I have had a recurring nightmare about being back in high school. I don't know why anyone would want to go back.

@tron.44

20 күн бұрын

Same. I remember when I graduated from high school decades upon decades ago, and I kept having nightmares over the following summer. The nightmares had me convinced I had to return to school because of a clerical error that granted me a diploma prematurely. Thank goodness it wasn't true, my school was a war zone. Literally.

@Lilstinkysweater

20 күн бұрын

​@@tron.44this is crazy because this is also my recurring nightmare. Exact same scenario and everything.

@sibyl513

20 күн бұрын

I get those too. It's gotta be those people who view their school years as the peak of their lives

@NobodyHasToAgreeAllTheTime

20 күн бұрын

Facts I have a recurring nightmare about being in middle school. I can tell I’m an adult but no one else notices and I’m forced to go to classes

@oldpunker885

20 күн бұрын

Some people peaked in high school

"The students teased her and told her she looked 30, when in fact they were incorrect. She was actually 32." 🤣. Dr Grande is off the hook. LOL.

@brianbagnall3029

20 күн бұрын

The kids are definitely smarter than their teachers.

@curlyhairdudeify

20 күн бұрын

​@@brianbagnall3029 I work at X-place, and my supervisor tells me that I'm going to get in trouble for guesstimating people's ages.... She is like, "How do you know she is 30, how do you know he is 50"..... I'm like, I have eyes.

@whitepouch0904

20 күн бұрын

@@curlyhairdudeify eyes and intuition

@DavidPT40

20 күн бұрын

Dr. Grande comes off with some great one liners....

@zxyatiywariii8

20 күн бұрын

​@@curlyhairdudeifyThere's a guy where I used to work who was brilliant at that, he could guess anyone's age _to the exact year!_ It was so cool!

So 13yr old students thought the story didn’t add up, but 2 adults giving her a place to stay didn’t seem alarmed? Hmmmm

@andyygroe

11 күн бұрын

The fact they both retained higher powered attorneys leads me to believe something more sinister was afoot. Maybe this couple was into younger girls if you catch my drift, but didn't realize they were being played too. In a way it's poetic justice.

@1WEareBUFO1

10 күн бұрын

Swinger Role-playing went too far

@chrw756

9 күн бұрын

​@@andyygroeTbh it makes sense to me. Like, you're a bleeding heart social worker and you think you're overstepping a professional boundry in an altruistic way by helping a homeless teen, Only to find out she's a 30yr old fraudster making news headlines. I'd lawyer up too.

@andyygroe

8 күн бұрын

@@chrw756 doesn't make sense. Even bleeding heart "liberals'" don't just bring underage girls into their homes

@user-hj1gv9ir9u

4 күн бұрын

They knew she was an adult. ​@@chrw756

"Her appearance is caused by a genetic condition." Yeah. It's called aging.

@madmaverick

17 күн бұрын

And worse still, it's terminal!

@puddincup9879

16 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@ArtemisKitty

14 күн бұрын

OMG, I can't believe this comment doesn't have more updoots! You're killin' me! Well, here's one more! 🤣🤣🤣

@fabirkemarian6370

13 күн бұрын

​@@madmavericki understand they're still searching for a cure to this common condition among humans.😂

@anpgl

12 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

Having to hang out with seventh graders all day would drive me to the brink

@someguy7424

20 күн бұрын

To be fair, most kids I went to school with in 7th grade were more well behaved than many adults I’ve had to tolerate.

@peaceandquiet1983

20 күн бұрын

It did me in, that grade. I'll NEVER teach junior high ever again.

@melissamartinez3593

20 күн бұрын

Right what a crazy ass hoooo

@y_knot_tri

19 күн бұрын

Dude, she is already way past the brink.

@adotintheshark4848

19 күн бұрын

if she was a guy I'd think "pedo"

She was pretending to be 13 but drove a car to school and even THAT wasn't enough? Oh my gosh.

@ivanbasson982

20 күн бұрын

Maybe it is not unusual to complete Lower Grade School at 30...

@cbadbeachbabe69

20 күн бұрын

She was pretending to be 16 when she was driving the car to school

@ranman7688

20 күн бұрын

I think she was only doing that at the school where she was pretending to be 16.

@1stcal11-b2

20 күн бұрын

Hahahaha! Imagine her being 13, smoking a cigarette, diving a Tahoe telling stories about being in Vietnam while sitting in the cafeteria eating a pudding snack!? 😂👏😂👏😂👏😂

@LBdreamin

20 күн бұрын

It was when she was portraying the INDIGENT 16 y/o. They were surprised she was driving a car because of her socioeconomic status, not her age.

She was teased, students saying she looked 30 . . . "The students, of course, were incorrect, she was actually 32". Your penchant for dry humor never ceases to amaze . . .

@appletherapy

15 күн бұрын

She has a stronger jawline than me and I'm a couple years younger than her.

@RaptorFromWeegee

3 күн бұрын

@@appletherapy No kidding, I thought she looked pretty damned young. She probably got sick of doormen demanding her ID or not believing she was over 21. Said to herself; "They think I'm underaged? That what they want? FINE, I'll really give them some underage!"

The scariest part is that she was well educated with a mastered degree?? And was a school counselor. This is why we can never judge a book by its cover. People are CRAZY.

@jguenther3049

18 күн бұрын

Using the term "crazy" is insensitive and may even trigger some people, with.serious consequences. The preferred 21st Century terminology is "barmy in the crumpet."

@SoulSoundMuisc

18 күн бұрын

​@jguenther3049 oh, dang and here I've been using wackadoodle in the noodle! I'm so behind the times.

@jguenther3049

17 күн бұрын

@@SoulSoundMuisc There's always non compost mentis

@outoftheboxies

17 күн бұрын

Only in Merica

@mammadingo9165

17 күн бұрын

Yep and here I was hesitating to create a website for my art 🤷‍♀️ 😅 goodness me this lady beyond flipped

People thought a 30-year-old woman was 13? Her skincare routine must be immaculate.

