True about the electric blanket, but I can't believe you didn't mention the single most important electrical item - the dehumidifier! If there's one thing that makes a cold damp house feel warm, dries my clothes, stops the mold and damp and just generally makes life tolerable, our desumidificador is that thing.

@stevebraidwood1143

2 жыл бұрын

Agree!

@greenknitter

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! I live in Ireland which has 85 to +90% humidity -temperate rainforest climate, and have two dehumidifiers in my stone cottage. No mold or damp since I bought them.

@antoniocruz8083

2 жыл бұрын

The best is an air-conditioner used as heating. Not only does it give instant heat but also dehumidifies. Of course, you need to own the house to install it. Even better but more power consuming is floor heating. It heats and dries the structure of the building so it is the most comfortable. If you cannot afford either then an electric blanket is a must. At least you have one last refuge to be warm, in bed.

@NannyOggins

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, we live on Madeira island so not mainland Portugal but I honestly think that a dehumidifier should be considered essential for many areas of the works including Scotland which is where we were living previously. The mould that grows in cool damp conditions is so bad for health.

@greenknitter

2 жыл бұрын

@@antoniocruz8083 Air conditioners draw a lot of power and are not climate friendly though. Under floor heating is great but not suitable for some older buildings - my flagstone kitchen and hall. Insulation to current standards - example 300mm attic insulation in my country, and things like triple glaze windows are best because it reduces the need for heating in the first place.

I'm Portuguese and bureaucracy is really one of the most delicate issues we have in Portugal. Even for us who have always lived here it's quite the struggle.

@kohtime

2 жыл бұрын

@Never Move To Portugal lol what’s happened to u that makes u believe that?

@kohtime

2 жыл бұрын

@Never Move To Portugal can I ask where u are from? My wife is brazilian and we are aware of the corruption and socialist policies which plague Portugal too…. But…. It’s sunny…. Cheap to buy homes and two hours from the uk on a £50 flight….. where did u come from previously that Portugal is hard to bare?

@ilana8153

2 жыл бұрын

@@kohtime cheap to buy homes? Where?

@warzone9122

2 жыл бұрын

@@ilana8153 😂😂 he obviously never even been to Portugal if he thinks it’s “cheap to buy homes”.

@kohtime

2 жыл бұрын

@@vggm5750 it’s the safest place in Europe! Take a look in London maybe? Or thank your European Union and the socialist government for your poor wages. I’m in the uk! Can earn 80-90k euro and pick up a cheap house in Portugal for 60k.

I did it!!! I left Belgium for Portugal one year ago. We live now in the center of Portugal, between Tomar and Abrantes, near the river Zèzere. And BLISS.... the best decision we ever made! PS : We have a stove. 😉

@TalktheStreets

2 жыл бұрын

Omg I have friends that live there and its HEAVEN. Enjoy and congrats!!

@oneworld1160

2 жыл бұрын

Very beautiful region. I live between Leiria and Nazaré.

@LOKI77able

2 жыл бұрын

Fantastique! Vous venez d'où en Belgique?

@frenk_expat

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty much anywhere in the world is better than Belgium

@oneworld1160

2 жыл бұрын

@@LOKI77able Sorry, I have been living in Brussels for 5 years and worked there for 15. Its about the shittiest place in the world. I have lived in many countries, including in Africa and Asia, but I never found such a level of disorganisation and corruption than in Brussels.

Your remark about the bureaucracy - “It depends who’s at the counter …” Oh, so true! If you get someone who feels like being helpful, it can be so simple. A corollary - if they don’t know the answer, there’s a good chance they’ll just make something up, so you get to go down some pretty interesting dead ends. But like you, I think the wonders of being here far outweigh the inconveniences!

@KryptosChain

2 жыл бұрын

*Phil - If you think Portugal is bad, try going to Malta lol. It's a nightmare to even open up a bank account when you have a full time job*

@ticojester

Жыл бұрын

Being from Costa Rica, the description of the bureaucracy made me laugh. You all are so spoiled

@georgelewis8798

Жыл бұрын

Dear Mr. Gold, I appreciate your attitude Sir. Wish I knew you well enough to correspond.

I’ve lived in several southern parts of the world and there seems to be a lack of knowledge that insulating a home is NOT just for cold climates. The whole point of a well insulated home is to keep the inside temperature constant no matter what the temperature is outside, including 40!! I am grateful that our place in Portugal has some insulation, but I just want to bang my head when I think about all the properties here that lack it. To anyone who has a property or is going to buy one, please do yourself a favor and have someone add styrofoam insulation to your outside walls ( you don’t need to do the internal walls). You will be very happy you did!

@oneworld1160

2 жыл бұрын

Makes your house a bit ugly and often the rooftiles don‘t cover the outside insulation, making lots of expensive roof work necessary - if you find the old tiles again. Much easier is to insulate the uppermost ceiling.

@vommir.

2 жыл бұрын

@@oneworld1160 You seem to know quite a bit in that regard, do you have a link/video for some tips?

@oneworld1160

2 жыл бұрын

@@vommir. Not really. Takes years to lesrn.

@vommir.

2 жыл бұрын

@@oneworld1160 Learned the hard way in London guess I will in Lisbon now haha!

@KryptosChain

2 жыл бұрын

*Same issue in southern Spain ! It's like they forget how cold it can get indoors during winters! It shocks me how they lack that. It's something everyone should have in mind before thinking of buying property in Portugal or Spain*

I've never had a problem with bureaucracy in Portugal, but you are right that you need to accept things take longer and will probably be more complicated than they would in the UK for instance. I've heard from a lot of other foreigners that they get angry or complain and I don't think that helps anyone. Smile, keep calm, use any Portuguese you know (even if it's just olá and obrigada) and at least you'll start off on the right foot. I think the other thing that people need to know before moving to Portugal is that it can REALLY rain here in winter, especially in central/north Portugal! We might have long hot, dry summers but winter months can be horribly wet.

@warzone9122

2 жыл бұрын

Or you could just sort your rubbish public services out instead?

