No One Has Heard Of Evolution | Talk Heathen 06.47
Talk Heathen 06.47 for November 20, 2022 with ObjectivelyDan and Forrest Valkai LIVE at the Freethought Library
David from CA wants to give the hosts a chance to prove evolution since no one has ever heard of it in history.
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Maybe the most-scientically-illiterate caller that I have ever heard. And he is so proud as well.
@arthurhunt642
Жыл бұрын
People like David need to be in school, not church!
@Longtack55
Жыл бұрын
Well he did disprove the Big Bang theory - well he said he could.....
@freddan6fly
Жыл бұрын
He is a repeat caller. Ook Eek the librarian have links to all five calls. They are all as stupid. Then he shows up in the comment section even more smug and stupid.
@Miroslava_Ivanova
Жыл бұрын
He's so wrong he can't even explain how wrong he is from his smugness, his little arrogant laugh pissed me off so much.
@marcelamarques6774
Жыл бұрын
@@freddan6fly does he use the same name?
Remember: David can breed and his vote counts just as much as yours does.
@blakemon1703
Жыл бұрын
I can’t get over how stupid David is
@nitram9823
Жыл бұрын
Sad truth😢
@chris.eskimo
Жыл бұрын
Scary shit !!
@tempestive1
Жыл бұрын
These moments make me think about epistemocracy.
@user-vt3vo1yd3v
Жыл бұрын
If he’s from california like he says, his vote most certainly doesn’t count as much as anyone in a swing state. California will always go democratic, doesn’t matter what David’s personal vote is for.
The fact, that jelly fish survived without a brain 500 millions years, give me hope for human race.
@richardpratt3091
7 ай бұрын
But not for the caller.
@arturincdh4095
7 ай бұрын
Its people like him that take me back to thw time where eugenics was a thing
@kingspeechless1607
7 ай бұрын
And I bet everything I have, that they will go on and outlast us by many millions.
@Mouth-of-Spaghetti
7 ай бұрын
Washington DC must be run by Jellyfish
@robertdawson2743
6 ай бұрын
Jellyfish don't swim around judging others
"Do you believe in history?" "Things have happened, yes" 😂
@micahbinns2740
7 ай бұрын
The question was so laughable, its amazing an adult came up with this.
@GinoTopGun
7 ай бұрын
lol after that question you know it’s going to go down hill from there 😂
@StevenWolfe-lx8js
7 ай бұрын
Do you believe in math ? Uhh sorta
@user-dk8lo6fw3u
4 ай бұрын
That sums up the caller's baseline understanding on just about any topic (under heaven (LOL)).
David has been spared the ravages of intelligence.
@jixxxerrr
Жыл бұрын
And yet he still believes he is. LOL
@SeekerGoOn2013
Жыл бұрын
That is one of the best observations I have EVER read! A gem 💎
@FactStorm
Жыл бұрын
LOL
@tzenophile
Жыл бұрын
Some of these people border on what is unethical to put on air
@karenandrews8695
Жыл бұрын
I don't know if David is a Christian, but I do know if he is, God doesn't base going to heaven on how smart you are or if you are super intelligent. For God so loves the 🌎
“I don’t know as much about cosmology as a cosmologist or an astrophysicist but I can still refute the Big Bang” might be my favorite Quote of all time
@christopherhamilton3621
Жыл бұрын
Ah kin argue jus’ laaik muh pastor: hold mah beer, cuz! 😂
@BruceCarroll
Жыл бұрын
Not too different from me. I can't refute intelligent design, but I can make a pretty good case against sober design.
@jmhaces
Жыл бұрын
I'm going to start using this snippet of the video to illustrate the Dunning-Kruger Effect to my students.
@afriendofafriend5766
Жыл бұрын
I mean I'm not a theologist but I can refute the bible so...
@skarpheinnsmundsson9741
Жыл бұрын
And he didn't wanna say he knew more then Forrest about biology and then went on to tell him how it was all wrong and he knew better then everyone.
Forrest: "We're fucking things up for other species." David: "So you admit the world is made for us!" What the hell...
@user-dk8lo6fw3u
4 ай бұрын
Proof that the 'first tool' is David (Apologies to rocks).
@JoeyP946
29 күн бұрын
sounds like any internet discussion I ever had
@aahhhhhhhhhhhhh
23 күн бұрын
Humans genuinely are the worst invasive species lmao
His little chuckes every time he was asked a question made my blood boil
@ConstantCreator2000
10 ай бұрын
Me too. Fckn dummy is incapable of an intelligent thought. It’s like talking to a dog.
@BirdOutOfCage
7 ай бұрын
Same 😅
@Ben.Royals
6 ай бұрын
See it as confirmation of his lack of understanding
@halloweenjean
5 ай бұрын
ITS SO GROSS TOO.
@ragg232
5 ай бұрын
Honestly it just says to me that he *thinks* he knows more than he does and isn’t willing to entertain conflicting views.
What happens when unstoppable logic meets an immovable delusion? David turns into a child.
@uncleanunicorn4571
Жыл бұрын
yeah but, what if I laugh at you when my own ignorance is exposed? What then Peaody? What then?
@WhoThisMonkey
Жыл бұрын
@@uncleanunicorn4571 Then you are sat in the corner laughing to yourself and having zero effect on anyone here.
@FourDeuce01
Жыл бұрын
David has always been a child.🤤
@slimjim227
Жыл бұрын
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. Corinthians 13:12 Trouble is, David doesn’t think he has any childish things to put away. When a child refuses to grow up it turns into a fool.
@freddan6fly
Жыл бұрын
Not child, toddler. David turns into a smug toddler.
