I can’t fathom going to a church where the pastor is married to his mistress that he met as a minor, where they both cheated on their spouses and he was their officiant! All WHILE he was pastor!

@dicedrice7216

13 күн бұрын

And if his wife hadn't died he would probably still be micromanaging parishioners lives as pastor.

@annmarie2964

13 күн бұрын

He isn’t qualified to be a pastor. I wonder if anyone going to that church is able to comprehend what the Bible teaches. Do they read, study, and apply the teachings? Wonder if it is just a feel good social club?

@Dulcimertunes

13 күн бұрын

Yes, he should have been permanently barred from ministry

@tanyachristensen5330

13 күн бұрын

What church actually condones that?!? Serious red flag right there 🛑❌🚩

@mamacito1795

13 күн бұрын

​@@annmarie2964 Probably use the Bible to justify the actions like God is forgiving, noone is perfect, everyone makes mistakes, he's more human and understanding as a pastor BECAUSE he's likely a grooming cheating terrible husband. You know the kind of place

Are we not going to talk about the fact that she was 14 when they met and he was 28 and that's probably when the grooming began?

@MegaLivingIt

13 күн бұрын

Yes, that big age difference was even more important than if they had been well adjusted people. Micah was not just young, she was inexperienced and I think unable to defend herself like an equal adult to him. I think you nailed this case, Dr. Grande.🌿

@lizzylou2290

13 күн бұрын

I was also surprised when I learned that she had previously been married given that she was fairly young when she married JP. This case is so sad & tragic. I can't even imagine what her family felt hearing that 911 call knowing they would have done & said anything to keep her here.😢

@angelofmery21

13 күн бұрын

Wow, are you serious!!??

@spOOkytimes

13 күн бұрын

This and the fact he officiated her wedding and proceeds to have an affair with her? Not cheating isn't just subtext of the Bible or implied to be wrong, it is explicitly stated how wrong it is in the 10 commandments. She was clearly groomed and mentally unwell and he took full advantage of her.

@audralynn7454

13 күн бұрын

He did mention that she said it had been happening since she was 10 but she had not met him when she was 10.

The husband is a legit creep!

@zovalentine7305

13 күн бұрын

Amen.

@rayross997

13 күн бұрын

He is the wolf in sheep's clothing. He should never be allowed to pastor any congregation ever again.

@shanna2.2.2

13 күн бұрын

Listening to all the garbage he was saying about his poor wife who couldn’t defend herself against his claims just frustrated me so much. That guy is a class a freak for sure

@kelvinmorris1991

13 күн бұрын

@@zovalentine7305and she killed herself

@ursodermatt8809

13 күн бұрын

@@zovalentine7305 the wife is a legit crank

His eulogy looks more like a bitcoin 6-week to financial freedom scam presentation

@Teresa-tn4we

13 күн бұрын

Uh huh

@TiffyBackup

13 күн бұрын

BITCOIN PAMPAGU!!! 🚀🚀🚀

@DaisyDay.-pm2cf

13 күн бұрын

His attorney should have advised him on appropriate attire and demeanour.

@lademoiselleketoret6958

13 күн бұрын

Girrrl, yes. 😭😤

@nataliapolova2850

13 күн бұрын

Couldn't have said it better myself.. he acts just like a tech bro.

He knew that she was bipolar and paranoid and he deliberately exacerbated her condition. He has culpability in her cause of death.

@chloecrandell

13 күн бұрын

Perfectly said

@_Amanda_Lynn

13 күн бұрын

Have you not seen the texts he sent her family or the police reports that show he had a tracking device? Or even were he admitted to posting her private pic on fb for an hour for revenge. Being stalked by my unscrupulous husband would make me paranoid to

@spOOkytimes

13 күн бұрын

It's depressing how little DV and stalking is taken seriously. The stats are chilling. I hope she gets justice.

@commonsense2680

13 күн бұрын

I do not think he "intentionally" drove her nuts, instead I think he is your typical very selfish, self-centered, narcissistic, gross, and creepy person. I don't think he had the brains to do this intentionally. He looks like he has a mental defect too!

@bbe3034

13 күн бұрын

I think he murdered her! He didn’t want her getting 50% of the divorce assets!

The first wife dodged a huge bullet when she decided to leave after discovering the creep cheated on her with this woman....

@lademoiselleketoret6958

13 күн бұрын

Absolutely.

@susanbockh5071

13 күн бұрын

He groomed Mica from a very early age

@Sandi-zh2wx

12 күн бұрын

Mica wasn't "a woman", she was a child that had been groomed by a pos

@formerlyfromthefuton8171

12 күн бұрын

And Mica cheated on her husband to be with JP. She was as bad as he is, if not worse. He still hasn't committed _self-murder,_ at least.

@taydestiny38

12 күн бұрын

@formerlyfromthefuton8171….exactly! People on here are acting like she was some kind of innocent angel.

This is why some people dislike religion due to hypocrisy, cult like behavior, and other bad things

@lochnessmunster1189

13 күн бұрын

If any religion had 'all the answers' then we wouldn't need religious clergy telling us what to think.

@ddawson8069

13 күн бұрын

The heart of man is exceedingly evil. Only Jesus can forgive your sin and grant eternal life with Him. Often very evil men use "religion" to execute on their schemes.

@Dulcimertunes

13 күн бұрын

Sadly true. This creep does NOT represent Christ

@eddysgaming9868

13 күн бұрын

I've listened to people like this, none of them are as intelligent or eloquent as Christpher Hitchens was. They just have a personal dislike for Christianity and Christians. And so they make blanket judgements about a people. They hold them all to an impossible standard.

