Of all the ones you swatched here, I would take the W&N one, which I bought when first starting out, thinking I would need it. But over the years I have come to enjoy mixing my own olive greens instead.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

I much prefer mixing my own too. Thank you for watching and commenting 🙏😊

The Winsor Newton and Lukas ones are lovely and look the most accurate to my eyes, but, as you say, the other ones are not at all what I would call a proper olive tone. Rembrandt has a nice olive green, but my favourite olive green is by Daler Rowney.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

I've not tried the Rembrandt or Daler Rowney. I would say that I'll try them in the future but I probably won't. I have far too many unused olive greens already 🤣

@MoonstoneCastle1

2 жыл бұрын

@@JayNathanWatercolor Of course, that would be rather excessive, even for lovers of olive green! :)

I make a pan every time I buy a new tube of paint so I can take them with me for easy travel and my M. Graham Olive Green is kept in the same container that I keep all my browns in. LOL, it really is a beautiful color for landscapes and very dimensional brown eyes if you can just stop thinking of it as Olive Green!

I love the White Nights one and also Schminke Olive green yellowish. From these ones I prefer Windsor and Newton and second is Lukas.

Love the Lukas olive green

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Me too 😊

I use the WN olive green. Nice, lightfast pigments. I'd say the only downside is that it's not a highly pigmented colour, so not great for mixing, as easily swamped by other colours. Olive is really a convenience colour. More fun to mix your own! 😁😁. Loving this Channel BTW

That's a seriously orange PY154 Van Gogh must have 🧐 The Mission Gold one sadly lost some of its red undertone in my lightfastness test, so it becomes less "olive-y", which is sad, because I'm a hard core fan of that acidity 😁

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

I guess that's the PR112 not being lightfast? I need to do some full light fastness tests on my paint collection in the future.

@hannahthufvesson

2 жыл бұрын

@@JayNathanWatercolor Yes, I would assume so. It wasn't visible in the first 4 months of testing but shows up clearly after 8 months. (Same with my PG8 sample, btw). I'm trying to make sure my test strips eventually will get a full year of sun (a bit tricky here in Sweden 😅), and that they are in a gradient. It's very interesting to see how some colors are strongly affected from mid to light washes! Something that has surprised me is that some colours in my test seem to perform slightly worse than in other people's tests. I wonder if that's due to batch differences or something else. We do have sun much longer in the day during summers, but our overall UV levels aren't as high as in most other places - perhaps I just need to learn more about it.

@lurklingX

Жыл бұрын

what sucks is when you get fade on supposedly LF colors.... napthol red could be expected. but sometimes you get wildcards, and it can be exhausting trying to figure out what's safe..... =___= or when colors are only testing masstone and not tints. which makes NO sense in watercolor. :(

@lurklingX

Жыл бұрын

@@hannahthufvesson what's your actual area? i've heard of the variance too and certain places do seem more brutal in the testing.

@angelicamartacahyaningtyas9083

Жыл бұрын

I think Van Gogh used PG8 instead of PG7 🧐

I have just watched so many of your videos, and they are SUPER! Truly so helpful. You will have hundreds of thousands of views. They are helpful to a wide range of skill levels. Even professional artists need to get a glimpse of what other people are doing and the materials they are using. The way you compare and commentate is excellent. For beginners or intermediate painters, it is too costly to buy all these paints to see what you like. I have made several new decisions from watching that I never would have been able to figure out on my own. Don’t stop! Your ideas are very different from everything else on You Tube. I am grateful for your time, opinion, experience, and expense.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏 That's very kind of you to say. I'm glad you find the videos helpful ☺️

So strange that the Olive Green on my Mijello dot card is actually not as yellowish as yours but very close to your Lukas Olive Green color on my screen. Wonder if they have changed the color.... and your comment at the beginning, I actually was having the same thought too before watching your review that Olive Green may be a nice mixing color for all the other greens that look too unnatural 😄

Van Gogh and Lukas as Olive Green are pretty awesome. The others are useable.

The only Olive Green I have is Kuretake (No. 54 - I don't have the pigment info.) It's a little bit opaque, but the colour is good for background foliage and trees. The Van Gogh Azomethine Yellow Green works well as an Olive Green. Your assessment of the more greeny and brown Olive Greens is spot on in my opinion. My favourite would be the Winsor and Newton. Your favourite seems a bit too green for me. Mind you olives come in various shades of green and other colours too!