@channelforcommentingstuff4960

11 ай бұрын

as I said, can be dealt with through rapporting, nothing THAT hard... Both us (BR) and them (PT) love to break rules tbh

I moved from Portugal to Florida (US) 7 years ago. I currently work has a construction manager in Naples area and I also do encounter incredible amounts of bureaucracy here too dealing with permits and inspections. We also experience substantial delays in our construction projects due to global supply chain issue. So having experienced dealing with bureaucracy in Portugal prepared me well dealing with bureaucracy overseas 😀.

@chasca23

2 жыл бұрын

The Problem is that they hire purposely incmpetent people in the US and Naples is especially notorious for this. Greetings from Ft. Myers.

@5thdimension625

2 жыл бұрын

@@chasca23 thank the Dems for the problems in FL.

@apollo-pv8rv

2 жыл бұрын

@@5thdimension625 yes let's thank the Dems for the problems in a republican county and in a republican state.

@sheilabrennan4481

Жыл бұрын

@@apollo-pv8rv EXACTLY!!...

@sheilabrennan4481

Жыл бұрын

@@5thdimension625 ridiculous and ignorant statement... we have had Republican Governors since Jeb Bush in 1999, almost 25 years, in Florida.

Muito obrigada Liz, very interesting and looking forward to part 2!

Definitely Part 2! Thank you for Part 1, very helpful.

Excellent video. I moved to Braga from London 2 years ago and I agree with everything you have said (I have made a note to buy a washer/dryer!). I am glad that my experiences in governmental offices have been similar to yours- and you are fluent in Pt! I love your videos BTW - thank you so much for creating them x

Spot on, Liz! Very useful. I vote for a part 2 as well. Obrigada

I'm Portuguese, lived in France, the UK, and now Hungary. A part of me really wants to go back to my country but then the other part just can't deal with the issues you mentioned in this video. Very accurate description of the most annoying things about living in Portugal!

@KryptosChain

2 жыл бұрын

*The issues look similar to Spain. I was thinking to move to Portugal from Spain only because people are nicer in Portugal than they are in Spain, but considering the stress of having to go through everything from 0, I'm happy to just travel there from time to time*

@dorottyaudvardy

2 жыл бұрын

But it’s the same in Hungary no? I am hungarian thinking to move there haha :) I am cold here and the bureaucracy is the same here 😛

@dorottyaudvardy

2 жыл бұрын

@@KryptosChain yeah? I am hesitant between Spain ( i used to live there for 8 years) and Portugal. For the nicer people i opt for Portugal

@dianabernardo1021

2 жыл бұрын

@@dorottyaudvardy Some things are similar in Hungary but the main difference for me is the heating inside. In Budapest, I live in a super comfortable warm apartment, I can even wear a t-shirt in the wintertime. In Portugal, I need at least 3 layers inside the house.

@mathewvanostin7118

2 жыл бұрын

I would say spaniards and latino-maghreb immigrant of spain are nicer and more sociable. Except catalan they are mean i have no idea why 😂 and have a snake mentality. This is something that shocked me in barcelona. The bad mentality of catalans 😆 Portuguese old people are very nice and sociable. They act like a good dad or good mom to you. but the young adults are a bit shy and a bit arrogant. And invite themselves into light bullying if opportunity for it present itself 😂

I lived in Japan for 15 years and never seen central heating or cooling. The house insulation is also almost non existent. Houses are hot in summer, cold in winter. Remember waking up in the morning and the temperature in the bedroom was just 4C. I could see my own breath. Constant problem with mold, etc., etc. Anyway, thank you for a great video and looking forward to the next one.

@krisgrotowski2216

2 жыл бұрын

@Jake LaGotta it depends on the region. In the northern parts the temperature can drop to -20C. When I said 4C I was referring to the temperature in my bedroom, not outside.

@jamescorbett5729

2 жыл бұрын

You've never seen an air conditioning unit that heats and cools in Japan? They are pretty standard. Central heating (radiators) are unheard of, though. The problem she mentions about housing is true though. Japanese houses are built for the summer.

@krisgrotowski2216

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamescorbett5729 yes I was talking about central heating not space heaters/coolers which are common of course.

@jamescorbett5729

2 жыл бұрын

@@krisgrotowski2216 “…never seen cooling” confused me.

@krisgrotowski2216

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamescorbett5729 central air conditioning is what I meant. Standard in some countries.

I moved 4 years ago from Dubai and I can surely relate to the cold homes and patience needed! Now I can smile (mostly) but back then it would frustrate me. More videos on this please!

Thank you for sharing these important tips!!!

Thanks so much for the tips Liz! 🌟

You've got it spot on! Obrigado por teres escolhido Portugal ;)

Lived in the Algarve for almost 9 years, the one thing I don't want to live without is a dehumidifier ......the mold and damp in the colder months is horrible as is the continual smell of bleach, from cleaning it!!!! The dehumidifier really helps a lot. Please do a 'part 2'.

@oneworld1160

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Just discovered them last year, but even running them for an hour a day really does wonders

Yes, please do another video on this subject, thank you!

Thank you for sharing the video! Love all the tips especially the one on getting the paperwork done ASAP!

@TalktheStreets

8 ай бұрын

You are so welcome!

I personally , really appreciate THIS video. The fairytale life is a nice distraction that is so motivating to get moving, but the realities and struggles are real, and should be spoken about with the same amount if passion and earnest assessment. With that said, please continue the dialogue and the journey Liz. I am a true fan and hope to utilize all the wisdom offered when the time comes. Saúde!

Omg yes!!! Ha ha I’m missing my electric blanket, freezing!! Also the folder with ALL your info, ha ha , That’s helped me so much! Everything you’ve spoken about I’ve learnt in a few weeks . Like you say totally worth it to live in this beautiful beautiful place ❤️

Very helpful information! Thank you!

