Love the 6BRA 107 smk and R16 at 2855

I run my 6creed with a 110 Atip at 3165 😅 with under a published max load with h4350, it is a 26” barrel and it hammers as tight as I can shoot it. .4-.5 consistently

Great comparison Rob. For 6’s right now I only have ARC and Dasher. I also shoot my ARC in the 110 Switchback. I am shooting 95 SMK’s at 3k FPS. It’s a pretty amazing round for the size of the powder column. My Dasher is at 2930 with Berger 108 BTT’s. Both are extremely accurate cartridges. Unfortunately for my wallet, I also have a 6.5 disease as well. I run a Grendel, a Creed (6.5 Manbun as I like to call it), and the 6.5x47 Lapua. I love both 6 and 6.5 stuff, but if I had to choose just one, it’s the 6.5x47. I shoot the 130 Berger OTM at 2900 and it is stupid easy out to 750 (the longest distance I have available). The Dasher is unbelievable as well. Maybe I’d choose it instead…..Man, I’m glad I don’t have to choose just 1. Anyways, a 6.5 comparison should be next on your list. Would like to see which ones you still have. I’ve watched a lot of your early videos so I know you have at least a couple.

@texpatriot8462

5 ай бұрын

I shoot the 6 ARC in my Switchback as well. Love it. I wish had the need for a Howa mini with a carbon barrel and stock.

6 ARC is a fantastic little cartridge and beats out 6BR in my opinion simply due to availability and SAAMI spec

Good video. The 6 creedmoor is interesting as a hunting cartridge since I like the 243. I think it would be a good deer catcher 👍

I have 6mm arc and 6mm Creedmoor. Love them both

6mm Creed 🔥

Good vid. Thanks for sharing Rob.

The 6 CM will allow you to use a shorter barrel and still keep the MV up high so bullet performance is still good.

I have all 4 and love all 4. My BR is not a BRA but I love it the most. I also have Dasher and it’s a close 2nd. They all have there plus’s and minus’s but they’re all fun cartridges! Love the 6mm! Great video Rob!

Great info thanks

Just got a Seekins in 223. Hoping they come back with the 6GT. That one seems to the the ideal blend of speed, low powder consumption and barrel life. Or maybe I'll have to try a third party.

Nice to know I'm not the only 6mm whore out there. 6 ARC, 6 RAT, 6 Dasher, 6X47L, 6 XC, and .243. Love them all but the Dasher is my favorite, it's just so easy to load for and it's accuracy is awesome. Got a little over 3000 rounds out of my last Dasher barrel before it got really hard to clean, accuracy was still 1/2 moa but the throat looked like someone had taken a blow torch to it. 6 ARC and RAT are AR rounds for me and great hunting cartridges, does a number on the yotes. 6X47L was the most difficult for me to get comfortable with but after putting enough rounds down range I came to appreciate it's velocity advantage and found the 115 gr. DTAC hits hard at distance. Good content Rob.

@robertthurman3743

5 ай бұрын

I'm keen to build another 6. I have my eye on 6X47L and the GT since I want to run in a magazine and use small rifle primers. XC is cool too, but I want to stick with SRPs since I have WAY more of them than LRPs.

easy choice to choose from these as which can you get factory ammo for at the big box stores. also which has the least recoil but still accurate out to 700to1000 yards, which has easy to get factory reloading components for, seems like the ARC (This is The Way) !!!!! also can hunt with out to practical distances, 95% of hunters, take shots no farther than 200yds

Very Nice! A clear explanation of each. I like the 6ARC as its easily run in both Ar15 and Bolt guns. I have a 6.5 Creedmoor so I am not as exited about the 6 Creedmoor. If all I had was Ar10s and bolt guns I would lean to 6 Creedmoor tho like you said. Buy a nice barrel for your favorite caliber like your Krieger, and enjoy!

I have the 6mmAR turbo, neck down 6.5 Grendel case. Very accurate 90gr flat base Berger with RL15.

I don't shoot a 6mm cartridge yet but am planning on a 6GT build, and considering a 6 ARC bolt gun build as well for plinking at the range

All good. Thank you.

Have you ever loaded 6 arc with lighter bullets like a 75 grain? Considering this for coyotes.

Iv been looking at shooting lighter 6mm bullets an getting a gun chambered in 6x45 6-6.8spc or the 6mm-204 is pretty impressive ... honestly the shorter barrel velocities impressed me with all 3....

with 41.5 grains of h4350, i am getting 3250 feet per second with my 26 inch barrel 6 creedmoor. That load ran great for a while but i suppose with the barrel fouling, i started punching holes in primers. I backed it down to 41 grains and am still getting 3200 after cleaning my barrel.

I have a ARC in a 24" gas gun PRS rig that I've done ok with. Had a Dasher built last year (really love that rifle) but I'm getting ready to build a 6 ARC bolt gun that will be set up identical to my Dasher. The ARC will be my training rifle due to barrel life and the Dasher will be my match rifle.