@l-train7876

13 күн бұрын

Christians are just as flawed as anyone else.

John Paul is a narcissist.

@GoldBerryTarot

13 күн бұрын

And maybe worse

@lochnessmunster1189

13 күн бұрын

Many religious clergy are. They love the adoration and attention.

@successartistry3023

13 күн бұрын

We are all narcissists, even you

@Mika77Top

13 күн бұрын

And psychopath

@bretfisher7286

13 күн бұрын

It's really going around, isn't it?

She was not dx with Bipolar until after her marriage to JP. We know that being abused by a narcissist can induced paranoia, anxiety etc.

@mellybean1718

13 күн бұрын

Bipolar is only diagnosed after a documented instance of mania. Its not typically diagnosed, so we can assume if she actually got diagnosed, she had been manic rather than just anxious or depressed

@Nikalina777

13 күн бұрын

@@mellybean1718 as someone who used to work in patient psych, many people were diagnosed incorrectly. It was a provisional diagnosis. Her husband pushed the diagnosis, so that he could continue to abuse, gaslight, manipulate her while simultaneously lie to his congregation. He is the classic malignant narcissist that destroyed her in every aspect.

@fancynancycakes

13 күн бұрын

@@Nikalina777 100%. I was diagnosed as so many things after I left my abuser who tried to end my life. I don't believe she had bipolar. I think she was heavily groomed as a child and when she finally broke free, it was unfortunately too late. She was his perfect victim.

@user-yz8ms5uy3c

13 күн бұрын

...but not Bipolar

@Nikalina777

13 күн бұрын

@@fancynancycakes I am so sorry you endured that type of abuse. I did as well, but not until my 30's. I can't explain how badly JP triggers me, as he reminds me so much of my abuser. I got out. Not everyone does.

How did his congregation allow him to continue as a pastor for as long as they did? Divorce and coming on to younger women/girls. Says a lot about this congregation. Good grief.

@kellyyork3898

13 күн бұрын

There are a lot of weird sects and offshoots of major religions in the southeast. They just pop up anywhere, seemingly overnight in shopping malls, at peoples’ houses and in “fly by night” places. They all have weird pastors like this one, in one way or another. Be careful of the myths and these “cult like” leaders that you may follow. These types of “churches/religions” are fertile ground for malignant narcissists and psychopaths. Know where your children are, and who they are with, at all times if you decide to frequent these types of “churches.” Don’t be naive.

@Veracityseeker7

12 күн бұрын

Exactly

@jc6618

12 күн бұрын

It’s called biblical illiteracy.

@sorrelbee113

12 күн бұрын

Part of it may be that he was manipulative, and when people did leave, he would stalk and harass them. Sherrilyn Dale did a video mentioning it

@bigtexbbq6347

11 күн бұрын

Well said

We’ll never know what truly went on in the relationship and marriage. But it is perfectly clear that JP is a controlling narcissist.

@machtnichtsseimann

13 күн бұрын

Between "We'll never know" and "perfectly clear" how do you reconcile your judgment of him? Seems completely contradictory in assessing him.

@_Amanda_Lynn

13 күн бұрын

Idk the text messages and police reports are pretty telling

@bufordhighwater9872

13 күн бұрын

​@@_Amanda_Lynn They're only telling of the last short period of time. I'm not arguing that he's not a scumbag. But we really don't know anything about his side of the story except that he's alleged that she had mental problems. And honestly, we don't know an actual diagnosis, the severity, or how those affected their home life. Once again, not defending him. But if she did have bipolar 1 or 2, or potentially Borderline Personality Disorder, she could potentially have behaved just as abusively as her husband has allegedly been. But the fact is, regardless of however she or her husband were together or apart, she was the one who made the choice and she's the one who took her own life.

@bbe3034

13 күн бұрын

I don’t believe she took her own life! I think he murdered her!! He didn’t want to share 50% in the divorce proceedings! He married her at 14.

@tinyvr7036

13 күн бұрын

All the while, I still cannot fathom why there are strict guidelines against child or Elder abuse ..based on age but NOTHING in place for a vunerable person @ any age. ? What about a mentally retarded adult? Do they also not count if over 18? Or under 65? You state she had " mental issues?" Was bipolar? These conditions put her at risk when cared for by the wrong ( abusive) people. Mica was a vunerable adult in a dangerous and highly stressful relationship.... 👉allegedly, right? What do you advocate for btw? You sound like you knew the case? . So why did she not get the legal and health considerations to at least be fully investigated about her and others' abuse and stalking claims? They too knew. They had all the reports. Documents. Etc. I am surprised you didn't just pass this off as a " the system is broken" cop out. It's been used as an excuse for far too long to do nothing and advocate for nothing. Imo People call themselves health of psych professionals. Some also call themselves pastor and husband. Smh May God forgive those who selfishly failed this beautiful vunerable young woman. Seek to find better intervention.. maybe we will also find the solutions.... Peace Not bondage. 💔

So even though this "pastor" cheated on his first wife and then married his lover.. he was still pastoring? Dear God! This woman needed help. And he was the worst thing that happened to her.

@lilafeldman8630

13 күн бұрын

He shouldn't have been in ministry after this.

@jmo1375

13 күн бұрын

@@lilafeldman8630Perhaps the ministry he’s in doesn’t follow the strict biblical standard outlined both in 1 Timothy 3:1-7 and Titus 1:5-9 in being a pastor/elder/bishop

@lilafeldman8630

13 күн бұрын

@@jmo1375 yes I was thinking that. it says you were to be the husband of one wife. So biblically you shouldn't have been allowed back into the ministry.

