"But MY religion doesn't have the same problems as those fake ones, because I believe in it!"

Religion blames us for its flaws and takes credit for our strengths. This is one of the saddest types of calls.

@OswaldBatesIIIEsq

Ай бұрын

That's a really good point.

@zen-sean

Ай бұрын

You articulated so clearly that emotion I feel toward religion. It’s more than anger. It’s seeing completely delusional inept thinking methods taking credit for everything and blaming us for not giving it credit. Thank god for the successful surgery

@cctomcat321

27 күн бұрын

​@@zen-seanquestion. Do you think that's selfish in some kind of way? Or born out of ego? Genuinely asking, because I have a similar issue. Like if I stop and hand my last $20 to a cold and hungry family and the first and only thing I hear is, "Oh, thank God. I will pray for you," or some nonsense. It genuinely irritates me, but I keep it to myself. I should just be happy I'm providing relief and making someone feel thankful, right? Or is it still some weird backhanded compliment? I never say anything out of the concept of "be normal," but I wonder why it irritated me so much when it shouldn't.

@LOwens-xf8yo

9 сағат бұрын

Clever line, mind if I steal it?

@heiyuall

3 сағат бұрын

@@LOwens-xf8yo Feel free.

"One day the urge to drink just stopped instantly. It took years and years of prayer and relapse." One day, i was suddenly really good at driving. All it took was years and years of experience. 😂

@daheikkinen

Ай бұрын

Like going bankrupt, it happened gradually, then all at once. I think that’s from Hemingway or something.

lol, mother theresa was a monster

@advorak8529

10 күн бұрын

No painkillers needed and dare you need medical treatment when there’s praying time. She followed what she thought God demanded of her, not because she was a humanist or “a good person”. We can only be glad that she did not think her God wanted her to murder people (-> thuggee) or do mass poisonings. She’d done it with the same energy.

I’ve never had the misfortune to be adequately gullible to believe in the nonsense of invisible sky fairies. The idea of suddenly believing in a fiction because someone falsely claims I’ll lose nothing as a result is absolutely ridiculous.

@Jeff_Vader

27 күн бұрын

I like the way you wrote that. 😊

@anushkasekkingstad1300

27 күн бұрын

@@Jeff_Vader Thanks, I’m happy to be persuaded to change my mind based on evidence but not on empty promises. When my wife and I had our family tree researched, we discovered that nobody in our family had ever been baptised. Like the vast majority in the Nordics, gods play absolutely no part in our lives.

"If I grew up in a Muslim country, I'd still have a choice to accept JHC." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@UNFORGIVABLExGAMING

29 күн бұрын

Depends on the specific country to be fair - I am VERY anti Islam, don't think I'm defending it please lol

When believers get painted in a corner they play like they don’t understand.

@raccuia1

Ай бұрын

Or they abuse and gaslight you, or deflect or salad talk or come up with all the sick defense mechanisms and in the end if that doesn't work they run away.

@jamescrawford3956

13 күн бұрын

​@raccuia1 before running away, they'll "pray for you".

Christian: "I'm not going to eat this sandwich, because some guy who owns two private jets told me that one day I'll get Magic Fillet Mignon if I give him all my money." Me: "Well, you're passing up a perfectly fine sandwich needlessly. And you'll go sandwich-less for the rest of your life while that guy flies around laughing and counting your money."

My Mom use to say: _We don't believe in a God, because we aren't weak minded_ And she was right.

@Jeff_Vader

27 күн бұрын

Very nice. 😊

@anushkasekkingstad1300

27 күн бұрын

She was absolutely correct

Mother "let them suffer" Teresa

@davidszeremi1786

Ай бұрын

She's such a farking miracle

@anushkasekkingstad1300

27 күн бұрын

@@davidszeremi1786 She was a nasty, cruel piece of work. No wonder catholics loved her inhumanity.

@ChrisM-zm4li

8 күн бұрын

And she never put her finger in the barrel of any gun. As usual, he's just making stuff up. She helped broker some sort of ceasefire to help get some kids rescued once. She was a monster.

@anushkasekkingstad1300

8 күн бұрын

She was pure evil.

@davidszeremi1786

8 күн бұрын

@@anushkasekkingstad1300 the scary thing is that she may have believed she was doing the right thing and people will defend her for reasons like that

4:00 He traded addiction to alcohol for addiction to religion.

