Picking the right AR cartridge for your needs

This is a comparison of .223 Remington, 22 Nosler, 224 Valkyrie, and 6.5 Grendel. Which one is the perfect cartridge for you AR-15? It depends on your needs.
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  • @jeremythagreat
    @jeremythagreat3 жыл бұрын

    "Guys in funny jackets, shooting groups to win matches." Words of wisdom

  • @xenomorphelv4265
    @xenomorphelv42654 жыл бұрын

    after checking my needs (which mostly consist of hunting rabbits), I have no choice but to go with .50 BMG.

  • @bmstylee

    @bmstylee

    3 жыл бұрын

    Might have a issue with hitting the vitals.

  • @dr.froghopper6711

    @dr.froghopper6711

    3 жыл бұрын

    Leave your skinning knife at home!

  • @keithlucas6260

    @keithlucas6260

    3 жыл бұрын

    you mean "wabbits."

  • @timeverett7828

    @timeverett7828

    3 жыл бұрын

    LMAO 🤣 🤣 🤣

  • @profthomason

    @profthomason

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bmstylee u funny

  • @smc1942
    @smc1942 Жыл бұрын

    A few years ago, a friend let me bust a few rounds from his AR in 6.5 Grendel (6.7 actual!). It was love at first ring of the steel for me! 5 for 5 at 500 yards! The more research I did into this cartridge, the more I had to have one. I chose a 20" HBAR, as Grendel likes a longer barrel. NO REGRETS!!! With Grendel, I feel the AR has finally grown up. A true Rifle with the capability to reach out several hundred yards. And with less than half the recoil of a .308! Grendel is now my GO TO platform.

  • @Shootsmith
    @Shootsmith5 жыл бұрын

    6.5 Grendel!

  • @Darkhalfcustoms
    @Darkhalfcustoms5 жыл бұрын

    I knew I made the right choice on my Grendel.

  • @DinoNucci

    @DinoNucci

    4 жыл бұрын

    6.5 grendel can kiss my grendel

  • @brianmorrison9066

    @brianmorrison9066

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes....yes you did. Tell me more...

  • @DinoNucci

    @DinoNucci

    4 жыл бұрын

    @venom snake 6.5 Grendel is for those whom are transported about within a short bus - fact

  • @magicdaveable

    @magicdaveable

    3 жыл бұрын

    The AR platform is an engineering marvel. I do not care for it. I won't own one. My 6.5 Grendel began life as a Mini-30. It is easily a better rifle than a 6.5 Grendel AR. If I were going to own a .224 Valkyrie. I disagree with your proclamation that owning a .223. I don't really see a use for .223/5.56. The 6.5 Grendel is best for me since I have 2 excellent 6.5x55 SE Mausers.

  • @poormansshootingandreloadi8531

    @poormansshootingandreloadi8531

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@magicdaveable why do you think a 6.5 grendel in a mini 30 platform is better than the ar platform ? Just curious

  • @jarredlkling
    @jarredlkling5 жыл бұрын

    6.5 Grendel all the way

  • @dermotrooney9584

    @dermotrooney9584

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@casedismissedguaranteed49 Is that not an AR10?

  • @Zendail

    @Zendail

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol!!! Open mouth, insert foot!

  • @retiredretired8496

    @retiredretired8496

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@casedismissedguaranteed49 The best part of your stupidity was that you needed to edit also .

  • @procrastinatormatt

    @procrastinatormatt

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@casedismissedguaranteed49 the M5e1 uppers are for the ar10 sized rifles, not ar15.

  • @jarredlkling

    @jarredlkling

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@casedismissedguaranteed49 First off, Creedmore is a short action cartridge while the Ar-15 can only accept mini action cartridges. So Creedmore doesen't apply here. Sevond, in a short action rifle 6.5 PRC blows 6.5 Creedmore out of the water in every way possible. So in reality 6.5 Creedmore actualy wins nothing.

  • @LastCaress7
    @LastCaress75 жыл бұрын

    Im probably the only person here, but i shoot the 6.5 Grendel in a bolt action rifle. And i really love the cartridge. Huge performance in such a small good looking package. Plus no recoil. Im a bolt gun fanatic.

  • @Uberragen21

    @Uberragen21

    5 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely nothing wrong with a bolt action rifle. Rock what you got. 2A 👍

  • @codysexton5156

    @codysexton5156

    5 жыл бұрын

    I seen this same comment on a nutnfancy video.. Hmm..

  • @bmstylee

    @bmstylee

    4 жыл бұрын

    Where did you find that? I own an AR15 but I enjoy shooting bolt guns more. I'm an odd duck myself. I want a 223 bolt gun.