@danielch6662

12 күн бұрын

Timeline 2012 Mica married Jeremy 2013 John-Paul started Solid Rock Church 2015 Allison divorced JP 2017 Mica married JP 2023 Mica filed for divorce JP was founder, and presumably senior or only pastor.

@SandroWalach

12 күн бұрын

When does a priest lie? When the sermon starts.

“And ye shall know them by their fruits…”

@lademoiselleketoret6958

13 күн бұрын

AMEN.

@Veracityseeker7

12 күн бұрын

Amen

@jsf8145

12 күн бұрын

2 Timothy 3 💯 1 Corinthians 13:3-7 👌

@robynmarler1951

11 күн бұрын

🎖

@ContentRemoved___

11 күн бұрын

The thousand fruits all stem from the single vine of the heart.

A malignant narcissist if I ever saw one!

The fact that his first wife had similar complaints should not be ignored.

"Their relationship was born out of poor judgement" -- well said, sir.

@mariajaramillo1135

13 күн бұрын

But we need to consider all aspects from both ends. And after we do that, gest who was the adult in the relationship? Gest, who was ahead of the game? Who was the Godly one? Who was the one with the mental problems? Mica was a victim, period!

@lademoiselleketoret6958

13 күн бұрын

If not in the pit of hell. Unbelievable.

@paulabrown6840

13 күн бұрын

He groomed her…

@kellyhiller3977

12 күн бұрын

It was born in sin.

He is absolutely despicable. He needs to be in an institution, or rather, in prison. I hope they continue to investigate his involvement in her death and is held accountable for the abuse.

@carpathianken

13 күн бұрын

Society loves narcissists & stigmatises the mentally ill like Mica. There's people in both his inner & outer circle that will side with him even when they're aware of his malevolence.

@spOOkytimes

13 күн бұрын

​@@carpathianken I don't believe society love narcissists. Narcissists are just very good at hiding amongst the rest of us. It's easier to see a person having a bipolar episode and be afraid than it is to see someone who is extremely good at lying and manipulating their way through life and pretending to understand empathy. We assume most people have basic decency, and people like JP use it to their full advantage by pretending to be upstanding citizens while the people closest to them know their true personalities. (Also, no hate to people with NPD actively trying to better themselves and not harm the people around them.)

@Jennifermcintyre

13 күн бұрын

He appears to be the crazy one.. not Mica!! The video of him on the front lawn 🤯

@sternshadowdude2

13 күн бұрын

@@carpathianken rightfully so. The mentally ill are nuts!

@sludge8506

13 күн бұрын

How many years in prison do you think he should get, Sandra??

He definitely drove her crazy. Stalking, harassment, verbal abuse, etc can do crazy things to us as people 😢

@mallorycannon3011

13 күн бұрын

Yes it can. I was in a relationship with a narcissist for years and it literally drove me crazy. He convinced me I was "bipolar" like they claim Mica was. I question whether or not she was really bipolar. Or if he just drove her crazy.

@spOOkytimes

13 күн бұрын

_Real_ gaslighting. Not just the buzzword people use it as now.

@Blissfulnessence

13 күн бұрын

Hey, how'd you italicize 'real'? Serious question. Ty ​@@spOOkytimes

@eddysgaming9868

13 күн бұрын

And she had bi-polar. She was extra vulnerable to his coercion. And he seemed not to care.

He was on video laying on the ground crying saying they changed his medication… and he felt like he had ants crawling all over him. He then told his church he was on Lithium himself for Bi-polar disorder. These two videos are out there. Yikes.

@kellyyork3898

13 күн бұрын

Perhaps he’s projecting his own issues onto her, and she didn’t have any mental health issues at all…or if she did, her mental health issues were not that bad. Lots of these kinds of men like to claim that their wives are “crazy” so no one will believe them when they speak up about the abuse.

@paulabrown6840

13 күн бұрын

Drug addiction. He forced he to take drugs at times! He held an iron fist over her!

@kaym.2854

12 күн бұрын

A lot is out there. He posted threatening text messages to her sister when Mica tried to leave him Too bad no one could reach her and she felt like that was her only way out. 😥

@redesignedlife777

11 күн бұрын

show us the link to the video.

@kaym.2854

11 күн бұрын

@@redesignedlife777 It's on facebook & tik tok. I wish I could remember the guy that posted it but it seems like he had some grieviences with him in the past as well.

Her phone call to 911 is so haunting and sad.

@commonsense2680

13 күн бұрын

Yeah, that is very unusual for a person to do right before suicide. Was it a cry out for help? Maybe police should have gone immediately, but maybe they did and it was too late. Another senseless waste of a human life. Is earth really too overpopulated with over 8 billion people on the planet? Yes, I guess so, we have already almost run out of resources. One way or the other the earth will bring balance to itself. Maybe humans will all be bi-polar and kill themselves or each other?

@janetcampbell5678

13 күн бұрын

Imo, that was a forced call

@Lisanoencasa

13 күн бұрын

@@janetcampbell5678I wonder myself. Her tone seemed interesting compared to what was about to transpire.

@judylane8901

13 күн бұрын

AI

@dgh5223

11 күн бұрын

I think it was done by AI. They family said it don’t sound like the way she talks.

How do we know Mica was bipolar?? She was diagnosed AFTER she married John Paul. He mentioned that he was bipolar and had taken lithium. Her mental health was affected by his toxic and abusive behavior. He was projecting his bipolar on Mica.

