I listened to the instigator of this event when he testified. He called a stranger a pedo, ramped up the accusations, involved another group of strangers, and then retreated to stand back and revel in the chaos he had created. He then filmed himself pretending to be shocked instead of trying to offer assistance. That is who should be on trial. Classic sociopath yelling fire in a theater.

@biancamaclean4794

Ай бұрын

Didn't he film the chaos and then took a selfie? True sociopath.

@deannacousin2339

Ай бұрын

I completely agree…exactly what I thought!

@WoodyWard

Ай бұрын

Ok Boomer 😂

@nanyabyzness3234

Ай бұрын

Wrong. Watch the entire thing. Nik , maybe jokingly, said I am looking for little girls, according to many witnesses. He could have walked away. I have been down that rive many times tubing. so I know how shallow it is there) That man rushed the group,, he instigated, never said a word with a crazy blank stare, could have left, and if scared, could have showed his knife and said "I will defend myself". No, he hid it and went on a stabbing spree.

@ragnakak

Ай бұрын

@@WoodyWard Great rebuttal there, champ

If you don't discipline your children, someone else will.

@ravenharris1257

Ай бұрын

💯

@sarahw7616

Ай бұрын

🎯

@flack3

Ай бұрын

There's no hate like christian love

@janetworrell5979

Ай бұрын

That is one way to think about it. It’s a very sad situation. Sending love and strength to all who were impacted. ❤️

@martinblank-cl7sv

Ай бұрын

They all acted like children... 99.9 percent of the population does... When has deadly force ever been acceptable for kids acting like kids? If he was in real fear for his life he would not have changed his cloths and tried to lie about what happened... You dont hold a knife blade up unless you are trying to kill... Never did he say he was armed or tell anyone to get back. He never even told his own group he was scared. The issue is none of you know what a fight really is... This wasn't even a skuffle how does this constitute deadly force? If it did why lie like he did?

I saw all the videos of these young people on the witness stand and every time I thought that hopefully no such people will ever move into my neighbourhood. Their initial stories were all proven wrong by the video and they tried to evade telling the truth as best they could. The video with sound shows clearly how they enjoyed tormenting the man for sadistic pleasure, as drunk and drugged cowards do.

@26michaeluk

25 күн бұрын

Exactly. They all literally committed perjury. Not to mention changing their stories twice. It's disgusting really.

@johnpatterson9037

21 күн бұрын

Nic was not fighting for his life! He was teased with words and used a knife to murder!

@brianmacker1288

21 күн бұрын

@@johnpatterson9037 What a dishonest set of lies you just spread. The men incited violence against him by shouting defamatory lies about him like claiming he was "looking for little girls". This did incite two women to go over to him. The women blocked and shouted at him without listening. They then assaulted and battered him on camera grabbing and pushing him several times. These men then shouted more lies about him and used them as an excuse to physically attack him. They pushed him down onto a rocky and gravelly river bed in a foot and a half of water. Easily enough to hold someone down in to drown. All while shouting even more lies They immediately punched him in the face while he was helpless on the ground. When he tried save himself by standing he was attacked from behind by another man in this pack of laughing hyenas. That man pushed him down again (and even admitted to it on the witness stand that he was trying to keep him down). Of course, the victim would think he was in a life or death situations. He managed to get up and face the new assailant but was still being pushed. He had a gang of 5 adult men attacking him simultaneously, joined in with a 17 year old. Harrassing him, attacking him physically with zero provocation. He was merely looking for a cell phone and googles. A cell phone they pretended to have at the beginning to tease him. It was only after all that they he stabbed the man who had just assaulted and battered him from behind.

@TheMike5232

21 күн бұрын

@@26michaeluk don't be stupid

@26michaeluk

21 күн бұрын

@@TheMike5232 I'm trying to keep other "kids" from being stupid. Nobody where I'm from plays with the word pedo and jumps men for a drunken adventure. Cause they'll be legally toe tagged. In any SYG state this man would've at most been charged with lying or obstruction.

Why were these kids not arrested for gang assault?

@user-cf6tm8yh2h

18 күн бұрын

....or better yet felony murder. I mean Issac Shewman lost his life during the group committing a felony( placing Mr Miu in immediate fear for his life). If anyone should have been charged with murder, it should have been the group that was assaulting Nick

@Vale10952

17 күн бұрын

Because in the USA society values the least important age group.

@TecTitan

16 күн бұрын

@@Vale10952 What in the sweet fresh hell are you trying to imply?

@broeheemed32

14 күн бұрын

@@TecTitan - There's no such thing as "sweet fresh hell". You're not "edgy", Suzy.

@Vale10952

13 күн бұрын

@TecTitan obviously in the west, the adults pretend that minors are the most important age group. They literally add nothing to society as minors.

Why wasn't the person who attempted to pull his bathing suit down charged with sexual assault? How is it possible that none of these teenagers got charged?

@sheilaisaacs981

Ай бұрын

IKR

@lindseyyoung9149

Ай бұрын

Because they're all being painted as innocent victims. Half of them aren't even teens! They're in their early 20's.

@anikaa7064

Ай бұрын

Because I think Nick made up that story.

@BeautifulMeadow164

Ай бұрын

Because there is no person who attempted to pull his bathing suit down.

@KiefEriksson

Ай бұрын

@@BeautifulMeadow164How are you sure of that?

Even when i was a teenager i hated other teenagers

@gyneve

Ай бұрын

I feel seen.

@Polyphemus47

Ай бұрын

@@gyneve Ditto.

@jayalexander3356

Ай бұрын

Same. I always thought they were morons.

@rosamorada7545

Ай бұрын

THIS!!!

@S-nyc

Ай бұрын

Yes! Teenagers & young adults (because they still act like teenagers) act like idiots in groups, esp if they are under the influence.

Never seen an incident that has so many people on the wrong side of truth

@orion9k

15 күн бұрын

It's always like this, this man is just lucky it was filmed. Group behavior can be very disgusting if there is an easy target especially if it's a masculine man.

@broeheemed32

14 күн бұрын

@@orion9k ....and he was a shell of the man he used to be, having had that bypass surgery. I doubt he was in shape enough to take one ONE of those thugs, never mind a dozen of them. I sure hope an appeal gets filed soon.

@dude8273

12 күн бұрын

honestly if he didnt talk to cops, the self defense claim would have worked and he would’ve been freed. his testimony on court was painful to watch bc he was caught lyng over and over again during his arrest and questioning

@angiejorah

10 күн бұрын

@@dude8273 PTSD after fighting for your life and just wanting to go home. Miu lying doesn't change the fact that he was surrounded by a drunk and high mob and had to fight for his life.

@dude8273

10 күн бұрын

@@angiejorah believe me. i'm still 100% on miu's side. those drunken mobs got what they asked for. but the way he tried to hide evidence, his identity, and lying during and after arrest really made him look bad and didn't leave good impression on juries. he shouldn't have taken a stand either because that did more damage to his case and probably sealed his fate. if you are going to go up there and all you can say is i don't remember, i don't remember, and also i don't remember for almost an hour and a half, why bother? his defense really didn't prepare him at all.

They didn't harass him. They ATTACKED HIM. One of them had his hand around Miu's neck, when the knife came out.

A lot of young people these days seem to think they can just disrespect people with no consequences.

@MrSloika

Ай бұрын

People have lost their filters for sure.

@madsterification

Ай бұрын

It's not just young people. People of all ages in America are acting like this. It's ridiculous.

@Kari.F.

Ай бұрын

Monkey see, monkey do. They have learned that it's okay to harass people from somewhere. The generations above them aren't necessarily any different from them.

@jimdandy8996

Ай бұрын

A reflection of their poor upbringing. They got what they asked for.

@carsonlantz6293

Ай бұрын

A lot of old people these days seem to think they can play judge jury and executioner because their ego is wounded

This man felt threatened. I am 56 years old, and being surrounded by 13 people would scare me so badly! Especially if they were younger than me and drunk, taunting.

@normarojo5834

Ай бұрын

His group was nearby though. He went there twice.

@enjoystraveling

Ай бұрын

@@normarojo5834 they blocked him from getting over to his group

@trailrunner925

Ай бұрын

and his health was not great.... he had had open heart surgery the year? before?

@lilgoofy2092

Ай бұрын

ur father failed you

@gingersmith2888

Ай бұрын

@@trailrunner9254 years ago

These punk young adults harassed him? This man was attacked by a pack of jackals. It's a disgrace that he is charged with first degree murder. He never went out that day with the intention of killing somebody. This is self-defense. How did he not know that they were not going to drown him?

@colonelradec5956

25 күн бұрын

No. The video exists. He walks into the river with a knife. That's attacking not defending period. There's literally no room to even argue anything else. You can say his feelings were hurt and you can say the teens were mean but he went after them period. Not even mildly similar to self defense.

@colonelradec5956

24 күн бұрын

@@kekkelsiini umm no lol. Also like I said he went to get the knife off shore. Which is attacking period. He left and came back to the situation. I feel like a lot of you people don't realize how self defense law works 🤣 To be self defense you have to have no way out. You can't instigate a situation then attack somebody. If you are instigating it's not longer self defense period. If these kids went to the shore and attacked him he might a got away with it. But he returned with a knife after having left the situation. That's like if I go around on the street calling people names till somebody tries to fight me and I pull a gun. Id be going to prison 😂 and rightly so.