Thank you so much! Yes please, part 2, 3 and 4! 🤗💓

Watching these videos makes me want to go back home. Having lived in Lisbon for 25 years, lived in London for another few years and currently being on the other side of the world.... I must say there's no place like Lisbon, it has everything... food, quality of life in summer or winter, beaches.... why the hell did I leave? 😔

@pedrolopes3542

2 жыл бұрын

Why did you left? Não sei, mas talvez o salário... A ideia de que Portugal é um sítio fantástico é propagada por influencers, mas quem vive em Portugal e tem uma vida normal e um trabalho normal não disfruta de Portugal. A realidade de quem vive o quotidiano é muito diferente, eu diria precária e deprimente... Eu saí de Portugal, passo férias em Portugal todos os anos, mas não me vejo a voltar.

@pedrolopes3542

2 жыл бұрын

​@Jake LaGotta I haven´t lived in Portugal since 2016, so my perception is skewed. However, is easy for anyone to see that the average Portuguese Salary is much lower than the average salaries of countries like Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, Rep. Ireland, Sweden, Denmark, Austria, Finland, Northern Italy, France... the list goes on and on. Portugal has an average salary similar to former USSR countries like Slovakia or Estonia (around 30 000€ per year), however when you compare cost of living, those countries have in average a higher purchasing power. In Portugal the difference in the cost of living between cities is huge, Lisbon is super expensive, meanwhile some towns in the center, close to the border with Spain, are very affordable (Castelo Branco, Covilhã, Fundão) you can rent a decent apartment for 500 euros or a cheap one for 300, but the salaries in those towns are often very low, like 800 or 900 euros per month. Portugal has one of the most expensive electricity prices in the EU, Portugal has one of the most expensive Gasoline and Diesel prices in the EU, has a relatively high Personal Income Tax (between 14.5% and 48%). Portugal outside the large city centers is a very car-centric country with bad or sometimes nonexistent public transportation. In most of the country the economy has been depressed for decades, only recently (before Covid) it gave some signs of some dynamism. The political spectrum is quite depressing as well, the country had some staunch communist that get something like 10% of the votes (no matter what), on the other side of politics there is a neo-fascist party called Chega which has been gaining a lot of support, more than 10% (they basically want to go back to a protectionist dictatorship like that of former dictator Salazar (they are now openly saying it, they even adopted the same slogan "Deus, Pátria, Família" God, homeland, family), however, the country is mostly favorable to the subsidy dependency model (like in a socialist country) with a certain anti capitalist sentiment and wealth over a certain level is still frown upon in many circles (if you get "rich", people assume you did something wrong...). Portugal has a chronic birthrate deficit that will cause the socialist-model social security and pension system to collapse in the coming decades, the debt to GDP ratio is 130%, even tho Portugal along with Belgium are the only countries with debts over 120% that have been able to reduce the debt to GDP ratio since adopting the Euro, so I guess there is a positive point of resilience. I have high hopes for Portugal in 2040 or 2050, I see the possibilities of change for the better, but it will take a new generation of people... Portugal is very interesting for wealthy "expats" that earn their money abroad and do not understand the language or the real social situation of the country... ignorance is a bliss.

@SkarpzHardstyle

2 жыл бұрын

@@pedrolopes3542 Eu também estive fora uns anos, mas para quem tem dinheiro Portugal é um dos melhores países para se viver na Europa.

@amoregratidao3352

2 жыл бұрын

@@pedrolopes3542 nada mudou!!! Voltei em Portugal porque nunca queria ir fora más tive que seguir os meus pais. É difícil ainda mais com este tipo de influencer a fazer este tipo de vídeo que não ajuda nada.

@somerandomchannel382

2 жыл бұрын

i say - experience and the pursuit of carrier. London offers more jobs, salaries and easier way to get into company work. BUT - looking at it from a positive side! Once you gain yearly experience and wisdom - returning back might help you get a remote job or/and a higher office position. Wherever we are at life - our journey is ongoing and should never stop to pursuit happiness, stability, adventures and new knowledge :)

This was great. I think it's important to touch on these experiences of moving here.Yes do a part 2! My husband and are here in Porto. We were watching and nodding our heads at everything you talked about lol. We are learning the practice of patience.

@kylemichard4202

2 жыл бұрын

Hi! I am moving to Porto this summer, currently in Seattle and trying very hard to learn Portugese. Are you fluent in Portugese? If not, how is life in Porto as english speaker?

@zuchs1969

2 жыл бұрын

@@kylemichard4202 No I am not Fluent in Portuguese. My husband is Portuguese and can speak a little so that has helped. Living in Porto you will find a lot of people do speak english. If I can't understand what someone is saying and they can't understand my portuguese I ask "Tu Falas inglês?" If they can they will switch over. Most say " very little" don't be discouraged if they say that. They do speak very well. When I do come across someone who does not speak english or can't understand a particular word, I use google translate to communicate that has work great. Yes it is Brazilian Portuguese but that's ok when you need it to communicate. I also use it in the grocery stores to translate as it has the camera feature to translate labels. It's my best tool for stores! I did take Portuguese classes back in Canada and I am currently taking one on one lessons now. With youtube content like with Liz it all adds to your learning the language. If your stuck on a particular area of the language her you can find a video to just focus on that area. If your on Facebook join the Porto Expat page it is very helpful for so much. Long answer but I hope it helped.

@donncave5144

2 жыл бұрын

@@kylemichard4202 I just got back from my introductory visit; not fluent exactly, but able to manage to some extent, even with people wearing masks. We didn't get to Porto, but we did not find in general that English is universal in Portugal. This is not news, but you know what - we're in Seattle too! Destination not fixed yet, probably in Leiria or Coimbra districts but conceivably in Vila Nova de Gaia.

Lovely video Liz. Thanks for sharing and showing your apartment.

Many thanks, Liz. If could do a part II, it would be much appreciated.

Yes, part 2 please!

Very helpful information. I am looking at Portugal as one of the options to retire to. It is definitely good to hear the day to day realities of living in Portugal.