@sarahjaye4117

11 күн бұрын

Maybe so

@christinasmith3699

11 күн бұрын

Yes, that is exactly what his behavior seems like.

@lizh1988

9 күн бұрын

He kept reminding his congregation that she was mentally ill, said so at the end of a sermon after she died. And in other sermons. Why would anyone say that, repeatedly trashing her in public. Was he jealous?

@kajalpatelrealtor

9 күн бұрын

Exactly, that's JP narrative to control her and abuse her mentally. I feel JP maybe bipolar?

@sallya.6944

8 күн бұрын

@@kajalpatelrealtor JP admitted to being bipolar and on lithium in one of his sermons

Have you considered the fact that many abuse victims are labeled "bipolar" when it could actually just be symptoms of abuse???? Was she diagnosed by a professional? JP is like the guy in the Gaslight movie. Your analysis of him seems to be spot on.

This dude has narcissist written all over him. From the outside, these dudes are just creeps to be avoided. But people fail to realize, a narcissistic relationship begins with grooming in EVERY case. They pull you in by pretending to be really nice, sweet, loving- they bait you. And then they transform, reveal who they really are. And the partner in the relationship with them feels like it’s their own fault for their constant misery. The abuse is both obvious and subtle. It’s a mind game. The “relationships” (“dynamics”, more like) I had with narcissists drove me to self destruction too. Almost. And even still, when I hear others’ stories, I remember how close I came to ending it all. The abuse takes everything from you. Your only hope is to get out, and then process and heal… but it’s not a guarantee. The pain lingers. I feel so much compassion for her, she was overpowered by him. I hope she can rest peacefully now

@eddysgaming9868

13 күн бұрын

As do I. Have you examined what lead you to become involved with these people? And how you can make changes to avoid them in the future?

@maiaallman4635

13 күн бұрын

Congratulations on getting out. I wish you the best for your future.

@TheWaterlily2012

13 күн бұрын

You are so right. I too have been through it. I also self-destructed and was almost driven to suicide to stop having to deal with the insanity and control.

@fancynancycakes

13 күн бұрын

100%. I almost ended my life after all the things my ex-narcissist did, including attempted unaliving. Every time I got close to figuring out his secret (that he is a ped0phile, he amped up the abuse).

@robynmarler1951

11 күн бұрын

You can't understand it if you've never been through it. It's as if you'd died and gone to hell. And they only do it to people they know will be vulnerable to it.

This man should never be able to hold ANY position in any church again.

I was misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder from 25 y/o to 32. I was put on lithium after the constant abuse of a narcissist ex and boss. I advocated for myself and I don't have bipolar. I have ADHD. I remember my ex was happy to take me to therapy and chug lithium and olanzapine (antipsichotic) to "make me softer and calmer" of course he wanted that, he wanted me confused and seem crazy. I remember he even convinced my mother to put me back on the bipolar meds when I started to see right through the abuse and manipulation. I almost married this man.. but like Mica, I looked for help, broke it off and did a lot of reading and self work. I AM now thriving, on the right meds and right diagnosis. It pains me to know and learn about this case because it hits SO close to home. not a lot of people (specially women) have the energy or resources to get out of that situation. It drains you mentally, emotionally and financially. If you are a person going through something similar please find help, you deserve a love that makes you feel free and safe.

@KaylaThrifts

7 күн бұрын

Yes, fellow ADHD female here.🙋‍♀️ The stigma is real. I had an ADHD diagnosis from childhood and my mother never allowed treatment. Fast forward to adulthood and I go to get re-diagnosed and assessed. Tested within measures of Severe inattentive ADHD. Mind you, the diagnosis process includes measures to eliminate other possible mental health disorders and comorbidities. From the psychologist, I book an appointment with a male psychiatrist who wanted to “rule out” bipolar disorder before approving treatment because I was “always happy” and he didn’t know if it was “mania”. I advocated for myself though and told him I just spent 3 days in a testing room with a psychologist and if bipolar disorder was present, he would know. 🙄

@spunkycat6144

4 күн бұрын

Wow, this should be pinned at the top of responses. ❤

Collateral tragedy of the malignant narcissist.

"and EXCEEDINGLY creepy " I agree 100% with that point Dr Grande. That is the feeling I got listening to this pastor.

There’s a lot of people serving life in prison just for being involved in a murder, ie get away car, etc. I hope the cops look very close at this,

@mercury890

13 күн бұрын

My exact thoughts, too!

@southbug27

13 күн бұрын

They won’t. They allowed him to cremate her without doing an autopsy.

@lizh1988

9 күн бұрын

Local police have closed the case, calling it suicide. The FBI is not now, though, since it's interstate. I just saw a woman who used an AI program, it took 30 seconds for her to do a statement from her that she typed in, but never actually said herself. JP Miller has a lawyer friend who is an AI expert, apparently. This whole thing is creepy.

@rolaki

9 күн бұрын

@@lizh1988 wow! Thank you for the update! Creepy is a good way to describe it.

Very sad and frightening another false prophet bad man was having an affair.... very scary.

@skepticusmaximus184

13 күн бұрын

You can always tell a politician or a prophet is telling lies. Their lips are moving.

@KoolT

13 күн бұрын

Another nut case he ran her crazy

@jennyjones-tw5hp

13 күн бұрын

It’s deeper than that. Mica was a literal child when they began dating while he was still married. Not to mention all the allegations of sexual abuse at home and abroad. It’s gross.

