Today I learned that crickets are not a usual noise for many people. Fascinating! Enjoy the analysis!

@Alan_Joseph

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Wait what

@michaelburgarino

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I wish I lived somewhere warm enough to hear crickets year round. Great video!

@EvLSpectre

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@@Alan_Joseph Ferrari video had a nice cricket just singing away. I thought it was my tinnitus acting up at first.

@Tommmmmmmmmmmm

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@@Alan_Joseph in his Ferrari video, you could hear crickets throughout most of the video.

@denny1006

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But Kyle you didn’t analyse at 6:58 two up photos, where we can see that Merc has two “bath tubes”, one like Ferrari and one above pilots head that goes till the end of the car. Why two?

I’m amazed that anyone is even able to design a car conforming to the rules. They’re so full of jargon and gobbledygook that you’d think they’d spend six months reading over just the section on front wing endplates before they understood what they meant.

@michaelironsights8347

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It's okay just make a funny interpretation of the words that gives you an advantage and if the FIA sends a stern letter change it 😂

@dv2735

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If you can’t even read a standard you are a kid. F1 is for men

@wiegraf9009

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Rules lawyering and thinking about how to get around the rules is half the sport!

@georgeretsides4293

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It's almost like they are top engineers...

@cbreazienutz

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I wonder the same thing too sometimes, their so strict…

For the quality, the turnaround time on these videos from car launch is amazing!

The detail you find in these design is second to none on youtube or in traditional media. Sharing so much expertise!

The front wing team at merc really seem to be progressive thinkers. Between the slot gap separators last year that Ferrari have now adopted, and the wing tip - end plate interface this year, they are really pushing out some interesting ideas.

@hisyamhakimi6726

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Hope Horner not complaining 😅😅😅

@chrisc3825

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@@hisyamhakimi6726 I'm sure he already launched a complaint this morning

@Paradi_Flow

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Mercedes have always had monster front ends

@Jeremyevo90

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Ferrari wing tip is definitely illegal as they complaints to FIA of Mercedes using it last year

@ste5425

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@@Jeremyevo90 dude literally on this channel in the ferrari video has been said that it's all legal now

Its going to be super interesting to see the 3 different concepts RB, Merc and Ferrari go against each other again. Hoping they have closed up to each other. I feel like Merc had a lot of low hanging fruit to gain from so here's hoping.

@drummakha2540

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I doubt much will change this year cause Redbull seem to have a hint about the technical changes since they introduced them a coulpe of years ago... Do not be surprised if RB come up with the fastest car this year, that's all im saying

@garrylong2993

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@@drummakha2540 most likely they will. They had the best working car last year, and while merc has to fix issues with their concept rb had time to actually make the car faster

@noduj

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I hope we see some close racing this year, but i think RB will be the fastest in the first few races.

@drummakha2540

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@@garrylong2993 Yes, but last year it was supposed o be new tech changes to everyone and help change the grid order but the only thing that change was Mercedes was slow.. lol just look at how they handled the last two years tells you there seems to be an Agenda for RB and Max to take over. I said it before the start of last year's season that Rb will come up with the fastest car and i was not wrong!! I mean, they came up with a PLUG AND PLAY type of car that works in all circus, tire compound, weather, short or long runs for a team that went fighting till the last lap the year before... and also, the tech changes seems to work best for the high raked car which RB is famous for.. it's all too fishy for me anyway

@oskjan1

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@@drummakha2540 Lot's of speculation based on nothing more than your feeling. It's more likely that BR just chose the best strategy/path from the getgo and that allowed them to hold on to the advantage through the season. It was always going to be RB, Mercedes and maybe Ferrari that would fight for the top spot, but since Mercedes messed up with their aero and Ferrari is Ferrari and does Ferrari things RB walked away. Nothing strange about that!

Kyle, could you please make a video on your thoughts on which aerodynamic concept (from all teams) captivated your attention the most. Which one do you think has the most innovations?

@jerehada

Жыл бұрын

I think you got that in this video. Perhaps Mercedes showed their hand more than the others.

@reveriesduh

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@@jerehada Merc can show their hands much more because their concept is so extremely different from any of the other ones that they don't really have to be afraid of copying. Sure there might be small tidbits but the aero package as whole is not really feasible to be copied by the other teams of which most have commited to the RB design.

@xxxtracionlljllgripxxx2469

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@@reveriesduh very true I do believe the redbull takes some inspiration from the w13 from the track leaks tho which is interesting

@brandonb.288

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@@reveriesduh Bingo. I think it is part of their reason for this strategy also that it may have a higher ceiling than the RB concept, the difference being the RB concept may not be on so much of a 'razors edge' with getting all the tiny tidbits right and race setup completely right. RB has more of a generally safe moderate ceiling concept and Merc have more of a risky design and setup but higher ceiling of performance concept.

Your analysis are always very interesting and detailed. Unfortunately I don't have all the knowledge to understand how vortices work but as you explain it so well the overall effect is pretty clear. I've also seen that they have advanced the cockpit of something like 100mm to the front and redesigned accordingly to that the front suspension in order to move the center of gravity more towards the front.