Management, your sharing is most wonderful. Thank you

You don't need a heated towel rack or a dryer in the winter in Portugal. You just need a dehumidifier. Put your drying rack in front of a dehumidifier and it'll dry in less than 24 hours. (That includes a towel and sheets.) This was my experience living in Braga (northeast of Porto, where there's a lot more cold and damp compared to Lisbon). And as an added bonus, it produces white noise, which helps a bit with the city noise... especially at night. As for apartment temperatures, I put in an A/C system (just like you did). But I made sure to have a wall unit in each bedroom as well as the living room. So I just needed to heat whatever room I was in. At night, that was just the bedroom. Which wasn't very expensive to heat, as it's not that many square meters.

We got a dehumidifier instead of a dryer. Takes up less space and also you can move it about to dry out rooms when it rains for days. We found that the house is warmer (during sunny weather) when we air out the house every morning, because that keeps it dryer inside. Curtains across open doors and large glass windows also help. We have survived ( so far) in a large house, with no heating, towel heater or dryer, but we do have a large garden to dry clothes, wear double bath robes, and bought 2 ton of seasoned firewood, to keep the temperature in the lounge between 18-20 C. The kitchen hovers between 14 and 16, burrrr. We will sort out air con, towel rails eventually. I do feel that having a cool house is better for your health. I have faced this in England too at times. I never get a cold, when living in a cold house. Also you appreciate being outside more.

@TalktheStreets

2 жыл бұрын

Good tips!!

I'm from the UK - well known for 'mixed' weather, but had always been used to lovely warm houses in winter - until I met my Portuguese partner.......my goodness, I'd never been in houses so cold! I thought it a little amusing at first, how when visiting friends and family they'd sit wearing umpteen jackets and scarves.....my amusement soon waned! It's strange in country that has real architectural appreciation - it doesn't extend to the internal comfort of a house. You make lots of good points - and I agree about electric blankets....bliss! Will check out your language videos - I think native English speakers find it almost impossible to make some of the Portuguese sounds.....we just can't find the right place to put the tongue!

@mickyjaguar2282

2 жыл бұрын

It's the same in the south of Brazil. Freezing in winter at night. They do have fire places though. No one ever thinks that it is cold in Brazil but the South is for 3 months of the year.

Such great tips!

So on point!

I moved to the Azores ... can agree on a couple of points .... but the best move I ever made, loving it 3 years in. 1/ Weather - it does not get really cold here even in January/February ... BUT... the humidity remains high and this makes everything feel much cooler and damp. Putting on another layer almost feels counteractive, as then the damp is just closer to your skin! Wood burning stove sorts it though when indoors. 2/ Damp ... mould is a problem and fabrics need airing and cleaning. Anything where your hands have touched will grow mould /: 3/ Insects... interesting. LOL. 4/Chilled pace of life... along with this comes a whole heap of paper work filling, agreed. But just get everything direct debit - getting NIF was not a problem with me as I went to Finances with my 'agent', so yes, agree you need help! Language... whew... don't get me going. But fortunately virtually almost everyone under 35 speaks good English. And older educated professionals. You'll be fine, but of course it is important to try to speak Portuguese, even though you may get the odd laugh and 'diga-diga' :) Your Portuguese sounds amazing, but for me as a retired individual learning conversational Portuguese is very hard. But I can get along OK. 5/ Dogs... yes. But all my local ones shut up after they got used to me. That and an ultrasonic device strategically placed! 6/ Azores specific ... the electricity supply is shall we say 'variable' - it has taken out my oven and hob :( So now, I have a lovely Samsung ornament and awaiting a cheap and cheerful locally common range that will be more robust with fluctuating supply voltage. Now... benefits.... many... over to you!

Absolutely, a part 2 would we awesome!! We are planning on moving to Portugal. My husband is 50% Portuguese and has family living there and he is working on getting his citizenship before we go over to Portugal. We are trying to prepare as much as possible. :)

@miguelluissousadias1371

2 жыл бұрын

welcome

@dsd-downshiftdave8056

7 ай бұрын

Did you Make the move?

@kristenwilkinson1014

7 ай бұрын

Sure did! 18 months ago my husband and I moved here and he just became a citizen! @@dsd-downshiftdave8056

Useful information you have given

Excellent information!

Sim, uma parte dois, por favor! Obrigado.

A big shock to us was that an appointment is not what we know as an appointment in the UK. We got caught out in both the bank and at the Financas offices where we thought being given an appointment for a certain time meant that when you arrived at the given time you would be seen by someone expecting you. In both cases all it seemed to mean was that we were ok to visit that day but we still needed to take a ticket and go to the back of the long queue that had formed because we had arrived at our 'appointed' time rather than opening time.

Thanks again! Great video! The climate I understand pretty well. I was impressed with the climate/weather the two times we visited -- for more than a couple weeks -- once in early autumn and the next time in summer. My wife noticed the lack of heating more than I did but I am sure that it will get plenty colder going into winter, at which point the sweaters and layers come out, of course. As for the pace of getting things done, having done my time in the Caribbean, well, I think I know how that works. All a matter of acculturation, I suspect.

Sim uma parte dois faz favor 😊🤗 Love your videos❣️❣️❣️

I agree. I must say though that the huge queues are a city thing. I have been here eleven years now and on arrival in Aveiro EVERYTHING was SOOOO drawn out and frustrating...going back to offices sometimes four times and each time queuing. Since living in a small (ish) town we can sort most things out in our local camara building and it's a sit down, have a chat,wait a while and pay your fee situation. Residency cert was so different here than in the city. The tip about taking EVERY paper is a top one though. I always find myself asked for bizarre papers I had forgotten I had (junta signed declarations of address etc.) My tips would be similar. If there exists a service to skip the bureaucracy - jump at it. We imported a camper van and a caravan and would have given up if we had not discovered the car import people. They don't even charge that much! Well worth it for preserving your time and sanity. My partner is Portuguese so the language wasn't the problem! The problem is that there are so many rules and regs that no one person can know them all! I know who to speak to in my local offices. They are a walking wealth of info and I give thanks for living in the countryside 😂...

