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@steffeness1

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe you could advise me Doc Tac ? I have 3 recently bought ARs. The Sig Patrol, LWRCI-A5 & a Zev AR-15 Billet. Should have just bought 1 as a 6.5 Grendel, but didn't. The Zev is a mid length gas system & requires no more than an 18" barrel. 20" barrel requires full length gas system. Is it easy enough to replace the bolt, barrel to alter the Zev into a 6.5 G ?

@Rick_Sanchez_C137_

2 жыл бұрын

U.S. military snipers target enemies past 800M. U.S. Army Soldiers train out to 300M U.S. Marines train out to 500M So the comment about using the Grendel as an in between round for SDM (Army SDM train for up to 800M) isn’t really solid because the standard weight Grendel round at 800M is dropping 19 feet at 800M while the SS109 (the standard battlefield M4 round) is dropping less than fifteen feet. As trusting it for a sniper round, no way. Snipers are trained to shoot to distances that make it so that .300WM is on the table as a .308 replacement (and that argument has been a constant for a very long time; during our 2009 Afghanistan deployment there were .300WM rifles in the system [thank you SOCOM] that the unit was considering getting them for our snipers but we couldn’t get them delivered in time to get the snipers dialed in and practiced on them before leaving the mobilization site so our unit stuck with the .308s. The snipers wanted them, and so did the command team because we knew the engagement distances of the areas we were going in to, but a schedule is a schedule and logistics can’t order more prep time). Also, when I went through SDM, we were using ACOGs, and to date, Trijicon still hasn’t released an ACOG with a 6.5G BDC…. obviously, Trijicon could manufacture one with a couple months warning, but I don’t see Uncle going with a round with more drop than 5.56 or .308 NATO rounds…. What SOCOM does is up to them, but the bureaucracy that makes decisions for everyone outside of SOCOM is not gonna change up to a round with more drop… wrong or right, good or bad, the bureaucracy will make the decision and more knock down power hasn’t been a consideration for battle rifles or handguns since Vietnam…. 6.5G would make a great battle rifle round (0-300/500M), but drop makes it an issue past those distances considering all the other rounds available with better numbers. Good vid, solid talking points.

July 2020, the ammo shelves are practically empty. Sullen faces staring at nothing, wishing for a box or two. My happy ass rolls up, grabs a couple boxes of 6.5G and 10mm for the g20. Those same sad eyes turn to jealousy and hate. I smile as I walk away.

@jjw5165

3 жыл бұрын

Had 400 rd boxes at a sporting goods store. Nuthing in 5.56

@duster0066

3 жыл бұрын

Is the zombie theory going bad? Looks like the weirder the cartridge the easier it is to find. Consider how fast you can go through ammo. If the supply stops the popular stuff is gone in days. A running lever gun will look real good when the ARs stop.

@jjw5165

3 жыл бұрын

Thinking of ordering a .40 body for sig320 so can get ammo?

@briansims4365

3 жыл бұрын

@@jjw5165 got 40 calls everywhere I look

@RockinRack

3 жыл бұрын

This didn't age well

15yrs ago I asked my neighbor who happen to be on of the best long range target shooters Ive seen what was the best all round cartridge I could fit into a AR15 platform that wouldn't cost so much per bullet. He told me the 6.5 Grendel. Since then I've done a couple of Grendel builds in AR15 platform and loved the performance. I just built my best one yet. A Grendel in the AR15 pistol with a 12.5 barrel. That's the shortest barrel that you could go and still keep all the great Grendel characteristics.

@crashdsnowman1

Жыл бұрын

I think the 6mmARC beats the Grendel by Quite a bit when shooting long range. For hunting here in Texas most of the guys we know use the 6.8.

I was fascinated by this round 10 or so years ago, I qualified at PI on the M14, serving in both the USMC and the US Army, I was never pleased with the AR platform. So thus saying my Grendel builds were a little unique I had a company in SC set me up a Ruger Mini-30 in 6.5 Grendal, and after talking with the Dr. Out of Texas who championed the 6mmPPC, Patriot Arms in Georgia built me a bolt gun based on CZ-Carbine, they wanted me to go with a 20” barrel for aesthetic I guess but my reading on the 6.5x55 Swede was the 6.5 in an 8 twist liked a long barrel, so I was insistent on a 24” barrel, all agreed it turned out to be the right choice, as the CZ magazine extends down carrying the rifle with your hand in front of the mag, it was very balanced, not to mention it was wicked accurate. When I retired my Son in Iowa inherited both, hope he’s enjoying them, his personal builds were AR platformed.