@commonsense2680

13 күн бұрын

I don't even understand how women fall for these guys? I frankly think they are funny and a mockery of God. They actually believe God chose them to speak for Him! LOLOLOL. Those pastor, priests, bishops, rabbis, whatever gross me out!

@herculesbrofister265

13 күн бұрын

@@jennyjones-tw5hppretty typical for religious leaders. What are the lgbt people up to, though, that's the question.

The congregation must have been blind.

@teelastrong8190

13 күн бұрын

There's none so blind as he who WILL NOT see!

@megankagarise8485

12 күн бұрын

You would think but narcissists do this ALL the time. Sadly, thr ones they abuse are either cast as crazyor unhinged and thus, alienated from those they once considered “friends”.

@lostandfound5145

12 күн бұрын

Or evil

@michaelm7299

12 күн бұрын

When people go to "church" for flash-bang marketing presentations and rock-n-roll, blindness is required for admission

She was worried God would be mad for leaving the marriage, but not for having an affair with him while they were married to other people? People are so selfish.

@ursodermatt8809

13 күн бұрын

it is god's fault then!

@jmo1375

13 күн бұрын

@@ursodermatt8809No, pal it’s the fault who use God’s name for ungodly means but that’s not a thing according to you

@ursodermatt8809

13 күн бұрын

@@jmo1375 no pal, it is still god's fault because he enables the "narcissists" using his name for doing "ungodly" things.

@susanohnhaus611

13 күн бұрын

There is no god

@joan-lisa-smith

13 күн бұрын

Actually she may have thought the marriage not working and his abuse was because of the sin of the affair (keep in mind also he was grooming her since she was 14). She may have had trouble leaving because in some way she felt she deserved it because of how it started....by her video though she, later on, realized she had been victimized and love bombed by a psycho.

This case just keeps getting crazier by the day!

How are people continuing to attend a church where the pastor had allegedly multiple affairs and continued being a pastor?! What Bible are people reading?! He was a walking red flag and displayed clearly not Biblical behavior. Very sad situation. Condolences to Mica’s family. Just heartbreaking.

She was a beautiful woman 😢😢. Such a tragedy 😢

Even if the so-called pastor didn't actually pull the trigger, I believe that Mica felt like it was the only way she would escape him. Very tragic, and I pray for peace and comfort for her family.

@AD-wi4fq

13 күн бұрын

His texts were extremely manipulative, vindictive, and so controlling. I also think she was vulnerable and felt she couldn’t escape him because it almost seemed like he was stalking her.

@eddysgaming9868

13 күн бұрын

Yes, that poor woman suffered. Which lead to her making such poor choices in life. Leaving her vulnerable to a manipulative narcissist.

@ursodermatt8809

13 күн бұрын

what about just moving state?

@jmo1375

13 күн бұрын

@@ursodermatt8809How about it’s probably not so simple

@ursodermatt8809

13 күн бұрын

@@jmo1375 nothing in this story is simple. there was a lot of talking about what the male was doing wrong. but nothing about the woman. surely she was not a saint.

So glad you covered this from a neutral perspective

@JKyall

13 күн бұрын

So far, other than some of the local news stories, this is the first fully balanced take I've seen on this tragedy.

@user-rv9qx9sp1y

13 күн бұрын

FACTUAL

@carolaguilera6911

13 күн бұрын

Exactly

My heart goes out to everyone who’s had their souls sucked dry by a narcissist! The helpless feeling.. the pain of being mentally and emotionally exhausted.. poor Mica was so close to being free of that monster and he just wouldn’t back down.

How did he get his dead wife confused with his sister ?! That dude is a weirdo creep

@Lisanoencasa

13 күн бұрын

It was HER sister he saw.

@southbug27

13 күн бұрын

The whole family has the same tattoo on their arm. I think he told that story to run it in & be cruel to the sister he did that to. It was a way to further torture & hurt her family even after her death. He’s a piece of 💩

@spunkycat6144

4 күн бұрын

He stalks her sister. Pastors have nothing else to do in life, all they do is write a 20 minute talk, most of it about themselves them add a verse or 2 then they have the rest of the time off. All social meals are written off. It is a great business plan. Most pastors are legit but this guy is clearly on video all the time and using his time to harass folks, go to mall, , delete her computer items, talk to attorneys, meet with his new girlie, purchase tire deflaters, publish boob pics, stalk his wife in person, attach car trackers, etc. So that is what this working church man actions were all day.

@misstinahamilton5714

4 күн бұрын

@@spunkycat6144 Thats wild !

This is so tragic … John Paul wasn’t worth her time …I wish she could have lived ❤ Thank you Dr. Grande , always enjoy your thoughts and opinions.

Jp should be charged with atempted murder. He slashed her tyres.

@bubbabroad9051

9 күн бұрын

Apparently they didn’t have enough evidence he had done it. 🙂‍↕️

I had a friend for a couple years who was bipolar and Borderline. She was caught in a relationship with an "exceedingly creepy and toxic" individual. Our friendship became her just confessing terrible stories and complaining, while fully admitting she could never leave him. It became stressful and annoying to myself, to the point that our friendship was no longer a two-way street with value and I had to cut it off for my own mental health. That's how toxic these relationships can become not just to those in them, but those who exist around that relationship.

@Polyphemus47

13 күн бұрын

I've only recently pulled out of a similar situation. It's exhausting.

Yep. A malignant narcissist can drive you over the edge.