@ceeIoc

23 күн бұрын

@@colonelradec5956he walked into the river with a knife is attacking? He’s allowed to carry a knife. He only took it out when he was being assaulted by a group of people.

@colonelradec5956

23 күн бұрын

@@ceeIoc no that's not how self defense law works lol even in Texas he wouldn't have gotten away with that 🤣 he want back to shore and got a knife. If you don't see how that's provoking then that's on you lol. Cause to a jury and the law that's absolutely provoking. Same with common sense. He was able to leave and didn't. Instead retrieved a knife lol. Also most don't realize he attacked first. If you claim self defense to win you have to prove that what you did was 100% necessary and you were afraid. If at any time you can escape the incident and choose not too then your self defense claim is gone 😂 In Florida they have stand your ground but even in Florida if you got a chance to get away the courts gonna convict you. Self defense is reserved for when your out of options. He had the option of walking away the entire time. He got closer to them multiple times. It took awhile for all this to happen. So yes guilty. And I'd study self defense if you plan on defending yourself.

@colonelradec5956

23 күн бұрын

@@ceeIoc also he wasn't carrying a knife. He had no knife. Then went to shore to get it after arguing with them. That's not the same at all lol.

Ultimately, he was found guilty of all 6 charges. It was a big win for bullies and harassers.

@diane4537

9 күн бұрын

Well didn't OJ Simpson get away with 2 murders? It happens.

@freekgroeneveld5382

3 күн бұрын

@@diane4537 Yes, but he did lose his last fight recently.

@653323895

19 сағат бұрын

you cant kill someone for making fun of you for 30 seconds.

@avagrego3195

10 сағат бұрын

Very sad

Never underestimate the stupidity of people in large groups

@timothygary1

Ай бұрын

Drunk people at that. Mob mentality.

@user-lj6lz4lb1p

Ай бұрын

Dirty kids, find dirty man, Kids die, get stabbed, man lives, goes to jail.

@sonneversets3530

Ай бұрын

Pack mentality is a scary thing...

@user-se8lh1ys4g

Ай бұрын

“But Democracy democracy democracy wait what are we protesting about again?”

@logann7942

Ай бұрын

It’s “Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.”

When social media skills meet real life.

@hydrostatic8048

Ай бұрын

🤣

@Koozomec

Ай бұрын

Underrated comment.

@MrIgottap

Ай бұрын

Too many have been getting away with it for too long “saying whatever they want without risking getting punched in the mouth” through a touchscreen. It’s going to get worse before it gets better.

@katie3657

Ай бұрын

Pretty much

@superstringsbro

Ай бұрын

Meet a psychopath 💯

I find it interesting to pretend drunk teens would never commit violence

@diane4537

9 күн бұрын

They were the most sickening bunch of teenagers I ever saw! Even on the stand they behaved like jerks. Like they were so innocent.

Many young adults disregard social etiquette and cry for help when they encounter consequences. Note how gentle they became when the cops showed up in true weasel fashion.

@jacobrideout3214

24 күн бұрын

Yes unfortunately non of the young adults had a conceal and carry to end the threat. Deadly force meets deadly force. This old guy was a troll he had 2 chances to flee this so called self defense case. It's hilarious how many of you can justify deadly force against non deadly force. Use your head.

@FrankieJizking-js3yv

23 күн бұрын

@@jacobrideout3214 A gun at a water activity? Sounds very beta. Too bad none of the sissies had enough testosterone to defeat a out of shape, pot bellied, old man one on one. Thanks for proving my point.

@brianmacker1288

21 күн бұрын

@@jacobrideout3214 Total nonsense. You are clearly as evil as these young men. The older man had a reason to be in the spot. He lost a cell phone and a snorkel at that exact position. The kids had originally teased him by pretending they had the child's phone he was looking for. Which was why he originally jogged over to retrieve it. They pulled it away and caused him to fall in the water and lose his snorkel. They were acting like evil bullies the entire time. Shouting false lies about him being a pedophile, continuously like a bunch of hyenas. When they floated 30 feet downstream they got off the raft and pulled it back upstream to harass him some more. They surrounded him, and called other people over to gang up on him together. The appropriate action would have been to try an help him find the phone, and/or the googles, or to leave him the alone.

@cloud9beauty

18 күн бұрын

This is not a natural consequence of being an ahole. He left and CAME BACK to continue the fight. All this over a phone that was already in the river? Nope Nick is unhinged and was looking for a reason to hurt someone.

@FrankieJizking-js3yv

18 күн бұрын

@@jacobrideout3214 Lol. Lay off the soy and stop fantasizing about being a school shooter. Please get some help.

Moral of the story: Don't be a bully

@YancyKin

Ай бұрын

The moral is when there are mouthy teens and you walk away stay away.

@cesarincamendozaloyola4407

Ай бұрын

On the basis of a main principle: don't commit murder.

@bestdjaf7499

Ай бұрын

You can bully Westerners. Slavic people are a bit different. Well, some of my relatives look Slavic, but they are Persians/Aryans - Central Asia/Middle East. The guys with blue eyes & blond hair & baby face, but all like Khabib. * They all have a knife.

@georgehasleftthebuilding6621

Ай бұрын

Morale is raise your kids as parents instead of trying to be "cool" friends with them

@beverly9

Ай бұрын

You can take the Romanian out of Romania… you know the rest.

Those kids taunting-laughing really gives it away. They were never afraid of him.

@dp.2766

Ай бұрын

They were afraid After he fought back…

@Farcehole

Ай бұрын

Grande really put it into perspective when he referred to “typical highschool bullying”. Those kids were a bunch of intoxicated twats.

@kitten88dm

Ай бұрын

Because they didn't know they were dealing with someone willing to murder.

@Farcehole

Ай бұрын

@@kitten88dm self defense isn’t murder. Murder is illegal premeditated homocide. At best what you’re suggesting is willing to commit manslaughter in the 1st.

@MrRadScar

Ай бұрын

@@kitten88dmi don’t believe it was simply willing. He didn’t go after people. He tried getting away. He didn’t go over to the group armed, he had not intended to kill.

These brats everyone of them should be in prison! This man was surrounded by 13 of these evil kids.. it was self defense

@maria89

9 күн бұрын

Wouldn't the kids be able to claim self defense since he slapped one of them FIRST? Not to mention he went up to them, not the other way around. He fucked around, gutted 5 kids, and now will spend the rest of his life finding out night after night in prison.

@trevorsole3933

8 күн бұрын

He put himself in the midst of their group, he was the aggressor

@HeyitsBri_

7 күн бұрын

@@trevorsole3933he went over there to ask them if they seen a phone his friend dropped and the kids went nuts. They took his snorkel and tried to pull his pants down. He started moving the floats around to look. He didn’t go to them with ill intentions, they were the aggressors

Note to self... Avoid approaching all humans at all times.

@jenerin905

Ай бұрын

No, you don't have to avoid everyone, just the loud and obnoxious ones. Or the super quiet ones who feel shady. I mean, you never really know who is dangerous, so... Yeah, avoid all humans.

@dizzymindy6024

Ай бұрын

My husband and I flew commercial recently, I told him before we left to not make eye contact with strangers. It’s sad that things are so out of control right now. I don’t know what happened to people, but common courtesy seems to be a thing of the past.

@dopecat4012

Ай бұрын

@@dizzymindy6024 Not making eye contact with strangers almost makes you invisible in hostile situations. It works wonders.

@Barnabas45

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the advise!

@zandrafalcone1359

Ай бұрын

@@dizzymindy6024 Exactly. You can't even look at some people without them going off.

I completely agree. And on a side note: How come the state saw no need whatsoever to charge the group for the illegal consumption of alcohol and other drugs, as well as for harassing, bullying, terrorizing and finally physically assaulting Mr. Miu?

@lesgobrandon3105

Ай бұрын

And an expired inspection sticker!

@jimdandy8996

Ай бұрын

Exactly

@YancyKin

Ай бұрын

Nic already was the judge, jury and executioner.

@terrilynnshoemaker5000

Ай бұрын

I guess my question would be why was the man grabbing a woman by the head and hitting her and then I'll be in in a brawl they were adults. This whole thing makes me sick. It's just being in the wrong place and that poor mother that told her son no you go with your friends tubing instead of picking up your dad at the airport. Can you imagine living with that.

@flack3

Ай бұрын

Its a 200$ fine, who gives a F really. A teenagers died because a man's ego was bruised. You people are ridiculous. Theres no such hate as Christian love.

Everyone wants to remain a child when being faced with the repercussions of their evil actions.

@fintan9218

28 күн бұрын

Did Miu claim he was a child when he was telling lies to police?

@jessicavalley9211

26 күн бұрын

😂 who cares those punks lied to self defense ​@@fintan9218

@MusMasi

18 күн бұрын

well good thing one brat isn't around to hassle people anymore

@maria89

9 күн бұрын

Lmao like this guy gutting 5 kids and then crying self defense when he doesn't even have one single scratch on him. Like this guy crying that he's a victim after charging teenagers and slapping one of them FIRST. Hilarious.