Shot my deer with it this year. Used the hornady 123 sst. Deer ran 10 feet and dropped. I love this versatile round!

Hey TacDad! :) We started to use the 6.5 bullet as the standard military bullet 1891 here in Sweden and still to day the 6.5 x 55 is the most popular long range cartridge. Guess the Grendel use the same 6.5 bullet. Best regards from Sweden

@DocTacDad

9 жыл бұрын

Jonas Svensson Indeed...The Swedes (My Grandfather was from Sweden...) were ahead of the game on this one. Thanks for watching!

@red9man2130

9 жыл бұрын

Jonas Svensson hi from a fellow shooter in the USA. ok, it has been found by ballisticians that a 6.5-6.8 projectile diameter is the "Sweetspot" in physics for a Rifle projectile the 6.5 is best (assuming proper collary mass). I know the Swedish service Rifle used to be the AK-4 (G3 variant) in .308/7.62x51 NATO. I think the 6.5x55 Swedish mauser is the Best overall Boltgun Round extant with perhaps the 6mm PPC besting it slightly for accuracy at closer ranges. What we should do is Bring back the Stoner 63 chambered for this round (robinson m96).

@stevebrown4346

8 жыл бұрын

+Jonas Svensson I still dream that there was a 6.5 x 55 AR 10, but that's a no go.

@EndingTimes0

8 жыл бұрын

+Steve Brown use the 260rem, its the closest thing you can go with in an ar10.

@EndingTimes0

8 жыл бұрын

SuperGoldnut I feel like the creedmoore would be a better choice overall, but the 260 rem is more similar to the 6.5x55.

I love 6.5 grendel. Makes for an awesome lightweight long range AR15 DMR with an 18-24 in barrel

@RONZiLLA702

2 жыл бұрын

20 inch build...check

CMMG solve the problem with the 6.5 Grendel by using their powerbolt. It is a medium size AR - 10 bolt face with extra "meat" on the lugs to give you extra clamping power. Thank you Bill Alexander for the 6.5x39 Grendel.

Makes me want to build a 6.5 upper even more, thanks for the info.

Yep. This little round is amazing. I just shot it 1305 yards. Hits hard and cycles great too.

@tsclly2377

8 жыл бұрын

+11DayScrape // had to change the blt extractor spring and buffer.. went to the double twisted spring with a o-ring on the outside in addition of the synth buffer. I say that this buffer / spring is the pitfall to all AR platfoms. CaRRY AN EXTRA BOLT.

@jedediahhoffman7925

5 жыл бұрын

@@thomasfoster2 lol

@bryanduchane2371

4 жыл бұрын

What magazines are you using? Just bought a upper and am new to the caliber.

@Stephen-br6il

4 жыл бұрын

Hits hard? Not at those ranges. Its close to a 9mm in energy at 1300yarde

@petermartin7371

3 жыл бұрын

@@Stephen-br6il bet you won't stand in front of the 9mm powdered roynd6

Love the Grendel!!! As I have gotten older I have fell off the Magnum craze as I appreciate the more efficient cartridges, especially when they give up very little performance wise. I havent broken a bolt yet on a AR with commercial or my moderate power hand loads. I do keep a spare!!!

I've been on a 6.5 Grendel research kick, & subsequently watched so may videos, and this is the first one under actually talks about the disadvantages, namely the Weaker Bolt Thank you

Thank you this was a very informative review... I have a 6.5 myself and I’m very new to the round.. please keep up the great work...

Thanks again for going through this whole project. 6.5 Grendel is on my list of builds, and your experience is both helpful and instructive.

I love your videos. Keep them coming

Great video on my personal favorite MSR cartridge. Thanks for posting 🙏

Great explanation! My only 6.5 experience has been reloading the 6.5 x 55. I appreciated what you said about the heavier bullets as well.

Have two of these in a AR-15 platform. Love both of them. They are tack drivers. No problems with my reloads so far

Thanks for such a thorough explanation. I'm new to the Grendel. I'll research bolt reliability.

Hornady 123 Amax bullet increased my penetration. Love the Amax and flies identical to the 123 SST. Love my Grendel!

Excellent information. Thanks for sharing.