@robinwild1

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, would you mind sharing who the car import people are with us? Thanks

The positives far out way the negatives, love Portugal can't wait to get back to the slower pace, nice weather and no traffic

Thank you for helping the pup 🥰

Yes please for a Part 2! Excellent information.

@TalktheStreets

2 жыл бұрын

On it!

Totally agree with all of your points. I lived in Portugal for 4 years and my parents for 10 years. Your points are exactly what I would warn someone about. Really appreciate the balance you gave to the topic of moving to Portugal. Of course, people want to speak about the positives but it’s super important to keep in mind the negatives. Well done and thanks for super helpful videos.

I had a long way to change plates of my motorbike brought here with me. It took almost 4 months of moving papers around and our small garden house construction will be celebrating it's first anniversary soon. But I wouldn't change my life here for nothing:) Closing laptop and having a glass of wine in the beach bar during sunset is worth everything. I also changed just to slow down my life a little. Bejinhos from north :)

You gave us a LOT of value in just 10 minutes.

I Love this. Thank you!!

Thank you you're the first person on KZread to mention how noisy it can be living in Portugal. Having stayed a few times in Portugal, Algarve, I've always been aware how many dogs are allowed to bark day and night. No one seems to be bothered by the barking but if you're not used to it it's a problem. Still paradise. Great videos. X

I love the comment about having all your bits of paperwork with you, how true! Although it was pretty decent the process of applying for Portuguese nationality in my case. It took time (2 years), but quite straightforward (and I enjoyed using my brand new passport this summer).

@rad0f

2 жыл бұрын

5 + 2 = 7 years total for the passport? Also can you leave after year 5 while you track your passport online?

@michaelrossi6733

2 жыл бұрын

@@rad0f In my case, as my wife is Portuguese, it was after three years of marriage that I can could apply (although in my case we didn't put in the paperwork until 4 years of marriage had passed). So six years in all. As I was applying via that route, and we don't live in Portugal (we live in the UK), I was tracking the progress via an online portal. So, I can't say for sure how it works in terms of applying for nationality on the basis of living there and whether you can leave after five years without having the process complete and still carry on with the passport application process. However, I imagine you'd probably not be able to be out of the country too long whilst your passport application process is going on, i.e. if you were out of the country for a certain number of months a year, it may possibly invalidate the process. But, as I say, given I got mine via the marriage route, I can't say for sure.

@rad0f

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelrossi6733 makes sense, ty for replying. Did you like living in PT?

@michaelrossi6733

2 жыл бұрын

@@rad0f I've never actually lived there, although am a regular visitor! But I do hope to live there one day

Thank you . Planning to join my hubby in portugal . This is useful 👍

Thank you thank you thank you for helping that dog get adopted

I had never felt so glad about being Brazilian as when I moved to Portugal because bureaucracy in Brazil is also a pain, so it almost felt like a preparation course. I could also relate to the lack of heating system overall. Being from the South, temperatures commonly drop below zero in winter and a proper heating system is virtually nonexistent, especially in older buildings and houses, unless you're willing to spend LOTS of money on it.

@miguellemos4669

2 жыл бұрын

Most average appartment has heat. If you live in a below average house most probably not.

@lbingen

2 жыл бұрын

@@miguellemos4669, I think E. Silveira is from the South of Brazil. There, in wintertime, the temperature drops below zero, and most people can't afford to have a heating system.

@fredsmith2299

2 жыл бұрын

E Silveira .... How many people in Brazil I thought you might know ..... It's a brazillion .... and that's a lot ....

@74the_magpie

2 жыл бұрын

You would freeze to death in below 0, are you sure?

@everybodywants

2 жыл бұрын

​@@74the_magpie I never said anything about freezing to death. But trust me, it was much more comfortable for me to live in Montreal during the winter than in Brazil.

I agree with all the points. The bureaucracy is extremelly irritating. Regarding the noise, I've noticed in London I get a lot of noise from Police cars and Ambulances and they are allowed to use their loudest sirens from 6am or even earlier. Emergency vehicles in Portugal have a different siren for day time and night time, not to wake up the whole neighbourhood, just alert other vehicles/people on the road.

Thank you very much for this extremely helpful info. 😊

Really fun videos you're making. I was always attracted to the language and culture, which seems more kind than the Spanish, but it's surprising how beautiful Portugal is, and productive of good things. Nice work you're doing!

The reason why so many Brazilians are going to Portugal is that these issues are the same ones we face here, but with the advantage of being a safer and more stable country to live in. This is the first video I've watched on your channel and I really enjoyed it. Relevant observations and well-organized ideas. Congratulations.

@daypk4690

Жыл бұрын

yeah, as a brazillian I dont really care about having a warm home, I cant even afford heating and cooling systems on my own country!

@dsd-downshiftdave8056

7 ай бұрын

Do you live in Portugal? How do you like it compared to Brazil? What part of Brazil did you live

I'm going for a visit to Portugal in April and I'm so excited! We live in Toronto and thinking of moving to Portugal for the slower pace of life too. The points about the cold and the layering clothing is very similar to Toronto in the summer actually, I'm glad I won't have to think about it too much. But I'm interested, will the towels and clothes not dry because it is humid? In Toronto it is very dry and my towels and things dry quite quickly, I've never seen towels taking long to dry before. The points about the bureaucracy make me a bit anxious but I guess bringing a book wouldn't be so bad! haha

A great video thankyou Dave

Really enjoyed your video, and liked and subscribed to your channel :) Thanks for the useful tips.

Olá! Muito obrigada for this reality check. Portugal is certainly not the only country suffering from the messy web of bureaucracy. I have been trying to get my passport renewed in the US since July. I think your advice about hiring professionals is wise, and it's what we plan on doing. We have set money aside for just these special occasions once we finally move to Lisbon, hopefully in April 2022.

@peters7229

2 жыл бұрын

I recently submitted an application for renewal of my passport here in the U.S. at a post office in Los Angeles and received it in the mail in under two weeks. Was it the pandemic that held it up?