@anushkasekkingstad1300

27 күн бұрын

One is every bit as harmful as the other.

@jamescrawford3956

13 күн бұрын

​@@anushkasekkingstad1300at least the religion won't destroy his kidneys

@anushkasekkingstad1300

12 күн бұрын

@@jamescrawford3956 Hahaha ~ It’ll destroy his life but leave his kidneys happy.

It's a golden oldie, but... Knock knock Who's there? Jesus What do you want? To save you Save me from what? To save you from what I'm going to do to you if you don't let me in. Christianity is such a crock of nonsense it's baffling people still take it seriously.

@NN-wc7dl

Ай бұрын

That's absolutely true. Must be in the Bible somewhere. 🙃🥳

Ever notice these theist callers either don't understand or pay absolutely no attention to any explanation that completely lets the air out of the tires of their theistic position? Five minutes into this call, Jeffrey knows he is full of it. And after that, it's a parade of tapdances, logical fallacies and post hoc rationalizations

I’m happy for Jeff but don’t get me wrong my alcohol cravings went away very differently. It wasn’t until I accepted that no god was coming to save me that the cravings started to go away, because I accepted that it was on me to save myself. Not some god. I got my shit together more and more daily and now I don’t feel the need to drink any more. I barely even get cravings. Not as many people are as fortunate I understand but not everyone needs some savior to help them out of these kinds of circumstances either. (Context: I drank almost daily for years and was always the one that got the drunkest at get togethers.)

@davidszeremi1786

Ай бұрын

You have proof that it's possible without god

@ritchie6162

Ай бұрын

@@davidszeremi1786 I’m sorry was this meant to be a question? I didn’t see a question mark.

@davidszeremi1786

Ай бұрын

@@ritchie6162 I'm taking your word for it.

@ritchie6162

Ай бұрын

@@davidszeremi1786 gotcha gotcha 👍

@nickkavanagh8094

29 күн бұрын

12 years sober after a 24 year bender and not one day of it happened because of a deity.

I wanted, hoped, implored my imaginary closet goblin, every single day, to put a $20 bill in my jacket pocket. Every day, I checked my pocket, nothing. But I kept imploring the closet goblin anyway. And one day, there was a $20 bill! Thank you, dear Roland. So, Roland the Closet Goblin is real... Definitely real. I'm convinced every time Jeffrey clears his throat, he knows he's about to utter something he knows isn't true.

@jamescrawford3956

13 күн бұрын

I need Roland in my life 💵

Are people still using Pascal's Wager in 2024?! Even the pro apologetics don't do that!

@davidx9417

Ай бұрын

Even Pascal didn’t use it as a serious tool. It was to demonstrate larger points.

@Leith_Crowther

Ай бұрын

2024 is not an especially enlightened age where people are smarter than they’ve ever been. Stupidity shouldn’t be shocking in 1024, 2024, or 3024.

@MarquisLeary34

Ай бұрын

@@Leith_Crowther True, but again, even the people that argue for Christianity as a living have said "This is not a good tactic..."

@ritchie6162

Ай бұрын

Unfortunately the Midwest (where I’m from) and many other places in the US haven’t heard or gone through many of these arguments just yet, we’re a bit behind. I didn’t realize how ridiculous Pascal’s wager was until last year when I really started critically analyzing it.

@UNFORGIVABLExGAMING

29 күн бұрын

​@@ritchie6162 North Carolinian here - but my family is from Chicago/parts of rural Wisconsin. They are all believers - but don't go to church, pray at meals etc., so I wasn't raised in a "religious" family. It's INSANE how hardcore Christianity is here, I hope you are surrounded by people who use their brains more than the people here 😂

The lead singer of Steppenwolf ("Born to be Wild") was a german (like me). He told that in these times they smoked everything that could be lit. And one day he woke up, and his first thought was "Where is something to smoke?". When he realized that this was his really his very first thought, he decided "No, I do not want to be controlled by that stuff" and stopped in this very moment. And made it, No God needed.

@nicolab2075

29 күн бұрын

Although that in itself doesn't prove that it wasn't in fact god who helped him.

Getting religious ads on an anti religious program is wild.