"Exceedingly creepy"... 💯

As a person who has Complex-PTSD, anxiety, and major depressive disorder and who lives with a narcissist, I need to say that I understand that while her husband may not have actually pulled the trigger, but he certainly is responsible for her death. Narcissistic abuse is a very real thing and I am certain that he never gave her a chance to have a moment of peace. Don’t worry , I contract constantly for my safety and the safety of others. I still believe he actually murdered her and just has gotten away with it until now but eventually he will have to stand before God and no one escapes His judgment!

I HOPE her family gets a good attorney!!!

@lilafeldman8630

13 күн бұрын

Seems like there's a rise of cases like this a person dying by suicide at the hands of an abusive partner we saw it with Michelle Carter and there's been a couple of other cases out there like that too.

JP’s announcement of her death was VERY WEIRD. I believe he has a guilty conscience. He knows what he did.

So many narcissist get involved in Church leadership

I find it amazing that without any background check or accountability, people are allowed to be pastors of churches and preach every week while living lives that bring nothing but disgrace and harm to others!

FBI is now investigating him, Plus mica had bruises on her hand when she supposedly committed suicide

@zovalentine7305

13 күн бұрын

🎯

@Sunny-sc6pf

13 күн бұрын

And wasn't there something about the location of her body vs where she was k*lled?

@sludge8506

13 күн бұрын

Tell us more about, nadia. What are they investigating??

@darian2948

13 күн бұрын

Right!? People need to watch her father’s interview. It’s funny how she only had a mental disorder when she was with/met him. She was fine before

@doompod

13 күн бұрын

Multiple shell cases at scene as well.

I know someone who knew her and worked w/Mica @ one time. He spoke very highly of her and is in disbelief that "she suicided"

@Dontzzzzz

13 күн бұрын

I knew some one that had a cousin that had an aunt that said she knew you and said you act like you know everything

@sabias3932

13 күн бұрын

​@Dontzzzzz why am I not surprised it's a man trying to ridicule a positive anecdote about a domestic violence victim? Get help.

@trevorrogers95

13 күн бұрын

@@Dontzzzzzwhat mate?

@mutamirmukhzani1240

12 күн бұрын

I had a friend with bpd. It got worse as he reached his thirties and by 35 we found him hanging from a tree. On that day hes just as normal as his usual self was hanging out at our regular spot and about half an hour after he left some local kids reported his demise

Also, the pastor is dating a woman at this moment, whose husband recently passed away. The guy died by drowning in a pool. He was in a wheel chair and “fell in the pool”. The pastor also had married them years before. And now that both spouses are dead. They’re dating…

It appears the elephant in the room is she couldn't help from law enforcement... She reported him 8 times and was not taken seriously! She did the right thing by reporting him and was shut down!

Moral standards for preachers seem to have declined.

@user-xe8un7jl8h

13 күн бұрын

Indeed, from zero.

@NoelStalker

13 күн бұрын

I feel like it's been going ever since there were preachers

@jhozthron4415

13 күн бұрын

Declined? nah they have been putting their hands on little boys all through out history.

@somenygaard

13 күн бұрын

@@NoelStalkerIt has been a problem from the beginning of Christianity; Galatians 1:6-9 KJVS [6] I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: [7] Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. [8] But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. [9] As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

@somenygaard

13 күн бұрын

@@NoelStalker Acts 20:29-30 KJVS [29] For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. [30] Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

As a very fortunate survivor of domestic violence, this is truly one of the most profoundly sad and heartbreaking cases I have ever come across.

Sounds like grooming! Not surprised 🤨

@iLoveBoysandBerries

11 күн бұрын

You can't groom an adult

@crazycampers5655

11 күн бұрын

@@iLoveBoysandBerries He met her when she was a teenager.

@lizh1988

9 күн бұрын

She was 14 and he was twenty eight. She was in the youth group. He is rather older than her.

Wow, he posted a picture of her (topless) online. That'd be disappointing and depressing if he were a plumber or a lawyer, but he is a pastor??! Some pastor.

I would question the rationality and insight of anyone who'd continue to follow this pastor.

Thank you for cutting thru the hype and melodrama of this tragic case. Maybe you can explain why so many manipulative, narcissistic, grandiose, self believing "deities" end up in church leadership positions? And why do they attract so many cult members? There are many wonderful, compassionate and humble pastors out there to compare these monsters to- yet despite so many cases of s#! abuse against children and/ or women coming to the attention of the public, these "pastors" continue to find sheep to shepherd. Is this a general failing among certain types of people? Can we ever educate/ enlighten innocent future victims BEFORE they fall prey to these wolves in sheep's clothing? Sorry if I am overusing or mixing metaphors! As always, your insights into these cases are valuable and enlightening. Thank you!❤

@lizh1988

9 күн бұрын

Some people left the congregation. One of them put out evidence of the type of man he was. He was pursuing a woman he just met right after Mica died. The woman recognized him because her sister had gone to the church for a while but left because she saw people there being treated badly. There were others. There is more about the waitress on the Vision Unsealed channel. There are a lot of Christians who are calling him an abuser and not a man of God.

I want "exceedingly creepy" added to the DSM.

He might not have been there at the very second it happened, but he ensured that it was going to happen, and continued to harass her until he got what he wanted. The fact that he was able to give a sermon the next morning, and wasn't too upset to work that day, speaks volumes

Ugliest shirt worn at a memorial service. GUILTY! Yech.

@will7its

13 күн бұрын

haha chicks are funny.....

@mellybean1718

13 күн бұрын

He has the Chris Watts facial hair too, hmmm

"Mica Miller found herself attracted to, and then trapped by, a pernicious pastor who promised to be a solid rock but turned out to be a false deity." ~ Dr. Todd Grande

Sounds like in the eulogy he was trying to distract the audience from his culpability.