@carfo

20 күн бұрын

most people don't understand just how effective social engineering is

@HeyitsBri_

20 күн бұрын

I want a tutorial immediately

@Nom8d

20 күн бұрын

I mean teenagers are not exactly known for their skin.

@user-ql6qg7bh3p

20 күн бұрын

Gives hope to all the 40 year old women trying to pass themselves off as 27!😂

@aleksandarkovacevic7138

20 күн бұрын

Cosmetic companies doesnt want you to know her secret

What is the idea of pretending to be 13 when you're an adult? I WOULD NOT want to go back to that part of my life if you gave me a billion dollars.

@cjjohnson9413

20 күн бұрын

mic-not even if you knew what you do now?

@matthewcunningham1190

20 күн бұрын

A billion $$$ on damn that’s tempting!

@OhtheSuffering

20 күн бұрын

Jokes aside, I think some people just grow weary of the demands of adulthood and want to go back to that carefree part of their lives. Hanging with friends, sitting and sleeping through an inconsequential class, feeling the zest of youth, etc.

@plumucci

20 күн бұрын

The only rationale I can see is if a social worker wanted to find out hidden truths to write a book about or something? There is a story out and about of a female cop who did this as these kids live n such a private world-but this doesn’t sound rational.

@ImNotaRussianBot

20 күн бұрын

This is my literal nightmare.

If she had pretended to be in grade 10 instead of seventh grade she might have got away with it

@brandonburum8279

15 күн бұрын

…if it weren’t for those meddling kids, right?

@RaptorFromWeegee

3 күн бұрын

@@brandonburum8279 LMFAO! Was just goin to post the same thing. Only gen-x gets the reference.

@brandonburum8279

3 күн бұрын

@@RaptorFromWeegee - Technically, I’m a Millennial, but an older one…

@warrensteel9954

3 күн бұрын

It sounds like she didn't like the amount of homework...

@RaptorFromWeegee

3 күн бұрын

@@brandonburum8279 They still had scooby-do in your day?

Crazy how they tried to gaslight the kids who knew she wasn't their age by acting like "stop being mean, you guys! She has a genetic condition and she's very sensitive :(

@RaptorFromWeegee

3 күн бұрын

They've aggressively proclaimed big hulking genetic males with thick beards and deep scary voices as girls. Is it that much more of a leap to proclaim 32 yr old a teen? And enforce the proclamation by threat of cancelation?

This does not make sense to me at all! She has a masters degree, a state full-time job, and an inheritance, and she goes back to high school? My brain hurts.😢

@ArtU4All

20 күн бұрын

And she gets to NOT do her FT job while receiving the salary. Also, what inheritance if family had money trouble and and filed for bankruptcy several times? Buy a condo for cash, $377K?????? Bizarre and very successful for someone with a “mental health” problem

@evelynwaugh4053

20 күн бұрын

It would almost make sense if she was an investigative journalist, or a documentarian, or a writer, although it would still be very Machiavelian and amoral. She must be a very strange person to find attention based on fabrication rewarding, or to enjoy the society of teens as peers.

@francislutz8027

20 күн бұрын

Middle school, 7th grade

@heidiespinoza6786

20 күн бұрын

Last year, there was a case involving a Korean postgraduate from Rutdger's. She went to school for a few days before getting caught. She told the judge she missed the time of her life when she felt safer.

@MsAchampion

20 күн бұрын

She's a special kind of person because I would have been far far away from a high school!

School staff: Why is that kid's car nicer than mine?

@larryjohnny

20 күн бұрын

I think you mean, why is her e-bike better than my car?

@starmiesteele1034

20 күн бұрын

Ikr middle school jeez..I don't get it

@13donstalos

19 күн бұрын

Also: why is she the only 7th grader that drives to school?

@remypascal4872

17 күн бұрын

School staff: "Be tolerant and let her compensate, that she is a poor girl with her older look!" The poor girl card is playable at these chaotic, wannabe modern educators and social workers, school psychologists.

@kendraheard8240

17 күн бұрын

😂😂

Uuuuugh middle school. If there is a hell, it's all of us waking up in an eternal middle school.

@sarahjaye4117

19 күн бұрын

Ugh for real! Both my best friends moved and then we did, what a nightmare.

@strumminronin

19 күн бұрын

Proper hellish years.

@XiaoFury

18 күн бұрын

I wish I knew about Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide while I was in middle school. That show was a hoot, but some of the tips were helpful. I absolutely hated middle school.

@Hobiemyhubby

16 күн бұрын

Stop this comment literally gave me chills... Not the eternal middle school 😭😭

@TranswealthyTrillionaire

15 күн бұрын

I understand wanting to go back to high school, but anyone who wants to go back to middle school is a nutcase

I think I'll throw a "Now moving to my final thoughts" into every conversation from now on.

@sarahjaye4117

19 күн бұрын

Ha

@JenniferNewLife144

18 күн бұрын

lol

@jemsmom97

16 күн бұрын

😂

@AdaptiveApeHybrid

16 күн бұрын

If only people were normally this succinct 😍

@djquinn11

15 күн бұрын

Why not, “I’m only speculating about what could be happening in a situation like this”?

😂 the children had more intelligence than their educators.

@GAshoneybear

20 күн бұрын

Right? I was wondering how no adult questioned her or her story.

@Tainotito40

20 күн бұрын

Like 45 a PATHOLOGICAL liar

@sugarpuddin

20 күн бұрын

To be sure, narcissists move themselves into positions of power: education, politics, law enforcement

@Hollylivengood

20 күн бұрын

Middle schoolers. Remember that age? They notice everything. We saw all kinds of things at that age, and would tell the adults around us...who would tell us we were lying, just like they did with these kids. Mercy. It probably made it a game for them that way.

@SynthoidSounds

20 күн бұрын

These days, the concept of the students having more intelligence than the teachers is not that far-fetched at all.

So the kids recognized she was older but none of the adults did?

@AH-pw1im

20 күн бұрын

Yes :'] go figure.

@mikepalmer2219

20 күн бұрын

Just another example of why I roll my eyes when people act like teachers are something special and exalted. Lol.