I stop drinking because of a DWI and I never even mentioned god😂

@nickkavanagh8094

29 күн бұрын

Love it! 24 years of alcoholism, arrested 3 times due to alcohol, directly or indirectly. Last arrest was just over 12 years ago, a DWI at 5:30 on a sunny Saturday afternoon. That one brought my problem's affect on innocent people front and center, and I've not had a drink since, without any god.

You waste your life if it turns out you don't actually have evidence to justify your belief.

@waynedexter

Ай бұрын

I’m guessing it’s because his belief in a god makes him feel good, gives him purpose and feeds his ego/makes him feel special. All the above is a powerful drug. So powerful that it makes him oblivious to blatant contradictions, logic and last but not least evidence

@gatheringleaves

Ай бұрын

How does believing in a higher power cause you to waste your life?

@waynedexter

Ай бұрын

@@gatheringleaves If heaven is in the equation then yes, believing in magic can cause you to waste your life

@alucarderipmavtube

Ай бұрын

​​@@gatheringleaves every second wasted believing a lie is a second lost that could've been used to do anything else that's actually useful.

@TeslaGengar

Ай бұрын

@@gatheringleaveshow does believing in a higher power not waste your life?

When my grandson was 6 months old, I held him in my arms as he was dying. His heart stopped 4 times in the ambulance on the way to a better hospital that had the needed medical equipment. Upon arrival, he was put in a coma, and the doctor said to us, "I can't tell you how serious this is." He was in the hospital for 6 more months. Today, at age 18, I joke with him, "See, not praying works, you're alive." Instead of of praying, I thought about kidnapping the doctor and forcing them to get their act together and act quicker because I knew he was dying, then surrender when and if I made it to Santa Barbara alive. Of course, I wouldn't have done it, but I certainly was weighing my options. I had no free will to think otherwise.

My life is better in many ways now Im not religious. I wish I had never been religious.

I'm a recovering alcoholic and when I quit I 100% did it myself with of course help. It was my fault when I drank. I sure as hell won't give someone else credit for my sobriety.

@Paulus449

23 күн бұрын

I wish you well for your future. Alcohol is a hard drug to quit.

@labspeciman7402

23 күн бұрын

@@Paulus449 Appreciate it.

The very notion that whether you believe something or not, is based on some cost/benefit analysis is absurd. However, beyond that, and the problem of picking the right religion, is the notion that it would work. That a god as described by Christianity wouldn't see right through the motivation. "Well, you didn't `really` believe, but you pretended just in case, so...ehh come on in!" It's really a mockery of the entire concept.

What if... God is real and this life is a test HOWEVER for reasons we could never understand God is going to reward the Non-believers and punish the believers like the caller? The idea that Theists risk nothing by believing is so flawed I can't believe anyone still uses that argument.

@Leith_Crowther

Ай бұрын

“So, not only did you not spend ANY time worshipping me, not only did you follow the evidence to logically rule out my existence, you ALSO made an active effort to dissuade other people from believing in me, too.” “[anxious gulp]” “What color do you want for your heavenly castle, and do you want it to match your complimentary dragon?”

@davidszeremi1786

Ай бұрын

Wasn't it Homer Simpson who wisely said, "What if you choose the wrong church and instead of making God happier each time you worship you are just making them madder and madder "

@ritchie6162

Ай бұрын

Maybe god got bored of using his power to make believers afraid and submit to him so and he will reward non-believers because we broke his spell of control and he wants worthy adversaries to entertain him.

Jen Aldrich is amazing!

" ignoring the mrs" is whats keeping my marriage alive 😮

"If you believe in god, you lose nothing." On the contrary - and never mind which god among thousands are you supposed to guess right about - if you try to build on a contradictory belief, you have constructed a system in which ANYTHING can be inferred. So IT MATTERS VERY MUCH whether you uncritically accept claims about the existence of something that in fact hasn't been shown to exist. If you're open to being gullible on this, how do you determine where you aren't gullible? Gullibility exacts a HUGE cost. Once you start, there's no end to it. And worse still, there is the Sunk Costs Fallacy, in which victims of deception or abuse hold out for just a little longer in the vain hope that things will somehow turn out right. You're in so deep that it's hard to write it off as a loss. So you invest a little more, hoping that it will turn around. But it never does. That's the price of being gullible, of believing these god claims on bad evidence. Lose nothing? You can lose EVERYTHING.