  • @loveracing1988

    @loveracing1988

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bmstylee howa 1500

  • @TylerHulan

    @TylerHulan

    4 жыл бұрын

    I just got a howa 1500 in .300 blk out for suppressor use when I get approved. On month 5 right now. Ive been eyeing another in either 6.5 grendel or 7.62x39. I love those mini action howas.

  • @ecliptix1
    @ecliptix15 жыл бұрын

    Your mock ups really helped illustrate your points, thanks for sharing

  • @hickoryboy30
    @hickoryboy305 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoy the deep discussions like this. It makes you think.

  • @tomlee6263
    @tomlee62634 жыл бұрын

    I've been reloading since '86 and I love your technical analysis of reloading... I'm still learning new stuff!

  • @lawtoncustom8582
    @lawtoncustom85825 жыл бұрын

    One of the best thought out and information backed cartridge/ reloading video's I have ever seen. Your knowledge coupled with experience+time+testing=trustworthy, dependable, and knowledgeable data. A formula rarely found on KZread. Your channel will be shared with many. Thank you for your dedication and time invested in these video's.

  • @raywells2858
    @raywells28582 жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite channels hands down. Great job putting out some great info for the shooting community!!!

  • @normbeauchamp7224
    @normbeauchamp72245 жыл бұрын

    Johnny, that was some outstanding information. Your like a walking encyclopedia. Very knowledgeable. Thanks for caring and sharing......

  • @beausef1410

    @beausef1410

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@casedismissedguaranteed49 isn't he talking about funny looking sponsored jackets that people wear at shooting competitions, not the military? Secondly, how is he making fun of the funny looking jackets, when he clearly said those are the guys to get info from?

  • @lapinebob

    @lapinebob

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@casedismissedguaranteed49 Your response is totally inappropriate. You sound like a a hateful lefty. You have the right not to participate.

  • @tobyn7649
    @tobyn76495 жыл бұрын

    Took me about 400 rounds to figure out the 224 Valkyrie. I really like the way it shoots, but I only shoot steel and paper with it so far. Settled on the 88 ELD and RL-19. The secret for me was overall length. Once I loaded to magazine length, the groups shrank to sub MOA. Built a 6.8 SPC 16" light barrel and love it. Way more energy for Hogs and Deer over the 223. And yes, I have shot and killed deer with the .223 Wylde, but I shoot 70 gr Barnes bullets and they do a very nice job on deer and hogs here in Texas. I am building a light barreled 6.5 Grendel this weekend and expect good things from it as well. I finally got on the AR band wagon a few years back and now I am fully bought in. I have set up all my AR's essentially the same to accept the clip on night vision as well. Very little recoil, magazine fed, reliable...all are great guns to take in the woods or punch holes and ring steel. Johnny's channel has also inspired me to hand load for all my rifles.

  • @BTCAsia
    @BTCAsia4 жыл бұрын

    It's only been a little over a year, but remaking/updating this video might make sense. Your suggestion for folks to first get a well functioning 223 rifle is excellent. We know there are hundreds of thousands of first time gun buyers who just bought a decent 223, but they want to know what else they can do with it. Buying a quality upper for varminting (22 Nosler) or deer hunting (6.5 Grendel) or long range precision (6mm ARC) is very appealing for folks with limited budgets. An expanded comparison with Hornady 6mm ARC and 300 Blackout would be very helpful. I notice you've been gone for 5 months now, I hope everything is good with you and your family. Take care,

  • @BikerBry
    @BikerBry4 жыл бұрын

    Love how you mentioned the backyard commando and “tactical” scam. So crazy how people buy the “cool factor” and will buy anything with a “tactical” stamp on it.

  • @wkf57
    @wkf575 жыл бұрын

    A great video Johnny, it really gets to the meat of what's the better caliber for the AR platform based upon needs. I really appreciate the detailed pros and cons concerning bullet weights and case longevity for the new offerings. Thank you.

  • @freshfowler1398
    @freshfowler13985 жыл бұрын

    For the money it's hard to beat Faxon barrels but I also like Ballistic Advantage. Thanks Johnny!👍👊🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @Ninjafluff
    @Ninjafluff5 жыл бұрын

    I love the wealth of info that you and your channel are. Thank you for sharing.

  • @squishyfaceguy
    @squishyfaceguy4 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. Thanks for the info. This makes choosing a round much easier.

  • @davidmccartney1017
    @davidmccartney10174 жыл бұрын

    Johnny. I gotta give ya 2 thumbs up! I have been listening and watching your vids about 2 months now. Mostly at work on company computer 😵😵 anyhow you know your stuff and give a lot of great info. Thanks for your time amd effort.

