ALL penetrated this body armour passing through and bursting the water bottles. PMSL

Jeez,does the IRS have all those calibers?

I want that hat! Who makes it?

How long until tile guys start selling "covered ceramic tile" in New York city now that they're banning hard plates? 🤔

@kenofken9458

2 жыл бұрын

They could do that, but it's going to awfully hard to explain why floor tile is curved just right for a human torso.

@RichardCranium321

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenofken9458 it's for my Roman pillars... 😏

@kenofken9458

2 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCranium321 Just make sure to leave off the stickers with the NIJ rating and "this side toward body."

A shame that KZread deactivates links now!

Can you make the same video but 50 to 100 meters

@nutsnfancy

2 жыл бұрын

The 11.5 inch barrel shots simulate a 16 inch barrel shot at 100 meters.

Fueling Al gore's rhythm. 🚀🚀🚀

@mikewithers299

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Wonder how 30’06 non black tip would do…

The M80 definitely broke some ribs

@DMF716

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully we will never have to experience it and if so, at least 200 yards +

@chrisgabbert658

2 жыл бұрын

Double tap in the same area 🤷‍♂️ would be a good test.

I’d imagine that the deformation would still do some damage to your person.

You need to blast some plates with fiocci 40gr varmint ammo.. It's moving 3700fps out of a 20" barrel.. cookin! I tested some against some spartan 550 side plates and it went thru them like butter inside 100yds. Needless to say I bought 1k rounds after testing it

@user-oy9zy4ds9m

2 жыл бұрын

Yep I’m always curious about the really lightweight 223. Hornady superformance is 4000 FPS from 24” barrel

@TOO_RAW

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-oy9zy4ds9m so it'll probably go 3700-3900 out of a 20". There's two main ways to defeat armor. 1.Composition. 2. Velocity. Since we don't have access to exotic tungsten core stuff on the civilian market our only option is velocity. I'd be willing to bet those superformance rounds mentioned would go through ceramic inside of 50 yds with numbers like that. A good rule of thumb is level 3 is reliably defeated around 3300fps, 3+ is somewhere near 3600 and lvl 4 is somewhere around 4000fps. A buddy of mine got a .243 AR 10 with a 22" barrel specifically built for busting plates lol and it's goddamn good at it's role. It was expensive but he has yet to come across armor that will hold up against it

@rrr3r2

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking a 300 ultra mag shooting a 160 grain bullet at 3600 fps. If it don’t go thru your still going to be on the ground for a little bit

@user-oy9zy4ds9m

2 жыл бұрын

@@TOO_RAW nah you need bullet construction AND velocity to defeat level 4. I’ve seen level 4 stop 22-250 at 4400 FPS with almost no backface deformation. If that had been tungsten or perhaps even steel it surely would have gone through.

@user-oy9zy4ds9m

2 жыл бұрын

@@TOO_RAW I’m most interested if at what velocity will hardened steel defeat level 4 and up to what range. We know M2AP loaded into 300 win mag (approx. 3250 FPS ) will defeat some level 4 but others it won’t. I say at 3600 FPS m2ap will defeat all level 4. But that’s one gnarly cartridge to push a 163 grain bullet that fast

I’m quite annoyed. I was sent a less expensive set of plates than the ones I ordered, and was told they were the same plate. After proving that they weren’t the same plate they said they were going to issue a return label, which didn’t show up until I inquired again about it. Now I’m told that I will be issued store credit once they receive the wrong plates back. Then I can reorder the correct plates again and just pray that the right plates get shipped out I guess. My brother ordered the same plates as me a couple days later and received the less expensive plate also. My theory, which I hope is wrong, is that this is an intentional choice on Battle Steel’s part to profit more from customers who don’t realize it’s a cheaper plate. Then when someone does confront them about it, instead of just sending out the correct plates, they keep your money and issue store credit. Now my money is tied up and I risk the correct plates being out of stock by the time they get the wrong plates back. I’m also concerned that the wrong plates will show up again.

The shield on the site only goes up to level 3

@kenofken9458

2 жыл бұрын

I think that's because III is about the most you can reliably get out of UHMWPE, and if you try to build a shield out of steel or ceramic, you're going to end up with some 50-100+ pound monstrosity nobody could use unless they were as big as "The Mountain" in Game of Thrones.