@rturner9

6 күн бұрын

@@maria89 That's why his sentencing is fair and only got the "reckless" charges. He had plenty of opportunity to just walk away, but not everyone is inclined to so when being antagonized and having the situation escalated to the level that this one got to. Both sides were wrong in this but there's only one winner in a courtroom. Hope these ADULTS learn from this and decide against antagonizing complete strangers for their own entertainment. Might not be so lucky next time.

Pack of wolves is the perfect description for these people. Now Mr. Miu is looking at the rest of his life in jail for being attacked by these trash bags. So sad.

@edTV2024

Ай бұрын

pack of hienas i would say

@terrybaird3122

Ай бұрын

More like a pack of hyenas.

@deadsolarsystem6298

Ай бұрын

Probably those teens have parents who are connected, ... judges, attorneys, police, gov officials.

@mckernan603

Ай бұрын

He approached them, you delusional coward.

@mr.donkey4069

Ай бұрын

@@deadsolarsystem6298 lmfao

He was surrounded, and assaulted. In one angle it appeared that someone had put pressure on the top of his head, preventing him from lifting his head above the water. This was Self Defense.

@theinnerlight8016

Ай бұрын

He also got choked and that's when he started defending himself with the knife. You can see it in the video.

@alysecoleman2538

Ай бұрын

Nope, watch the video. Better yet, watch the trial.

@bluejava9397

Ай бұрын

@@theinnerlight8016all the better reason to walk away…which he chose not to do…at several opportunities. Guilty.

@artkingofwholefoods74

Ай бұрын

@@alysecoleman2538 yup. And I did. Over, and over again. And… I am…

@danieljensen6154

Ай бұрын

@@bluejava9397by the time he would’ve realised his life is in danger he couldn’t walk away? He had no reason to leave beforehand

this case makes me very sad for some reason this situation is so much darker than other horrific cases, and I don't know why it troubles me more compared to other cases

@noorgonzalez1076

Ай бұрын

Matthew 24

This video should be shown in every classroom. It clearly demonstrates the effects of bullying and how a lack of awareness and empathy can escalate a situation. Thank you for the insightful and educational video, Dr. Grande❤

@user-vm9we7fs4d

Ай бұрын

Cry me a river

@starbucks3954

Ай бұрын

im a teacher, and im glad that you two freaks will never see kids

@JaneDoe-ip5yl

Ай бұрын

...and drinking

@Koozomec

Ай бұрын

Lose-lose situation.

@bthomson

Ай бұрын

Jane D - yes! Alcohol makes anything like this much worse!

I agree with your analysis dr. Grande. Drunken teens looking for a fight; crowd bullying, they got what they were looking for

@rwLincoln

Ай бұрын

nothing in them asking an outsider to leave them alone is "looking for a fight" (a knife fight) ---yes they were rude, as drunk teens, or young adults often are ---their pushing only started after Mr. Miu came back for a fight ---since he had already left, he didn't have to come back and murder ---and he can't even use the "crime of passion" (response to the ugly, rude name calling) since he repeated over and over in court that he was not angry at that moment ---so this was an intentional return to a fight (assured by the knife in his pocket)

They were taunting, harrasing him and even resorted to being physical with him, and he couldn't simply escape. He got overwhelmed by the harrasment which turned physical and acted in self defence. That jury was very stupid.

@official_catholic_church

Ай бұрын

He absolutely could've escaped. In fact at one point he started walking away. Then he pulled out his knife and reengaged the teenagers. And the only reason it got physical was because he punched a teenage girl, which was after he reengaged btw.

@kingpharaoh5716

Ай бұрын

@@official_catholic_church all they had to do was walk away also

@official_catholic_church

Ай бұрын

@@kingpharaoh5716 He was the one who stabbed six teenagers. He's the one who claimed he was fearing for his life. If he truly felt his life was in danger he would've left when he was given the opportunity. Whether or not the teens could've left has no bearing on whether or not he acted in self defense, it is legally irrelevant.

@Mankey1234

Ай бұрын

​@@official_catholic_church He didn't fear for his life when he had the opportunity to leave. It was when they attacked him in the water, the situation changed very quickly.

@benjaminguilatcoiv

Ай бұрын

The 'court' railroaded a guy who was defending himself against these 'youths' who were mugging him for no good reason.

I agree with you. However, after watching again, I see it is really a totally mishandled situation. He should have left, realizing he had a knife, and that the knife would be his only defense he would use, he must avoid these situations. A phone is not worth the trouble he appears to instigate. Kids need to know that it is not ok to fuck with people, I feel he situation could be over, and everyone involved still be alive if better judgment had been applied. Sad but he is not guilty of murder. Being pushed into a couple feet of rapidly moving water is deadly force, and he can respond with deadly force. The court got this one wrong.

These weren't kids. They were adults who chose to act like entitled little brats. He shouldn't be charged with anything. Those "adults" would be publicly shamed for such behavior. I'm tired of bad people doing whatever they want

@forbiddendonut_

Ай бұрын

So they deserve to be stabbed? He approached them and didnt say a word! if he approached pre-teens the way he approached these teens, you’d be singing a different tune! he never talked to them, never said anything! and started the fight

@bonniedup5687

Ай бұрын

but you dont stab people

@ev25zv

Ай бұрын

@@bonniedup5687 He stabbed people after he got punched in the face multiple times by multiple people who are a third of his age. They should have just stuck with bullying a nerd in their high school

@tinasparkles2434

Ай бұрын

​@@bonniedup5687 he had a heart condition, and was being accosted by a group of teenagers.

@tinasparkles2434

Ай бұрын

​@@bonniedup5687 ...not just accosted, assaulted. He was probably worried he'd be drowned.

My personal experience as a cave diver who frequently visited various backwoods watery places, getting through the locals was sometimes part of the thrill and danger of the dive experience. Not only were you worried about vandalism of your vehicle you even had to worry that they would steal your equipment, left in shallower water & necessary for proper decompression from these dives. The sites were generally filthy with strewn trash, beer bottles and diapers. Some sites were located on abandoned property or state forest land so there was no one to assist in case things went south. Some areas had no cell service either. Non of those teenage fools would have been acting that way had they not had their mob with them.

@ld3418

Ай бұрын

The reason not to go into those situations.

@allmycarsisbroke

Ай бұрын

@@ld3418 Or the reason for them to graduate 7th grade, behave with a little dignity and basic human respect, and stay the fuck away from people, mind their own business, and not touch shit that doesn't belong to them. All things I'm sure you'd be agreeing with had it been your property being disturbed.

@cathylindeboo.9598

Ай бұрын

Important point - they wouldn't have behaved the way they did without their mob with them. The psychology of a mob is a unique and unfortunate thing...

@AmandaLovesOldFords

Ай бұрын

The Apple River is a popular tourist destination for people to go tubing. People from all over Minnesota and Wisconsin go there. It's not some "backwoods" river full of "locals".

@jennifermunnings9127

Ай бұрын

Yup! And being drunk and/or stoned is typical behavior too. High school groups from all over the Twin Cities, every summer, for over 40+ years (class of 1977 myself). Pretty sure my buds would have been freaked by some old guy coming up to us with a snorkel and creepy non-explanation

This whole thing is disgusting, the young adults should be charged.

@theodoreyoung7946

12 күн бұрын

And the parents along with them.

Those teens should be on trial not they guy who had to defend himself against the thugs.

"I guess they were using the little known "push people into the water" method of assistance!" -what a perfect example of Dr. Grande's dry, subtle humor! 🤣 I could listen to him for hours, and I do!

I was never a punk at that age… I was taught by my parents, “you never know who you are messing with, so let people be”… I always lived by this philosophy… hadn’t had any major issues… these kids were never taught that and had to pay for it… my sympathy only goes so far with punks… and this BS argument of “their brains aren’t fully developed yet” is BS… they are developed enough to know what’s right and wrong. They wanted to act tough and paid for it.

@bogrot69

Ай бұрын

Absolutely.

@e.e.harrison1357

Ай бұрын

Thank you for your post. I completely agree with you.

@LazyIRanch

Ай бұрын

I don't understand why they were so hostile. I used to go camping with friends often when I was young, and sometimes we encountered drunks, mostly we were the drunks, but there was never any violence. I would have helped the man look for that lost phone. One time a guy walked up, helped himself to our (imported!) beer from an ice chest. We looked at him funny, "Hey man! Are you looking for someone?" He grinned, "Yeah! Billy told me to meet him at the campsite near the boat ramp!" "Okay, we don't know anyone named "Billy" but, ya want a burger? We've got plenty!" He hung out with us until his friend Billy came looking for him. Then they BOTH hung out with our group. We had better beer and cuter girls.😉 That was so typical for us, and the people we met. The whole point of going to the river or lake was to have fun, drink too much, and play bad music badly around a campfire. That was simpler, happier times in the 1980s.

@andrewgonzalez6208

Ай бұрын

Wow you’re so perfect. I’m jealous

@Naptosis

Ай бұрын

@@andrewgonzalez6208 You don't need to be "perfect" to be decent.