@billcarlson852

2 ай бұрын

Go with proof research barrel and you will be HAPPY😊😊😊😊😊

Thanks Rob great explanation! Do you know which one between 6gt and 6 dasher has worse mag feeding issues?

@jimbonfire1

Ай бұрын

I have a 6 GT and I've never had a feeding issue. Magpul 308 magazine in a Savage action. I have several friends with both and I don't believe they've ever mentioned feeding issues with the GT. I do know they've had to make modifications to their Dasher mags. There's a data point for you at least

I have a Howa Mini in 6 Arc. I’m having a barrel made for it by bartlein at the moment to get the most I can out of it. I bought most of what was needed for a 6 dasher build but ultimately went with the Arc because I wanted factory options and I really like that 28 grains of varget out of a 26 in barrel will hit 2750 fps for a 108 gr bullet. Varget is expensive and if I can use as little as possible I will. I also went with the Arc over the dasher because I can fit it in a micro action and have a handier package for a multipurpose rifle.

@oif3vetk9

5 ай бұрын

Try vihtavouri N140. It's pretty much identical to Varget except the price.

@Bubbybub0077

5 ай бұрын

@@oif3vetk9 Will do. Im hoping to get good accuracy with CFE223 for general availability and the velocity boost.

Which shoot flatter?

I used to shoot a 6mm 22-250 with imr 4350 I shoot it at 2700 sierra107 that was slow . But I took it to 3300 rounds accuracy had started to fall off wondering it the same thing wouldn't work with the 6 creed more

There's a new gas gun 6mm out called 6max, based on 350legend, same bolt face diameter as 223.

I was looking at getting the 6 creedmoor as a prs style rifle as the brass is easy to get. and i think if i loaded it with 4831sc i could slow it down to help extend the barrel life and brass should last longer i believe.

@RobsReloading

5 ай бұрын

Why not go with Dasher, be or GT? Brass available isn't bad right now then no need to down load the cartridge. 6 creed has a lot of case capacity.

@philswann

5 ай бұрын

@@RobsReloading Agreed. I don't think you'd want 65% full 6 Creed loads, especially with SRP brass.

@Bubbybub0077

5 ай бұрын

Lots of people are setting up 26" and 28" prs rifles in 6 ARC now. Running varget with a 28" Barrel you can drive 110 grain bullets at 2750 fps and be a good bit below max charge. Also shooters report seeing 4000-6000 rounds of life per barrel. Remember the most important rule of barrel burnout is heat and erosion due to powder flow during ignition. Speed does little to affect barrel life. This is why 223 and 204 ruger barrels can last 5,000+ rounds before changes even though speeds are in excess of 3200 fps. The 6 creedmoor will be burning about 38-39 grains of 4831sc to push a 110 gr bullet at about 2750 fps with a 24" barrel. The 6 ARC with a 28" barrel will do the same 2700-2750 fps but with only 28 grains of varget. That's a 35% increase in powder for zero increase in speed. Just something to consider if you expect round counts to be high.

@1clnsdime1

5 ай бұрын

You are on the right track. I run my 6 creed with the 109 hybrid at 2800. With Lapua brass I am plenty full with the bullet seated down to the doughnut, and at the speed, it is super soft. I see too many people in the PRS world going to small and then really kicking it when all they need to do is step up to a GT or a 6cm. Everyone has their opinion, but when I get to a match with some farther stages, I will find some BR and dasher on the ground with blown primers.

Great compared. But I’m still waiting for 6mm max

Thoughts on Dasher?

@RobsReloading

5 ай бұрын

Never shot one but wouldn't question going with Dasher.

On the 6 Creedmoor try Berger 105 gr CCI BR 2 N-555 Alpha brass WOW!!!! SD in the 1 and 2, ES 2and 4😊😊😊😊😊

We're is the dasher

Get your hands on the new 6mm Max cartridge from SOLGW for comparison to 6 ARC

If the 6 dasher, 6bra, 6GT, 6CM, etc are all pushing the same 105 grainer at 2850 fps, does the cartridge really matter at a PRS match?

@RobsReloading

5 ай бұрын

It's matters due to barrel life, ease of reloading, accuracy, and feeding. You choose what factors matter most your your use.

@joethearcticfox

5 ай бұрын

All of the reasons above as well as brass and barrel/reamer availability, and the need to fire form or not. I shoot with several people who choose their cartridge based on what their preferred brass manufacturer is currently producing. There's a bunch of other options too, 6XC, 6x47, 6BRX...