@ritchie6162

Ай бұрын

Doesn’t even account for how said beliefs can completely change the way you interact with the people around you.

I've been in recovery for 3 months, it's still hard to stay sober, I can't be around that it. Nobody told me how much of an uphill battle this was gonna be,but I'm finding that the only way to "recover" is replacing your addiction with another. I've got myself into the gym,picked up healthier hobbies, I have an addicts mind.. There's still this lingering feeling that I'm gonna slip up and relapse. It is hard man...it ain't easy by any means.. people who say "oh bro just control yourself." Don't get it. I'm doing this without a "God belief",no it's not admirable, I'm not a hero, I'm just doing what's right for myself. Even then,these Christ cultists keep telling me "oh, just pray for the demons to not posses you,and you won't have the problem addiction anymore." Or they'll say "God is working his miracles on you,you should be thanking him for his blessings." Both comments feel extremely insulting... Don't listen to Christians when it comes to sobriety. They speak out of pure ignorance.

@Jeff_Vader

27 күн бұрын

Good for you. Keep doing what you're doing.

Jeffrey from Maryland's first question "what got you to the conclusion that there's no God"? was mishandled - as athiests the only answer to that is "we haven't come to that conclusion, nor any conclusion, about God's existence. Convince us of it, Jeffrey!"

2:28 Every time ignore my Mrs, l get hit😂

Nice sounding guy who refused to analyze his own imbecilic belief system.

It breaks my heart to see how gullible people are. It’s like adults, speaking like a little babies.

I got off alcohol, not through god, but went on anti depressent, so cut it out to give the meds a chance. Since then I have an "only in food" thing, ie cakes / puddings or if somebody treats me to a bar of liqueur chocolate (2 bars since 2015). But well done to him.

@Jeff_Vader

27 күн бұрын

Nice one, good going. 😊

God gets the credit for all things people think are good. But when horrible things happen. Where is the GOD of love and prevention? Seems he should get credit for doing nothing as well.

I asked my mom why she believed in Christianity and she responded that Christianity lead her to that conclusion, so I asked what lead her to Christianity and she said her pastor during her childhood, and she sees nothing illogical about that conclusion and gets mad if I bring up anything about religion now

This dude sounds so much like kitbogas old man voice filter I can’t unhear it

When you're desperate to believe what you believe, You make it up as you go along!!!! Some people are just beyond help!

Another thing abusers do that came up in this call, if you do something wrong it's YOUR fault, but if you do something good it's because of ME.

As a 25year opi addict who now has 15 months clean i can assure everyone that God had NOTHING to do with me getting clean but had a huge part in my downward spiral of addiction

@Jeff_Vader

27 күн бұрын

Good on you for getting clean. Are you, by any chance, a NIN fan?

@RupertMay

27 күн бұрын

@@Jeff_Vader of course. . that was my type of music in my addiction...Sound Garden ,Audio slave,Mother love Bone, Pearl Jam,NIN Collective Soul etc

@Jeff_Vader

27 күн бұрын

@RupertMay it was the way you wrote "in my downward spiral", you sounded like a person in the know.

@RupertMay

27 күн бұрын

@@Jeff_Vader I wouldn't say " in the know" but most assuredly in search for "truth" will I ever find it?? Of course not but it is the quest that drives me and makes me homesick for a place that no longer exist

The Bible has several instances of Human Sacrifices where god demands a parent to sacrifice their children or others and I'm not even counting Abraham. King Mesha of Moab sacrificed his crown prince in 2 kings 3:27). King Ahaz of Judah sacrificed his son in (2 Kings 16:3). King Manasseh of Judah sacrificed his sons by fire (2 Chronicles 33:6). Jephthah also sacrificed his daughter after promising it to god in Judges 11-12. Then in Numbers 31, Moses commanded to take vengeance upon the Midianites. After they killed all the men, women, and boys, only saving little virgin girls(btw, when I say virgins, we're talking most likely preteens, since most girls were married off when they had their period, so most of the women who were killed that weren't virgins, were most likely 13 and older) were kept as slaves. In fact, the bible counts 32,000 virgin girls taken as slaves. And then god demanded out of all the things they took as prizes of war, including the slaves, that 1 of every 100 be offered up to him as a burnt offering. So 32 virgin girls were killed to simply satiate god's sadism because no way a benevolent god would condone any of this.