How someone can be so proud and arrogant about knowing so little is truly astounding.
@sir1769
Жыл бұрын
It's called the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
@--GOAT
Жыл бұрын
Those who know the least are the most proud of their ignorance, while those who are knowledgeble are humbled by the the the known and unknown.
@MrCountrycuz
Жыл бұрын
This ignorant have the most pride of all because they have no fucking clue how little they know.
@brianmi40
Жыл бұрын
Dunning-Kruger is an EPIDEMIC almost as big and widespread as Covid.
@TreVader1378
Жыл бұрын
Because stupid idiots are often proud of their insanity.
"Believing in evolution is like believing in Santa Claus". Says a man who believes in talking snakes
@Writesparky
2 ай бұрын
and talking donkeys......
This is one of many reasons why Christianity is a blight on everyone.
@richardpratt3091
7 ай бұрын
Well, some Christians actually accept evolution. The Catholic Church does. It doesn't excuse their purposeful ignorance of other things though.
@atma86
7 ай бұрын
@@richardpratt3091I’m glad the Catholic Church accepts evolution but I wish they’d stop raping all those children
@BaronVonQuiply
4 ай бұрын
Family Guy long ago wore out its welcome, but that one cutaway where hot-meg walks down the street in the advanced atheist society that was never held back by religion...
@MrTheclevercat
2 ай бұрын
@@richardpratt3091 The same people who believe in transmutation of flesh. Yeah...
@kwyjibo33
Ай бұрын
Not just christianity, but religion in general.
I love how his cocky, self-assured chuckle slowly turns into panicked laughter when he realizes (at least subconsciously) how woefully unprepared he is
@clit_niblr0375
Жыл бұрын
I'm not convinced David ever came to that realization.
@phxsunfan
10 ай бұрын
@@clit_niblr0375 Agreed. David is not self aware.
@tristanmisja
10 ай бұрын
@@phxsunfan You know that joke people make about only having two neurons? He's a literal example of that
@thetruefirelord2248
9 ай бұрын
HE doesn't believe in neurons so they must not exist, because he lives in his own world what he says must be true
@timothywilliams4089
7 ай бұрын
@@tristanmisja Or,...two brain cells, one says shitm,....the other says eat...
It's so cute how Forrest talks to these callers like they're actually listening
@ulodetero
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, even if they're not, the audience is. So I think that's mainly why. 👍
@kamion53
Жыл бұрын
and with a big smile on his face too. Forrest teaches in classes, don't he? So he is most likely with stubborn ignorance or clever clogs.
@christianblevins3802
Жыл бұрын
What?
@christianblevins3802
Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand what you are saying.
@Jsingle911
Жыл бұрын
@@christianblevins3802 Obviously he is most likely with stubborn ignorance or clever clogs... What don't you understand about this fundamental truth?
He giggles like a child while he spews forth his ignorance.
@Mewse1203
7 ай бұрын
His Giggles to show how ignorant he is. They asked him a question he laughs and then tries to speak, because he doesn't know how to answer the questions even though he supposedly knows it all.
This caller is the perfect example of what faith truly is. Faith, in the religious sense, is believing without reason or evidence. If people like this had reasons and/or evidence, they’d present that.
@Chris-hx3om
7 ай бұрын
It's worse than that. Religion is not only accepting without evidence, it's willfully dismissing any evidence.
@andrewjenkins9965
6 ай бұрын
It could also be an example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. He has just enough information to think he knows what he's talking about, but not enough information to realize he doesn't, in fact, know what he's talking about.
@Mehki227
5 ай бұрын
All of the above
David is an example of why we need a good strong public education system and no private edumakaytion.
@ilmt
Жыл бұрын
We don't need no education!
@Valkyrie77
Жыл бұрын
@@ilmt - Another Brick In The Wall (Pink Floyd)
@bunnykiller
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if David is the results of Home education....
@liamspruyt
Жыл бұрын
congratziolations on your cowrect asner!
@allwinds3786
Жыл бұрын
@@bunnykiller I'm not sure but at least some of his education was in Argentina, I believe English is a second language for him.
A wise man said " If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religion".
@PanglossDr
Жыл бұрын
Really? What a stupid statement.
@williamstrumfels3305
Жыл бұрын
YES
@rakitakhan
Жыл бұрын
@@PanglossDr I rest my case.
@user-vt3vo1yd3v
Жыл бұрын
@@PanglossDrYou just proved the statement.
@spider-man9118
Жыл бұрын
really? because science proves biblical events, my fellow youtube user Also, religion (Christianity) is just a relationship with God along with loving others (as seen in James 1:27)
I used to work seasonally at a Christian summer camp when I was in college and I met a lot of great friends but never told them I was an atheist. One day I asked one buddy about dinosaurs for whatever reason and with a straight and serious face he said, "the dinosaurs are never mentioned in the bible, they weren't real" and that really opened my eyes how ignorant and detached from reality the theist is.
@jackwhitbread4583
5 ай бұрын
Still not as insane as the theists who claim dinosaurs were on Noah's Ark 😂😂😂😂. How do you get dinosaurs on an ark when no hominid species ever existed with dinosaurs?
@asherloat8570
5 ай бұрын
@@jackwhitbread4583 They were just babies on the ark so they could fit better, and the Bible describes a sauropod when it says "moves its tail like a cedar". That's what the creationist will tell you
@Mehki227
5 ай бұрын
I heard one say the bones were planted by the devil to test her faith.🤔🙄🤔😳🤔😩
@asherloat8570
5 ай бұрын
@@Mehki227 They will make up any old nonsense to make their beliefs unfalsifiable. Using the same logic you could literally argue for anything, no matter how absurd
@BaronVonQuiply
4 ай бұрын
_"The bible doesn't mention dinosaurs, those were dragons"_ Due to Poe's Law, I have to clarify that the above is a real creationist claim.