Another interesting cartridge that is a derivative of the 6.5 grendal is the 6mmar designed by Robert Whitley. It is a grendal case necked down to 6mm (.243) bullets. Essentially a 6mm br for the AR-15 platform.

@crashdsnowman1

Жыл бұрын

Hornady copied that with the 6mm ARC

Very cool round for hunting. I ended up with 6.8 SPC, like the 6" barrel, and I dont need to shoot more than 120 yrs, lots of woods, but if I needed longer shots, I would definately do the 6.5 with a 20" barrel.

Start using the Hornady ELD bullets, their polymer tip resists thermal deformation much better than the old formula. The A-tips are fantastic too, but pricey. And remember folks, the 6.5 Grendel starts slow but ends fast!

Many post that I see are years old. I just got into the Grendel 6 months ago and it's 2021. I'm convinced it's a great round and serves it's purpose. I'm a big 300 Blk shooter, but beyond 150 yards, give me the Grendel. I'm not inclined to shoot at an animal beyond 150, but paper as far as old eyes can see. The downside to Grendel for me is, not many people are shooting it. In the mist of the ammo and component shortage, there's no range brass. I thrive on reloading what others throw away. (LOL) I just picked up over 160 empty, once fired 300 Blk cases in the last 3 weeks. Loaded and ready to go, but no Grendel out there. Out of stock online for even Starline Brass.

Just bought a diamondback DB-15 (AR-15) in this caliber, absolutely LOVE it! Only took me about 5 rounds to sight it in.

@shanewinfrey1723

4 жыл бұрын

How has it held up?

My Grendel is a recent vintage Alexander Arms, so I don't waste a lot of time worrying about the bolt. When it comes to the AR-15, any experienced Grendeler will tell you that the real limitation is the hoop strength of the chamber; the greater diameter of the case, the thinner the chamber wall of the rifle. The Grendel cartridge could easily operate at 54,000 PSI with a properly supported chamber, but is constrained to a maximum of 50,000 PSI by the yield limit of the AR-15.

Very nice well made and informative video!

Thanks for the great info! It sounds like the 140 gr could be very good for brush country whitetails and perhaps even mule deer in hilly terrain. It would also be great for home defense (AR) if the bolt issue is resolved.

I love the aspects of this round and NOW the cost is almost as low as the 556... I am currently in the middle of building a 18" platform as I type this,... Cheers

@jsocdelta82

5 жыл бұрын

Most of the .223/5.56 "generics" are actually now MORE expensive than the mid grade, medium grain "hog hatchet" 6.5 Grendel makers I been seeing.

@anthonymilano9233

5 жыл бұрын

@@jsocdelta82 what? Where? Mid range .223 is still like half the price of cheap 6.5. Im happy to be wring if you can point me in a direction. I can get .223 as cheap as 25 cents a round. I cant find factory 6.5 anywhere close to double that

@jorgecampos7002

5 жыл бұрын

@Anthony Milano wolf classic 100gr 24¢/pr

Good video. Love my 6.5 Grendel. It is my go to for coyote hunting and some long range plinking. I put together a video of my build on my channel and it’s one of my favorite rifles. 👍

6.5 Creedmore for bolt-action, Grendel for AR.

I like this cartridge. I can only hunt varmints with a .223 in my state so it essentially becomes a plinker round. And we all know 22lr is the best plinker round. Plus now at $5 a 20 round box for wolf steel you can shoot all day long, and still get a great cartridge for hunting at $1 a round.

Excellent review of the 6.5 Grendel ammunition comparison, I would like to see this review updated with Federals new 224 Valkyrie 90 gr. SMK, .563 BC, supersonic out to 1,300 yards at about $1.10 ppr. The Federal standard plinking 75 gr. practice ammo is around $.55 ppr.

i just put together a 450 bushmaster, now i need one of these.

Great information; thank you! I’m a believer! BCA has really good deals on complete uppers.

Run an AR platform in 6.5 grendel with around 500 rounds through it so far. No bolt problems yet, even dumping 58 rounds in a row (from various sized e lander mags). Only issues I’ve experienced were due to the extractor that came with the Odin Works BCG I run. I’ve since swapped that out with an Alexander arms extractor and keep a couple of spares around as well as a spare toolcraft 6.5 grendel bolt. I run a mid length gas system 16” barrel with a standard carbine buffer/ spring and have used factory Hornady black, sst, and American gunner, federal fusion and berger, and American Eagle. I have some Alexander arms loaded with 120g Barnes tsx hpbt I plan to hunt with soon, but I haven’t tested in my rifle yet. So far it loves the Hornady loads and is a little finicky with the federals.