Unbelievable that he was the victim and ended up in jail for defending himself. Unbelievable

@TheSmark666

Ай бұрын

Modern America. Completely believable and should absolutely be expected. Stay away from large groups of people especially if they are within a certain age range and/or demographic.

@mikepalmer8051

Ай бұрын

He f’d up by talking to the police

@juanzulu1318

Ай бұрын

Wait, is there already a sentence?

@ryzele.5205

Ай бұрын

I hope Mr. Miu gets justice as well, he was harassed & assaulted.

@user-yw8qf8cc3t

Ай бұрын

Radical Jurisprudence

Dr Grande, I m so pleased that a professional like you has got yhis 100%correct. I felt that youconfimed everything i was thinking like most people.

Their behavior is sooo triggering to anyone who has been through highschool bullying. That laughter and circling around makes me absolutely sick.

@toxic.forest

Ай бұрын

Yes. I thought that too

@user-fn8xt1hs5w

Ай бұрын

I’m more disturbed by the stabbing, personally.

@pragmatica_onpoint

Ай бұрын

Yup, and the result was exactly what the bullies invited.

@michaelcolasurdo2622

Ай бұрын

I can’t decide whether that was more disturbing or the disembowelment

@seanosborn3272

Ай бұрын

@@user-fn8xt1hs5wyou’re weak. Bet you squeal like a 🐷

I’ve been a court reporter for 30 years and I am 100% in agreement with your assessment.

@TR-707

Ай бұрын

really stupid question - do people who work in court have to have counseling often? I cant fathom being around that stuff - especially working at some place like CourtTV (i know its not what you do but just as an example)

@ChristopherMaier.

Ай бұрын

​@@TR-707Your anxiety will lower once you stop being a homosexual.

@LazyIRanch

Ай бұрын

@@TR-707 That's a good question! I wonder if professionals working in criminal courtrooms ever get used to the horrible things they see and hear. They are stronger than me, because I know I'd fall apart. I have great respect for people who do these jobs. I feel that way about nurses and EMT also. I know I don't have what it takes to do those jobs, and few do.

@melistasy

Ай бұрын

Just curious, but what does you being a court reporter for 30 years have to do with you agreeing with his assessment?

@sunnydae6602

Ай бұрын

Tragic all the way around….but you don’t get a pass on a mob bullying of 1 individual because you are teenagers!

The defense should have called someone like you to the stand. This clown court just railroaded a sickly man with no criminal record just because they could. It sickens me.

@Skeletron1000

29 күн бұрын

You can't bring a washed up psychologist who makes the same KZread video over and over onto the stand. Wouldn't meet the requirements the court has for an expert.

@ginaa41

28 күн бұрын

@@Skeletron1000 I said "someone like you," meaning an expert witness, you halfwit. Words mean things.

@ginaa41

28 күн бұрын

@@Skeletron1000 Words mean things. I said "someone like you," halfwit.

@jeffbarnes2703

24 күн бұрын

@@Skeletron1000 Finally someone on this thread with a brain lol

@jeffbarnes2703

24 күн бұрын

Thanks for your concern but the 2 kids that were on life support from their knife wounds are probably more 'sickly' and deserving of your sympathy, as unwarranted deadly force was used against them for nothing more than some verbal abuse and a minor shove.

Dr. grande, always the voice of reason. Can’t we just throw out the court system and give Dr. grande the helm I mean really?

@TheTuttleCrew

2 күн бұрын

I find it intresting to warch Dr Grande but he is a Godless man who is wrong in this case! God does not take the taking of life lightly. A member of Nicks own group worried that his actions would appear to be that of a wierdo pedo. He was not asked to look for the phone instead asked not too. He was on the opposite side where the phone was believed to be! Nick rushed up and put his hands on the legs of two teens on the tubes causing all to get off the tubes and rightly concerning the teens about Nicks intentions! Wouldn't you if some guy rushed up and put his hand on your leg near your privates? Nick Had his havd on the knife for the whole situation, even before he pulled it out, He could have left but he wanted to get even! He wanted to start a fight where he could stab that is why he hit the girl. Nick hid the knife, hid himself, lied over and over again as did his party (except one man who called 911 and helped the VICTIMS), sadly ended the life of one teen and stabbed many others instead of leaving. He had no fear as the smile on his face and the knife in his hands when he simply could have walked away! I don't think the teens behavior was appropiate but the adult knew better!

This case reminds me of something that happened to me which could easily have gone South. I had walked down this trail to go to a swimming hole I had been too many times before. It wasn’t warm enough yet to swim but I liked going there just to chill and listen to music. It was midweek during the workday so there wasn’t really anyone else around. As I made my way down the trail I noticed a backpack along with some fishing gear leaning against a tree right next to the trail. When I looked down the thickly wooded hill to my left I could see some guy wading in the creek fishing. I figured the stuff was his and just kept heading down the trail without thinking much more about it. I eventually got to my destination, threw on my headphones and just chilled out as planned. About ten minutes later I saw some guy walk out of the woodline with a fishing pole. I immediately recognized him as the fisherman and figured he was looking to drop a line in the swimming hole as its a pretty good spot. So I just gave him a small wave of acknowledgment and nodded my head. But he continued to walk towards me and I could tell he was saying something? So I took out my ear buds. He was young guy about 25 with long curly hair and a muscular build. Looked like he definitely worked out. Thats when he spoke to me. He asked “Hey man. Did you happen to see a backpack and some fishing gear? I left it up in the woods and cant find it. Ive got all my stuff in there. My wallet and everything.” Immediately I didn’t like the energy that was coming off of him. His question was more accusatory than anything else. So I said yeah I saw it. I described exactly what I saw, that I saw him fishing, and that it was leaning against a tree right next to the trail. He kinda looked at me for a second and said “Cool. Thanks.” Then he walked off towards the trail. He came back about five minutes later only this time he’s much more animated. He says he couldn’t find it. So im thinking how could he not find it?? I mean its right there! Only a blind man could miss it! Now I could tell he’s convinced himself that I stole it. He starts giving me the third degree. Do you live around here? What’s your name? All that stuff. So now im getting pissed. Im out here just trying to enjoy my day. This trail and swimming hole is practically my backyard and I got this stupid absent minded guy basically accusing me if stealing his stuff. Keep in mind its just us in the middle of the woods and flip phones had only recently become a thing. I dont even think there were cell towers up in this area. So I had a choice. I could tell this guy to F off and risk getting into a fight or something worse. And judging by his physique I wouldn’t have had much of a chance without any weapon. Scenario two. He walks away cursing me and eventually calls the cops. Or scenario three which would cause me to swallow my pride and check my ego a bit and walk this dumb SOB to where his gear is. Ruining my otherwise chill day. I chose option three. So I asked him how far down the trail he went to search? And it was obvious he didn’t go far enough. I told him to follow me and I’ll show him exactly where his stuff is. Sure enough after a very long, tense and silent walk there was his stuff exactly where I said. Leaning on that tree right next to the trail. He says, “Oh. Thanks.” No apology or anything. Thats when I told him in the future he should pay closer attention to where he leaves his stuff and not be so quick to judge and accuse people. Immediately he got defensive. “I didnt accuse you!! I didn’t accuse anyone! Where the Hell did you get that from!?” I said, “You know what forget it. Im outta here.” And I split. That whole situation could have easily gone South like with these kids. And its often all about ego. Everyone seems so quick to fight these days. Rational thought is just gone.

@juicyjules7409

Ай бұрын

Hmm 😮😢👿😢🥶😡🐢👿

@NickyBlue99

Ай бұрын

Sorry about that mate, I really thought you stole my backpack!

@paulcarey191

Ай бұрын

lol- your story was not even close to the current one in any way i can see. But it was a cool story, the only thing i'd add is that = the world is not going to just mesh with the peaceful zen mode you got going in your own mind, that's vanity and thinking your special or the world circles your butt - not the other way around. you have to be like bruce lee used to say like water, adapt to the many moving parts of this world like that guy with his missing stuff, his head was slightly spaced out, no doubt and being a built muscular specimen like all body building types, they tend to think different than intellectuals and the rest, so having patience and showing the time it takes to lead someone to the right path in life, or to their lost personal items is a credit to you and is at the least what christ would want you to do - at the least. So slow your roll and give people plenty of space to prove to you - THEY ARE BAD, or are def going to f... you over then you will be good and mad, and they will be justly dealt with by yourself so relax and always remind yourself in this world you are a grain of sand on a beach just be patient chilled out and flow my friend. p.s. this case is complicated, i think the kids got that adjustment they needed, but i don't like the way he bull dogged his way over to their inflated tires looking for his phone, like they took it or were trying to hide it, and they had no choice about him bull dogging over to sniff around...that was weird and stupid, i guess your man in the woods did the same thing to you, now i'm seeing what i think you were seeing in both cases. O.k then i read your message loud and clear now, if that guy did that with you then both him and nico the russian were wrong for that much no doubt, good thing you handled it different than these kids.

@commonsense2680

Ай бұрын

Yeah, it is all about knowing when to fight and when to fold. Most people don't like being insulted, but if you know you couldn't take someone in a fight, and they look hotheaded, it isn't worth it to get into a fight, and you would never convince him that he was wrong anyway.