I sometimes wonder about my own intelligence and then somebody like David comes along and I realise I'm not that dumb
@asherloat8570
5 ай бұрын
Based on the Dunning-Kruger effect the fact you questioned your intelligence means there's a good chance you are reasonably intelligent. It's also the reason David thinks he's so smart
_"I know what 'radioaction' [sic] . . . mumble mumble [tails off] "_ The stupidity, it burns, it burns.
@fomori2
Жыл бұрын
That is so true. David wasnt just willfully ignorant, he was actually stupid.
@arthurhunt642
Жыл бұрын
David's ignorance burns 🔥 my ass too. Put him in a corner and his defense is to laugh and change the topic. Doesn't work here.
@margaretbarrett6087
Жыл бұрын
The reason he denies evolution is because it hasn’t happened to him yet.
@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT
Жыл бұрын
@@margaretbarrett6087 Evolution has happened to David. It's just that he lacks the self awareness to recognize it. Notice at 0:39, where he admits to avoiding crowds because of natural selection's effects on a common virus.
"can you please define evolution?" *aaaaaannd we lost David*
@BoogieBoogsForever
Жыл бұрын
True. He didn't want any part of actually knowing something.
@arthurhunt642
Жыл бұрын
"Can you define Radiometric Dating"? Now David has both feet stuck in the mud, and the tide is coming in!
@vermilion6966
Жыл бұрын
lost david and all braincells in the process while listening to him...
@edejong
Жыл бұрын
Yes that was disappointing. I was on the edge of my seat.
David is a perfect poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect.
@jasmijnariel
6 ай бұрын
More like a brainwashed kid
I love the way Forrest makes every answer a training exercise. He is truly a teacher at heart.
"No recorded history of Adam either."😂😂😂 Ya gotta love Forrest.
@BoogieBoogsForever
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was swift. 😃👍
@timsmith530
Жыл бұрын
The History is recorded in the Bible . I guess you can't read?
@ImadeGodmybitch
Жыл бұрын
@@timsmith530 I highly doubt a collection of Bronze Age myths and folklore constitutes as historical documentation. There's a reason the Bible isn't used as a textbook in History classes.
@aparz617
Жыл бұрын
@@timsmith530 do you think history is recorded in comic books, too?
@stonemaze9925
Жыл бұрын
@@timsmith530 Idiot
David is offensively ignorant.
@revwillyg6450
Жыл бұрын
And he votes. Scary
@johnd.shultz7423
Жыл бұрын
He's also ignorantly offensive...
@PaulBrown-uj5le
Жыл бұрын
Fuck I hate religion.
@TheSavvyDevil
Жыл бұрын
He’s a smug idiot.
@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307
Жыл бұрын
@@revwillyg6450 If they banned all god pretenders from voting! USA would be a much better place!
This is like having a conversation with a real life Forrest Gump
@tanaka173
Жыл бұрын
Forrest Gump is smart enough to admit he doesn't know something.
@maxrichards3881
10 ай бұрын
@@tanaka173 Yeah, David makes Forrest Gump look like a genius.
@charleswhite9242
4 ай бұрын
Forrest Gump has a good heart. This knobhead does not
It’s a real reminder that guys like David still exist, clearly a nice guy, with a stunning level of ignorance, and that is bliss. Just don’t sell him a gun license!
@petergaskin1811
7 ай бұрын
Or let him operate heavy machinery.
@SnakeMan448
7 ай бұрын
Not nice. Fairly polite, but doesn't listen, laughs condescendingly, puts words in their mouths and is arrogantly proud of being ignorant.
@user-dk8lo6fw3u
4 ай бұрын
I don't need no license! Gun licenses aren't in the Bible...oh, wait (thought David, never).
@aahhhhhhhhhhhhh
23 күн бұрын
hehehehe heh...🤫 You are just proving my point. 🤗 heuh heuh 🤪 Its all science fiction. HAH hah haha.
The little laughs are so fucking infuriating. The nerve of this guy. I do not know how the hosts stay so calm.
@thenaturalmidsouth9536
Жыл бұрын
Those laughs are a tell. When he's got nothing to respond with, he laughs. They're a sign he's lost.
@HTGY6YTH67Y
Жыл бұрын
It's a nervous tick laugh
@jimdietrick1681
Жыл бұрын
Because he's a Dunning-Kruger poster child and they pity his absolute lack of intellectual substance. It's equivalent to getting mad at a two year old for calling you a "poo poo head".
@Julian0101
Жыл бұрын
It sounds like the giggle WLC used to do when people pointed out his 'intuitive claims' are not obvious and he still has to finish his homework.
@johnd.shultz7423
Жыл бұрын
brain addled hyena boy....
This guy is a perfect example of the saying that a little knowledge (combined with decades of indoctrination) is a dangerous thing.
@karagi101
Жыл бұрын
I saw no trace of knowledge.
@lucianofrancesco4742
Жыл бұрын
He had negative knowledge
@gowdsake7103
Жыл бұрын
What knowledge does he even have ?
@petyrkowalski9887
Жыл бұрын
I think he is a troll
@mrcurly1147
Жыл бұрын
He just doesn't want to give up his magical sky binky. It provides him comfort when he needs to curl up in the fetal position and pretend an invisible god will take care of him. We should be the ones laughing - if it weren't so sadly pathetic.
"Can you maybe start by defining what you think Evolution is?" .... crickets ..... Exactly.