@Lepordtalonwarrior

20 күн бұрын

@@mikepalmer2219literally nobody claims that. If you actually talk to educators, they’d let you know that they are all regular people and fallible.

@mikepalmer2219

20 күн бұрын

@@Lepordtalonwarrior Ok whatever. We are always told how teachers are somehow special. Lol.

@HumanimalChannel

20 күн бұрын

The wokies were too busy Affirming every unicorn flurfie and transchild

A registered Social Worker with a Masters degree ... yet she invited a client into her home ? Her understanding of professional boundaries and ethical behaviour was abysmal ffs

@olliefoxx7165

17 күн бұрын

Sounds very suspicious. Like there was something else going on

@Milktube

13 күн бұрын

@@olliefoxx7165 No, just normal everyday female incompetence and unprofessionalism.

@andyygroe

11 күн бұрын

The fact they both separately hired high powered attorneys confirms it.

We can be judged for judging others yet mocked for not trusting our gut feelings about something.

Who'd even want to go back to 7th grade? As i recall, it wasn't all that much fun the first time around.

@NickvonZ

20 күн бұрын

Kindergarten, I could see. 😁

@user-zq9vi3gj2q

20 күн бұрын

You recall correctly

@sari9645

20 күн бұрын

No literally 😭 that’s like the worst year of school

@frakismaximus3052

20 күн бұрын

A sexual predator, obviously. But we can't call a spade a spade, especially when the spade is a woman.

@HeyitsBri_

20 күн бұрын

I had a blast in 7th grade

I would have falsified my identity to get OUT of high school.

@MusMasi

19 күн бұрын

ikr? 🤣

@sarahjaye4117

19 күн бұрын

Lol

@vivienm2037

17 күн бұрын

Same

@allkindsamusicchick

17 күн бұрын

I had nightmares for years....that I didn't graduate....when I actually had. Something about Biology Class....

@jlseagull2.060

17 күн бұрын

Me2

“The students teased her and said she looks like she’s 30. They were of course incorrect. Shelby was actually at that time 32.” I subscribed immediately 😅

there’s not enough money on this planet that could send me back to grade 7.

@Dbaranioglu

5 күн бұрын

Lol 😂

DCF hiring people like this makes me understand why they are so incompetent

@LilithsCosmicLounge

20 күн бұрын

It explains a lot really,.. a lot of ppl in positions they shouldn’t be in…

@ivanbasson982

20 күн бұрын

Maybe Shelby is just very immatire for her age....

@hanniballecter4454

20 күн бұрын

I know a dcfs supervisor who had lost her 2 kids, let time pass, and is now a supervisor there. These jobs attract these kinds of people, they need to do a court background check.

@Wardaddy51-50

20 күн бұрын

​@hanniballecter4454 maybe she got the job for revenge.

@Rebecca-hc5ju

20 күн бұрын

​@@hanniballecter4454😮😮

Going back to college would be fun. Going back to high school? No.

@Jennifermcintyre

20 күн бұрын

Right!! I’d have to completely lose my entire mind to even think about doing that!!

@KaliTP83

20 күн бұрын

Right.

@lostsoul1278

20 күн бұрын

Bullied??

@annaf3915

20 күн бұрын

I'd like to go back to elementary so I can really shine with my grades

@cassiefuchs3657

19 күн бұрын

Plus you don't even have to create a new identity for college.

Kids seem to have an intuition when something is 'wrong' with someone who is interacting with them---hunches when someone seems 'pervy' or unsafe to them, or someone not being truthful....

@puddincup9879

16 күн бұрын

And the no good adults ignore them!

@gerontodon

9 сағат бұрын

You don't need any special intuition to tell a woman in her 30's from a 13 yr old.

It's frustrating to see so many comments saying some variation of "why would she do this!?" While Dr. Grande does bring up the possibility of personality disorders (she was never tested or diagnosed), the reality is she is absolutely suffering from serious mental health issues because of a traumatic childhood. Her parents failed to prepare her for the responsibilities of adult life, leaving her unable to navigate the inevitable stress of making her own way in the world, and so she reverted (mentally first then literally) back to a time when her life was more structured and she had less responsibility. While I feel sad for her I want to broaden the conversation out to the larger American society, because there are MANY people that struggle with adult life because they didn't have good models for adult living when they were young. Their parents are abusive and neglectful, emotionally immature and irresponsible in many different ways. While Shelby's case was extreme, I would guess that most Americans long for the structure of grade school. Our society has failed to provide adequate models for living throughout adult life, and many people don't get the teaching and modeling they need in childhood to know *how* to be an adult. Their bodies are grown up but they're still children inside. They then go on to have children of their own, repeating the cycle and passing the trauma onto the next generation. Shelby's parents were themselves children in some way. And again, most of us were raised by adult children that don't teach us how to regulate our emotions or meet our own needs. This is what has to be recognized and confronted if we want to help people like Shelby become productive members of society, instead of perpetual teenagers.

@andyygroe

11 күн бұрын

You really wrote a fucking novel sized response to this??? Get your life bro

@Lydynthmn

Күн бұрын

@@andyygroe Some people can write really fast. I could easily type all that in a minute.

I bet lots of people could tell she was older, but didn’t want to offend her by bringing it up.

@melissadunton3534

20 күн бұрын

Yep. Because the world we live in today isn’t friendly to facts or truth. I don’t see how she did anything wrong…if she identifies as a 13 year old then she is a 13 years old…right?

@somehaloguy9372

19 күн бұрын

​@@melissadunton3534 that wasn't it, it was the fraud and forged documents that got her

@jennyhaslayer1396

19 күн бұрын

​@@melissadunton3534 youre a freak for not seeing the clear difference in those two things, thanks.

@melissadunton3534

19 күн бұрын

@@jennyhaslayer1396 in what two things? I don’t see where I mentioned anything specifically… other than someone’s “age”.

@dickjohnson9582

19 күн бұрын

​@@melissadunton3534so you think that's the problem with today's world not accepting facts? That there are too many people pretending to be a different age.

Well, that's enough internet for me today 😮. Off to the garden to plant azaleas it is, then.