When a sociopathic Narc meets a bipolar disordered soul. BANG....Unfortunate

@mellybean1718

13 күн бұрын

Mix in a patriarchal religion

@jmo1375

13 күн бұрын

@@mellybean1718Which you know little about

@lostandfound5145

12 күн бұрын

@@mellybean1718right! Not only did that man have coercive control over her because he was abusive but he was also her pastor! Spiritual advisor! And a leader in their community. Just think of all the times he said “you’re hurting the church” when she tried to tell people what he was doing to her. Poor Mica. When someone has that kind of control over you there is no way to think clearly. You just can’t. They literally warp your reality. 😢

@lostandfound5145

12 күн бұрын

@@jmo1375the people that seem to know little about Christianity are a lot of Christians as far as I can tell

RIP Mica Acacia Miller 🙏 7 March 1994 ~ 29 January 2022⚘

its weird to me how people treat marriage and divorce like dating and breaking up.

@richardaaron4454

13 күн бұрын

Mainly in cities, rural people are less likely to do so.

@alexanderorr2528

13 күн бұрын

@@richardaaron4454 Not really these folks were conservatives from a rural area. I've lived in the city and super rural and in rural areas so many people get married when they're like 19 or 20 and end up divorced 5 or 10 years later when they actually fully become adults. In the city ppl tend to date more and for longer so they aren't jumping into a marriage right away. Of course the ghetto area in the city is a whole different story but they aren't getting married to begin with lol.

@danisouris3429

13 күн бұрын

The mental health hospital also should have done more to help her. Those places are awful and do t help. They make sure you REALLY want to end it all.

@lizzylou2290

13 күн бұрын

A wise older man once told me not to marry a man until they're at least 25 years old, because men under 25 "are just weird".😅

@barb7124

13 күн бұрын

In the ghetto they just fuck​@@alexanderorr2528

This is really sad. Clearly she felt trapped by him, and he's such a creep that he didn't even cry at her funeral.

@spOOkytimes

13 күн бұрын

Tbf people grieve differently, but this dude has many many other red flags that adds to him not crying at a funeral.

@shatteredshards8549

13 күн бұрын

​@@spOOkytimesI should have clarified, he cried without tears at her funeral. Of course people grieve differently, but he tried to fake his grief.

@eddysgaming9868

13 күн бұрын

He's high on himself. A grandiose narcissist.

I totally agree with you I just got out of a toxic marriage and I can truly say it can literally drive you crazy this is a very sad story he played with her mind and possibly caused her to a traumatic ending.

An abusive relationship can drive you to insanity, with or without a mental health condition. Crazy making.

This poor woman. Very sad for her family. Thanks, Doc.

Instead of caring for her. He made everything worse for her. How sad.

I’ve been waiting for you to chime in on this one. Thanks for posting. Poor Mica.

Watch for John Paul to acquire another “partner” for his malignant narcissism as soon as absolutely possible.

@Teresa-tn4we

13 күн бұрын

Yep

@lostandfound5145

12 күн бұрын

He already has! He’s dating a widowed woman from his congregation

@asynchronicity

12 күн бұрын

@@lostandfound5145 What a guy

@lizh1988

9 күн бұрын

He was making a pass at a waitress just after she died. The waitress saved the receipt where he gave her his phone number and a big tip. He asked her for photos.

It amazes me what people put up with.

Another wolf in sheep’s clothing

@somenygaard

13 күн бұрын

Acts 20:29-30 KJVS [29] For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. [30] Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

@laurah.7696

13 күн бұрын

I agree, has no right to call himself a pastor. Church of Satan more like it.

What a sad story.

It's sad that people begging for help keep losing their lives, for simply trying to live

@user-kt1cc5pl6o

12 күн бұрын

Amen

John Paul ! What a creep! He's in a place of worship were he can mess some other young persons mind. Makes me sick !!! I have seen this type of character in places of worship a few times.! You hope that people will be able to see through the facade!!! 😮

So twisted, yet we all know that evil hides within the flock,,,the deceiver at work, stealing souls.GOD help us, Amen😢😢😢

Guten Tag Dr Grande! I am enjoying your work and dry wit in Salzburg. Thanks for making my afternoon break at work so entertaining! Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹

@youssef16844

12 күн бұрын

I read this in an Austrian voice and had to chuckle for some reason. I think it's the casual "Guten Tag" juxtaposed to the horrible crime referenced in this video that did it.

@bubbabroad9051

9 күн бұрын

I am in Vienna watching!

@Bettertimes2025

6 күн бұрын

😂

I thought you were about to say at the end, "She thought she had found her Solid Rock, but he turned out to be a rolling stone." 🙃

Thank you Dr. Grande for a detailed and revealing summary. It echoes closely to the abusive marriage that I had to "a man of the cloth" -- sadly, so many of them believe they are immune to evil doing, constantly rebuking others "who need to be saved" by shouting scriptures @ them😢

Mica was incredibly beautiful. Wow.

He's guilty of being a hypocrite and bad husband. The conspiracies drive me nuts. She made it very very clear what she was doing. What a shame - such a pretty girl.

@heatherlicious8224

13 күн бұрын

Exactly, sounds just like it like he wanted it too. Idk something doesn’t feel right.

@rickrudd

13 күн бұрын

​@heatherlicious8224 Of course he was horrible and manipulating. I was referring to the thousands of people on Twitter who tried to advance a ridiculous theory about him physically killing her when the details of her actual death were indisputable.