The villainous laughter from the caller is so perfect 😂
@peterkotara
Жыл бұрын
The laughter is a defence mechanism.
@trudoviks9075
Жыл бұрын
@@peterkotara Freshman year of high school, I joined the debate club. Not only was I garbage at it, but I signed up to join the stupidest sides of each debate. When I got debunked, I would give a pompous chuckle to hide my failure and nerve. Senior year, I'm in the same debate club. I've improved much at debate (as is the purpose of debate club) and never did anything embarrassing like that. However, I had Nostalgia witnessing those freshman signing on to the stupidest topics and laughing JUST like I did to mask their failure. I graduated from high school a couple years ago, and coming across this video and listening to this moron do the EXACT same freshman failure chuckle was surreal. It was like a glance to the past.
@CronoXpono
11 ай бұрын
@@peterkotarait really is. It’s a nervous tick of being told to actually justify their position(s) without just chucking it in the ocean with “it’s science fiction” bullshit. 🤦♂️ People are so dishonest.
There are millions upon millions of people like David among us. Be afraid, be very afraid.
@bharathdeva9407
Жыл бұрын
🤣😂
@AnexoRialto
Жыл бұрын
And they vote.
@miaomiaochan
Жыл бұрын
They vote. 😱
@bradweir
Жыл бұрын
They breed.
@colindickson8034
Жыл бұрын
And they are spread worldwide
David is so lucky to be able to go through life entirely unencumbered by knowledge or doubt.
@matterasmachine
Жыл бұрын
just as you. Do you doubt evolution?
@kingspeechless1607
Жыл бұрын
@@matterasmachine No I don't doubt; there is no doubt that evolution is a fact.
@matterasmachine
Жыл бұрын
@@kingspeechless1607 So you are the blind believer. Why do you expect others to be different from you? Are you special? The Chosen? Did you create evolution yourself or just blindly believed it? Guys, sorry, but you are so dumb. What if evolution IS creation?
@kingspeechless1607
Жыл бұрын
@@matterasmachine You are just trying to attack me; that is not the way to debate. Pick the bones out of my response; you cannot deny that things evolve; it is an observable fact (as your comments appear to accept), just as 'gravity' is an observable fact (unless you are a flat earther). The point is that we have scientific theories (which are the highest order of evidence in science) to explain how gravity works and as I said before we have a Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection. That is what you need to attack to see if you can refute it; that is how science works! Even if you were able to refute the theory it would not automatically mean your alternative was the 'how,' you still have to provide evidence and demonstrate it can stand up to attempts to prove it wrong. Just saying "What if evolution IS creation?" is neither here nor there; if you want to make the claim then you have a lot of work to do; I have seen so-called 'scientific evidence' put forward by 'creationist scientists' for elements of creationism and they are not fooling anybody so far; they really need to up their game!
@matterasmachine
Жыл бұрын
@@kingspeechless1607 debates are when parties have equal rights. It’s not debate when you have privileges. I’m not attacking anybody. If you don’t doubt - you are blind believer. That’s it. Things don’t evolve, they are being created. Eye can not evolve when eye does not exist yet. It has to be created first. Debates are actually useless. I have a model of god and it gives predictions that can be checked.
He proved to me that magic is real. He has a god tier protective force field around his brain protecting himself from understanding that he's wrong.
David : "The best evidence I have to disprove evolution is my ignorance about it."
I love how these people praise themselves for their humility, all while telling biologists, cosmologists, chemists, astronomers, etc., are wrong.
@frankvee
Жыл бұрын
Ignorance is bliss. 😂
@Mmmmilo
Жыл бұрын
@@frankvee honestly, I don’t expect it to feel very blissful if you truly believe every smart person is lying to you about reality.
@frankvee
Жыл бұрын
@@Mmmmilo I don't think theists consider those people to be very smart, or they see them as just wrong about this particular topic, or that they've been deceived. Many are pretty arrogant about it, feeling as if they know the truth and you just don't get it.
@shaneconradcraayenstein1088
Жыл бұрын
David is the perfect product of society ..a star student of indoctrination and brainwashing... I bet if u told him the truth about the annunaki and spoon fed him science ...he still wudnt change his view... He suffers cognitive dissonances.. He is to scared to denie god....he is nuttin more than a fool and nutting less than meat
If you can disprove evolution, turn in your paperwork and collect your Nobel Prize.
@halo7982
Күн бұрын
Eeeeexactly!! One a these nutters would at the very least be famous af if they could SHOW the truthfulness of their claim that the theory of evolution by natural selection is “false”
A caller like this is fantastic for them; allows them to talk very simply; they aren't going to convince him because he's decided what he believes, but perhaps another listener (a child?) will begin to think. Must be difficult growing up in an environment where none of the adults are interested in the truth
David reminds me of a George Eliot quote: "When imbecility ceases to be meek, it becomes simply odious."
Forrest: Gives a detailed, thorough explanation that completely refutes David's point. David: "You're just making my point." Forrest: "What did I say that you think confirmed your point?" David: "I...you...well...PH levels"
@c0nv3rg3
Жыл бұрын
😂
@Boris99999
Жыл бұрын
Hey! He recognized the word - that counts as an achievement and complete confirmation of his point, right?
@Ascend777
Жыл бұрын
He's not original at all. He's regurgitating all those lame tactics we all heard before. He acts like it's clever. 😂😂
@douglasthomashayden2566
Жыл бұрын
All they have are half-remembered talking points and failed 'gotchas'.
@michelmurphy7152
Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my ex-husband.
"I don't know what evolution actually is, or what radiometric dating involves but I just know it is false because it contradicts what I believe to be true based on a book".