@hannahriley8085

20 күн бұрын

Good choice!

@yoitired

20 күн бұрын

I feel you, backyard camping for me.

@madwhitehare3635

20 күн бұрын

Nearer to God in a garden than anywhere else on earth...especially Uchoobs!

@sarahschlichter6059

20 күн бұрын

😂

My goodness, what a bizarre tale! And while I generally enjoy Todd's story-telling, I feel there are a few holes in this reconstruction of events. So Shelby was living with "foster parents" while doing all of this school-swapping, as well as maintaining a full-time job as a social service worker? How could the couple not know something strange was going on, especially when she "time-travelled" not once, but twice, from 13 to 16 to 13 again? Also, I would have liked more discussion as to possible motive, because this just begs the question, "WHY???" I'm left wishing that the story was longer, and supplied more detail as to how exactly she carried out this deception and was able to get away with it. Not that I want to follow in her footsteps lol. Like many other commenters, high school is the LAST place I'd want to go, if I could time travel, but still....I'm left feeling rather unsatisfied and confused. "Curiouser and curiouser...."

I work at a school with an age range up to grade 12. In my opinion, she clearly looks physically different than any teen I’ve seen. How the adult staff and guidance counselors are unable to see that she’s not a teen is flabbergasting.

A social worker?! This is....disturbing.

@RoseRoseRoseRoseRoseRose

20 күн бұрын

01:37 And she isn't actually one either. 😂

@Griftospherequalitycontrol

20 күн бұрын

That's not very progressive of you.

@pameladee

19 күн бұрын

I’m not surprised, trust me on this…

@caulkins69

19 күн бұрын

There have been accounts of social workers faking their paperwork to make it look like they were doing their job when they really weren't.

@louisewright8769

19 күн бұрын

The poor kids they are always the victims .

As wacky as this woman's behavior is she's actually wildly creative determined and imaginative. It's alarming how many people she fooled. This is most def NETFLIX material. Thank u, Dr G.

@sherry8444

20 күн бұрын

The Orphan (2009) already done this exact plot

@ArtU4All

20 күн бұрын

I found Netflix “documentaries” biased and sensationalist, never truly getting to the gut of the issues from all possible sides. Just a vehicle to get views. Stopped watching them. Last I watched was the billionaire-Epstein one

@maxw5900

20 күн бұрын

It's nice that you're praising her 🙄, smh.

@poindextertunes

20 күн бұрын

⁠@@maxw5900great takeaway there, champ

@magovenor

20 күн бұрын

Really? But the kids at an urban school were able to see through her in no time. She only fraudulently got passed those same adults who demand that kids don’t have to accept their gender identity from birth.

I used to have nightmares of being back in High School. It would either be me at my locker and not remembering my code to open the locker and freaking out or I would be at the end of the lunch line and forget my lunch code. I do NOT want to repeat any portion of my school days.

@thestraggletag2616

17 күн бұрын

id dream i had a year long project due the next day. Wake up and took me a min to realise im in my 30s

@ResinEssenceByCheri

16 күн бұрын

In my nightmares, I couldn’t remember where my locker was and I couldn’t find my class schedule so I had no idea where I was supposed to be. Nobody should ever have much stress while trying to have a good night’s sleep!

@deborahwinter5018

13 күн бұрын

Lol

Kind of weird for the therapist at the facility took home a (to her knowledge) trafficking victim to her husband and their apartment…

@joenunya8449

15 күн бұрын

Right. "We'll save you"... What kind of "Enemy of the State" lie did she use to stay off book? "My pimp has an insider at dcf who will find me if you register me..."

@pet.me102

15 күн бұрын

Same thought. But my guess is that they have such a big heart to let a 13-year old girl who was a trafficking victim, live with them. This is similar to white parents adopting kids from Africa or Asia.

@andyygroe

11 күн бұрын

I don't see the similarities at all. This creepy couple both hired high powered attorneys and have a history of "adopting" young high risk teen girls from the wife's work. Sickos most likely. Lock them up too

If I had inherited a million dollars when I was young and single, I certainly wouldn’t go back to my school days. I attended five high schools, four of them in two years (due to family issues and moving a lot). I also attended five elementary schools and one junior high (7-9). I have zero desire to return to those days.

@ContentRemoved___

19 күн бұрын

Happy Gilmore

@lisapalmeno4488

18 күн бұрын

And working a job for $51,000 a year... Ridiculous.

@Job.Well.Done_01

18 күн бұрын

How do you think all that change directed your life as you grew to become an adult?

@katherinemurphree6858

18 күн бұрын

Billy Madison

You just said exactly what my conclusion was, Dr. Grande, she had such a lousy life as a 13 and 16yo, she wanted to reconstrut it to make it right, and she was a "social worker" to help others. I feel sadness with this case, who knows how her mind perceived her life at the *actual* ages of 13 and 16... Thank you Dr. G!

@mrs.reluctant4095

19 күн бұрын

I feel sad for her for the same reason, thank you for your comment.

@edmann1820

17 күн бұрын

100% agree. I'd add that there was almost certainly a motivation of a cry for help. It does seem like she wanted to be caught. Perhaps seeing the care/sympathy people had for 13 year old who have suffered abuse she wanted that care and attention herself.

@JA-jx1hk

16 күн бұрын

No lol she just wanted to prey on teenage boys

@andyygroe

11 күн бұрын

Hey zealot your heart is bleeding. She was a sick and twisted bitch. Period.

You couldn't pay me enough to go back to school I've already done. I work with a few high schoolers now, and any time they mention what homework they have, I say "I definitely don't miss high school."

I'm 73 years old but could probably get away with claiming to be 72.

@Christina.N.

18 күн бұрын

😂

@Lydynthmn

Күн бұрын

Lol

Nice to see a case that doesn't involve a hideous crime. This one did relatively little harm to anyone but it's remarkable the amount of effort Shelby put into this scheme with a weak or unclear motive..

@BouncyBrown

19 күн бұрын

At the start of the video, I was worried she was a child predator or something. This case is even weirder with no apparent motive.