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

You might be right about the Lukas being a little too green but I like it nonetheless. 😊

Lukas and W/N are really nice for Olive Green..Those are my favorite. Thanks! I just ordered the W/N one. Waiting for it in the mail.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome ☺️ I hope you enjoy the W&N

Van Gogh Dusk Yellow (#230-G) is a granulating paint that is beautifully olive in nature. Pigment is PBk11 & PY128, Lightfastness: II. It's a stunning colour that is a better option than their Olive Green (#620). Really enjoy your swatch videos.

Still binge watching your videos. I like the Lukas 1862 the best but still prefer to mix my own greens. Don't use PG36 or PO36. When painting I use the color combo I'm working with to mix my greens.

Definitely prefer the bottom row cause the last 3 on top just look like permanent green and MGraham looks like new baby diaper color. I think depending on the sunlight the bottom 3 would be great . I have never bought an olive but use the py150 in my mix for sure. Thank you again. I have painted olive leaves once and one side hits the light and looks silvery. It would be a lovely project again to try to capture that. It is beautiful with the way the twisted trees grow.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome 😊

I don't have many greens, and no olives in my pallet. I tend to mix my own greens. Out of the ones you have swatched, I like the Lucas one. Lucas is a good brand and if I were in the market for an olive, I would definitely consider that one. Tfs.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

I prefer to mix my own too ☺️

Holbein Olive green ( PY150 PG7 PBR25) is similar to W&N ( if my screen monitor is correct) - It is the only olive green I have. It is also Transparent.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure the Holbein one is great. I've liked all the Holbein paints I've tried so far. ☺️

For me hands down the Lukas. In my mind that is what olive green looks like.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

I agree ☺️

Your series helps so much, to see some differents between brands. 🤗 And also your rembradts help so much, as its hard to find decend swatches, as the are so underradet

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I'm glad they were helpful 😊

I love that Lukas olive green! Great video, thanks for sharing💙

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. I like it too 🙂

I really like the Lukas olive green and the Winsor & Newton is nice too. Thanks for the comparisons.🤗

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

I think they're my favourites here too 😊

I always liked the Lukas Olive Green but keep forgetting that I have it. The W&N version is on my wish list, so it was great to see them next to each other. Thanks!

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome ☺️

Olive Green from Sennelier is my absolute favorite. It's not that olive really and looks just like Serpentite genuine from Daniel Smith but without reddish granulation.

hmm.. these actually remind me of PY129. that's interesting. i wonder why i like PY129 but not really olive green. hmm, hmm.... thanks for the comparison!

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome ☺️ Yes some of them definitely have a PY129 look about them.

I like mijello olive green, i think its my fav. But it's my 1st time seeing the lukas one, it's interesting color. And I recommend you to try sennelier olive green...it's also lovely

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the recommendation 🙏

I actually haven’t got any olive green. I think I like the Windsor and Newton one.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

I like it too but still prefer to mix my own ☺️

I love W&N version but it's quite difficult to use. When I glaze on the first coat, it's easily removed. I don't have many experience so my skill is not good yet. So I don't know exactly if it's my own problem or general things with this color. I found, the 2 pigments are separated so fast and this makes very beautiful effect but so difficult to use. Do you have any advice for me? Anyway, thank you for this video.

I have the W&N but rarely use it. I like the Van Gogh but I have serious doubt about the pigments they disclose. I just looked at a chart and all of their greens are PG7 and PY154 or vice-versa.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

It's very strange from Van Gogh isn't it? 🤔

Olive green is the other most eclectic convenience green since Sap green. I say the Mjello and Roman Szmal ones are nice for a golden hour type landscape.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I think you could be right about that 🙏

so much variety here as well, but I kinda expected that. I have White Nights olive green from a set but I don't use it. I recently got the same Roman Szmal paint but haven't tried it much. Mijello Olive Green looks really nice, I imagine it would look good mixed with a bit more pbr25. I'm curious if the Rembrandt version of Olive Green looks similar to the Van Gogh.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

I've never tried the Rembrandt olive green but it's made from different pigments so I assume it would look a bit different.