I love how Forrest manages to remain sweet and wholesome despite how absurdly idiotic (AND RUDE) the callers sometimes are.
David did an outstanding job of showing that he is completely ignorant of everything he is trying to argue about.
@vinnyganzano1930
Жыл бұрын
And is completely unwilling to listen to reason.
@steveg1961
Жыл бұрын
The best argument against creationist thinking is creationists themselves when they open their mouths. They cannot help themselves from exposing their ignorance and illogical rhetoric.
David called to make someone look foolish - mission accomplished
@peterrobinson2306
Жыл бұрын
I was reading through the comments whilst trying to think of something smart and funny to say and I read yours. The irony here is it's taking me waaaay longer to congratulate you on the best comment I read then your comment ever did. Thank you for being funny and concise. That looks like British sarcasm to me and I love it. Well done.
My wife is a marine biologist and she would be happy with the way you explained Evolution to this man. It's like he never even learned evolution in school
The patience of these guys amazes me
Anyone else notice the callers constant smug little laugh like the hosts were so dumb, deluded, and beneath him? Every time the hosts brought out a bombshell, he'd laugh and deflect and switch to a different topic, eventually breaking down into anger when the hosts refused to play his little game or concede his "facts".
@arthurhunt642
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely my take on it also.
@jd190d
Жыл бұрын
This is a talking strategy that is actually written and handed out among white supremacists, right wing pundits and conservative christian groups. Keep making statements, when the other side starts to refute your statements change to a related (sometimes very tangentially related) topic and make another statement. To the casual observer it will seem like they are winning because the person is always on the attack and the other side makes a partial defense then switches to make another partial defense against another statement. It works with casual observers because they tend to agree with the person who seems the most confident. In places like a court it fails spectacularly because the person has to validate their assertions but they only really worry about winning in the court of public opinion.
@DianavanderPluijm
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, initially I didn't really see where the laugh came from (I listened to the vid), but as soon as I looked at the screen and heard that laugh I realized it was coming from David-the-dumbass. Sooooo condescending, and to be honest I would have ended the call there. You wanna call in and show how stupid you are? Sure, go right ahead. But don't act like you're all high-and-mighty with a laugh like that when you're not even capable of holding an honest discussion.
@Speednote10
Жыл бұрын
Like when he said "that's like believing in Santa Claus", not realizing he just broke the world record for irony.
@twowardrobeswardrobes1536
Жыл бұрын
Or he’s a troll, pleased with how well he’s playing the role.
If an aneurysm was a person it would be David. Forrest & Dan are by far the most patient hosts ever.
@revwillyg6450
Жыл бұрын
Matt would have cussed David out way before! They have soooo much patience for fools
@FactStorm
Жыл бұрын
LOL
@bobthebox2993
Жыл бұрын
I really love Forrest, he has a knack for teaching, so he goes out of his way to listen to what the other side has to say and tries to work his way forward from there.
@bleb207
Жыл бұрын
King David vs Private Gump and LT Dan. Kudos to their patience! 😅
A perfect example of Dunning-Kruger effect
Caller: well, you can prove anything with facts, can't you?
David turns up to a battle of knowledge unarmed
@jacksimpson-rogers1069
Жыл бұрын
Unlike a previous David, who quite possibly isn't mythical, who was armed with one of the deadliest missile weapons known in the days of Goliath. If the story is true, as it easily might be, Goliath hadn't a chance. A sling is NOT what the USA calls a slingshot. it is a loop of fabric in which the slinger gives a very high speed to a stone, and releases it at the instant that it will hurtle and hit the target.
@halo7982
Күн бұрын
@@jacksimpson-rogers1069what’s the point tho? A dude may have killed a way bigger dude w a sling, sure and that story may be based on a real character.. ummm ok? Sure.. why not.. Now if you ask me if there’s any evidence of divine intervention? Nope not at all..
I'm sure that David and his family sit around talking about whether or not species change around them. "Dad, did the deer look any different to you today?" "No son, they don't."
@donbacker9883
Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I pictured, as well!
@timothybrown5999
Жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder if any of them have ever had a dog as a pet. Evolution has happened in front of our eyes, wolves are now labradors, sheepdogs and bulldogs. Each with their own distinct characteristics after just a few generations of selective breeding.
@loki2240
Жыл бұрын
@@timothybrown5999 - People like David typically don't consider that to be evolution. They want to see a fish turn into a 47 year old accountant.
@justadude7752
Жыл бұрын
@@loki2240 to be fair, some of them do seem to be a little... fishy at times...yeah
@timothybrown5999
Жыл бұрын
@@loki2240 😂😂
Reminds me of the quote: “The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.”
Forrest looks *SO EXCITED* for the next caller. It’s adorable. ☺️ Edit: Oh boi. His expression changed quickly. This caller is PAINFUL.
@tristanmisja
10 ай бұрын
Forrest is usually a really upbeat and jolly guy. It takes an immensely arrogant and stupid person to ruin his mood like that.
@lexigrimhaive
10 ай бұрын
@@tristanmisja 100% agree.
David just laughs every time he's faced with the fact he's unable to learn. This is how he copes. Poor dumb dumb.
Him: I don’t believe in modern science His TVs, his phone his car: *all cease to exist*
@kathryngeeslin9509
Жыл бұрын
I wish.
@MrCanis4
Жыл бұрын
What would he do if he got seriously ill or injured. Does he want to go to a church or a hospital? A hospital is 'Science'.