@Dialogos1989

19 күн бұрын

Maybe she just missed being a kid

@JA-jx1hk

16 күн бұрын

She simply failed at starting a relationship with a minor but that’s obviously what she was really there for

@RemReactsTV

15 күн бұрын

Maybe she is doing a high school study 🤷🏽‍♀️ watch her come out with a book 😂

@joenunya8449

15 күн бұрын

Like Annie Lennox said, they either want to use you, or want to be used... Which one was she?

i used to have this nightmare ... in it, i'm a grown man with a career and family and my high school principal knocks on my door and tells me that i didn't finish high school... at first, i feel cool about it cause high school was fun for me and i think i get to do it all again... cool right?... but then when i get there and hanging out with the kids in class, i , then i realize that i'm a grown man hanging out with kids... it's a nightmare... the moral, i suppose, is to study hard and enshrine that diploma and if you see your principal knocking at your door ... don't answer it....

@robertharvilla4881

19 күн бұрын

I would be surprised if everyone hasn't had that dream. It's kind of like dreaming about showing up to school or work naked. Not necessarily scary, but just awkward af. LOL

@M-yb1cc

19 күн бұрын

Adam Sandler?

@allisonholliday3959

17 күн бұрын

I had a teacher that was rough and I had anxiety so bad. That was 15 years ago and I still dream about him and his class. Nope.

Posing as a middle school student when in your 30s is absolutely insane.

@MrThe1234guy

16 күн бұрын

No the fact that anyone believed her is more insane

Normal person inherits a million dollars: i'm going to disneyland! Crazy person inherits a million dollars: i'm going back to high school!

@Starry_Night_Sky7455

15 күн бұрын

Oh this needs an interview. I mean why? Just to do it? Was it a dare?

Something similar happened in Fairfax , VA in the year 2000. A 27 y/o man made fake Dreamworks documents, posed as Steven Spielberg’s nephew, “Jonathan Taylor Spielberg,” and enrolled in a Catholic high school for some time. No one asked any questions. It was quite the scandal.

@PamelaH_HappyVibes

20 күн бұрын

How do they get away with this? It doesn’t make any sense.

@mikepalmer2219

20 күн бұрын

Did he give a reason as to why he did it? This stuff is so freaking weird.

@Katarina-ds5mj

20 күн бұрын

Posed as Spielberg’s nephew and enrolled in a Catholic High School? Did they ask him why he wasn’t Jewish like the rest of Spielberg’s family?

@ronfroehlich4697

20 күн бұрын

There was a 24 year old guy that went to my high school for a minute in the nineties. Turned out he was wanted for murder in another state and was pretending to be a school kid to evade the law

@zxyatiywariii8

20 күн бұрын

Why? Was he making a documentary or something? You couldn't PAY me to go to school as a 7th grader! 😳

Dr. Grande is the hardest working man on KZread!

@mindareinetels6047

20 күн бұрын

I agree

@jackiescotland

20 күн бұрын

He's good and I enjoy his videos but not as good as Pat Brown criminal profiler's channel

There's something discomforting about a licensed social worker with a Masters Degree taking in what they believe to be a minor without following the proper procedure.

I hated school but part of me wonders if I'd go back in time, knowing what I know now and do it differently and erase the trauma of it...chances are I'd just embarrass myself in new ways though.

Reminds me of the Twilight franchise: superpowered young-adult looking immortals that perpetually attend highschool for some reason.

@user-zq9vi3gj2q

20 күн бұрын

With the Pinterest inspired graduation cap art?

@chris3325

20 күн бұрын

The reason was to pick up jailbait. Which is probably what this broad was up to.

@MusMasi

19 күн бұрын

They are all old enough looking to at least go to college, If I had the choice of either being in Uni/College or HighSchool Perpetually High School does not even come close to college I would always choose college and at least I could take different courses and there is enough to learn that my mind wont go insane, could do post graduate studies as well.

@inpropriapaislee

19 күн бұрын

This was explained in the books and movies, though. The Cullen family would pick an area to live and try to start out there appearing to be as young as possible in order to stay in the area for a longer period of time. Carlisle and Esme most importantly could claim to be much younger if the kids were starting high school than if they were college age. It also helped cement them as a family of adopted children and keep any eyebrows from being raised on that front. That was the explanation given, at least.

@MusMasi

19 күн бұрын

@@inpropriapaislee You could do university/college undergrad, post grad and work, 10 years, Highschool is only 5,

Your type of humor is so funny. The delivery is even better.

@mindareinetels6047

20 күн бұрын

Love it 😀 ❤

@poindextertunes

20 күн бұрын

his delivery is 👌🏻 the writing is hit or miss. sometimes its pretty corny

@alexhauser5043

17 күн бұрын

Smarmy midwit? He comes across as the rare Redditor who managed to acquire a post-graduate degree.

Weird weird weird. Hanging around with 13 year old sounds like the worst day ever

As a person who tries to help honest in most of my life, I can’t help but feel that we are living in a age of liars. The truth will set you free people, and it so much easier to keep your story straight when you tell the truth

@thewatcher7823

16 күн бұрын

When one knows the truth, and isn't gaslit to another dimension, sure. It could be true it's an age of liars. At that point, the truth has already become harder to anchor to. It's not a simple task of questioning one's own beliefs and biases.

As a retired LCSW Social Worker, educated in that field, this sickens me. I can only imagine she was hired with no background check. That seems incredible.

@zach4677

20 күн бұрын

I'm an LCSW and I spent my supervision years working for a state agency. I couldn't imagine working full time while pretending to be a kid. It would be an impossibility considering the workload and micromanagement...

@Griftospherequalitycontrol

20 күн бұрын

That's not very progressive of you.

@MusMasi

19 күн бұрын

@@zach4677 Seems like she didn't work much if at all.

@misslayer3340

15 күн бұрын

She was hired before she actually committed the crime so they probably did do a background check but nothing showed up

School was tough enough first time round.....

@Cinder_311

20 күн бұрын

Right! Who in their right mind would want to go back

@courtneycormier5937

20 күн бұрын

Ikr

@icin4d

20 күн бұрын

For me, college and university was so much better than high school. A different mindset. High school was boring and mandatory.