  • @Jerry-dk8se
    @Jerry-dk8se5 жыл бұрын

    Johnny, I have just recently started with 6.5 Grendel, and it's your channel that I reference for most of my information on this clambering. The hardest thing about the Grendel is that it is not as popular as the Creedmore, but I didn't want to get into an AR10 rifle. Thank you for all of your videos on the Grendel. Very mild shooting cartridge, and as soon as I can get a supply of brass, I'm hoping to show a lot more reloading and shooting videos on my channel. Good stuff, sir

  • @mark120371
    @mark1203715 жыл бұрын

    I've said once and i will say it agian, Johnny your sir are my hero. Great info and outstanding for anyone who was on the fence about what caliber to go with. The Grendel all day and Twice on Sunday. Truly the most versatile cartridge for the AR15 platform. Love my 6.5G laod with the 130gr Berger AR Hybrid moving out at around 2500fps the Grendel is a great 1000-1300 yard round. Would love to see you get into the 3 big bore AR15 ( 50 Beowulf, 458 SoCom and 450 Bushmaster) rounds at some point. But whatever content you put out is always gold!!!

  • @ATeamReilly
    @ATeamReilly4 жыл бұрын

    Great no nonsense, right to the point video. Absolutely fantastic

  • @IronAndDiesel
    @IronAndDiesel5 жыл бұрын

    Great point of view and summary from previous experience. Watching your 22 Nosler, 224 Val, and 6.5 Grendel videos my pick of the three is leaning towards 6.5 Grendel for the next upper. This video also gave me a lot to consider when deciding which cartridge to pick, other than 308, in a large frame AR. 260 Rem, 6.5 Creed, and 7mm-08 are in mind. More and more it seems like the mindset needs to be pick what bullet you want to shoot first and for what purpose then pick the cartridge best suited to shoot it.

  • @chkrbrdvans
    @chkrbrdvans3 жыл бұрын

    I always learn something on Johnny’s channel. Great videos!

  • @keithrhodes832
    @keithrhodes8325 жыл бұрын

    How about 6.8 SPC? Works great on this platform and is a great hunting round. It's supersonic out to about 600 yds. and ballistics are pretty good!

  • @amramhakohen7474

    @amramhakohen7474

    3 жыл бұрын

    6.8 is good enough for the DoD....a good intermediate round IMHO and 600 yards is the sweet-spot for most of us. (IOW can't hit shit past 500 yards anyway.)

  • @JoeZelensky

    @JoeZelensky

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@amramhakohen7474 not the same 6.8 at all.

  • @kimrandall8135

    @kimrandall8135

    2 жыл бұрын

    I heard the 6.5 Grendel is supersonic at 1000 yards.

  • @crashdsnowman1

    @crashdsnowman1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kimrandall8135 Going to try to shoot deer or hogs at 1000yds?

  • @HoofPrintsDR
    @HoofPrintsDR5 жыл бұрын

    My next upper will be in 6.5 Grendel, but love shooting the 223 and Johnny’s 223 videos are the best

  • @joquin4618
    @joquin46185 жыл бұрын

    Best info on ammo choices and reloading by far!! Thanks man!!

  • @Jiminico
    @Jiminico5 жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation Johnny!

  • @effeojnedib7208
    @effeojnedib72083 жыл бұрын

    Great video with excellent information ! Thanks for sharing !

  • @MRTOMBO
    @MRTOMBO5 жыл бұрын

    For the first time ever I've thought I might like to pick up an AR-15 (not a knock, just haven't picked up shooting with a carbine is all): Alexander Arms 6.5 Grendel Hunter. Dunno, the 6.5 Grendel Hunter from Alexander Arms has caught my attention, and I'm somewhat fascinated with the Grendel round that can turn an 18" barrel rifle into a 1000-yard shooter. I'm a complete novice mind you, but it seems there's something to a round that stays supersonic at 1,200-ish yards I think it is. Anyway, thanks for the vid.

  • @J9_j3
    @J9_j35 жыл бұрын

    THE BEST cartridge comparison EVER!

  • @DinoNucci

    @DinoNucci

    4 жыл бұрын

    It IS pretty legit

  • @bryanst.martin7134
    @bryanst.martin71345 жыл бұрын

    My 3 best AR15 cartridges: .300BO, 6.5G, and .458 SOCOM. With careful shopping you can have them all for a grand. A single, reliable acting lower, and no lack of compromise if unlawfully confronted. And the .458 can be subbed as well. I'm avoiding the 223/556 due to potential chambering issues with the BO. So, one becomes three. Subtle to devastating. Minimal spare parts requirement. :-)

  • @mps9608
    @mps96084 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the great info. After watching I feel I made a good decision going with the 224 Valkyrie over the 22 nosler. And limiting the 223 to 77 grain. I have a bolt AR with 24" barrel 1-7 twist and plan on shooting 62gn to 77gn bullets. and shooting > 77gn in the 224 Valkyrie, also 24"barrel.