I remember being in Portugal at the height of summer and the beach at Estoril was quite cold with a cold wind blowing but the next day I reached Seville in southern Spain where it was like the Sahara desert and it never cooled down at night either and there was no cooling in the old hotel where I stayed.

@carloscosta7758

2 жыл бұрын

so maybe you should have been in the middle? : p

Great tips, thanks. We're moving over Mid January from the UK 🙏

Thanks so much for this vid, really helpful

O ruido é um grande problema, é verdade. Eu tive problemas em Coimbra, vivia numa "torre" de 12 andares, havia sempre obras. As obras nunca terminam porque os obreiros nao trabalham todos os dias. O problema é que havia varios apartamentos com obras ao mesmo tempo, até tiveram que substituir um elevador e foi mesmo muito ruidoso. As obras nem pararam durante o confinramento. Nao podia sair, nao podia procurar um outro lugar para viver. Trabalhava de noite e tentava dormir de dia. Agora moro num pequeno prédio. Nao tenho a certeza de nao ter este problema, já há obras perto que oiço um pouco mas acho que quanto mais pequeno e moderno o prédio melhor... E também noto a diferença com à qualidade da construçao. Nem preciso de aquecer o meu apartamento (agora pelo menos) porque o prédio é mais moderno e melhor aislado do que o anterior. As vezes a qualidade da construçao faz toda a diferença. Agora gostava de viver numa casa com uma boa conexao a Internet para poder trabalhar. Preciso de tranquilidade porque dou aulas online.

Irish but living here and married to a Portuguese guy, can confirm it's great advice! I cracked up at the "bring all the papers" comment! He warned me about the bureaucracy but I thought he was exaggerating. Erm, he wasn't 🙈

@TalktheStreets

Жыл бұрын

Hah nope!!

@VS-yk3gu

Жыл бұрын

Hi Jacinta, having lived in Ireland and Portugal which country would you want to live in and settle down ?

Great video, thanks for all the info. Regarding drying clothes in the winter, its fine if you have an outdoor space with sun exposure. Our clothes dry in a couple of hours.

Thank you!

Interesting about the weather. I tell people the coldest winter of my life was when I lived in Taiwan, which is subtropical, but during the cold months it rains a lot and there was simply no escape from the cold, even indoors. I grew up in North Dakota in the US, where winters literally kill people who get caught outdoors without proper protection, but at least homes and businesses are heated.

@TalktheStreets

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the thing HAVING NOWHERE TO GO TO GET WARM. Honestly Im so lucky as I have heat and can afford to run it but fuel poverty is a thing here and that makes me very sad.

@oneworld1160

2 жыл бұрын

Near to Leiria I often have freezing ground temperatures from December to February - with 20 at lunchtime. But to see old neighbour widows going out daily to collect sticks and branches for their firewood really gets to me

@LOKI77able

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting! Where did you live in Taiwan? I'm planning to spend at least six months there once the situation gets better and borders open back up. What time of year in your experience would be the wettest and/or coldest season?

@joaoduarteazevedo2818

2 жыл бұрын

@@oneworld1160 I live near Braga and we all have to colect stuff for the fireplace and the fire stove since it's usually the cheapest way to warm yourself

@oneworld1160

2 жыл бұрын

@@joaoduarteazevedo2818 Yes, I also collect what I can from my quintinha, but also buy firewood in addition

Whilst I completly agree with the air conditioner system being a great addition, I just don't feel the same with the electric blanket. I don't think it is essential. More like a personal taste? I did the opposite of you (lived in PT and then moved to London/Cotswolds) and we never felt the need to have an electric blanket. Still, today, November, we still have our Summer duvet at the house. The house is sooooo hot, even without the heating. (Nothing compared to the cottage we were before where I had to sleep with two duvets!) The drying machine is something again, I've never felt it was needed. Either in PT or in the UK. We like to dry our clothes naturally, and the houses never smell of damp. If that happens to you in PT, then it is an old house? Don't know of many places with damp in PT, where in the UK I've seen a lot! We used to hang our clothes to dry and, yes, instead of taking a day, it would take two to completely dry but, I just think they're not essential. Patience is a thing. Really. Really. It is a PITA to be honest. Even for a local. It's bad. Really bad! And that's the difference between PT and UK. In the UK, you have the process. A well designed, thought-over process. And, it runs smoothly. And any one can do it. In PT, there's no process. So, if you get a person on the desk who knows the stuff, you're on a roll. If they don't, they'll have to ask, they just won't know and, because there's no process, it will take time. On the other hand, when things go South, and there;s an outlier situation, in the UK they don't know what to do, as it is not on the process, and they (might) stumble. And, in comparison, in PT, they'll shine (depending on the person on the desk) because they just go around, dig and find loopholes to unblock the situation. So, because of that, I prefer the UK system. 95% of the times, you're sorted quickly and no issue. Whilst in PT, the customer service and the lack of a process just kills it for me.

Thanks for the info! My wife and I are about to move there for a month and this was helpful! Keep up the good work!

@TalktheStreets

Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I totally agree. That’s why I have decided to come back to Rio. No patience to wait months to have the “estores” fixed and not be able to open the window. If you need to repair anything in your house, be prepared to see a shrink!

Liz, as ALWAYS, incredibly informative points! Would most DEFINITELY like to see a part 2 (or 3,4?....you DID say 3 hours lol)

@zanym8088

8 ай бұрын

😊

i moved here almost 3 years ago .. but I solved everything related to paperwork in the beginning … I never ever had problems with the processes but yea sometimes they take longer.. oh yea! and it really helps being fluent in Portuguese.. and have Portuguese friends that have “connections”

@fatimasilva-mc9wx

2 жыл бұрын

You are already becoming portuguese if you know that you need connections- " cunhas"🤣🤣🤣

@atoyebikolade6436

2 жыл бұрын

Can I convert my tourist visa to a work permit or resident permit ?