Ammo has been available where I live. Hornady, PPU and Wolf. PPU is about $13, and Wolf is about $10

I add new 20 inches 6.5 Grendel barrel to my 1950's Czech semi auto VZ52 rifle. So i got 300 $ , 6.5 Grendel rifle :) Test fire it at indoor range ,all works fine.Cant wait to get to outdoor range.

Just got a side charged forged upper reciver and bolt group with 20 inch heavy barrel full length gas system with gas block.. im just waiting for the mags to come in the mail.. I cant wait to put it to the test!

Great stuff. Thanks for the info. Why no 300 Blackout in the visual line-up comparison? I know X39 is close, but all the others shown are AR rounds (AR10 included of course).

Well done!

I love shooting both my 6.5 Grendel AR & my Savage 110 Tactical 6.5 Creedmoor

Check out a 25x45 Sharps.... basically a 223 necked up to .257".... it only requires a barrel change and it is very similar to a 30-30, 150g-170g.... Great for hunting in the 300 yard category and cheep to shoot.

I love the 6.5 Grendel, it's the best of the bunch in my opinion. It can do everything the 6.8 SPC can do PLUS soooo much more, what's to even consider? As far as bolt breakage issues, it seems like that was more of an issue when the Grendel was first gaining popularity due to folks not using proper bolts. I haven't heard of any bolt issues in the last four years or more. It's a very rare occurrence at best. It may just be the best or at least among the best, deer hunting calibers ever created. When used in a lightweight AR platform you get the aforementioned light weight, near limitless customization, affordable ammo, very good capacity, excellent ballistics for hunting AND able to run double duty as a long range target gun.

@bobbylivezey3109

8 жыл бұрын

it depends on your build. one of my builds is a acr sbr so I went with the 6.8. when I do a 6.5 Grendel ar-15 build it will have a 18 or 20 inch barrel.

@crashdsnowman1

Жыл бұрын

Well it's 2023 and they are still breaking bolts, they show up on the forums every few months.

Great video

I had a an extractor break in half after about 50 rounds through the gun. Bought an aftermarket extractor for about $30 which is very steep but haven't had and problems yet with about 150 rounds with the new extractor.

Picking up my DB 6.5 grendel today.

I have never broken a bolt on my 6.5, however, I have broken multiple extractor's on multiple 6.5 guns while shooting steel cased ammo.

I suggest staying away from the wolf ammo. I tried it and had issues with the bolt ejecting it. I switched to the hornity 123 sst ballistic tip and to a ppu 120 hollow point this past deer season. No issues with the bolt ejecting the hornity or ppu ammo.

Make sure in 2022 you are getting Grendel Type 2 replacement Bolts, if you have the Type 2 chamber.

I like it. long range

A quick FYI, I just received 1000 rounds of the Wolf 100gr steel case loads @ 37 cents a round shipped...SGAmmo.

I just picked up My 6.5 Grendel from harden arms Haven't shot it yet will let you know Thanks for the information On ammo

Great Summary and review. Any suggestions regarding rifle platforms, eg, CMMG?

I have had a Grendel since 2010 built on a Alexzander Arms 18 inch barrel with matching bolt have had no problems even shot 140 g hand loads one hole accurate at 50 yards with 123g A max bullets

@chickenstrangler3826

7 жыл бұрын

now you fcked up 7 years ago! Should have gotten a 20" or 22" barrel.

I wore out a saber defense barrel and the bolt is still in use no issues at all.

is a 16" barrel long enough to burn all the powder from the 6.5 grendel?

I got the toolcraft bcg with diamond like coating. It's worked fantastic so far after about 2k rounds. I use it to hunt boar and it tears em up like nothing else

Good info, thanks!

@DocTacDad

9 жыл бұрын

454pakr Thanks for watching!

I just completed my 6.5 Grendel build. I went with a 24" match grade stainless steel barrel, not a bull barrel. My 6.5 G for hunting and target shooting. The finish weight is 7.1 pounds with no sights. My last build, and this is my third AR build. I wanted something other than a 5.56 AR.