  • @toki89666
    @toki896665 жыл бұрын

    Fellow Kentuckian here who just stumbled upon your channel. I subscribed.

  • @andrewstoll4548
    @andrewstoll45485 жыл бұрын

    Awesome advice in the beginning about getting a good .223 barrel that shoots small groups.

  • @RealBlueGene
    @RealBlueGene5 жыл бұрын

    Your idea about how people should use the pictures on the company website to determine who you're going to buy a barrel from is great, Really spot on! Guess I've thought about that subconsciously, but never put it in those words. Definitely going to plagiarize the term.

  • @theunofficialresults231
    @theunofficialresults2315 жыл бұрын

    Just finished my .224 Valkyrie build with a Wilson Combat 20" barrel with 1-6.5" twist, and first 10 shot group with factory Federal 90g smk had 8 of 10 shots inside 1" Number 8 landed 1" out of the group, right where my crosshairs were when I let it go, and shot 9 landed 1/8" low of the main group and pretty sure it was me. So far I am pleased, especially with almost everyone else having issues. I'll know more this spring when I can put more rounds through it.

  • @tbugher62
    @tbugher625 жыл бұрын

    I have hunted Elk and Deer with my Grendel,a great round,with long range ability.

  • @gradualpull2171
    @gradualpull21714 жыл бұрын

    I really recommend this guys mentality when looking for different rifle caliber modular rifles to choose from.

  • @brianheroux
    @brianheroux5 жыл бұрын

    Oh man, great video! Thanks Johnny!

  • @1LSWilliam
    @1LSWilliam4 жыл бұрын

    Great work. Excellent presentation.

  • @dermotrooney9584
    @dermotrooney95845 жыл бұрын

    Lovely vid J Man. Cheers.

  • @zacharyroach1990
    @zacharyroach19905 жыл бұрын

    I put together a ar recently and have been nothing but happy with it, seems to shoot good regardless of the bullet weight i load for it!

  • @stewmanmilner7843
    @stewmanmilner78434 жыл бұрын

    Does a great job explaining.

  • @nospam3409
    @nospam34094 жыл бұрын

    Love the Grendel. I'm getting 1/2 moa out of mine out to 400 yds with several different loads including my whitetail load that pushes a 105gr MKZ over 2700 fps. It's did a great job on Indiana whitetail this year.

  • @MrRayray81
    @MrRayray815 жыл бұрын

    Love the video! I would like to also say that I've had really good luck with Faxon barrels. They are reasonably priced as well.

  • @DinoNucci

    @DinoNucci

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. They are legit. Buttoned barrels are top notch

  • @edjames5258
    @edjames52585 жыл бұрын

    I love my Rock River AR15 .223 wylde .25" 100 yds three round groups out of the box. Full disclosure they were my own personal handloads. Oh yea great video first time watcher

  • @jcm4590
    @jcm45905 жыл бұрын

    Great information, Johnny. Thank you.

  • @boblane5169
    @boblane51695 жыл бұрын

    As usual a great video Johnny thanks for all the information! I have built both, a great shooting 223 with a 16 inch Wyld barrel, and a great shooting 18 inch Grendel. So glad that I didn't jump on the 224 Valkyrie or 22 Nosler band wagon. I love reloading and buying cases all the time can get expensive. I also got an 18 inch 300 Ham"r barrel from Wilson Combat and love shooting a 30 caliber with ballistic comparison to a proven 30/30 cartridge, like a 300 Blackout on steroids just no sub sonic loads, but I have my 300 Blackouts for that.

  • @duysince1985
    @duysince19854 жыл бұрын

    I loveeeee theory of operation videos like this. Thank you so much.

  • @dantheman9534
    @dantheman95345 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Johnny! Very well explained!!

  • @geesss8675
    @geesss86754 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always.

  • @akompsupport
    @akompsupport5 жыл бұрын

    Great content! Thanks for posting!

  • @salg7998
    @salg79985 жыл бұрын

    Great videos! Keep up the good work!

  • @sofjanmustopoh7232
    @sofjanmustopoh72325 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the explanation. Most other just foamed in the mouth and talking about things that don't even matter. Or just making up stuff. But you are the best !!!