Such good advice Liz ! Xx

Obrigado! 🤗

Honest video. I lived in Portugal for 15 years. 5 in Tomar, 10 in Lisbon. Had a great time, but towards the end, the never ending variety of noise, especially evenings and night, was soul destroying. Now I'm back in Chester, UK and although I miss my Portuguese friends and certain aspects of life there, I don't think I could ever move back full time, unless it was in some more isolated location 🤔hmmmm?

@sabriel_-

Жыл бұрын

Really? I'm portuguese, I live in Oeiras and it's like, never noisy, I have some friends that don't live here but they don't thinks that their neighborhoods are THAT noisy :(

@glennwhitlock1272

Жыл бұрын

@@sabriel_- hi. I have ex- colleagues in Oeiras!! I'm glad it's not too noisy for you as it's a really nice place to live, but when I lived in Parede it was unrelenting. I still miss it, though. ❤️

@sabriel_-

Жыл бұрын

@@glennwhitlock1272 oh wait are you kidding me? My grandmother lives in Parede! That's such a coincidence!!

@AL_THOMAS_777

9 ай бұрын

Do ya think (by the way: its the same in germany here) that the most poor/sad mob has ONLY the chance to be HEARED ? That all those brainless cretins NEED noise to feel "alive" ? Quasi after4 the motto: "I make noise - so I AM !" (free after "cogito ergo sum") Its just a theory of mine . . .

Youve hit the nail on the head with this Video. Additionally:- Vehicle Matriculation = Nightmare Portuguese Builders = Nightmare Neighbouring AL Rentals = Nightmare But the positives of living here outweighs the negatives.

@francispowell1811

Жыл бұрын

What is "vehicle matriculation?"

@AL_THOMAS_777

Жыл бұрын

@@francispowell1811 Ha ha ha , immatriculation is for students. . . .

So informative.

part 2 please! very helpful!

We've been in our house for two years and (sadly) you do eventually get used to the dogs. I agree with most of what you say about houses being cold, needing lots of patience, etc. but just wanted to add that you can dry washing outside all winter in the Algarve.

@TalktheStreets

2 жыл бұрын

Yesss I am jealous of the Algarve sun! We went this weekend and even in December it is bliss.

@tracyburton3458

2 жыл бұрын

@@TalktheStreets It certainly is ... though we love Lisbon, Setubal and the Silver Coast too. Hope to get to Porto one day soon too. Enjoying the vlogs. :)

@wallihaley5194

2 жыл бұрын

Tracy Burton, it’s very sad to see how some people treat their dogs, which can be an absolute miserable life for that poor animal as well as their human neighbors.

As a Portuguese citizen living in the U.K. for 20 years : all things you said are 100% true . For me the worst of all is : THE DOGS constantly barking on balconies . It drives me insane ….. 🐶😡🤬

@robertp.wainman4094

2 жыл бұрын

That's an interesting comment - I'm from the UK, but my partner's from Portugal, I remember on her early trips to see me - she'd say "Where are all the dogs?" I had to assure her that there were plenty, but most were inside and quiet! As much as I like Portugal and the people, I've seen some dogs kept in really cruel conditions - of course because they're not loved they distrust people.

@louloulapetiterenarde8573

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertp.wainman4094 totally agree 🥲🤬

@AL_THOMAS_777

Жыл бұрын

🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍

Portugal is my favourite country by far, despite my following words. I've lived three times in Portugal, and despite I knew perfectly well what I was going to encounter (I mean, these kind of things), thinking I was prepared for it in advance because I knew such things, and had lived them... it's been always a challenge, and in some occasion I ended up leaving because I didn't have the patience (despite I am a hyper laid back guy). The most difficult thing for me was trying not to get things personal, when you are, for instance, in an almost empty cafe or restaurant, and the waiters take 20-30 minutes to attend you, while they are doing literally nothing, or even looking at you with a funny face. And the same to pay the bill. Or worst: when they do that, and then they start to attend to Portuguese people who come much later than you (this happens especially out of Lisbon or Porto), and if you say something, even politely, they will get angry at you. When that happens every now and again, it is "ok". But sometimes that happens way too often within a short time... that's the big challenge. And when I got bronchitis it took me always longer than a month to get well, because at home it's very humid. So I was always taking care a LOT not to get colds or anything because then you'll spend the whole winter with a feverish feeling. Having said that, it is my favourite country, and I always end up giving it more tries. You miss Portugal after some months being away from there.

Awesome video, Liz!

@TalktheStreets

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

Great and Practical Video Liz! We just returned yesterday from our first reconnaissance trip to PT and noticed many issues you mentioned and heard elsewhere on YT. (Always good to be reminded of the PT lifestyle) We love Lisbon but noticed at least two troubling issues; (1) HILLS. I’ve used maps with ground elevations (I’m an engineer) so it helps somewhat. Any tips other then walking around the entire city to find where the flat areas are located? (2) FLIGHT PATHS. Much of the city seems to be subject to noise from the airport flight path. And on a rainy days, much of central Lisbon appears to taken over by take off noise. Any tips on neighborhoods to avoid this? Obrigado.

@TalktheStreets

2 жыл бұрын

Google maps shows elevation! And I think the worst areas for the flight path are Campo Grande and Campo de Ourique

@Quidproquo1143

2 жыл бұрын

The airport is close to flights in the 00/06 period.

The cruelty to dogs (and other animals) who are left chained or on balconies all day and night is a recurrent theme on expat forums and despite the government changing/making laws which are supposed to protect the animals, many have found they are not enforced (as you found) so are utterly pointless. It is certainly something which can't be ignored in Portugal and very sad that things are still so bad here in this day and age. Yes we all love the country but it is a shame that this problem is so prolific.

Thanks. You have been very kind with Portuguese not to mention competence in different matters and services availability

I will definitely remember this presentation, should I also end up living in Portugal. Thanks Liz!

@TalktheStreets

2 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!!