@nickid5210

20 күн бұрын

💯

@M-yb1cc

19 күн бұрын

@@Cinder_311 popular kids? (coming from a non-popular kid who never wants to go back)

If I wanted to pretend to go back to school, I'd choose kindergarten. No homework, and naptime. Though, I think it would be a bit hard to pull it off at 65. Oh, damn ... I'm retired, everyday is naptime 😀

@Dwh1960

19 күн бұрын

😅

I’m a social worker of 15yrs. Thank you for making clear that she had no social work training or credentials. THIS is why title protection is SO important. This whole situation and her struggles are quite unfortunate.

Teacher: I notice your history grades are dropping. 13 year old: Let's talk about your retirement portfolio. How do you afford that Tesla out there on a teacher's salary?😂

I have this as a reoccurring dream. I’m always back in high school and remembering it doesn’t matter cause I’ve graduated college so I skip a bunch of classes.

@FaizaFarah-pj4dz

20 күн бұрын

Same here. I thought I was the only one.

@egoborder3203

20 күн бұрын

recurring

@avoiceinthedark2028

20 күн бұрын

@@egoborder3203 oh, thank you! I never realized that before

@ronald3836

20 күн бұрын

You should start taking piano lessons in your dreams.

@phazebeast7373

20 күн бұрын

Same here! Or I'm in highschool without a shirt or something and I get embarrassed lol in the dream

In Scotland a man went back to school to pass exams to get in to medical school to be a Doctor.

@Janellabelle

18 күн бұрын

There's not an alternative route for adults to do that in Scotland? It's either when you're 17 or never? Or was he just a weirdo that wanted to go back to high school?

@Air_Serpent

15 күн бұрын

I mean- That's understandable

@Janellabelle

15 күн бұрын

@@Air_Serpent lol I think this story needs more details

@gerontodon

9 сағат бұрын

I remember that story. It was in the late 80's or early 90's as I remember.

@gerontodon

9 сағат бұрын

​@@Janellabelle I'm English, but I remember it, it was decades ago. I don't know what the rules were in Scotland then, but nowadays there are Access courses for adults who want to go to university but lack the qualifications. He must have wanted the teaching more than just the qualifications suppose, because he would have needed to forge documents to go through with his plan, so he could have just forged certificates.

I had a housemate named Shelby. She was a pathological liar. She promised a couple her baby and took payments, housing and food from them, then reneged after three months. She stole from me, lied about having a job, and and and. Sh stayed with me 2 months. Very scary person.

So strange. She had a job but stopped going to work so she could do school AGAIN.

@BluejThompson

20 күн бұрын

I’m from Boston and have been following this story for some time. She was essentially moonlighting with social services. There is absolutely no accountability on their part as to how she was collecting a salary as well as not knowing she wasn’t doing her job.

@sandravega6645

19 күн бұрын

​@BluejThompson Now that's scary, getting a salary as a social worker and having no accountability for your time on the job. 😮

@alexhauser5043

17 күн бұрын

She was (is?) reasonably attractive, too. If she just didn't want to work for a living, she could have found a husband to provide for her.

@Respectfully_

16 күн бұрын

​@@alexhauser5043people shame women for wanting that lifestyle now.

@alexhauser5043

16 күн бұрын

@@Respectfully_ Who cares? Working is for ugly women.

Weird, I got kicked out of obedience school almost immediately. Took only a few minutes to realize I wasn't really a dog. Some people on the internet take longer than that to figure it out.

@jguenther3049

18 күн бұрын

Woof, woof! Arf!

@olliefoxx7165

17 күн бұрын

​@@jguenther3049Good point

@standardsarhy5319

17 күн бұрын

In today's world it doesn't matter at all that you are not physically a dog - it only matters that you say that you IDENTIFY as a dog. I'm sure there's a crafty salivating lawyer out there who would be happy to sue the obedience school for discrimination.

@hitchmille

16 күн бұрын

🤣

@Bluefalconspiracies

15 күн бұрын

Try passing as a fish

I've had nightmares where I'm adult and am back in high school. Not because of bullying or threats, but because it was just so boring and required so much class-work and home-work.

There's lots of comments questioning why someone would want to go back to high school, yet the reason seams obvious to me. As someone who was a loser in junior high & high school, I understand the temptation to want to go back & rewrite history & change who I was. I'm sane enough to know that moving forward is my only option, but I still get it.

@GrumpyMeow-Meow

19 күн бұрын

Just to provide a different perspective, let me say that, although HS was awful, I would never go back to rewrite history. I became successful as an adult, and that was my way of setting the record right. Additionally, some of the people who made HS hell turned out to be losers in life. That’s all I need to know.

@WhiteChocolate74

17 күн бұрын

I think it could also be a desire to go back to a simpler time. Adult life is hard

@andyygroe

11 күн бұрын

Will we find you on some sex offender registry somewhere?

What interests me is how did she get along with her class mates? Was she an outsider? How could she stand hanging out with 13-year-olds?

@BouncyBrown

19 күн бұрын

I'm curious about this too. I'd imagine andry parents would speak out about this but maybe not. Also, the school owes an apology to the kids who could tell she was 30!

@sarahjaye4117

19 күн бұрын

Did she do her homework 😂

High and middle school worst years of my life!!! Would never want to relive it from a student’s POV! 🤦🏽‍♀️

Sad part is she got away with it. I hold BSW and worked Child Protective Services. One very big problem with Social Work is, government will hire ANYONE as a Social Worker! NASW has done NOTHING to fix this. Until this done ,no one will take Social Work seriously. She was a very sick person and should have never been able to get this far along in her lies.

she wanted to have a family, so she went back to HS? she had a job, creating identities, going back to HS, why not just go out on dates? that seems like an easier way to have a family.

Ok! Ok! 6:25 "Shelby was not motivated to learn anything in school....she was doing a pretty good job of impersonating a typical high school student." ROFL! Well done, Dr. G! It's why we love to listen to your analysis...best wishes from Florida.