@cassie1264

13 күн бұрын

I don't believe the conspiracies that Mica was murdered, but you are drastically minimizing his guilt in saying he was a hypocrite and a bad husband. JP is a groomer, stalker, and an abuser. He should face charges for what he put Mica through, but the likelihood of that is pretty much nil now that she's dead. At least he's being exposed. He won't learn from this and will maintain his innocence, but at least those around him will be aware.

@jillturner9263

13 күн бұрын

@@cassie1264I get it but she never reported anything. Where were her friends and family all these years. Your telling me no one stepped in for this abuse

@HollyFurgason

13 күн бұрын

@@jillturner9263 Sadly, that's common.

She was so young and vulnerable. Once she was under his spell she never had a chance.

Why do so many people fall for charismatic narcissists?

@MISSAPRILx3

13 күн бұрын

Lack of experience lack of knowledge about it. And usually they don't appear like that at first so that's how they reel you in

@Dulcimertunes

13 күн бұрын

You answered your own question

@echogl

3 күн бұрын

They are charming and manipulative.

He's a narcissist to the extreme.

How was she able to purchase a gun,.. bc she just got out of hospital 2 months ago. Thought we had laws to prevent this from happening 🤔

@susankeith326

13 күн бұрын

Evidently laws are no deterrent and are often ineffective, particularly gun control laws.

@FaunaFloraFae

13 күн бұрын

This is South Carolina

John Paul's CAR was no where near Micah. That doesnt mean he wasnt there tormenting her or pushing her to suicide.

I feel so badly for Mica. I have bipolar II and related to many of the bipolar traits you listed, like being impulsive and easily being mistreated by people. Maybe this case has gripped me so much because learning about it I think “there but for the grace of God go I.” If only she could see the support she’s been receiving from people around the world. Rest in peace, Mica ❤

@skepticusmaximus184

13 күн бұрын

This saying has always triggered me a bit. I don't personally believe any such god or it's 'grace' exists. But then if it did, then you seem to be saying that YOU deserve gods grace, whereas this poor woman didn't. You see, you might just as easily say 'there but for the LACK of gods grace goes she.' Why do you deserve grace and she doesn't? It's like you're either saying that you deserve grace and she doesn't, or gods a capricious asshole dishing out grace and/or dismay with no rhyme or reason. I don't mean to sound mean but it's really a self-righteous depity to proclaim a God favouring you for no good reason. Grace and faith are actually ugly, selfish, irresponsible ideas IMHO.

@AnnSmajstrla

13 күн бұрын

@@skepticusmaximus184 I understand what you’re saying. I’m not very religious; I guess I’ve just thought that it’s a more … poetic (?) way of saying “that could have happened to me.” I had never thought of the points you raised but I appreciate you confronting me with them. In case it wasn’t clear - I don’t believe that God favored me and not Mica.

@skepticusmaximus184

13 күн бұрын

@@AnnSmajstrla Wow. That was quick. Yeah I'm a bit of a hard-line atheist. I figure many people mean something more metaphorical or poetic with these sayings, but still cringe to hear 'God bless you' l, or 'thank the lord for that'. It's robs humanity of our own dignity and agency for our merits or lack thereof. Even for negative stuff, 'idle hands are the devils work' (because god's never responsible for any bad stuff), is still couched in religious rhetoric. The problem is, its not even certain that as many as half the religious adherents take it as metaphorically as you might intend it. One person's quaint religious metaphor is another's entrenched dogma. I honestly don't mean to berate everyone for every slight reference to religious ideas, but the 'grace of god' thing gets WAY up my nose. I'm glad you understood my point. 😉

@AnnSmajstrla

13 күн бұрын

@@skepticusmaximus184It was a quick response because I have no life - HAHA (😭) I hear you. I guess I’ll be more mindful when I encounter situations where I’d want to use that phrase.

@skepticusmaximus184

13 күн бұрын

@@AnnSmajstrla No life? You too? Welcome to MY life. 😜

Been waiting for you to cover this case!🙂 Thanks Dr. Grande!

Its amazing that some odd ball kind of church actually had the funding to construct a nice building AND employs a self appointed minister😢

As far as I'm concerned the word "Pastor" is always a red flag

My husband was bi polar. It’s a horrible illness. He was very consistent in taking his medication but the one or two times he forgot-wow! Paranoia was a huge issue for him. I feel so bad for Mica-and that narsassist she married was an abuser. What a monster.

It also seems off that she shot herself to death. Its so violent and messy. Ive read its not usual for women to shoot themselves in the head? However, it happens. This preacher is definitely guilty of being a real narcissistic abuser.

Thank you Dr. Grande for looking into the case of Mica Miller. I think the more attention this case receives, the more chances there are for a thorough investigation into the local police enforcements lack of protection, JP Miller, the Church, the lack of complete autopsy done. I believe Mica was only diagnosed with bipolar once she married JP. The hospital that did the involuntary admittance of Mica did it on a paper that wasn't even filed with the courts. This allowed him to get her vehicle, keys, purse, cell phone and laptop. In which he was able to delete any and all evidence Mica had been collecting against JP.

How incredibly sad. May she rest in peace ❤

Bi-Polar Disorder is no joke. R.I.P. Shawnna

@l-train7876

13 күн бұрын

Her name is Mica.

You cannot know the terror, despair and hopelessness of Mica. Please keep you razor sharp instincts honed on JP himself Dr Grande. His TRUCK was see miles from the scene…HE HIMSELF was not. I believe when you do the follow up to this, you will nail it. ❤️

Why would she gas up if she’s going to kill herself??