Uma vez uma senhora duma administraçao disse-me para trazer todos os documentos que tinha porque nao sabia do que precisava :-) E faço isso sempre! Aqui em Coimbra, antes do Covid pelo menos, nunca tive que aguardar muito numa administraçao. Fiz todas as coisas sozinha, sem falar quase nada de português. Nao vou mentir, foi um pesadelo no inicio, mas nao tenho dinheiro para pagar alguém e nem sabia quem contactar. Mas é uma experiencia e fiquei um pouco orgulhosa de tê-lo feito sozinha :-) Agora com o Covid muitas vezes tive de ligar para fazer uma marcaçao na loja do cidadao e nao gosto deste sistema porque sempre sinto muito stress quando devo falar ao telefone. Agora acho que ja nao é necessario e vou tentar voltar à loja do cidadao antes que haja um outro confinamento....

@alvafaleiro

2 жыл бұрын

Eu como português com 43 anos acho que a modernização da administração pública está a anos luz daquilo que era quando eu era criança, todos os serviços ou práticamente todos estão informatizados, existem imensas coisas que se podem tratar a distância de um clique, lembro me de ser criança e de as matrículas na escola serem um horror quando hoje em dia é praticamente tudo automático, os hospitais têm o sistema de gestão hospitalar mais avançado do mundo o Alert - paper free (desenvolvido em Portugal e adotado por muitos países do primeiro mundo). O sistema de pagamentos no MB é altamente avançado (foi desenvolvido em Portugal), qualquer freguesia tem um terminal MB e onde é possível pagar tudo com as referências de pagamento, além disso, agora temos o MB way para telemóveis e é muito a frente (só usando para saber). Qualquer junta de freguesia tem os serviços básicos em muitos casos até compram os medicamentos para os idosos, recebem/enviam correio e podem inclusive tratar de outros assuntos para se lhes for solicitado. Acredito que um emigrante tenha necessidade de fazer prova de vários documentos e isso claro irá irritar as pessoas, no entanto, o governo é muito meticuloso e pretende manter por precaução comprovativos das pessoas que vêem morar para Portugal, nós portugueses não precisamos fazer prova de nada (nesse sentido) e portanto tudo é mais facilitado. Acrescento ainda que o IRS que neste momento é quase automático e permite à maioria dos contribuintes preenche-lo sem necessidade de ajuda de um oficial de contas...

@mmd8075

2 жыл бұрын

@@alvafaleiro muitas vezes as pessoas querem as coisas para ontem.

I made the same decision I was a bus driver in London , and OMG TIRED OF cities , but I'm Portuguese from Lisbon for 46 years 😉 and yes ! Portugal for me is the best place for me after other countries I visited in all Europe . But for some reason you really looks portuguese 🤔 even your accent isn't so British!

@klimtkahlo

2 жыл бұрын

Her mom is British and her dad is Indian. Her husband USA American.

@hugofilmsportugal

2 жыл бұрын

@@klimtkahlo OK

@andrevieira7524

2 жыл бұрын

"Her mom is British,her dad is Indian ,her husband is a born American" . O k. But,there is a chance that all her family are Portuguese descendants related to Portuguese History = "Empire" .... Emigration all over the World . I do agree also that she REALLY looks Portuguese ,and her Portuguese pronunciation is literally 98% Portuguese + 2% "Brasilian".

@andrevieira7524

2 жыл бұрын

@@klimtkahlo If we understand facts ,there is a real one: The actual Portuguese P.M. =Prime Minister António Costa is Indian but he is Portuguese at the same time. Potuguese are MIXED everywhere you go , all over the Planet. Century's of DATA. Portuguese Impire History. Portuguese Emigration History. Portuguese MIX descendants go back for Centurys: Europe,Américas,U.S.A,,China,Russia,África,India,etc etc etc

So informative

Very helpful! Thanks Liz for the honest assessment of the challenges of living in Lisbon. No big surprises here, but well done and good perspective.

@TalktheStreets

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! It was tough to tackle but important i think!

@Festivore

2 жыл бұрын

@@TalktheStreets It's better not to sugar-coat it (and you didn't). But Portugal is a wonderful place and the overwhelming majority of your content makes that very clear, so pointing out the difficulties is quite appropriate in context.

I would love to see a part 2. I'm following several KZread channels about life in Portugal, and have considered basically everything you've mentioned in this. Thanks you for confirming my need to address these in advance. I'm not the type to wait for deadlines, so anything I can do now, I like to get done. It's nice to know what we should expect, and I will be in search of a lawyer to help us. I only wish I knew where to look, and the cost to expect.

@lukeandsarahsoffgridlife

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Allison to find a lawyer I suggest joining a facebook group of the area you are living in or planning to live in. We live in the castelo branco region and there is an excellent group that helps us out with basically everything we need to know from getting a good accountant to finding some fertilized eggs to getting a name of a good shop for buying certain items. Hope this helps

@allison2848

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukeandsarahsoffgridlife wow! That's a lot of wonderful help I would not expect. Thank you. Does the lawyer need to be in the town I choose to buy in, or just the region? For us we know we want to be somewhere in the Algarve. Thank you again for your suggestion.

@lukeandsarahsoffgridlife

2 жыл бұрын

@@allison2848 it probably depends on the lawyer but over here they would not want to travel so far. So we joined the closest biggest city/town.

@allison2848

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukeandsarahsoffgridlife thank you!

@sambotros1918

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukeandsarahsoffgridlife kzread.info/dash/bejne/fXx927auZ5vYhNo.html

On the bureaucracy: it's hard enough if you're a native, gets worse when there's a language barrier. The government has been trying to automate as much as possible, and things are better now that you can do some things over the internet - but when you have to go there in person, you either get lucky to get someone who's nice and helpful or you get someone who'd rather be doing anything else and as helpful as a lump of coal. Carrying all your papers with you is a nice tip - not doable for someone who has lived a life here, but at least the papers that are even vaguely related to what you're going to do is a great help - my wife does that. Greetings from Coimbra!

😍 Beautiful Video

Yes, Part two will be much appreciated!!!