@andyjonathan2486

5 ай бұрын

Perhaps didn’t ask my question very well. With regards to performance the bullet on target, if everyone at the PRS match is running essentially the same 25 lbs gamer rig with a Bart/Krieg barrel, impact 737, foundation/MPA/MDT chassis, and pushing the same 105 Berger hybrid 2900-2600 FPS, with similar 0.5 moa dispersion, and sub 25 ES with tight waterlines, is there really a significant performance difference between the 6mm chamberings (using the 308 bolt face), which can significantly influence the score board? Granted, supply chain challenges will always be an uncontrolled variable (the new 6max for instance). Most PRS competitors are all running quality components (lapua/alpha/Peterson brass, Berger bullets, h4350) and regardless of which BR shoulder angle they’ve chosen, there’s often more points lost from natural point of aim, bad wind calls, not finding targets, not spotting misses, wrong target engagement, timing out, etc. Myself and a few friends all ran the same mock PRS stage, and we traded rigs back and fourth with each other as an experiment (6GT, 6BR, 6CM, 6Dasher) and the results were consistently the same; the most talented shooter still cleaned the COF fastest regardless of cartridge. While I agree if I gas up a 6CM pushing a 115 dtac at 3200 fps, barrel life will suffer, however if we’re generally running similar competition loads, I have a difficult time believing cartridge selection plays as large of a role as we think, and we may be tinkering for the sake of tinkering. I found this YT video pretty interesting regarding this topic: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lKCA2qmHdb2ydJM.htmlsi=fASCyXMkGXxp3ER_

@DanielReyes-hz1qk

3 ай бұрын

The Precision Rifle Blog just had a few good articles on this exact subject, you should check them out. I was surprised to find out that none of the top 3 overall PRS competitors last year were running 6BR, 6 Dasher, or 6 ARC. Went into a lot of details as to why there may be a shift in calibers towards the 25s in the near future (which would be great, because then I could get 6mm components easier)

I can push over 2700 fps in a 20" barrel and not exceed book data using Varget and 108gr bullet. I am sure I could push it faster safely but I am running my loads in the 2650 fps range.

Is 6br and 6bra the same thing. Sorry for dumb questions

@RobsReloading

Ай бұрын

No bra is ackley improve BR very similar just different shoulder angle

@ThinkSoberly

Ай бұрын

@@RobsReloading got it thank you! Love your channel

If you use H4350 I 6gt you can runs a 105-109 to about 3200fps

I'd love to see the 6maxx added to this

@RobsReloading

5 ай бұрын

I have just become aware of 6mm max. I would be interested to see what one would do with a long throat in a bolt gun with coal extended so long 6mm bullets not seated deeply in a case.

@spread4me75

5 ай бұрын

@@RobsReloading it's definitely an interesting round, the ballistics iv seen on it are very impressive, but it's so new I'm not sure how reliable the numbers I'm seeing are, but very impressive if true

@spread4me75

5 ай бұрын

@@RobsReloading the coal can't be too long, it fits in an ar-15

@RobsReloading

5 ай бұрын

@@spread4me75 I don't have any interest in running it in an AR. I'd be interested in a bolt gun with long coal.

@spread4me75

5 ай бұрын

@@RobsReloading my interest lies in a gas gun, this seems like possibly the ultimate gas gun cartridge, that's what the 6max, 6arc are trying to achieve without having to go to the bigger ar10 platform

Been debating what 6mm I want next, already have a 243 win and I'm happy with it but thinking I want a gay tiger next

@Bubbybub0077

5 ай бұрын

Get the ARC. I had a 243 and ran the numbers, 24" barrel to 24" barrel the arc will keep up with the 243 in terms of hunting performance. I have run the numbers on mine and I the 243 and ARC are neck and neck with the right bullets. The 243 with a 90 grain eld-x holds expansion velocity out to 600 yards. The 6 arc with a 103 grain eld-x holds expansion velocity out to 600 yards but does it with 110 more foot pounds of energy than the 243. I also trust my 6 ARC to hit the target at 600 yards, the 243, not so much. You also save about 15 grains of powder using the arc vs the 243. I love my 243 and will pass it down one day, but it has been replaced.

@brianjazek7769

5 ай бұрын

@Bubbybub0077 I shoot 600+ yards with my 243 fairly often and it does just fine, a fast twist 243 wouldn't be bad but I think if I did an arc I'd do it in an ar platform

@Bubbybub0077

5 ай бұрын

@brianjazek7769 of course! I'm not saying you can't take a 243 out there to 600 yards, we just are getting into custom Rifle territory there and unless you just really really like the 243 and have a ton of brass, they make a fast twist 243 now. It's called the 6 creedmoor. ;) I'm not gonna lie, I really have been enjoying the 6 ARC so far. I have it set up in a howa mini action but an AR is next on the list. But it's also really nice to have one cartridge, one set of dies, one set of bullets/powder, and be able to run the same factory ammo. For me, being a handloader but wanting to avoid going full custom, the 6 ARC and 6 Creedmoor make a great pair. A 6 creedmoor will keep a 103 grain eld-x at expansion velocity out to 800 yards. But personally I would load the 90 grain monolithic CX bullets for that. Use that extra power to drive the tougher but less efficient bullets. They would still hold expansion velocity out to 550 yards, but call it 500 yards because when I shoot solids I shoot for structure.

@brianjazek7769

5 ай бұрын

@Bubbybub0077 I hear ya iv thought about the arc, dasher, gt and 6x47 lapua and I'll probably do the gt out of all those for a bolt rifle and the arc in an ar myself but I can't say any are better than the other just depends on personal preference I'd say

The ONLY powders for velocity in 6mm ARC are LVR and CFE223 and maybe 2520.

Arc and creedmoor are garbage.