@aphr0d

20 күн бұрын

that was a good one 😂

@maryabbott5005

19 күн бұрын

Ha! HA!! Couldn't Agree MORE..From Jax, FL...🤔🤩🎯💯🇺🇸🏛🗽💗

@jguenther3049

18 күн бұрын

Noted.

I don’t get it. There are obvious differences in a child than an adult that age. I’ve always looked younger for my age but I never get mistaken for a child. People must not pay attention or something

@someguy7424

20 күн бұрын

Yes, but there are outliers. Ralph Macchio in Karate Kid was older than Cole Hauser in Dazed and Confused.

@commonsense2680

20 күн бұрын

I agree. I still look younger for my age, but there is no way I at age 30 could pretend to be age 13, I definitely looked way different at age 13 than age 30!

@karyannfontaine8757

20 күн бұрын

I have also looked younger. Last time I was carded was when I was 45. At 74, it is amusing.

@lyndahadley2352

20 күн бұрын

It happens. A co-worker and her mother went out to eat, and the server brought my co-worker a coloring book and crayons. She was furious, lol!

@Auxius.

17 күн бұрын

@@lyndahadley2352 Who knows, perhaps the co-worker was actually a 13 y/o impersonating a 32 y/o xD always be vigilant after this story

I so appreciate you making the distinction between job title and actual credentials of the employee

I can't understand why somebody would want to do this.Thank you doctor😮

@DarkAngelOfTexas

20 күн бұрын

Especially after inheriting about a million dollars liars 🤔

@kodek1234

20 күн бұрын

I feel like that for a lot of the cases Dr Grande discusses. 😁

@NobodyHasToAgreeAllTheTime

20 күн бұрын

Arrested development

@smokeythebear6689

20 күн бұрын

Illegal immigrants have pulled this stunt in the UK.

@NobodyHasToAgreeAllTheTime

20 күн бұрын

@@smokeythebear6689 the states too. Be like 25 pretending to be a teenager 🤣

High school was the worst time in my life.

@Job.Well.Done_01

18 күн бұрын

Adulthood is way worse.

@Janellabelle

18 күн бұрын

It was a nonstop party for me.

@susanfarley1332

17 күн бұрын

@@Janellabelle for me it was torture. It didn't help that my parents were dead and I was living with my grandmother. She was a domineering abusive b****. Made me wear clothes she liked and all my clothes were at least two sizes too big. It sucks when everyone was wearing jeans and t shirts and I had to wear polyester pantsuits. Polyester is so hot to wear in the summer. And I looked like I was wearing a tent. The shoes I had to wear she thought were very cute but they were hard and dug into my heels causing bone growths. Finally the doctor told her to stop making me wear them due to my foot problems. But it was too late. Can't wear regular shoes now because it's so painful. Can't wear socks either unless they are very very loose. They make my feet cramp up. Until this day more than 50 years later my grandmother put so much damage on me I still feel it. No fun at all

@susanfarley1332

17 күн бұрын

@@Job.Well.Done_01 after getting away from my abusive grandmother when I turned 18, adulthood has been better for me. Not great but a lot better. She had plans that I was going to slave for her the rest of my life. Yeah, she had it all planned out. I ran away at 18, when she couldn't legally have me dragged back. And even then I waited until I married and had two kids before letting her know where I was. She dragged my mom back when she was 19, so I knew I had to have some kids so she couldn't do that to me. Hell,no. I was not going back to that woman.

@Job.Well.Done_01

17 күн бұрын

@@susanfarley1332 how did grandma die ?

I enjoyed your presentation. Your voice is soothing and easy to listen to. Subscribed and liked! 😊

Chronic liars often use lying to remove themselves from a past that torments them. The lying feels good and even opens doors of opportunity, so like a drug, it becomes habitual.

I was told that my comment here would generate an interesting dialogue.

@user-zq9vi3gj2q

20 күн бұрын

They always do😊

@QueenOfTheNorth65

20 күн бұрын

Sometimes.

@sca8217

20 күн бұрын

That was just someone speculating, not an actual diagnosis

@hannahriley8085

20 күн бұрын

I was expecting to hear she’d nonced up some teenage boy! She definitely has issues

@markc13579

20 күн бұрын

Hear-say testimony is not allowed. 😅😊😂

She must have been traumatized during this time in her life and is trying to relive it, or correct it. It’s sad she definitely needs counseling.

@Auxius.

17 күн бұрын

Think about it, this takes such meticulous planning, lying, interactions over such a LONG period of time- there is no way she is a victim, she's bored out of her mind and wondered how far she could take her dupe. She must've felt pretty smart duping everyone into living an entire second life and I guess that was her motivation. Perhaps there was a s--ual fantasy involved.

@alexhauser5043

17 күн бұрын

@@Auxius. "Perhaps there was a s--ual fantasy involved." DING DING DING. Were a man to do the same thing, everyone would immediately assume that he's a diddler.

I love your shows.They are always so interesting. Thank you Dr. G!

Remember the days when people pretended to be 13 on the Internet?

When i was 30 i was asked for ID when going to a club or pub. There was a club frequented by young students, i was moonlighting as a cocktail waitress and working in a bank by day, a weekend job. I became friendly with some of the patrons, one of the giys asked me if i would like to come party and stay at his parents house for the weekend as they were going away, he wouldn't believe me that i had my own flat, car a mother of a 4 year old, or my age. Was fun being in that environment as i had a grim childhood, and was my mothers slave girl. I didn't really want to grow up on many levels, and had a baby face so i fitted in..

@jguenther3049

18 күн бұрын

Yeah, I remember being carded at 31. Alas, those days are far behind me at 85! I've retained only the silliness of youth and a memory like one of those big grey animals.

@Janellabelle

18 күн бұрын

Omg, mother's slave girl here too. I waited until I was 29 to have a child even though I got married at 20. I just spent those 9 straight years partying constantly and working as a bottle girl and cocktail waitress.

I am a mom and I would had lost it if I find out that there is a grown adult in my kid's class. Those institutions that didn't pick up on this right away have a lot of explaining to do! Like how does anyone let this happen?!