@baronhelius4596

Ай бұрын

@@NickyBlue99 Its all good man. 😆

Imagine instigating conflict & assaulting a gentleman simply looking for a phone.. then being surprised when he defends himself.. 😂🤦🏼‍♂️

@StruggleBus_Captain

Ай бұрын

I missed the part of the video where Mr. Mui told anyone he was searching for his missing phone.

@twistoffate4791

Ай бұрын

People get bullied all throughout life. Someone's always going to say something you don't like. You don't get to murder them all. Period.

@commonsense2680

Ай бұрын

@@StruggleBus_Captain And I missed the part in the video where the guy did anything that warranted them calling him a pedophile looking for little girls!

@TheEnd-eg6wq

Ай бұрын

@@StruggleBus_Captain Same as nowhere in the video does it show the idiot blonde being hit.

@superunknown6506

Ай бұрын

YOU CANT MURDER PEOPLE BECAUSE SOMEONE PUSHED YOU. 😂 ...dont quit your day job.....🤣

Mr Miu needs a retrial with a sane jury. Unbelievable. Good video man

@DEBSWickman

Ай бұрын

not how it works, appeals are based on law , not results of the court case outcome, lol

@ryzele.5205

Ай бұрын

One of the jurors is sleeping. Insane!

@angiejorah

Ай бұрын

@@DEBSWickman LOL put a man in prison for the rest of his life for defending himself based on a messed up jury? He should go home. Self defense 100%.

@angiejorah

Ай бұрын

@@DEBSWickmanEnjoy the man being in prison for defending himself.

@c.henderson6717

29 күн бұрын

​@@DEBSWickman Hopefully you'll find yourself in the same situation as Mr. Miu! And if you survive, come back and tell us how it made you feel! I can promise you, your outlook will be completely different!

Brilliant analysis as always !

The man was scared. I would have been too. I had a situation a couple months ago in a Veterans club that I am a member of. I had a difference of opinion with a guy over politics. I was surrounded by three men trying to get into the conversation and I'm a 63 year old woman. Next thing I knew a total of five men started yelling at me , surrounding me and calling me a bunch of very inappropriate names. No one came to my defense. I started to leave and three of the men followed me to the door. I ran to my car. I was shaking and crying all the way home. I haven't went back since then. Too scared to. So I completely understand this guys mindset. Our world has become very scary and angry.

@wrenogden6030

Ай бұрын

Did you kill anyone?

@_anon_4532

Ай бұрын

@@wrenogden6030 there’s always next time

@gold707786

Ай бұрын

Sounds like a nursing home situation. Hopefully, the three old men that followed you to the door were using walkers.

@davida1251

Ай бұрын

Politics are not a great topic to discuss in today’s world. If you are confronted by an opposing person or group of politics start talking to them about enemies of America and if they attack the U.S. would they be able to stand together with the other party to fight in war. You have to think about what really matters , and being American is much more than having a violent fight over a position on a topic that in the big picture is truly meaningless in the passage of time

@geekinasuit8333

Ай бұрын

No one should have to suffer through a terrifying experience like that, politics boiling over into a threatening situation is very sad to see, it means there's no longer healthy debate going on, it's descending down into intimidation tactics. Fortunately, in your case, no was killed or physically harmed, but if it keeps escalating, we know where that can go.

A knife is not a long-distance weapon. They were in his face.

@user-tr8fs7lm8r

Ай бұрын

They guy who was gutted, looks accidental. It looks like A.J. lunges forward, towards Miu, onto the knife as Miu is falling backwards.

@cristystevens23

Ай бұрын

​@@user-tr8fs7lm8rgreat observation

@MakeupMobster

Ай бұрын

This! They had to be up close to him in order to be even touched by the knife. At no point is he using the knife in a threatening manner. He is simply holding it in his hand because he’s in fear. He did not hold the knife up or wield the knife at any of the kids as if looking to purposely stab him. No one knows what Nicolas when though in his home country or what kind of trauma he had been through in his past. This is just sick.

@MakeupMobster

Ай бұрын

@@user-tr8fs7lm8ragreed. At no point do I see him using the knife. It appears he is just holding it and then gets pushed and puts his arms out and that’s when it occurs.

@lookupverazhou8599

Ай бұрын

5 inch blade is long distance.

The jury made a bad decision and the appeal should be a breeze

@653323895

18 сағат бұрын

those teen behavior is terrible, but the jury convicted him because he produced a knife before he slapped that girl. that is premeditated. also he stabbed someone whose back was turned and he stabbed someone who was clearly trying to break up the fight. the jury has an IQ 1,200 and a life experience of 600 years. you cant kill someone for making fun of you, and then claim self defense. they got it right. he will absolute lose on appeal.

I have a feeling that these teens will be a little more polite to older strangers in the future

@Gaggleosquirrels00

20 күн бұрын

I doubt it. They have a victim mindset. If he is convicted, they more than likely double down in their ideas. Delulu is a fitting description for that young group

@HostaMahogey

19 күн бұрын

And that old creep won't be touching any random teen girls in prison 😂

@fintan9218

18 күн бұрын

@@Gaggleosquirrels00 if? Verdict was reckless homicide. This video like most of the comments completely misrepresent what happened. Its pretty obvious you all made up your minds before even actually seeing all the evidence. Regardless of how the teens acted, Miu instigated the whole thing. He convinced himself they stole the lost phone, went and got a knife and confronted them by saying nothing and just running up grabbing their tubes and ones leg trying to get at the phone. He even put his hand by his knife right before he rushed at them. After they all yell for him to go away(one says a lot worse obviously, rest just tell him to go) he starts to but then turns around when the girls yell also. He walks right up to them, pulls his knife and while the camera then doesnt see it he either pushed or hit the girl. This video claims they had surrounded him as he tried to walk away, blatant Iie that is clearly proven false by the video he is showing when saying that. Most of you simply are resentful towards young people and dont even try to hide it, which left you all unable to look at this case rationally. Thankfully the jury did.

@candykane4271

17 күн бұрын

They learned nothing, they think they are all innocent

@sowianskizonierz2693

14 күн бұрын

@@fintan9218 bro you can literally see them surround and push him down in the video. did you not watch it?

I'm certainly not going to say that he is innocent or blameless, but people need to learn that their actions can have consequences and to leave other people alone rather than taunting them when in a large group for "safety".

@elliotjordan2326

Ай бұрын

Dr Grande mentioned Nick was blocked from leaving in the conclusion, but didn't say that in the analysis. I'm confused, could Nick leave at any time or did the teens surround him?

@loki2240

Ай бұрын

It looked like he harassed them and accused them of stealing a phone, and then they retaliated by insulting him. So, it seems like you're blaming the victims. Ultimately, the smart move is typically to try to end the interaction when someone is acting in an aggressive manner out of the blue. But that doesn't mean it's the teens' fault that they were assaulted. It's natural for people to be upset when they're harassed and wrongfully accused of stealing. Expecting perfect behavior from victims in the face of being mistreated by a bad actor is unreasonable.

@christellschmidt2035

Ай бұрын

He was surrounded. The video evidence is hard to ignore!

@dfire828

Ай бұрын

@@loki2240 I ask you again, where did you read/hear that he initiated the incident with accusations? I'd like to see this source as well.

@NYyankeeboi

Ай бұрын

@@christellschmidt2035 How do you know that? Unless you have video evidence of the entire altercation, you have no way of knowing.

It is deeply regrettable that someone died because of this asinine situation. They're all responsible because of their behavior.

@xtinctube7283

Ай бұрын

I agree

@Doe174

Ай бұрын

Bingo

@Alaryicjude

Ай бұрын

Thank you. Acting like the children are the only ones in the wrong here is asinine. He's a liar and an unsurpassed instigator himself.

@markhuru

Ай бұрын

Kids were also guilty

@markhuru

Ай бұрын

I’m going to comment every time I see another “cool” man with a beard? I’m trying to piece a theory, did covid set men off into the beard mode?

😢😢😢 Those teenagers were bullying that man; calling him those things 😡 they were getting others involved in the bullying by screaming for help which turned into a mob of people who were attacking this man when all he was doing was looking for a phone...😥😥😥😢🤬 the bullying backfired and one of their friends lost their life and an innocent man basically lost his life 🧬 to life in prison and all he was doing is looking for a phone!! A day at the damn river turned into a f****** lifetime and his wife is now screwed😢😢 I sure hope this man can get a good lawyer and get off on the pill because he definitely don't deserve to be in prison that was self-defense in every sense of the word

This is ridiculous it's cold group rioting Don't ever surround yourself with this type of people It will only lead to a disaster He goes to prison for defending himself that doesn't make any sense This is a broken justice system

My dad told me once, "If you go looking for trouble, you're going to find trouble you weren't looking for." Sounds like they were looking for trouble and found trouble they weren't looking for.

@m.j.e.5245

Ай бұрын

He approached them twice. Second time with a knife.

@jc71480

Ай бұрын

@@m.j.e.5245 No, he was trying to get away from the situation. Pay attention.

@egnbigdave

Ай бұрын

@@jc71480 prehaps YOU need to pay attention. He approached them and was aggressive. When intimidation didnt work he pulled a knife.Kids didnt give two shits about him untill he barreled into the group.