He was so far gone that he was completely oblivious to the arguments you were making. He didn’t understand any of it

Everything I've read in the Lord of the Rings points to Gandalf and Eru. You want proof of Gandalf? Boom, first chapter, Gandalf performs magic at Bilbo's party. Proof.

Pascal's Wager? Zombie apologetics. (yawn)

@Jeff_Vader

27 күн бұрын

Zombie apocalypse?

« You lose nothing »….except your connection to reality and all your critical thinking skills.

God's love IS conditional. If you don't love God, he not only won't love you he'll condemn you to eternal hell.

WHY DO PEOPLE PRAISE GOD ( WHO DOESNT EXIST ) FOR HELPING THEM WITH A DRUG OR ALCOHOL ADDIDICTION , OR A SERIOUS MEDICAL PROBLEM . BUT THEY DONT CONDEMN GOD FOR GIVING THEM THE PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE !

The god of the Bible does not have unconditional love. If you screw up Jesus says he never knew you, if you screw up the old testament God kills you or has someone enslave or kill you. Screwing up can be as simple as lusting after any woman, eating a piece of fruit, or worshiping the right god the wrong way.

Spoiler alert: caller not too bright…!!

self flatulating...lol

I realy like this show, but this call was handled really badly.

I went on a train journey, that proves Harry Potter real.

@MrEvanrich

25 күн бұрын

We can test that a lot more than god. Owls are real creatures that you can see and touch, and they Fly. London is also real, and they had cars in harry potter, so it must be real

@graemerose1616

25 күн бұрын

@@MrEvanrich not going to try and run through a brick wall to get to a platform though.

Me: Do mentally handicapped people go to heaven? Christian: Yes. Me: So you mean to tell me GOD sacrificed his son, when all he had to do was just make us all mentally handicapped?! 😂😅😊

@adamrspears1981

29 күн бұрын

Christian: Well GOD gives us all free will. Me: Are you saying mentally handicapped people don't have free will? ...& if you are, then why did GOD make mentally handicapped people??

people that claim God helped them stop drinking alcohol because they prayed over and over again are so fucking arrogant because the same fucking evil. God didn’t do anything for the praying parents of a dying child who has cancer. The arrogance to think that you are so special, but those people are not is mind-boggling.

Sigh, so god chose to personally intervene in your alcoholism, but doesn't intervene in child murder or molestation. Right. It's all part of his mysterious plan.

He just keeps rambaling on and dont listen. Theres no helping this guy.

Delusional 😢

Drunk on Religion is as bad as drunk on Alchohol Either way... you talk more Bollocks.

If you have to deeply research the Bible to find why it doesn't make sense, then it's not a path to salvation for most people. This is a stupid way to give the most important message of all time. Is god supposed to be stupid? Self contradictory logic

Repent. Believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life. Luke 13:3 KJV I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Romans 10:9 KJV That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

@robbyroba

Ай бұрын

That is not going to convince anyone especially those that already believe in your religion.

@AtheistRedBlue

Ай бұрын

IF you are correct then a lot of innocent people (even heroes) will not be saved according to a lot of christians and the bible because god created them in a certain environment. Very bad people will also be forgiven and go to heaven instead of heroes and etc. Your religion makes no sense and it has a lot of contradictions. The writers of the gospels are anonymous. Moses/god did cruel things and approved slavery according to the bible. (Numbers 31 and Exodus 21)

@faelheavymetal

Ай бұрын

Every time you spam this bullshit here, I'm more and more convinced that you're wrong.

@TheLevantin

Ай бұрын

Mark, please stop these lies of the Death Eaters! The only true savior is Harry Potter! His truth was shown to us in books AND movies! You fell for the wrong Death Eaters but don't worry, there is still hope! Return to Harry Potter and stop following false Muggle stories. We both know that in your heart you know the truth, the truth of Harry Potter!

@triberium_

Ай бұрын

These kinds of comments are the most egotistical stuff, its sad how you think youre doing good while trying to impose your will over those who don't think the way you do. Your approach is insulting and selfish.