@alukuhito

19 күн бұрын

Ironically, it's your type that is the problem. Teachers are mortified these days of offending any parent. They'd be sued for suggesting a student is actually an adult. Weird things happen. Sometimes people look old. They can't risk being called out for discriminating against a student.

@castorkat4868

19 күн бұрын

@@alukuhito nobody. checked her paperwork ? Background check ?

@alukuhito

19 күн бұрын

@@castorkat4868 She played the system. She was able to enroll due to a technicality, so she didn't have to provide that information. Again, if the school started to seek out information, assuming she was lying, they could get into trouble. She moved from school to school when people got too suspicious.

@delee8407

19 күн бұрын

Truth and tbh in elementary i went to school with a girl that did look 16-20 in 6th grade. She definitely looked like an adult when we toured the high school people mocked her when we walked by their classes. How extra mortifying if the school would have accused her of being an adult. Shed probably be so horrified. She just blossomed early 😭😭​@alukuhito

@irenes3470

17 күн бұрын

Give your kid some credit for bring able to see through BS and trust your own parenting

The fact that people do not take female sexual predators seriously is concerning. I use to teacher and as a male I was automatically assumed to be pedophile but people never thought a female would do such a thing.

And if a guy had done this, he would have been seen immediately as a predator, among other things.

If I was running a non-violent yet successful criminal enterprise, I'd hire her immediately. She could easily fill three openings.

@eadweard.

20 күн бұрын

Cannot tell what you are trying to say.

@pamcornelius9122

20 күн бұрын

She’s in the Peter Sellers acting league.

@disgustof-riley8338

16 күн бұрын

​@@eadweard. She fakes social worker identities

I really appreciate how Dr grande takes very serious topics and makes it thoroughly enjoyable to learn from. Absolutely love his sense of humor very intelligent witty and fun

She didn't hurt anyone. Why are we investigating this case?? I'll give her a A+ for effort. Lot of trouble she went to, to pull this off. You go girl.

@Starry_Night_Sky7455

15 күн бұрын

Her efforts were impressive. CIA or FBI needs her.

That cold piece at the end where he straight-faced said "hopefully that doesn't cause her to repeat", due to her aversion to learning history caught me off guard! He had been so professional & stolid 👼 then proceeded to bust out joke, had me rotf 😹 & I even snorted 🤦 from laughing so hard. Made watching this educational piece even more worthwhile! Thanks so much & I sincerely do enjoy learning about these kind of situations/mental disorders. Keep up the great content! 🖤😻♠😹💯🥇😻🖤

I have a step daughter, she is 40 now but could actually pass as a 25 year, she is a special agent for the ABC in Va. and will often bust tellers not asking for id,s 🤣 but usually investigates drunk related crimes when they occur at bars. As you can expect she has a hard time getting the respect a 40 year old would.

@stonedcyclist6392

20 күн бұрын

Idk I actually find it kind of fun to punk people, the look of shock on their faces when I tell them my age (also after talking for a while I get the "how old are you" question) feels like I pulled a funny prank on them without trying, or maybe I'm just a clown 🤡 lol

@alexhauser5043

17 күн бұрын

Yuck. Narcs are the most detestable of all government employees.

Couldn’t she pretend to be a 17-year-old student? 13 was pushing too far… and how did she buy the two-store house with cash??!

@commonsense2680

20 күн бұрын

They said she had an inheritance over over 1 million dollars from her grandfather and mother's deaths.

@markstevenson6635

20 күн бұрын

Condo within the building

@louisewright8769

19 күн бұрын

exactly right , why didnt she say she was 17 she would have got away with it , the money was a inheritance but from who i do not know .

@sarahjaye4117

19 күн бұрын

Yeah 17-18 senior at least !

And yet people want the government in charge of healthcare in this country. Then on top of that the post office near me can't even deliver mail properly about 60 percent of the time.

All that money at 30 years old.... and chooses to go to high school

When I was a high school teacher and coach, we had a foreign exchange student enroll in the other high school across town, and he signed up to play basketball. Eventually, they discovered he was 21 years old! 😂😂😂

@jslaughterofthesoul4939

20 күн бұрын

In my freshman year of high school we had a 21 year old senior

@michellehobbs3709

20 күн бұрын

@@jslaughterofthesoul4939I had a 15 year old 8th grader once. He finally got “aged out,” and moved over to the high school. The baseball coaches were sad about that! Lol!

@MusMasi

19 күн бұрын

@@michellehobbs3709 I remember when I was 12 in boarding school year 7 I was helping 19 year olds with their homework, I also had to deal with 19-20 year olds trying to bully and haze me and I offered to fight them, one of them I am sure was/is a predator. Some guys were just that slow they repeated numerous years, but they also stayed back to play rugby it was weird. Meeting some of those guys later on they said they respected me for standing up for myself most year 7s fold and end up being servants for the seniors. And I also go to play rugby against some who tried to bully me and dominate them physically when I was 19 at uni playing against other clubs and they were in their mid to late 20s.

@sarahjaye4117

19 күн бұрын

Lol wow 😮

@MixedChick1

15 күн бұрын

@@michellehobbs3709 14 and 15 year olds are suppose to be in 8 th grade

Maybe she took "adulting is a scam" literally, and I feel her 100%

@JL-ih3co

19 күн бұрын

😂

@alexhauser5043

17 күн бұрын

>> Reasonably attractive woman >> Adulting LOL

This reminds me: in 21 Jump street or Beverly Hills 90210 everyone in high school looked 30 AND WAS 30! We all just suspended disbelief

Thank you for covering this.❤

DCF must really be having a tough time finding employees lol sheesh

@Tmc513

20 күн бұрын

Can’t lie and say the thought of trying to collect a paycheck from the DCF didn’t cross my mine… Briefly. 😂

Thankfully there is Dr Grande to sort it all out

Im lost, why would someone pretend to be a teenager again and go to school, what benefits are there doing that,i dont get it

Thank you for your analysis, Dr.Grande!

Jennifer Garner should play her in the Netflix series.