@CaptainSchlockler

Ай бұрын

He charged them aggressively, put his snorkle in his mouth to free his hands, touched the knife in his pocket, and proceeded to grab the tubes the teens were floating on, and continued to skulk around them menancingly. He did not explain why he was there, and invaded the teens space. The teens did not demonstrate aggression at this point, and it was clearly him who started aggressively charging and being menacing.

@jc71480

Ай бұрын

@@CaptainSchlockler he was looking for the phone, jackass. Pay attention. He pulled the knife after getting knocked down.

These guys didn’t just “harass” him - they instigated the entire thing, while drunk, to record it (“for the culture”), wouldn’t let him leave, attacked him, pushed him down to the water, tried to hold him in the water, and put their hands around his neck. Then they proceeded to lie in court, while the video proved they were lying. How is this happening?!

@briannatarelli430

Ай бұрын

This happened because he had to put his faith in 12 fools that were not smart enough to get out of jury duty.

@candicane1

Ай бұрын

You are very wrong and obviously didn’t know the facts. Nick approached the teens about a missing phone. They continued to ask him to leave after they kept telling him they didn’t have the phone and didn’t see the phone. Nick was the initial aggressor. The jury found him guilty of murder! They got this one right!

@katiejon17

Ай бұрын

@@candicane1 Miunthe right to go anywhere he pleased on a public river, looking for his phone. These guys should have either helped him, or gotten out of his way so he could look. They didn’t. They assaulted him. The “witnesses” were all caught lying because their testimony was at complete odds with the video evidence. One the video didn’t lie.

@gravesidepoet5405

Ай бұрын

@@candicane1one of hyenas was put down so that’s a W

@absolutelyfookinnobody2843

Ай бұрын

​@@gravesidepoet5405and the other was put in jail for the rest of his life

What? Theyre literally assaulting him and he gets Jailed for murder?

@ElChuntyCabra

Ай бұрын

yup! WELCOME TO BIDENS AMERICA!

@HerculesEinstein

Ай бұрын

wow your so smrt. but you forgot that he inserted himself into the situation repeatedly. when you do that, you can never claim self defense, even in backwards states like texas.

@KdotLINE

Ай бұрын

@@ElChuntyCabra This has nothing to do with who is President, you weirdo.

@svenweiner9237

Ай бұрын

@@ElChuntyCabraI think the jury was biased because of big last name in a small town

@onetiredempath

Ай бұрын

@@ElChuntyCabrahow is this Biden’s America?? Honestly wtf dude People have been acting entitled for a Long time It has Nothing, I mean Nothing, to do with who the President is!! It is Society Not the President’s fault Your comment is Part of the problem People should take responsibility for THEIR actions and Not pawn it off on Anything other than that!! Actions have consequences…so, people Should know and understand that!! Politics doesn’t belong in Every Conversation See, I could point out that Trump and his minions Tried, unsuccessfully, to overthrow the government and throw out the Constitution…so that’s the reason this happened See Just how ludicrous that is??!!! Grow Up

They're drunken loudmouth liers and should be in jail.

I think being in the water is a huge factor. It’s so easy to get sucker punched when there is a big group like that. If you get knocked out, no guarantee anyone is going to pull you out of the water.

@theinnerlight8016

Ай бұрын

Exactly

@jaymike3302

Ай бұрын

Nick started it. And he took it way too far.

@brentdennard6722

Ай бұрын

@@jaymike3302 go home, you’re intoxicated.

@jaymike3302

Ай бұрын

@@brentdennard6722 I've noticed a lot of comments on various videos...saying that it's okay to use lethal force against drunk kids. So casual about it.

@FRESHL1887

Ай бұрын

Correct, being knocked out you could even drown falling face down into 3-inch-flat water. There was a drunk guy on a bike the other night who fell from his bike and fell into a wet spot face down. He actually drowned because he fell unconscious and did not wake up.

I would have been scared when they pushed me down in the water and converged on me. People do kill others.

@Clint52279

Ай бұрын

If nothing else the fear of drowning would trigger primal fight or flight.

@motelghost477

Ай бұрын

They pushed him AFTER he hit one of the women.

@clarkmay4819

Ай бұрын

His heart condition was a factor, too. He may have had fear of having another heart attack.

@leojwolfhouse8746

Ай бұрын

Yes, and people don’t seem to realize that he could have “accidentally” died in a number of ways. The young people might have been on trail for manslaughter if Nic was knocked out into the water and drowned

@kevinhornbuckle

Ай бұрын

Would you rush up to a group you did not know and grab their raft as a way to get close to them?

If society wanted to protect people from rabid, ill-raised teenager then teachers wouldn't be daily hurt by them. They are another privileged group

I can always rely on Dr Grande to give an honest overview of any given situation and include all context available.

Not to mention the fear of constantly being pushed in the water he could have had a huge fear of drowning.

@slashstabslice8672

Ай бұрын

boohoo? "oh no, my fear of waterrrr, this is a completely reasonable response!!" i cant imagine someone to be so weak as for that to be the case

@brentsanada6589

Ай бұрын

@@slashstabslice8672 it is interesting that you are alluding to weakness. I would like to hear what you would do in this situation when you were outnumbered 8 to 1:00 by a bunch of drunken teenagers who are physically and verbally assaulting you? How would you handle that exactly? Do you realize how much water it takes for a person to actually drown in?

@abra6608

Ай бұрын

@@brentsanada6589especially when it was considered vast majority of the group was physically stronger and out numbered him in a body of water.

@danconatser8699

Ай бұрын

he was pushed in less than 12" of water. So your conclusion of his "huge fear of drowning" is just supporting misinformation to match your own conclusions. In a case like this, we should stick only to the facts. And I hope that the jury will do this.

@brentsanada6589

Ай бұрын

@@danconatser8699 Exactly, tell me you can't be drowned in 12 in of water if your face is held down in it. Thankfully, in this case our defender didn't have to wait for that to happen he was able to defend himself effectively despite several assailants keep coming after him.

Honestly if I was surrounded by a group of aggressive, angry, drunk young adults engaging in mob behavior, I’d be terrified. But for it to happen while we’re all standing in a body of WATER..AND SOMEONE STARTS SHOVING? Now it’s absolutely a life or death situation.

@Zepster77

Ай бұрын

In knee-deep water? Riiiiiight

@noname-do4hb

Ай бұрын

@@Zepster77 uneven ground and rocks, knee deep is over your head if you fall. if you're knocked out you can die or receive brain damage very quickly. read a book, and go outside ffs uneducated and no common sense.

@lyft4238

Ай бұрын

​@@Zepster77and you would know?

@freudianslippers6567

Ай бұрын

Did you watch the video? They only shoved him AFTER he hit one of the girls. Why even antagonise drunk teenagers?

@billwalton4571

Ай бұрын

@@Zepster77 a lot of people have drowned in knee-deep water, the courts know that. Maybe you dont, but you wouldn't have known how much damage an old man could do to a mob either.

This is so disgusting. This man does not deserve prison.

for people who's defending these fatherless kids, I hope you don't get into a situation one day where you're surrounded by mobs and be forced to defend yourself or your family.

@Keznen

Күн бұрын

Why use "fatherless" as an insult? Plenty of people grow up without a father for whatever reason and turn out completely fine.

He wasn't only harassed, but also physically assaulted by the teens. Title should be updated.

@SpencerDonahue

Ай бұрын

he's been convicted already, yet here you are trying to die on this hill anyway. have fun!

@parawill7074

Ай бұрын

@@SpencerDonahue - He was convicted on lesser charges and what the hell were you talking about dying on some hill? Where did I say anything about his guilt or innocence? I only addressed the title of the video, so get out your feelings.

@LL-wc4wn

Ай бұрын

Mui struck a woman. He started it. Dante hit him defending her. Her glasses disappear at that point in the video when she is struck by him too which agrees with witness testimony. He pulled a weapon then started the fight. What a victim. The teens didnt touch him the whole time except Isaac pushed him at the very end after he stabbed the woman then the Carlson brother right in front of him. Neither of whom attacked Mui but Mui stabbwd them anyway. All of the teens stayed back none of them hit, struck, punched or kicked or held him. Your bias blinded you to facts. Bias like "mob" and "drunk teens". Mui told police he drank too many beers and had lots of alcohol... This is why jury found him guilty.

@parawill7074

Ай бұрын

@@LL-wc4wn - Yeah, they found him guilty of the lesser charges. Don't respond to my comment as if I supported the dumbass when my comments clearly show that I didn't. I'm only pointing out that a young man lost his life over dumb shit where mature young adults could have easily avoided. Mui was a fool and an idiot, but he didn't start stabbing people until he got assaulted and knocked down. Bottom line, don't do heavy drinking in public, keep your damn hands to yourself, and walk away from any confrontation if possible. Young man dead at age 17 and everyone is concerned about who's fault it is when EVERYONE played a role in his death and the multiple injuries.

@LL-wc4wn

Ай бұрын

@@parawill7074 lol you're walking it back now you clearly mad a bad call. Lesser charges that could see him get 90 years lol

The entire group was taunting, belittling, and bullying him. That part was all the way messed up! I could see the kids treating their fellow class mates this way.