  • @snapshotscorner5542
    @snapshotscorner55423 жыл бұрын

    You got me curious about the 6.5 Grendel. Thanks, just subscribed to your channel.

  • @thebigmansoutdoors
    @thebigmansoutdoors5 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff as always. I enjoyed the comparison. I agree that is all depends on what you want to do. I think they all have their place in the lineup somewhere. I am shooting and reloading for the .224 Valkyrie. Also agree with the brass life issue, hoping at some point that will get sorted out. Only time will tell.

  • @may2888
    @may28884 жыл бұрын

    Great information, as usual!

  • @TheSpragg01
    @TheSpragg015 жыл бұрын

    Solid video Johnny.

  • @PatriotPaulUSA
    @PatriotPaulUSA4 жыл бұрын

    We should add an addendum of listing the awesome cartridges of .223, of course we have the .300 blkout and the awesome 22TCM! I recently learned of .22TCM while shopping reviews of the new Ruger 5.7. This awesome little pistol cartridge based on the .223 case cut and re-necked to .22 fires a 40 grain round out of a 17 shot 1911 at 2100+ FPS! Basically nearly the same as the 5.7! This smokes .22WMR by 250 FPS and 100 FtLbs! (it has roughly 400ft lbs of energy!) I have just found my next pistol that can be reloaded for cheap! There are rifles made for this amazing little caliber also. I will even get over my disdain for the poor politics of Illinois,Rock River Arms Co.who makes them. I see 1000 rounds .22TCM loaded are 149.95 or 200 rounds loaded sell for 31.99! Also we can reload it ourselves cheap! Lee and Hornady make dies! How did I miss this .22TCP ? I nearly bought a crappy trigger, expensive ammo, and hard to reload 5.7 cal Ruger. The 2 calibers handguns are about the same price, but the savings will continue forever with .223 based .22TCM! As a bonus the Rock River Arms 1911 handguns also come with a free 9mm barrel and a decent trigger that can be made like glass! Something FN and Ruger will never have with the 5.7.

  • @gregoblv5561
    @gregoblv55615 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making this a separate video. I may not have watched one on the 22 Nosler or 224. They are not solid hits on my radar. I am working on a 223 Wylde, 300 Blackout and a 7.62x 39 builds and am really interested in the 6.5 Grendel, maybe next. And since I reload, your input on the brass issues really solidified my choices. Thanks again.

  • @joshualance6005

    @joshualance6005

    5 жыл бұрын

    Get the 6.5 can't beat it especially with cheap ammo like wolf and wolf gold. Really good bullet selection. And 1200yd range

  • @joelclark2130
    @joelclark21305 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, Johnny you did a great job explaining the differences and the pros and cons I would have to agree 223/556 is definitely the way to start out.

  • @chrisraymond9744
    @chrisraymond97445 жыл бұрын

    I own a 20", 16", and 10.5" Grendel. Built the last two myself. Love the 6.5. Next build is going to be a 22 Grendel, just because I can. Heard it gets better results than the 224 Val, and isn't having the accuracy issues folks are seeing with the 224 Val. I never shoot my 5.56 or 7.62x39 anymore. The Grendel does it all well. Keep up the great work Johnny!

  • @ace95835

    @ace95835

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm REALLY wanting to do a 6.5 Grendel build this year, but I'm torn on the barrel length and profile. Any recommendations?

  • @6OSCARMIKEBAND

    @6OSCARMIKEBAND

    5 жыл бұрын

    MattFrmSac - 20” Odin Works 1:8 twist. 416R Stainless, Rifle Length gas port, that came with Odin Works BCG and an adjustable low profile Gas block that I’ve set opened up 45% flow for Suppression and Using a load work up as follows: - 30.8 gr of BL-C (2), Hornady Brass trimmed to 1.511”, CCI 450 Magnum primer. The COAL utilizing the Hornady 123gr ELD came out to 2.260”. This combo yielded 5 rounds that created one hole group that measured 0.457” in diameter Actual Velocity: 2,451 fps SD: 14.6. Did this just today. I own (2) 300 AAC BLK (also thanks to Johnny) and ROCK RIVER “Operator” 5.56 NATO ARs. Love that Grendel! Optic is the Sig Sauer BDX 5-14X44 “Sierra 3” that pairs via blue tooth to a phone app and the “Kilo 1800 BDX” range finder and provides your fire solution electronically to your crosshairs and lights up the correct ballistic holdover mark inside the reticle, which takes all the guess work out and provides the perfect point of impact. Essentially, making you look like a Rock Star at the range as you smack bullseyes all day long!