@JohnCena-mu3lv

6 жыл бұрын

Rudolph Ferdinand have you had any bolt issues like those mentioned in the vid? Did u have to buy a special bolt for the Grendel?

@roseco581

5 жыл бұрын

24 inch barrel, yikes, not the end of the world I guess, but my 6,8 has a 16" barrel. I dont shoot past 120 yrds though

I have 3 Grendels. 1 20 inch heavy barrel with magpul precision stock and 16X Vortex, 1 16 in light barrel, and 1 Howa bolt action. No AR bolt problems.

@Aleckael

7 жыл бұрын

Do you reload? What kind of pressure loads are you loading up to?

@TexanUSMC8089

7 жыл бұрын

I load 123 sierra matchking, 123 hornady sst, and hornady 123 amax....normally.. 27 gr IMR4895. I tried a lot of different powders and loads, but this one has really worked great for me. Very consistent. I don't remember what the pressure is, but it's not close to max. I never load hot for any of my rifles. at 500 yards my 7mm-08 load is about a foot lower than factory loads, but I can shoot .5 moa at 100.

@Aleckael

7 жыл бұрын

TexanUSMC8089 Do you load the 7mm-08 with the IMR4895 too? My favorite game load for my 7mm08 is the Varget powder, with Hornady 139gr GMX rounds and regular winchester large rifle primers, it never fails to do 0.6 moa on the first 3 shots. You definitely get what you pay for with those weatherby vanguard rifles.

@TexanUSMC8089

7 жыл бұрын

For my 7mm-08 I use 43.5 gr of RE17. Hornady 139 gr SST. I really wanted it to shoot the 162 amax, but it just didn't like them. Yea, weatherby vanguard rifles are outstanding. They're actually made for weatherby in japan by Howa. Crazy but true. They're very well machined to very tight tolerances. I have a Howa mini action in 6.5 Grendel. Very smooth and accurate. My 7mm-08 was a project rifle. Started out as a $300 savage axis 2. I put it in a boyds stock and bedded and floated it. Nikon P308 scope. It's kind of irritating, but it outshoots several rifles that cost three times as much. lol

@colsoncustoms8994

7 жыл бұрын

how is it with the 20" barrel? I will probably go with either that or an 18"

great video

I'd say make sure you lap your upper receiver to make sure your barrel is aligned as perfect as possible to keep even pressure on your bolt.

ive got a brownells 24 barrel and extractor with around 500 rounds of the ppu 120 through it. Ive heard people online say the extracors split but have never seen it personally. I check mine every few mags though.....

Interesting! I've never put much thought into this caliber. The bolt part is really a non issue. I keep spare bolts for all my AR's in house anyway. At least 1 in the grip and 1-2 at home depending on the volume of shooting that rifle sees. My 7.62x39 actually has 5 lol. I'll have to do some more research on this one, but I do have more receiver sets than a normal human should. Perks of working in a gun store I guess.

At 100-300 yds my 16" Grendel puts one hole on paper and the rest follows. It's my all-time favorite AR and I have plenty. I went AA full-auto bolt and still haven't had any issues or breaks. After building this to MY likes at $1,700 I'd be irritated on replacing bolts.

When I first saw the Grendel on future weapons I had to have it. Although, I had not owned one firearm at that time, I did not know that it wasn't available to the civilian market due to the Clinton assault weapon ban. So when I found out I could not have it, I never even thought about purchasing it. Now as of 2012, I purchased my first firearm and over time I found out how much more expensive and especially how much harder it was to get specialty, and I guess you can say exotic since that round had not really been adopted by our military. So I stuck to purchasing and building rifles that had rounds that were very easy to come by. Now a couple of AR's later, I'm looking into purchasing a new and I guess you can say a different fighting rifle load. Still, the Grendel still comes up since it was the very first fighting rifle load I looked into getting. Even the search I just made brought up this vid, which was 6.5 vs 6.8. So maybe in due time, thanks!

@Rickie53

8 жыл бұрын

+jack suquett You could try out reloading, it can really cut the cost on ammo, especially ammo that is somewhat obscure. Attention to detail while doing it is very important tho, but as long as you don't do anything crazy, it's not that hard. Look up some videos on it, and I would suggest pricing Lee stuff, and using a lee single stage press for your first press, they have one thats under $30 I believe, on cheaperthandirt dot com, and Amazon.