@rayxav
Жыл бұрын
@@MrCanis4 that’s what all of these “true” believers should be doing. Not a single Jew, Christian, Muslim or any of them should ever go to a medical doctor. They should all be seeking out at least one friend and a priest and should be able to pray away any ailment. They should be able to pray for long distance communication instead of needing a cell phone. I can go on and on
@bradweir
Жыл бұрын
This dick walks into a dark room, flicks on the light and thinks jesus did it.Mythled git.
The Dunning-Kruger is strong in this person. Doesn’t have a clue what evolution is or radiometric dating but asserts with 100% CERTAINTY that they don’t exist.
And to think that people like David are sometimes our neighbors. Wow!
Forrest/Dan: No system is perfect. David: Systems are perfect. Forrest/Dan: No, no system is perfect. Dan: You said that systems are perfect. There's no arguing with people like David. They don't listen.
@loki2240
Жыл бұрын
I don't think he's well.
@mathiasrryba
Жыл бұрын
Weirdest is that I believe he wanted to argue about the "assumption" of radiometric dating being constant and not having changed in the past (guess it could be said it's "perfect" in this sense), possibly wanting to point out the likelihoods of non-conformities and corrupted sampling but his brain short-circuited at that moment.
@miskatonic_alumni
Жыл бұрын
They don't listen, they don't think, and they refuse to do any actual research of their own. Creationists are philosophical zombies.
It never ceases to amaze the unshakeable confidence that abject ignorance can provide.
@digbycrankshaft7572
Жыл бұрын
Intelligent people constantly doubt themselves because they are self-aware and know that the scientific method is always open to revision and amendment whereas dumbass apologists say my "book" is always right and always will be.
@CteCrassus
Жыл бұрын
@@digbycrankshaft7572 That's one of the biggest problems in the world: The wise are full of doubts and the fools are full of confidence.
I love the long pause as he frantically tries to google what radiometric dating is.
I was almost bracing myself for "WELL IF DOUGS CAME FROM WOOFS THEN WHY IS THERE STILL WOOFS?" 😂😂
@Weirdaman
Ай бұрын
Really? How subwoofers evolved from woofers? Check mate, atheist.
One of the greatest ironies is arrogance based on ignorance. This guy is a great example.
@johnsperry9494
10 ай бұрын
Arrogance based on ignorance is Ken Hamm.
@mjfullente3359
8 ай бұрын
@@johnsperry9494Exactly, he's a shameless con man who has been using logical fallacies to lure people into his bubble.
@justincredible.
7 ай бұрын
textbook Dunning and Kruger effect
“Then why are there still monkeys?!?” Boom. No one ever thought of that, did they? 😂😂😂
I REFUSE to believe this dude isn't a prank caller 😭 the smugnorance is too much to be real and my faith in humanity can't take it
"Against a stupidity that is in fashion, no wisdom compensates. Talk sense to a fool, and he calls you foolish. Truth will always be truth regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief, or ignorance." ~ Theodore Fontaine
I'm a former biology teacher with a degree in vertebrate evolution and I've had conversations similar to this for years. The other person fades out while you're doing your best to be clear and informative for the time you have, and they reply with literal nonsense. Good on you guys for being so calm
@mikesmith1181
Жыл бұрын
the 'fading out' is a symptom of low IQ. It is analogous to an older computer running out of RAM. The capacity is simply not there.
@rickkwitkoski1976
Жыл бұрын
@George Poniris I am going to assume that you are 'Muricun... Yeah. SO MUCH religiosity idiocy in YOUR country. There is some in Canada as well but nowhere NEAR what you have in the US. The majority of people who are biblical literalist either send their kids to a parochial or other religion supported school or homeschool them. The curriculum that they use is almost always some biblical oriented tripe from the US. I don't know how the latter get away with that. EVERY CHILD is supposed to have the core curriculum as set down by the jurisdiction in which they live. Other addition elements can be added but not to the detriment of the core material. That may be true in the private schools because it is monitored by oversight bodies. The homeschooling though... dunno. I have a set of four nephews who were schooled in this fashion. The two older ones finished "high school" with far less education than a public school kid. The two younger ones... coming on about the same. One of the older ones managed to get some decent post sec education and has a career. The other one... not so much. I feel for these kids who are hampered because of their parent's lack of understanding... and WANT of understanding.
@Drojanx
Жыл бұрын
@@rickkwitkoski1976 Unfortunately, we have people here who are so far up their own asses about freedom, that they think a standardized curriculum is a bad thing. Their response to such it is that the government shouldn't dictate what is taught to our children. It's all so goddamn stupid, because a non standardized system is what causes people like David here.
@michaeldavis6473
Жыл бұрын
@@rickkwitkoski1976 many victims of school shootings wished they home schooled. Remember it’s the curriculum given by the state, not the teachers fault so much.
@michaeldavis6473
Жыл бұрын
@@mikesmith1181 lol, good analogy!
I'm going to name David's smug laughter the Dunning Kruger Chuckle
@raysalmon6566
Жыл бұрын
01 that we're supposed to be evolutionary cousins to and they're examining the dna here and looking at fossils and the layer that's added to this one is that rather than just looking at the dna they're looking at the dna and then correlating that to some of the morphological structures the shape of the bones and see if they can find any connections between those and a bit of a fascinating way to think about this this is the first one that's been done that way and the conclusions are very interesting especially if we start thinking about these from a biblical perspective that's right so for a long time as creationists we've been saying that neanderthals and humans are you know they're neanderthals are human it's fully human you know the secular world has gone back and forth as classifying them as homo neanderthalensis or homo sapien neanderthal instances whether it's a different subspecies or different species and we've said all along they're fully human and what this study shows is that most *** Are humans descendants of neanderthals|Tim Chaffey, and Rob Webb
@JB-yb4wn
Жыл бұрын
@@raysalmon6566 Punctuate much?