  • @chrisraymond9744

    @chrisraymond9744

    5 жыл бұрын

    MattFrmSac The 16" BHW barreled rifle is my do everything Grendel. I mostly use the 20" AA GDMR for longer range target and varmint shooting. The 10.5" BHW barreled pistol is my truck gun. I travel a lot to some pretty remote places, and a 10.5" Grendel will reach out to 300 yards with some decent energy. Don't feel under-gunned even though it is such a concealable weapon.

  • @chrisraymond9744

    @chrisraymond9744

    5 жыл бұрын

    MattFrmSac Forgot to mention optics. I use a 4-14 IOR w/MP8 on the 20". Minox 1-8 on the 16". ACOG 1.5 w/ ACSS on the 10.5". Have an OSS Helix Ti, that I mount on the 16 and 10.5. My preference is to stick with an 18" or 16" barrel. Don't give up much, and easier and lighter to carry around.

  • @mawalters52

    @mawalters52

    5 жыл бұрын

    6.5 Creedmoor will not fit in the AR15 platform, which is what this video is about.

  • @junglejim7664
    @junglejim76645 жыл бұрын

    Great summary!

  • @corymcneal1995
    @corymcneal19955 жыл бұрын

    I'm looking at a 6.5 grendel. Washington state doesn't allow hunting with a 5.56, .22 nozler or the .224 valkary. So looking to replace my 5.56 with a general purpose rifle I can hunt with and be a defense rifle. 6.5 meets this.

  • @yolo-qr2fq

    @yolo-qr2fq

    5 жыл бұрын

    6.5 Grendel would be great for hunting but I would still stay with your 556 upper and get some good factory rounds that expand well. I think the 6.5 Grendel is great for long range over 556 but steel core 556 would be a great self defense round. I know a guy that was in the military and the green tip could go through a Humvee windshield and a standard 7.62x39 round wouldn't.

  • @WartimeFriction

    @WartimeFriction

    5 жыл бұрын

    If 6.5 meets your requirements for a hunting rifle, go with that. I'm sure it will still work just fine, as long as you don't have any neighbors right beside your walls.

  • @joshualance6005

    @joshualance6005

    5 жыл бұрын

    6.5 is e xelent for hunting I use mine more than any other rifle plus it out performs 556 in every single way. Ps u can find good defence ammo that won't over penetrate like Underwood controlled chaos

  • @joshualance6005

    @joshualance6005

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@yolo-qr2fq na u can get bullets for 6.5 that won't over penetrate like hornady A max or Underwood controlled chaos

  • @xd45acpshooter

    @xd45acpshooter

    5 жыл бұрын

    @william terry Not in his, as all 22s are illegal to hunt with.

  • @troynichols9788
    @troynichols97884 жыл бұрын

    Great vid. Best I've come across. New sub.

  • @gregrichardson2528
    @gregrichardson25285 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Johnny!! Great video. I always learn so much from your videos. Keep up the excellent work. I do, however, take issue with your "goofy shooting jackets" comment... :D

  • @Jon38
    @Jon383 жыл бұрын

    That was the best explaination of ogive I've ever heard. Thanks for that. And I like Grendel a lot as well.

  • @jongruen7854
    @jongruen78545 жыл бұрын

    Love my Grendel! But I still have a lot of good shooting with .223/5.56. Do not see a practical need for 22 nosler and 224 valkyrie.

  • @bermchasin

    @bermchasin

    5 жыл бұрын

    MOAR POWAR

  • @jeremys8360

    @jeremys8360

    4 жыл бұрын

    224 valkyrie uses longer, heavier, higher bc bullets

  • @ccmogs5757

    @ccmogs5757

    4 жыл бұрын

    Grendel is where i would go also besides the "normal" 223/308 :)

  • @dxpvxo711

    @dxpvxo711

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm a little confused cause I'm shooting 120-140grn bullets out of my grendel how does 224 valkyrie with its 60-90grn 22 cal bullet on avg longer and heavier? Heavy for caliber ? U mean ? Sure...

  • @kyleabrams5036

    @kyleabrams5036

    4 жыл бұрын

    From my understanding (which admittedly isn't a ton) 224 supposedly performs better at longer ranges than 223. 300 yards plus, it seems like a round for long target shooters.

  • @vastv7082
    @vastv70825 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Johnny

  • @WestDesertShooter
    @WestDesertShooter5 жыл бұрын

    Great descriptions

  • @jonjames4281
    @jonjames42815 жыл бұрын

    Spot on, 223/556 first... Now I understand what you were saying about the 22noz, and the 224v being different animals. thanks... the confusion over the 6.5g type 1 or 2 bolt face, along with the type 1 or 2 chamber/throat, (chaos), being all but over, seems like it's really a better choice. all that confusion didn't do the 6.5g any favors with peoples opinions. I like that I can buy cheap, bulk, Wolf ammo for the 6.5g for plinking while hand loading the good stuff for hunting and accuracy. not much different than the 223/556. excellent vid, thanks.