I have a 24 inch barrel custom built Grendel. I've killed 1 coyote 2 bobcats 2 pigs and 3 deer with it. Have dropped every animal except one doe with it. It's accurate and packs enough punch to drop a deer at 200 yards. With the 123 gr hornity it went clean threw a 200lbs bore @ 150 yards. Don't know that I would attempt an elk hunt with it, but I do plan on taking it to Wyoming for a pronghorn antelope hunt this coming fall.

My 6.5 grendel AR groups wolf steel at half inches at 100 yards. I’ve ran a couple thousand rounds through it of that same steel ammo and have no bolt issues at all. I have a palmetto state bolt and an Alexander arms 18 inch barrel on a BCM upper. It’s my favorite rifle. And I have a BUNCH of rifles. This cartridge is nasty and I’m glad I chose it over 6mm ARC. I’ll eventually have an AR in every possible cartridge though. Thanks for the info. I’ve yet to find any of the 140gr options for this projectile.

I have several hundred rounds through mine shooting factory hornady black and wolf steel. I have broken a extractor early on with the wolf ammo but have shot over a hundred rounds of the stuff since with no problems so may have just been a bad extractor or a damaged shell casing.

I think a lot of the mass or penetration concerns people have with any of the 6.5 bullets (and also 6.8) are all solved by the non lead rounds, especially the barnes TTSX rounds.

what do you think of converting a Ruger MINI-30 , 18" barrel . to 6.5 Grendel ?

I just built an AR in 6.5 Grendel. 24 inch barrel. I shot it in and ran a hundred rounds through it. No problems yet.

@steffeness1

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe you could advise me ? I have 3 recently bought ARs. The Sig Patrol, LWRCI-A5 & a Zev AR-15 Billet. Should have just bought 1 as a 6.5 Grendel, but didn't. The Zev is a mid length gas system & requires no more than an 18" barrel. 20" barrel requires full length gas system. Is it easy enough to replace the bolt, barrel to alter the Zev into a 6.5 G ?

Great video. I like the Grendel for its efficiency as it has a nearly unmatched power to powder ratio, but in a modern bolt gun with modern ammo the hundred plus year old 250 Savage still smokes it. Like the 300 Savage had near 30-06 power, a 264 Savage would have been ideal. I'd call that wildcat, the 6.5 Savage Bastard!

Great article, have 3 Grendals an they are my favorite, will shoot less than 1 inch groups at 100 yards, the 16 inch compared to the 20 inch gives up about 50 to 60 FPS, hand load all my ammo, just FYI you know about using 7.62 x 39 brass an fire forming it to make 6.5 Grendal brass, I get 50 pieces of Winchester brass for less than $25.00 and have had very few hic-ups, great stuff. Keep up the good work.Thanks;ARB/Recon

@DirtyAzathoth

5 жыл бұрын

Ron Fielder what kind of velocity are you getting out of a 16 inch barrel?

@steffeness1

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe you could advise me? I have 3 recently bought ARs. The Sig Patrol, LWRCI-A5 & a Zev AR-15 Billet. Should have just bought 1 as a 6.5 Grendel, but didn't. The Zev is a mid length gas system & requires no more than an 18" barrel. 20" barrel requires full length gas system. Is it easy enough to replace the bolt, barrel to alter the Zev into a 6.5 G ?

It may just be my Grendel, but I had problems with the PPU. I had primers blowing out and jamming in and ending up in my buffer. They use a large rifle primer and are not that great for reloading. I had problems with brass not wanting to eject. I now only use Hornady brass and reload beyond 10 times with no problems.

Have been interested in this cartridge for some time. Great to hear commentary from someone who is interested, but not trying to preach. My fascination with 6.5x55SE may see me add this to the line up as well. Thanks for the vid!

@DocTacDad

9 жыл бұрын

CrotalusKid I think you'd like it....

@gonzalez519

7 жыл бұрын

DocTacDad got a question? Theoretically you could fit a 6.5 Grendel projectile in a 5.56 case correct? And if you could, would the ballistics be any similar?

@CrotalusKid

5 жыл бұрын

Welp, finally brought one home! ADORE its performance!

Watching this to decide if I should get this 6.5 Grendel from work... it’s at a lowered price and I can’t make up my mind if I NEED it or not

I just wish someone would hurry up and make better 6.5 Gre AR magazines.

It's been over 3 years since you posted this video. Has your opinion of the Grendel changed? Have the bolt breakage issues been resolved? I was reading forums where people were recommending the Grendel, but they never mentioned a special bolt.

