28 versus 31.5 ... opinions?

@roetru

4 жыл бұрын

Bet you made alot of people cry when you started to spray paint your bow

@wesderrick8689

4 жыл бұрын

I like the spray job. Did my beestinger to match my ridge reaper forest triax. But then you used neon green serving???? C'mon man

@TheSleepyHunter

4 жыл бұрын

I just picked up the 31.5, I liked the way it felt and thought it would be more beneficial for those times I'm shooting longer distances.

@Farmersforever1993

4 жыл бұрын

I have the 28 and bc of my hunting style it’s suits me better. I also shoot and have a halon 32 for the last few years. I liked it but i was having trouble hunting in ground blinds and some trees. I also like to ground hunt and crawl into cedar trees to hide. My 32 was just alittle to long for those applications, so i shot both the 31.5 and 28 and the 28 is so much quieter and felt like alittle less vibration in the shot.

@jesselost05420

3 жыл бұрын

I like the 31.5 VXR it is money. I actually like it better then this years V3, but to each their own. I think the VXR feels better in my hand.

Josh your view on people working on their bows at home...what a breath of fresh air to hear someone articulate that so well! Does not down play the skill of the bow shop tech but also does not insult the archer tinkering and learning at home. "The better goal is to make the sport better and the people that are in it better." Good stuff guys!

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

thank you we thought he did a great job too.. TC

The beginning is the best thing I’ve seen on KZread.

Hells yeah! I’m gonna do just the riser in a tan! Loved the video man 🤟🏼

Really dig his outlook and philosophy on things as a shop owner

well you give !!!! it turned out very good I like !!!!!!

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

very cool thanks G

The king of KZread bow build Josh . I want to thank Elk Shake , Spokane archery for all the great videos. I have learned so much from Josh on how to build a bow. thanks again

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

thanks Richard!

The first minute was the most painful archery video I've seen haha

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

you survived

Hey whoa! This is funny, I took my rattle canned Bow in a few months back, and now, a vid. Lol. Good, I had a all black Hoyt CS, and had a bull last year come in at 36 yrs, I was set up really awesome, but that bow, and sights, and quiver... BAM!! Here I am! Saw a vid from that Euro Kuiu guy Pedro... Something, he painted his bow and looked super sick! So hense, mine is super cool now!! I like JJ's 'Hawk!! Lol

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

nice!

such a good guy.. we all should completly understand our gear

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

agreed

Goood stuff! 👍

I can’t believe you rattle canned that bow bro!! I suppose you’re just personalizing it for yourself!! To each their own!! Great info!!

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

#rattlecanbowbuild

When people are asking about “nock tuning” they’re talking about rotating the nock in the shaft until you have good arrow flight. Usually shoot through paper with a bare shaft and rotate until you get a bullet hole. You can also rotate it three different ways with your vanes (trying three different cock vanes) to see what shoots/flys best. You need to start with one arrow to set your bow up correctly and then do the rest. It can be very time consuming and not really a necessity for hunters with high quality arrows but it can help.

I've known nock tuning as rotating the nock when shooting not as a part of the build process. If you have an arrow flying off sometimes rotating the nock to the next fletching can potentially correct that. Awesome video man. Great info! Thanks!

@pennyontrack

4 жыл бұрын

Jake Peleshuck agreed

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

cool cool - thanks for watching

@nolanspivey8804

3 жыл бұрын

@@ElkShape translation: idgaf about nock tuning

I wish your shop was closer to NY. I'd come just for a proper tune. I can't tell you how it is to go to shops to get stuff done only to find out it's not the exact way. After watching your videos on broadhead tuning, rest setup, string loop assembly etc I know my bow isn't tuned properly and I wish it was. Keep it up guys. I know this is an old video but I've watched them all lol

This bow 😍

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

thanks G

Yes!... can't wait to see Josh's rig been waiting and is the string that you have on your bow the ones josh makes and if so how much ruffle are a set

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

yeah SVA makes them, give them a call

Sharp bow. I love the rattle can camo job. Looks sick man !!!!