I have the Schmincke olive green and I love it very much, but it’s definitely more of a forest or hookers green shade. The only true olive green I have is Holbein and I love it! I think it’s most similar to the Roman szmal from looking at these, maybe also like the mijello. I do like the m Graham but it’s more of a greenish umber.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

I like the Schmincke too. It's a beautiful green but as you say it's more of a forest green. I don't think I could ever like the M.Graham 🤣

Schminke has never seen an olive before 😂

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Haha! 🤣

@beaast4249

2 жыл бұрын

That‘s because we don’t have olives growing here in Germany 🤭

I think of all of those I prefer the Lukas. The other ones are either too yellow or primary green.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. Thanks for watching and commenting 🙏

I have the Lukas Olive Green on my palette for now. Schmincke do their own weird thing with Olive Green and they don't all look like what most people think of Olive Green. I think I can mix something similar to the Winsor & Newton one.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

The Lukas is very nice. I'm going to have to start trying to use them all up soon.

@Christine_R

2 жыл бұрын

@@JayNathanWatercolor I think you have to find a reason to paint only with the different Olive Green that you have.. Maybe you like the very yellow and brown olive greens when they are diluted with a lot of water. It's quite similar with Green Gold because the mass tone don't look nice at all but it shines when it's diluted with quite a lot of water. With some pigments or multi-pigment colors you have to be careful. They can look weird in the mass tone.

I think the lukas is the first lukas paint I prefer. I have had horrible luck with lukas paint, so chalky it wipes off the paper.

I worry about what the Schmincke folks are eating. Is their food radioactive? The Lukas is a nice surprise - a great color and not overly opaque.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Haha 🤣 Yes the Lukas isn't as opaque as some of their paints.

I feel like M. Graham didn’t get the memo which olives they were supposed to match 😂 Schmincke is a bit ridiculous. My top favourites are W&N and Roman Szmal. I love how subdued the first one is, it seems more versatile, while Szmal’s is vibrant and happy. Thanks for the video!

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome 🙏

based on what i can see from the screen (might be diff in person), i like the mission gold, winsor & newton, and roman szmal. : ) honestly, schmincke, what are you thinking?? they managed every color BUT olive. : /

considering, that there are so many shades of olive green out in nature - esp. depending on the stages of ripe and the shades, when preserved ...:-) I must say, considerin how easy peasy it is to mix olive green - much easier to recreate from the basic colours on the pallette then pulling out the tubes of the extras and looking them up....

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I much prefer to mix my own ☺️

The Lukas by a long way…. I do like a couple of DS colours that are similar to olive green, Green apatite genuine and serpentine genuine, but have no idea how they would compare on a test like this. I am baffled by the Schmincke versions, I can only think it’s part of their uniform description for schools or military or something and has no reference at all to the fruit! I like botanical and animal subjects as well as landscape and all of these green would have their uses. I do like that browny coloured mix but doubt I would use it for anything normally classed as green but would use it for other things, tree trunks maybe! This review tells me what I shall not be looking for next time I want to paint a reptile. I think Lukas are quite an underated brand, people say they are chalky, but I like the way they paint out….

“I haven’t really used any Olive Greens since I first started watercolor painting” says the man who is swatching out his 8 different versions 😂. I like the three on the bottom row. The only Olive Green I have is Sennelier Olive Green, it is my favorite convenience green, even better than sap green. Its made from PY150, PG36, and PBr23. I like PG36 better than PG7 as a base for greens, although I may give that PG7 PO36 mix a try, that looks very nice.

@starr-starr

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm. Just tried PO36 with PG7 and PG36. Very nice! I would never have put those together probably, unless I did a mixing chart.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Haha! 8 versions that never get used. You're the second person to recommend the Sennelier. Maybe I'll have to extend my collection to 9? 🤣

I have the Lukas olive green, mine does not look like your swatch. It’s kind of milky

I had to laugh at the Schmincke olive greens. I think they are mixing their fruits. That M Graham is very brown. i actually have the WN and I like it, but I don't use it much. That Lukas is a really pretty color.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Haha! The Schmincke greens are really nice though 😂

That Van Gogh olive green is rather peculiar. I know that Royal Talens updated their paints in the past few years; maybe the paint you have is an old formulation?

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

It says on the Van Gogh website that it's PG7 and PY154 and I checked other peoples van Gogh videos over the last couple of years and they all say the same pigments. It's weird 🤣

@awatercolourist

2 жыл бұрын

@@JayNathanWatercolor Very weird!

@awatercolourist

2 жыл бұрын

@@JayNathanWatercolor Yes, I checked One of Mandy van Gojie’s videos and the olive green is like yours. Interestingly, Van Gogh has 3 paints made with that combination of pigments and they all look different.

I guess schmincke thought about the plant itself

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Haha! Olive plant green? 🤣

Lukas.

@JayNathanWatercolor

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! 😊

schmincke.. what happened?? lol