  • @joshualance6005

    @joshualance6005

    5 жыл бұрын

    6.5 out performs 224 valkyrie in energy weight and bullet selection and ammo is cheaper 6.5 is better than 556 in every way possible

  • @Foxxnioxx
    @Foxxnioxx4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video brother

  • @darrinmcgann
    @darrinmcgann5 жыл бұрын

    You've made up my mind. My next upper is gonna be 6.5 Grendel . Thanks

  • @joshualance6005

    @joshualance6005

    5 жыл бұрын

    Can't beat the 6.5 grendel I love mine IV taken many white tail with it bullet selection is great and wolf ammo is only 230$ for 1000rds. Plus 1200yd range can't beat it

  • @DinoNucci

    @DinoNucci

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh dear, not another one

  • @fitmikeymike2989
    @fitmikeymike29895 жыл бұрын

    I love my 300 blackout. I also have a 6.8 AR. If it was not so expensive to shoot. Awesome and accurate.

  • @norrisdillahuntjr4570
    @norrisdillahuntjr45703 жыл бұрын

    They have a 6mm arc that out preforms the Grendel

  • @ZZstaff
    @ZZstaff4 жыл бұрын

    I can hear Inspector Jacques Clouseau now, "ah yes, the old talking hand video".

  • @amethystsunangel1955
    @amethystsunangel19554 жыл бұрын

    Great information. Thank you

  • @YoungRell1987
    @YoungRell19875 жыл бұрын

    Awesome!! Thank You for the information

  • @benjaminnevins5211
    @benjaminnevins52115 жыл бұрын

    458 socom with the 325gr Hornady FTX. In WI we rarely shoot over 50 yards.

  • @SheepDogNumber6
    @SheepDogNumber65 жыл бұрын

    Good take on things.

  • @hphillips7425
    @hphillips74254 жыл бұрын

    I agree with your cartridge choice and Kentucky is a great state for nice deer. My age and CWD has put a damper on my hunting. Thanks and have a good one 👍

  • @glen4130
    @glen41304 жыл бұрын

    Lots of good info.

  • @joeluis2455
    @joeluis24555 жыл бұрын

    So my first ar15 was 556 bushmaster Carbon15, it has a pencil barrel with a 1/9twist and coasted 500 bucks. And it shoots better then expected. However i recently bought a 300 blackout with a 16inch barrel that have fallen in love with. So now i got me a silencer and a new saint spring field armory pistol in 300 black oht and i love it. I may be building a ar10 pistol soon

  • @MTNcorps
    @MTNcorps4 жыл бұрын

    omg i found my new nerd out channel. outstanding!

  • @travelerfourever1347
    @travelerfourever13475 жыл бұрын

    First, thank you for your extremely informative video. I just ordered a 224 20 inch upper with a 1 to 6.5 twist so I'm a novelist in the Valerie line You mentioned the brass casing on the 224 did not hold up well for reloading. Is the weight of the newest casings the same 117 grains as the ones sent to you for your 2017 video? Are the newer casings just not as we build and that's why they don't hold up well for reload? Federal is reworking their 90 Grain Sierra Matchking and no inventory is available. Do you know a release date for the reworked cartridge?