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Craig

I crossed this channel 10 minutes ago. Great video. Very informative. Just for informational purpose, where is the bow shop that you are using in this video? Thanks

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

Spokane Valley Archery, Spokane Valley WA

Just have a few questions awesome video. What type of paint did you use? Did you sand the bow before painting? Does the paint stick well to the rubber dampeners? Would it be a good idea to go over with clear after? Does the paint affect the bearings? Will it come off easily?

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

Tim here but I am going to let Dan answer the paint question. You should definitely scuff up the bow before you paint.. I doubt it will stick well to dampeners.. Clear would be your call, the dull look is more natural.. Tape off the bearings and any internals... It certainly will not come off easy - hope that helps!

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

check video description for more info - DS

What kind of offset are you putting on your left helical fletches?

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

AZ EZ fletch

Nock tuning is turning the nock to the next shoot able alignment on an arrow in an attempted to pull in a problem arrow that is not grouping with others as well. This can take a pesky arrow and pull it into the group tighter. Basically your trying to adjust for the actual spine of the arrow if you don't do all the floating arrows and spine aligning.

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

120 degree rotation on the nock - correct? -DS

@skylerfinney2241

4 жыл бұрын

@@ElkShape it really depends on shooting 3 or 4 fletch. With 3 yes it would be 120. However if your shooting 4 fletch you get more tuning ability, so its every 90 degrees. One minor plus of shooting a 4 fletch beyond all the other pluses and minuses.

Very nice level clamp! Thanks for posting that. I didn't see it available on the website for sale. Can you confirm where to purchase. Thanks

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

call the homies @ SVA .. be a good call to action for them to get the website up and at em' - TC

@forgedwildernessinstinct6852

3 жыл бұрын

I am looking for that magnetic level jig too. I habeen looking all over the place and can't find it either. Guys I hope you see this. I would like to buy one, please and thank you.

How did the paint hold up?

where can I get a set of those strings? I like the natural color!

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

call the homies @ SVA .. they won't ship the strings because they build and install in house.. that way they cannot stretch and lead to tuning issues - TC

How well did the paint hold up?

My OMP vice doesn't have the tension to hold the bow when I try to lean the bow over to do loop or serving job. It falls just like his did. How do you tighten these things to get them to hold the weight of the bow? I have the directions and what those say, doesn't work. Thanks.

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

hmmm.. he just cranked it down and uses frequently

@maineonthefly

4 жыл бұрын

You can adjust the tension on your vise. Check out this video on how to do it. m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/o3agrbWTadmoj6g.html

@drested1793

4 жыл бұрын

@@maineonthefly Dude, I owe you big time!! I should've been smart enough to look up a video on it but wasn't. I still have the pamphlet that came with it and that info wasn't in it. Thanks again!

Dan - did the paint crack on the limbs? I wanna do a limb paint job and want to make sure I do it right. Any advice?

@ElkShape

5 ай бұрын

Nope - still have that bow and it's still sexy!

How long did the paint last on the limbs , did chip away after shooting?

@ElkShape

3 жыл бұрын

Still going strong

Looking for a left helical fletcher. Any ideas?

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

I bought AZ EZE Fletch with helical Left arms from Spokane Valley Archery, thanks for watching! -DS

It's a bit disappointing to hear that you got some push back from some folks about do it yourself bow building. The answer given to this was absolutely awesome though. GREAT SPORTSMANSHIP 👊

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

it's all good - loved Josh's answer - TC

Check out Zinger Fletch. Made in MI on a 3D printer custom made to the arrow diameter. They come in V3 (3 vane) and V4 (4 vane). Each version came be made in, 1 degree, 3 and 6 degree...Both right and left helical. These are impressive and light which increases FOC.

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

Cool - elk shape vanes made by AAE are live on the website now

Love the camo! What colour spray paint is that? Flat Dark Earth ?

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

check description

Your paint looks great-- nice work. Did you get a few extra pounds with the new cable?

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

Yes I did! -DS

so its been about a year and a half, how well is the rattle can holding up?

@drested1793

Жыл бұрын

I wondered that as well but I’m sure that bow was only around for a season and he moved on to the new model.