@starbucks3954

Ай бұрын

youre sick in the head

@kolikari3813

Ай бұрын

Kids are idiots they always have been

@kolikari3813

Ай бұрын

Doesn’t mean you go around disemboweling them

@dariodeak

Ай бұрын

@@kolikari3813in this particular instance it does

@raquellofstedt9713

Ай бұрын

Oh, and they do, and they cry just as hard if you so much as report them to the school office. Nothing is their fault, see? Nothing.

10:27 "I guess they were using the little known push people into the water method of assistance!" Haha

Those young adults are lieing DOC ,..........PROSECUTER CANT TAKE. " YA I BELIEVE SO" the punch in the face LIE OR SLAP BS

They were not kids!! They were poorly behaved adults. And bullies.

@jacktrades5103

Ай бұрын

They are victims of their own choices, barely even human.

@GizmoMaltese

Ай бұрын

Why are they bullies if he is the one who rushed at them and flipped their tubes? Most groups of people would have beat him up the moment he rushed at them. They showed restraint and only called him names. Then he either pushed or punched a girl which escalated everything. He had plenty of time to leave but he chose to stay and stab people. He killed one. Stabbed another just below the heart. Practically disemboweled another. He chose that instead of just walking away like the kids asked him to.

@triggerskull

Ай бұрын

@@GizmoMaltese you got some of those wrong. And besides, the area is not the gang’s personal property. If they are that disturbed by him as the innocent “kids” they are, they could have chosen to walk away from him instead and report him to authorities. You corner a one single guy with high numbers like cowards, he has every right to fight like hell. Knife would be meaningless if he was against 1-2 people max. How many was he against again?

@gregwarren54

Ай бұрын

@@triggerskull Why would they have to move around when he came to their area? It'll be different if he had to be in their area. Which he didn't, because his group wasn't even near him and when you break it down, nobody in his group wanted him to go and look for that phone. He insisted which I think is because he wanted to see and be near young college girls him claiming that he was just in the area looking for a phone is a cover, but regardless when they started insulting him, he should've walked away and continue doing what the fuck he was doing at the end of the day and that's why his ass is in jail simply because he didn't walk away. Smh

@sosweetbaby4

Ай бұрын

In the video they were 17

Charging Nicolae Miu with first-degree intentional homicide is absurd. The state and prosecutor have gone way overboard with this charge and hopefully will come to regret it.

@haleybit

Ай бұрын

I can't wrap my head around this being 1st degree

@user-xn7uu9jt9q

Ай бұрын

​@@haleybitlikely due to age of the Victims, and some of the Young Adults involved were from Well to Do Families, not that to be an Excuse.

@madsterification

Ай бұрын

They'll lose the case because they went first degree and not second.

@DavoZed

Ай бұрын

1. I don't know the law in Wisconsin so I don't know precisely what first degree intentional homicide means. 2. He would have been offered an opportunity to plead to lesser charge in all likelihood before going to trial. 3. Typically a murder statute has lesser, included charges and the jury could have found the accused guilty of something less than first degree. Second degree or even manslaughter. 5. His lying and his attempts to cover up the crime are going to weigh heavily in the charging and in the verdict.

@scottdavidson526

Ай бұрын

​@@user-xn7uu9jt9qYou're probably right. I never thought of that, but yeah.

I thought you put it most succinctly with: "He didn't leave the house that day with the intention of killing someone." I agree. A jury didn't, apparently.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for expressing so eloquently what I believe. I watched every second of the court proceedings. I’m heart broken for Mr. Miu. This was a grave injustice that needs to be fixed. I found it difficult to feel empathy for the bullies. Watching a human beaten and persecuted by an out of control mob is triggering and painful. My empathy is 100% in Mr. Miu’s favour. May justice prevail.

Humans who are raised staring at personal screens, with parents who don't parent, and who spent little time in the real world while growing up may end up acting this way. I fear for the future if these kinds of people procreate.

@JB91710

Ай бұрын

It's way past too late to worry about the future. It is already set in stone.

@didgya

Ай бұрын

Teens have been like this for countless centuries

@azby7925

Ай бұрын

​@@didgya Yup. Before screens there have always been bullies who really shouldn't group together. It's the less becoming side of human nature.

@Jeff-sp7bg

Ай бұрын

Not really. We haven't had computers for centuries.

@didgya

Ай бұрын

@@Jeff-sp7bg lol. I didn't word that well. Just saying human nature hasn't changed.

To be attacked while in water your going to defend your life.

@espositogregory

Ай бұрын

I agree, people really don’t understand the dynamics of poor footing. Especially when the prospect of being drowned in Shin, high water is a real prospect. I would’ve personally given those kids some warning about approaching me, but the whole thing was bizarre to say the least, and no one involved is totally blameless for their behavior.

@vickijo2343

Ай бұрын

He had already stabbed the girl before being pushed into the water...now tell me who has the right to defend? Why is everyone missing that detail and focusing on him being pushed and slapped down into the water?

@aheineman9138

Ай бұрын

@@vickijo2343He open hand hit/pushed the girl’s head/face; he didn’t stab her.

@Kay-fv7cw

Ай бұрын

@@aheineman9138 And he was hit back.

@richardtyler9368

Ай бұрын

@@Plutarch46*douche bag. Did it make you feel good correcting the commenter, are you proud of yourself?

This is example of how people follow the cult. They don't watch the trial , but only a few clips. He was 💯 guilty.

@renees8891

29 күн бұрын

Yes he was

As long as we use the word "bullying" nothing will change... Its assault/ abuse. Same for "pranksters" that really are criminals.

@jeffbarnes2703

24 күн бұрын

Ok fine, it's verbal abuse, but if you think verbal abuse warrants physical abuse with a deadly weapon, then you should be locked up for the good of society (those of us with IQs above 80)

@mitzloo1933

24 күн бұрын

⁠@@jeffbarnes2703Verbal assault that turned into physical assault/threats of physical assault. If you are being assaulted, you are allowed to defend yourself. Did you even watch the video? The OP is correct. The word bullying minimizes the actions of the group. Just like jugging is a cutesy word for armed robbery.

@Gigakoopz

24 күн бұрын

@@mitzloo1933 Not with lethal force unless you have a good reason to assume you're going to die from the assault. This is not to mention that he had the chance to flee.

I've watched every minute of this trial & thank God there is so much video evidence.

I was tubing in another river nearby at the same time. One of our group said they had a bad feeling. We were like, oh, it's fine. It was nuts to hear this was happening not terribly far from us.

Terrible analysis. The individuals that were stabbed even admitted that Nic was assaulted before anyone was stabbed.

So glad you named the mob sadism Dr Grande.

@CarlosMendez003

Ай бұрын

Yes, totally agree with Dr. Grande's assessment

Lack of empathy. That's a massive problem among the younger generations. The additive nature of having cell phones and young people using them for hours and hours a day have been proven to have lowered the ability of young people to feel and experience empathy - up to 30% and even more.

@h..s369

Ай бұрын

🤡3%

@adriel7229

Ай бұрын

I engage with them on reddit and it's downright scary.

@bigbawlzlebowski8886

Ай бұрын

I don't think past generations had much empathy towards each other.

@zoinx8256

14 күн бұрын

it's a problem form white teenagers

Very good analysis Dr. Grande

I wish someone could send your video to the judge in this case. They also made the questionnaire to the jury so complicated that the answers implicates that he was found guilty! The video says a thousand words! That girl lied,the video shows him holding up his arms to defend himself,no proof he hit her!

@noorgonzalez1076

Ай бұрын

😮

The worst part of this story are the prosecutors who clearly identify with the bully group, and not with Nic. This is becoming a HUGE problem in our Legal system. Can you address this sometime Dr. G?

@hm-ys4ym

Ай бұрын

Not to worry, think the jury will keep them in check

@YourGrace_06

Ай бұрын

That’s Wisconsin. They love their little White boys. Kyle rittenhouse

@Ann-sj4pt

Ай бұрын

It’s always happened sadly

@MNP208

Ай бұрын

Ummmm, they were doing their jobs as prosecutors. Defense attorneys have to do the same.

@MNP208

Ай бұрын

I am in no way excusing the teenagers’ behavior, but Nick could have acted like an adult and walked away early on. They were ALL intoxicated. Hopefully, parents will use this as a learning scenario for their teens.

I absolutely think these entitled teenagers got themselves into this mess. Its terrible that one young man died and others were injured. The man was absolutely pushed to defend himself! I've been in the middle of a group of mean taunting teenagers and I was terrified. Just because he lied doesn't change the facts! Id be afraid that if I told my side they would still prosecute me too. I feel for the family of the young man who was killed. But I don't have any empathy for the rest of that group!

@user-po9pf4ql5o

Ай бұрын

But he had to know that the police was going to find him eventually. By not mentioning it to his wife, did he plan to just go home and forget about it.?

@m.j.e.5245

Ай бұрын

Mui probably did this in Romania too. Look into unsolved killings and I'll bet he comes up

@OFishelyFishes

Ай бұрын

I feel bad for the 17 year old who died because it's over for him. He can't come back and say " I'm sorry, it was our fault." Ironically, he may have been the first to say so because he had his hand on Nick's throat. He may have been thankful he survived if he had, unlike all the others who are busy trying to garner sympathy for getting hurt in a really stupid game.