CMMG makes the MK47 Mutant, which relies on a chunkier and more robust 308 platform and bolt/BCG to run 7.62x39 reliably. In AR-15's chambered in 7.62x39, the bolt is also usually a weak point. I could see CMMG coming out with a 6.5 Grendel variant based on the modified 308 BCG used i ntheir 7.62x39 MK47.

@Shooter7point62

7 жыл бұрын

jpap967 case head size of 7.62x39 is the same as the grendel, ppc, 220 russian etc

@jpap967

7 жыл бұрын

Shooter7point62 right, which is why I brought CMMG up. They make their 7.62x39 bolt for the Mutant by using a 308 patterned bolt and bcg to make it more robust. They could do the same for 6.5 Grendel

Just finish building a 6.5 Grendel with 20" barrel.

What is the difference in the range between the 5.56 vs 6.5 Grendel? Is it same reach but just more power? Or is there a significant distance advantage?

Been shooting the Grendel for about 4 years now, before SAAMI. The 140's will not work in any of my rifles, I have 4 right now all different barrel manufacturers. You should keep it to less than 125gr, I use 120 and 123. Mark Krebs is supposidly working on an ak in 6.5 Grendel and Mossberg is making a Bolt action in 6.5 Grendel. The PPU is made by Wolf, the PPU and Wolf are Large Primers for you reloaders. I have ran my Grendel so hard it had a primer blow out, No bolt breakage. There is a bunch of people who are using the 6.8 LWRC bigger platform with Grendel with very long bullets

other than costs, how will the grendel perform in a shorter barrel rifle? 16 or 18 barrel? I get its more of a long range shooter. will it still be a lot better than a 77gr 556?

2 1/2 years later, how do you feel about the popularity growth of the grendel Now? I just got my first grendel upper thursday

Any thoughts on the 6.5 ppc?

Love the Grendel (own a Beowulf upper also). Be curious to see one suppressed running subsonic 160's, and how that would compare to the 300BLK.

You need to take a look at the POF Revolution, A .308 upper that will fit on a AR-15 lower. If the bolt on this will handle the .308, it will easily handle the Grendel

Nice video set my AR 15 for for 6.5 Grendel about ammo these days you grab what's you can on the shelf and be happy you got something It be a little easer to get 5.56 /223 stuff but that's my second AR for 223 wylde barrel so that way that way you could shoot a 22 caliber I hear somthing about making all AR in calif. 22 caliber only not sure?

did you chrony those loads..... did you use a g7 bc to get a real world trajectory estimation?

How do you guys feel about the "new" .224 compared to 6.5?

I want the 6mm arc but the grendals been around longer i got the 5.56/223 and the 7.62x51/.308 but 1st ima get the 7mm rem mag

Good discussion. I suspect a far amount of early 6.5 Grendel bolts were milled out 5.56 bolts as opposed to dedicated manufacture.

Excellent information and opinion here. I knew nothing about the AR platform bolt issue (of course, I just picked up a complete 18" upper today, having read about this cartridge and all of its good points) so this video has been extremely informative for me. I really liked the opening statements pertaining to downrange ballistics. What barrel length are those figures from? I know 24" is considered optimal for this cartridge, and I'll be running an 18," so how much can I expect my velocity/energy to suffer? Thamks again for a very concise and informative video.

@crashdsnowman1

Жыл бұрын

you will lose 25fps/inch

Any thoughts on which companies produce some of the more higher quality (less breakable) bolts?

@barrywilliams1694

4 жыл бұрын

AA Arms

Hello, thanks for an excellent channel, may I ask how many rounds of steel cased grendel before your extractor broke please? If it did not, Great! If so where do you acquire your BCG please? Seems to be a common problem with quite a few threads, I am included in that problem , a BCG allegedly in my JSE Surplus upper from Alexander arms, maybe 200 rounds of steel later, extractor ripped off. Any suggestions would be appreciated

@stevecampbell3175

4 жыл бұрын

Huckleberry arms has a toolcraft bcg great price that's what I use lifetime warranty hasn't broken or nothing just keeps working it's a good if not great bcg

Yeah there's not a whole lot out there but hey there training ammunition, that's less than 5.56 @ .25/round. HPs as low as .60/round and bad guy ammo@ .90/round. Awesome 😊

I like the round because the name is cool.