Watching this video so much info in it! Thanks. Question is parachuting you two talked about, I have watched other video not going to name the person but it is complete opposite of what is being said. So iam a little confused. Now this person is highly one of the best archery shooters in in then world and say only a 2.5 to 3 degree on vanes if shooting over 50 yards. Why such a difference from what the two of you are talking about with more the better?

Does paint effect string life?

I think stiffness of your low profile vane vs high profile is something that is needed to be discussed. Low pros are much quieter

Loving the free chat!

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

same

My bow always tunes best with the bottom of the arrows go through the middle of the burger hole

I wish I had a bow shop near me. The closest shop to me is 150+ miles.

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

tough deal - best option might be to ship your bow to a qualified shop, there's a lot of value in learning to work on your own if possible

@metro9636

4 жыл бұрын

get a bowpress than you wont need a bowshop.

@JimmyF638

4 жыл бұрын

Ive turned my garage into my own personal bow shop.

Dude threw that d loop on easier and quicker than any other video I've seen

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

He's tied more d loops that we have subs lol - TC

its 79lbs?

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

Do they sell on eBay?

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

SVA does have an ebay store

@doublelung5746

4 жыл бұрын

@@ElkShape im pretty sure that's who I buy my vaps from they are cheap

Has Josh been listening to a lot of RAMMSTEIN during the China virus? Love the hair do!

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

he's went full gangster 🤘

I like how my comment was called out because everyone always has to be correct. My 4 fletch compared to a 3 fletch high profile is almost no difference in weight with an average hp vane. My vane is 5.5 grains compared to the aae vane which was like what? 9.2 grains. My total weight is 22 grains for 4 vanes compared to 3 aae max vanes that weigh 27.6. Invalid argument. Also the more you spin the arrow obviously the more it will slow down at distance which is the original point I tried to make. To each their own. I guess results can differ

@dillonwalling

4 жыл бұрын

Shane Berkness I disagree also on him saying a hard helical will show no differences at longer ranges, Levi has said it himself that too hard of a helical will be less accurate at longer ranges

@shaneberkness2743

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, also Tim Gillingham and John Dudley. I would take three accomplished professionals word over a random guy that I have not heard of until he appeared on the elk shape KZread channel

@shaneberkness2743

4 жыл бұрын

Not saying he doesn't know what he's doing. I just don't agree with him on this subject

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

@@shaneberkness2743 and squad - the point he made which I like is to test it all yourself and find what works best - ABT (always be tinkering) -DS

What I would pay to have a shop like that in Omaha...

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

We're lucky to have a knowledge local shop!

how has he never heard of nock tuning?

Time to rattle can the old stone vertix

And for the record I am talking about using Archers Advantage to verify spine, arrow length and the affects of what length the arrows are and how it changes the spine. You can get a good idea of what wraps,4 fletch and so on will affect FOC, speed spine and have a solid idea of what arrow will work. Especially if your on the fence between 250 spine verses 300 spine. How will 200 grains up front change the arrow verses 300 up front. Its not necessarily for the tapes was my point for the record. Drawing the bow back and saying cut it here is not the best way. Just my opinion. Speed affects the spine as well. 300 spine can be ideal at 280 fps but not at 305 fps.

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

record clear

Your shop tech doesn’t know what nock tuning is?

Why ?

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

why not

Why devalue your bow like that

seems like a waste of string, you have a bowpress, why didnt you just take it apart? that would've made a better video for those who dont know how to take down a bow.

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

seems like I never use factory strings so that's why - thanks for watching. -DS

hope it dont rain ! lol

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

it won't melt

@ramblingrich3544

4 жыл бұрын

@@ElkShape lol yeah thought it was super funny when you said ...how about feathers ..Josh goes hope it dont rain ...i dont know i found it funny as shit

Dude did not just rattlecana 1k bow. Should be a crime

@ElkShape

4 жыл бұрын

dude did 😳

@mattlewis9725

4 жыл бұрын

Put a lump in my throat too I must say...lol

@JustForFun-UBU

4 жыл бұрын

Why not just buy a camo bow?? It took a while for me to save the $1100 trinkets for my vxr 31.5!! It’s my baby!! I shoot it every day and I am happy with the color.... the thought of a rattle can on my baby?

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