I don’t think he should have been found guilty. He was ganged up on by a gang of arrogant, evil teenagers. I’m shocked the jury found him guilty & the little bastards who provoked him are getting away with it.

@jacobrideout3214

24 күн бұрын

Would you rather be pushed into a river by a few young adults or would you rather be disemboweled by an old dude who doesn't know personal space? I'll wait for your answer.

@Gigakoopz

24 күн бұрын

Pushing does not warrant poking people with your blade.

@harryrupertus2075

23 күн бұрын

It's the way our twisted world seams to work anymore. Nothing makes sense anymore and the country is eating itself because of the stupidity 🤦🙄🤡

@harryrupertus2075

23 күн бұрын

​@@jacobrideout3214how about don't fuck with people if you don't want to find out. Pushing the guy is a threat and when surrounded you gotta do what you gotta do. I would have fucked up as many of them as I could. We used to respect our elders way more than these punks today. We knew our place most of the time. But not today. Every kid is a disrespectful know it all. lt gets tiresome sometimes with these delinquents. Alot of parents are failing their children and the kids walk around with a chip on their shoulder thinking they are untouchable. In my day the kids would have been held to account and the man would have been exonerated in what he had to do. And the reason I know this is because I hung with a rough crowd when I was young and we got in trouble all the time and a few times for ganging up on older dudes just like these kids did. I remember one guy was just leaving the creek after fishing and said maybe we should quite down a little bit because people were trying to relax and fish. Well a bunch of my friends surrounded him and got in his face taunting him and messing with him so pulled out a gun and fired at us but didn't hit anyone and we were held accountable because he was up against at least 15 people and feared for his life. He too tried to push us out of his way and was punching too. I remember feeling bad for the guy but I was part of my crowd and kept my mouth shut. I only got a year probation just because I was part of the crowd but some of my other friends had to do a year and a half to two years in jail. And nothing happened to the guy that fired at us. And I remember the judge thanked him for his bravery in standing up to thuggish teenagers.

@gtt8428

23 күн бұрын

​@@Gigakoopz"poking" you've been on these New York streets 🤣 Love it 💪

I hadn't heard about this case until now and this is the first video of yours I am watching. I really like the analysis and how well put together your thoughts were.

@fintan9218

26 күн бұрын

He lies about basically everything in his “analysis”, watch the trial theres good reason he was convicted of reckless homicide. I usually like dr grande but this video made me completely lose trust in him

@veliivalo9764

26 күн бұрын

@@fintan9218 Me too, sadly.

@TheBrawlBox

26 күн бұрын

@@fintan9218 Well said. There is evidence with this video to suggest that Grande is a psychopath, just like the murderer he condones. One of the most shameless videos I have ever seen on KZread. Is this guy for real? One very sick and twisted individual.

Water can be used to murder someone and they knocked him down into it twice. They EASILY could have held him under.

@StruggleBus_Captain

Ай бұрын

coulda, eh? You'd make a great litigator.

@asterixandobelix195

Ай бұрын

​@StruggleBus_Captain Yes, "coulda". Since they instigated the conflict, they are at fault.

@YancyKin

Ай бұрын

Really. There were 20 people around. Do you really think everyone was going to stand around watching a man being held under water until death. It takes minutes not seconds to drown. Until death he would be thrashing around violently. A knife wound to the heart is silent, everyone was unaware and he was dead in seconds.

@theflixcapacitor1372

Ай бұрын

​@@YancyKinThe kids are psychos. Why do you think that they started it in the first place?

@hoodathunkit8255

Ай бұрын

@@YancyKin Exactly! Team Nic seems to assume that every single person there other than Nic was an absolute psychopath. Ridiculous

There is no way that the jury is going to convict him of first degree murder. The prosecuting attorney really blew it when he charged him with that. At the most, he should have brought a manslaughter charge.

@joedennehy386

Ай бұрын

I agree

@themagnumtodd

Ай бұрын

Yeah they pretty much have to prove he planned the attack beforehand right?

@reneelibby4885

Ай бұрын

@@themagnumtodd in some jurisdictions they just have to show he formed intent before stabbing them ,but that intent need only be immediately before the act. even as little as a few seconds. it's a pretty riduculous law IMO. Looks like self -defense to me.

@Quad777888999

Ай бұрын

Manslaughter implies you used the weapon without intent to kill. You do not stab someone in the abdomen and not understand it will kill someone.

@robbymonaco3738

Ай бұрын

agree

Unreal he got charged let alone convicted… stay away from crowds and cops

If it happened in Florida, he probably would've won the case, AND the teens would've been charged for their friend's death.

@grantadamson3478

Ай бұрын

And that would be justice.

@barrettabney

28 күн бұрын

This is just proof that an armed Society is a polite Society. But when everyone is presumed to be disarmed then anyone can easily change into an aggressor/bully. The thick-headed criminals of Florida have finally begun to understand this.

@ErrolMusk

26 күн бұрын

In Florida there would have been no trial.

@26michaeluk

25 күн бұрын

​@@ErrolMuskexactly. He'd of never been charged. I'm glad I live in a stand your ground state.

@ginaa41

24 күн бұрын

That’s why Wisconsin sucks.

I recently attended a high school track meet. I think people don’t realize that 17 year old boys are strong men.

@patfallon3395

Ай бұрын

In a high stress situation, when you are attacked by grown men in a situation where they are intoxicated and using a gang attack, the stress and adrenalin would possibly prevent any measured thought for the attacked person, Nick Miu, to even consider that they might technically be under age, technically under the age of 18. Nick looks over 50 and we know that as an engineer doing technical work, he was in no position to take on one young robust sub 18 male. Sub adult is not really a good description? These were adults cloaked under a legal umbrella of age by years. Who caused it? If these young men had not gang attacked this man and pursued him in the water after he was down this never would have happened.

@dutchdna

Ай бұрын

@@patfallon3395 He wasn't attacked. He wasn't even injured. He was taunted.

@las9582

Ай бұрын

He was physically attacked ​@@dutchdna

@nickh.4917

Ай бұрын

I have to say that you’re right. I have one 17 year old son and I’m 53. If we had a fight he would win. He says, “You always threaten me with money.” I say, “Yeah buddy, that’s all I have left.”

@clk1717

Ай бұрын

Yes, just like the pending Preston Lord beating/murder case in Queens Creek, AZ.

I have yet to see a prosecution witness who elicits any sympathy in this trial. In general, a bunch of drunken underage kids picked the wrong guy to mess with.

Well done doc,well thought out and spoken,the problem was the jury couldn't separate the thought of poor kids and sadistic mob

This guy stabbed people, one to death. What was he doing with a knife? How can any rational person defend him?

@ErrolMusk

26 күн бұрын

Wait until YOU are in that situation

It comes down to this, “ as you can see the more you fuck around the more you’re gonna find out.”

This is a classic case of "FuQ around & find out."

@KarenAndersen-uy7vx

Ай бұрын

Exactly!

@poboxchristmas380

Ай бұрын

float around and find out

@m.j.e.5245

Ай бұрын

And get locked up for the rest of your life lol

@phoenixmerridian9119

Ай бұрын

Where is that in the law?

@DickGozinya-zl2bd

Ай бұрын

@@phoenixmerridian9119 I don't think "common sense" is written anywhere in the law but, when you do things that lack common sense you often find out. It's like riding a motorcycle without a helmet, wearing short pants & flip flops. You often get away with it but, eventually you find out. That's what happened here.

He is 54 so he will die behind bars. Unless there is the unlikely chance of a retrial or successful appeal. And what message does this send out? A mob can surround a man, yell false accusations in his face, physically threaten him, taunt him. He lashes out in a panic and unfortunately there is a fatality and injuries. Instead of recognizing the context, the mob are treated like the victims and the original victim gets his life thrown away. So if you live in Wisconsin, better just let drunk teenagers hospitalize you rather than stand up for yourself.

@iriths

25 күн бұрын

Doesn’t look like they approached him, he should’ve just left no way you’re finding a phone too… Miu probably just has a big ego, the guy is an idiot.

@kilroy1964

24 күн бұрын

​@@irithsYup, I agree. But that doesn't make him guilty of murder.

@philstone7475

24 күн бұрын

He easily could have moved along and avoided the whole situation. Yes the young people were idiots but there wouldn’t have been a dead kid floating in the water if Nick had a bit of sense! He also went back to his group like nothing happened. That’s not normal. There’s so much imbalance in the comments here and in the broad commentary about this. If you were in his place, would you not have at least threatened the group with the knife first? The normal thing to do is pull a weapon out and clearly state that you will use it if the other person comes at you. It seems he just pulled it out and immediately started stabbing. What an insane disregard for human life! Y’all! TAKING A HUMAN LIFE IS HORRIBLE! Even in the worst case scenario where we feel like it’s us or them it SHOULD cause a normal person deep and devastating pain to end another person’s life! Legal “rights” aside, this is just a travesty and objectively wrong.

😢 it's a shame that this young man lost his life but it's a shame that another man is going to have to spend the rest of his life in prison because the kids decided to bully him mob mentality took over...😢