  • @joselo-zl5wo
    @joselo-zl5wo4 жыл бұрын

    To really make the right decision on what rifle calibers are the best choices for you is to be completely honest about what is it that you are going to used it for and want to accomplish . Know what is the maximum range you can shoot where you live , how often are you going to go out and shoot and be completely honest with yourself about your goal ( AND A SUPER IMPORTANT POINT IS TO MENTION HOW MUCH MONEY YOU ARE WILLING TO INVEST IN THIS PROJECTS) could be hunting, sports, plinking, self defense, etc. I own almost all the ar15 platform rifle calibers just missing a couple (I really don't think I'm going to get them [ shot them plentiful and if I own them they wouldn't be shot that often ].... I own all kinds of rifles ( new and old. Ww1 ww2 and present times, bolt action, long barrels , short ones. Ar10,,, in different calibers, etc.) I have shot almost all calibers available in the gun world. Accuracy is my passion , every shot counts.... pushing the limits and learning how to place a shot right where you want it or need it to hit is my SPECIFIC goal!!! Is fun to learn about ballistic performance and accuracy along with the new technology that is becoming available to own!!! also own quite a few pellet rifles and let me tell you that is quite a challenge to really understand the perfomance of these guns which by the way they are no toys, some of them are as expensive and deadly ( at 10 to 15 yards) as an ar15. AND JUST LIKE ANY GUN JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE EXPENSIVE DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY ACCURATE OUT OF THE BOX. And yes the ones that are not so expensive can be amazingly accurate as well. But u have to find the pellet that you barrel likes. MOST IMPORTANTLY OF ALL IS: UNDERSTANDING THAT IF YOU WANT TO BE CONSTANTLY HITTING ON TARGET U NEED TO FIND THE BULLET WEIGHT AND BRAND YOUR RIFLE LIKES. UNDERSTAND THAT A WELL PLACED SHOT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN PRACTICING:AND UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU AND YOUR RIFLE BECOME ONE.... BREATHING , TRIGGER PULL, KNOWING HOW USE YOUR SCOPE (IF YOU USE ONE) OR IRON SIGHTS . AND UNDERSTANDING BALLISTICS AND HOW THE BULLETS THAT YOU CHOSE PERFORM IN YOUR RIFLE. there is lots and lots of talk about bullet performance out there.... realistically any caliber is potentially deadly for hunting. Shot placing is specially important, distance, etc. In reality the great majority of hunting kills happens between 30 to a 150 yards away from the shooter.

  • @30Huckleberry

    @30Huckleberry

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think people buy into marketing to much. The 6.5X47 and 260 Remington were out before the 6.5 creedmoor but hornady marketed it well. If people already reload a bullet in a rifle cartridge they should just get an AR cartridge that uses the same or similar weight bullet. I agree that most target and hunting distances are limited to where the differences in most cartridges is negligible.

  • @yt_life1610
    @yt_life16105 жыл бұрын

    Great subject great content great video thanks for the info

  • @bjm1219
    @bjm12193 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Any plans to cover the 6mm ARC in a similar way?

  • @daviddale3624
    @daviddale36245 жыл бұрын

    Well covered in the discussion but cover the H2O case capacities.

  • @tjarmand
    @tjarmand5 жыл бұрын

    I use starline in 224 Valkyrie and I have not had any problems with the primer pockets.. although I did when I started this cartridge o 5 moths ago but now no issues at all.. great fun...

  • @arkenopticsusadealer9215

    @arkenopticsusadealer9215

    4 жыл бұрын

    The most insightful group on how to reload the Valkyrie is the Facebook group Valkyrie Ascending focused on reloading this cartridge since it came out there is over 2+ years ago with tons of knowledge in the group.. facebook.com/groups/398943407218038/

  • @davey.j.bowski9299
    @davey.j.bowski92995 жыл бұрын

    Helll yesss another reason to do my faxon 6.5 grendel pistol build

  • @DinoNucci

    @DinoNucci

    4 жыл бұрын

    Grendel can kiss my grendel but Faxon barrels are legit

  • @conebread711
    @conebread7115 жыл бұрын

    Great information.

  • @frijoli9579
    @frijoli95795 жыл бұрын

    The 6.5 Grendel and 300Blackout are my favorites.

  • @DinoNucci

    @DinoNucci

    4 жыл бұрын

    👎🏼

  • @wwaytobe
    @wwaytobe5 жыл бұрын

    Great Information ! I have a good 5.56, looking to 6.5 Grendel and rock the 120-123gr for bigger game.

  • @joshualance6005

    @joshualance6005

    5 жыл бұрын

    Get it it out performs all other ar15 cartridges bullet selection is huge and ammo is cheap wolf makes 100grn fmj 6.5 grendel for 230$ for 1000rds. and my gun shoots 11/2 in with it. 350 for 1000 in privi partisan 120grn brass cased hp, or wold gold 120grn brass cased hp. Plus 1200yrd max range

  • @Fallout777
    @Fallout7774 жыл бұрын

    Great video thank you.

  • @SearchingMessenger
    @SearchingMessenger4 жыл бұрын

    Great channel - I've also watched most of 224 Valk videos. I use CCI #41 primers and found primer pocket enlargement problems in 224 V and 6.5 Grendel near max loads. If I back them down I still get max velocities with lower charges. I think it's the nature of the "magnum" primer. I use QL and adjust the burn factor until the velocity matches my LabRadar - and if that velocity shown is not over max pressure - primer pocket failures seem to subside. It's close. I usually go down .2 or .3 less to accommodate warmer temps. I also noticed this issue with #34 CCI in 6.5 Creedmoor. Just my 2 cents and theory. I use a pocket primer Gage to check.

  • @copper12heavy69
    @copper12heavy695 жыл бұрын

    What a wonderful video.

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