@raysalmon6566
Жыл бұрын
@@JB-yb4wn Punctuate much? Evidence that you read it😂
@JB-yb4wn
Жыл бұрын
@@raysalmon6566 Well, no. I just looked at it and thought that if someone is so ignorant of the basic fundamentals of grammar, then that person really has nothing to say that could be of any importance to anyone. By the way, there is a period after the word "it", as that word ends a sentence.
@raysalmon6566
Жыл бұрын
@@JB-yb4wn do you really think social media cares about punchuation and spelling
Caller “ there’s no evidence of evolution like there is for Adam and Eve” Forrest-“we have mountains of evidence , documents and fossils dating back thousands of years “ Caller “yeah but no one has heard of it” Forrest “ its been around and studied for hundreds of years I’d be happy to walk through the evidence with you” Caller “well no , because there is no evidence” XD
"What is the process of radiometric dating?" "Your claim is that suns exploded and formed heavy elements"
I can’t think of a conversation I’ve witnessed between an atheist and a theist that didn’t devolve into the theist tying themselves in knots to explain their beliefs.
@ericdellinger6260
Жыл бұрын
Neither can I. I've had dozens if not hundreds of conversations with theists and watching their mental gymnastics when you bring science, reason, facts, or especially when you point out contradictions in the bible is just stunning.
Nearly every sentence that came out of the caller's mouth can be used as a dunning kruger effect meme.
@tubab72
Жыл бұрын
David would claim that the Dunning-Kruger effect is "just science fiction" !
@imperialmotoring3789
Жыл бұрын
Does that explain why the LGBTQUIA religion says men can get pregnant?
@xxyWolf
Жыл бұрын
@@imperialmotoring3789 Apart from being ignorant, you also seem to be very confused about the term "religion".
@imperialmotoring3789
Жыл бұрын
@@xxyWolf No. I was correct. You are purposely self-ignorant, but hey I know you want to fit in.
@noobbotctv2402
Жыл бұрын
@@imperialmotoring3789 do the world a favour and shut up forever please
Germ theory comes to mind as something that wasn't figured out until relatively recently.
That was painful. Forrest and Dan’s patience with the caller is both admirable and (ironically) leads me to believe there must be a god because it surely took power of supernatural origin to suffer this caller.
David is awesome. Mentioning science fiction while believing in fantasy. It's all connected!
@arthurhunt642
Жыл бұрын
Someone needs to throw him a line before the quicksand swallows him up!
@Boris99999
Жыл бұрын
@@arthurhunt642 No worries - one cannot sink any further if one is already at the bottom. The only problem is how proud the guy is of his inadequate education! He is either a really great troll or a really pitiful victim of religious indoctrination. I mean he denies the most robust physical facts - you would need to try and use a lot of energy to stay this uneducated in the modern world!
@jimvenizelos4649
Жыл бұрын
And this is why I believe an aptitude test should be required in order to vote, or have children...
@jimvenizelos4649
Жыл бұрын
Could it be possible that this David is actually some friend they got to call and sound this screwy? Surely, no one is this ignorant.
@DonTheMoron716
Жыл бұрын
@@jimvenizelos4649 Haven't been around much, have you?
"There's Radioaction" good job David
Forrest: Gives incredible answers and explains with details. David: Nuh-ah
“Radiometric dating, fossil records….” “But I have this old book…”
David=king of the homeschooled kids.
I'm surprised this caller has enough brainpower to be able to dial the phone.
@jasmijnariel
6 ай бұрын
They made SIRI for them😂
Forrest is such a great educator. He knows he’s not getting through to the caller but, keeps going. I always learn something when I watch him.
I wasn't sure what I was getting into when I started this. I am in tears laughing now. This is fantastic 😂
David clearly knows what radiometric dating is. He just wants to make sure Forrest knows what it is. Also, his girlfriend goes to another school.
@OldSchoolSk8ermatt
Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's a school in Canada? Oh wait. Canada is science fiction...
@michaelyoung-xt2zl
Жыл бұрын
Literal laugh out loud.
@davidmandell1727
Жыл бұрын
In Canada.
@glenw3814
Жыл бұрын
😂
@rs72098
Жыл бұрын
Radiometric dating only goes back 50,000 years on DNA, that's if you're assuming lots of constants about chemical reactions that may be off.
I admire the hosts for keeping calm on this call. David's superior little chuckle would've had me shouting.
@arthurhunt642
Жыл бұрын
He was a smart ass little bitch. There,- I said it for Matt! Matt is still here with us in spirit...Wish we could say that about God.
@shanefoster2132
Жыл бұрын
I would have hung up. Such a smug laugh.
@wytho3751
Жыл бұрын
I noticed that as well. Honestly though it’s likely a defense mechanism. Dave’s brain is experiencing that very uncomfortable cognitive dissonance that we formerly-indoctrinated are all too familiar with. It’s really hard to break through that feeling, especially when you’ve been told your whole life that, “your faith WILL be tested and standing adamant in your position is OBJECTIVELY morally good.”
@revwillyg6450
Жыл бұрын
@@arthurhunt642Matt would have blown a goddamn gasket. Lol
@xntriksofreshh5037
Жыл бұрын
He's lucky Matt Dilahunty wasn't on😂
David proves that you can never be wrong if you never answer a question.
@Rage867
Жыл бұрын
@studio732jrl2 Or, and this is just a suggestion, you learn the difference between a joke and an assertion.
@reubenmcloughlin423
8 ай бұрын
Ah, the art of politics
@petermeichan3160
7 ай бұрын
yup he's a moron, the earth is older than the sun ? a great example of the lack of public education in America
@user-dk8lo6fw3u
4 ай бұрын
The corollary to, 'it isn't a lie if you believe it".
Most people don't think about what they say. They open their mouths and let words just fall out. I work behind a cash register, and I see it every day.
-"Caller, what's your name?" -"David." -"No, I don't believe you, that's not true because no one's ever heard of you in history."
I am endlessly entertained by people who say things like “I can refute evolution,“ or “I can refute the big bang theory,“ and then go on to say something that has been said and refuted thousands of times by thousands of others. If they would take just a few minutes to go on the Internet they would find out that what they are saying is nothing new, or useful, or intelligent.
@88mphDrBrown
Жыл бұрын
They don't care. Most of them got these arguments from videos where they were refuted.
@DontRespectTheUS
Жыл бұрын
When you TRULY don’t care if what you say is true then you can be a narcissist who assumes he knows everything.
@charleskelly7464
Жыл бұрын
Look Up Gregor Mendel he was a biologist he proved that evolution is impossible you learned about him probably in high school biology he’s in every science book look him up and see what you think evolutions dead. If you would like more information just ask I’ll send it to you
@kasplatz553
Жыл бұрын
The interwhat?? internet? Nobody in history has heard of that. Its not in the bible. So there is no internet.
@larrystevens7410
Жыл бұрын
@@DontRespectTheUS Yep, it's called "Trumping yourself."
The audience laughing is DOPE AF!
@arthurhunt642
Жыл бұрын
Yes, the statements David was making was DOPE! I'm getting a little bit old at 67, but I like the term "Dope" as used by the young people in the 90's. I don't think David knows many terms used by anybody at any time. He's just a little out there somewhere..
@DreadCaptainJames
Жыл бұрын
I thought I was crazy, but the crew was definitely audibly laughing right? It made it that much more enjoyable!
I just found your channel! I absolutely love it!
Anyone else picturing David just shaking his head as Forrest is calmly and rationally explaining evolution basics? 😂 They just don't want to hear it. It's actually kinda sad.
Humans may not have known about the theory of evolution, but they definitely knew that organisms change through breeding over generations
@thegrouchization
Жыл бұрын
The very existence of dogs, cats, and other domesticated animals is proof of that.
@kuroiryu9434
Жыл бұрын
@@thegrouchization you beat me to it lol
@johnscaramis2515
Жыл бұрын
@@thegrouchization But that's not evolution, because... exploding suns 🤣
@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT
Жыл бұрын
Like a virus mutating into something dangerous, forcing one to avoid church?
@thegrouchization
Жыл бұрын
@@johnscaramis2515 Funnily enough, I just finished watching a video about supernovae.
Forrest's mini-lectures are very clear and understandable, the caller just isn't listening.
@cylemorton2131
Жыл бұрын
Cognitive dissonance, simply put, he can't see what is right in front of his face.
@nelsrinden510
Жыл бұрын
David isn't listening because he has an agend to promote. Facts just get in the way of that agenda.
@joyfulzero853
7 ай бұрын
It's the equivalent of closing your eyes, fingers in your ears, and going la, la la, la, la!
@hollenfeuer1
6 ай бұрын
Even if he just disagreed with the outcome, doesn't mean he can't be honest about how we got there. These folks drive me crazy.
😂Forrest “Oh, we very do!” I love that! I will use that before the day is out!
One of the most perfect depictions of the statement: Ignorance is Bliss, that I have ever seen. 🤣
I was 8 years old when I read the Bible and thought to myself "that doesn't make any sense" then I asked my mom for explanations and she couldn't come up with answers for most of the things I asked. So I just stopped believing right then and there. My dad was an atheist, but he never talked to us about it before we were older.
@BlueRadium
Жыл бұрын
That's what happened to me when I was 12. Sitting down and reading the bible was a slog, but skipping over the entire pages of just family histories and whatnot, the juicy bits, oh wow. Decided to not take part.
@digbycrankshaft7572
Жыл бұрын
I knew Noah's Ark was bullshit the first time I heard it and it just went downhill from there.
@johnflesner8086
Жыл бұрын
I never had a real thought about religion/god until my mother thought it would be a good idea if I got confirmation classes as a Lutheran. 1959 Jr. HS. I read the bible and thought it was no different than Greek mythology. It has the same level of evidence. Tada! Atheist!
@Vladimir_Fedorov27
9 ай бұрын
@@johnflesner8086 Objection! Greek mythology is cool though and doesn't tell you how to live)
@johnflesner8086
9 ай бұрын
@@Vladimir_Fedorov27 Sure it does. It gives you parables on the decisions you make.
The very existence of David does make the case that even evolution screws up sometimes
@revwillyg6450
Жыл бұрын
Lol. Very true!😂
@johnd.shultz7423
Жыл бұрын
I kinds hate to say this: but this kind of all encompassing Dumbness forms a hyper efficient shield of protection against factual knowledge.David isnt fool proof, he's Intelligence proof..
@Sal.K--BC
Жыл бұрын
Actually, I hate that statement, because it makes it sound like evolution is trying to make humans smarter. It's not! If you think David is an evolutionary "screw up", you don't understand evolution.
@ryanandrewbaker
Жыл бұрын
@@Sal.K--BC I agree with you. I think the fact that David may reproduce to pass on those genes is a travesty though.
@jamieoshea1681
Жыл бұрын
@@Sal.K--BC it was a joke you muppet
David " im covering my ears like a kid, and when your words mean nothing i go la la la"
Hahaha "things have happened" this is why I love Forrest