Amazing video mate!! its nice to see people know their stuff and actually help others to understand too.

I have been looking forward to this video all off-season, it so very much delivered on expectations. Thank you!

You delivered again Kyle! Even though I have no grasp of engineering... I find your inputs just fascinating! Keep up the good work!

It's pretty incredible that insight like this exists that's both super detailed and accessible for laymen like myself. Freaking awesome job, thanks for making these videos.

Nice analysis, excited to see this car on track!

"I feel like Merc had a lot of low hanging fruit to gain from so here's hoping". Yes 🙌, shouting for the Mercedes W14 Dream Team xxx

Well all the analysis we have been waiting for..thanks mate

I always wondered about that exposed floor flex argument. Great stuff.

Thanks Kyle, I was desperately refreshing my browser to see when your post would land...you are the expert, but subjectively the W14 looks much more elegant, probably the best looking car so far. Hope function follows form. That metal stay is an eyesore, though.

You should really check the images of the car while it was being driven in the rain at Silverstone. Interesting stuff!!

Absolutely loving this series ❣️

Thanks for the quality content! Awesome video!

Excellent video, there's a nice shot of the Mercedes I guess from today or yesterday in the wet, can certainly see some better airflow structures around the floor edge.

This channel is unbelievable. Thank you thank you thank you.

Thanks so much for your detailed design analysis. Please do a video about the data from the aero rake track testing, and how it is graphically analyzed.

I have been waiting for this video !!! thanks 🙏

Just discovered this channel and I really enjoy this kind of analysis! Although the majority of people don’t care about this much detail, I think F1 in general could use a lot more videos like this one. During the season; I find myself always wanting to know more about how the upgrade packages they bring will affect the aero of the car. They are always so vague about it. Thank you for this!

sidepod straight from 1995....I somehow like this retro look!

Your analysis are amazing, even thought i don't understand everything you say, It gives me a better understanding of the cars

Great content as always, thank you

Hi Kyle, I really enjoy your overview of the cars and find them quite understandable for the most part that someone following the sport can get a overview on the aerodynamics function (not sure exactly what cranking is on sidepod though). Just for some video ideas on the f1 topic, are you able to do any videos on previous generations of f1 cars particular models that stood out (pre hybrid era)? Also, with regards to Mclarens MP4- X, would the aero improvement gains of enclosed cockpits and wheel fairings be more drag reductive then downforce increasing and just as a sorta random ballpark would you think there'd be a couple of tenths or a couple of seconds a lap yielded from those kind of improvements hypothetically?

been looking for a technical analysis of the w14. thanks for putting this out sir!

i know the high bulky section is on a lot of cars but on the Mercedes it looks very aggressive if you’ve seen it from the rear end shot they gave us on their shakedown run. i tweeted at you a few pictures

the w14 video shows the car running in the wet today. I think the large sweep back above the radiators is designed to keep make the air flow spread across the rear wing evenly. You can see the effect when the drs is turned on and off. Pretty decent effect!

Here I am…watching another video and understanding 15% of it…love the vids

Great video! Would be keen to hear your thoughts on the air intake above the pilot head which I think has changed quite substantially to last year at Merc, as well as the main rear wing design.

As someone who doesn’t understand all the terminology in the first few minutes I thought this video was going to be too difficult to understand but I think you explained it in a way that I could at least understand the concepts and it was so interesting I watched until the end.

Great video as always!

Great detail man.

I think you should make a comparison video between the first race spec car and the launch car. It would be great to see the differences explained very well. I think that's a great video idea too

@CosmicSeeker69

Жыл бұрын

Just bear in mind that he has a business to run outside of YT, and that at the beginning of season many will be demanding his time 🙏

One of the better analyses you got on the 2023 cars! Comparison between teams and impact of rule changes and bodywork changes. Good stuff!

@MP422ownz

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Kyle makes ScarbsF1 look very basic…. Love this channel when the cars launch.

@JippaJ

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@@MP422ownz I wouldn't say that. Kyle is aero only, Scarbs goes much more into whats underneath the aero.

@damiendegrasse8673

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@UN of course it clear when he has a lot less to say.

It's so good to get some actual technical insight from an actual aerodynamicist rather than arm chair waffle and details of what Max eats on a Thursday lunch. Keep up the good work and a genuine "thank you" for the content 👍

The rules are crazy detailed and really tough to even follow all the legality radius etc stuff you mention. It would be nice in your presentation if you could zoom in to the images when you talk about all these Tiny parts

I believe they changed the Center of Mass too because the driver position is closer to the front and the rear portion is more elongated. In doing so and I believe they also changed the position of the PU and the aerodynamic balance more to the front end so they will have more space to work on the rotation of the car with more grip on the front without losing the downforce in the rear ... looks savvy and keen!

Can you do a video about the furniture on the wheel and how the front wing helps them generate outwash with the outer floor fence? The images in the rain show this effect clearly, and I'd like to hear your take on it.

I believe they are actually getting round the 50 mm minimum tip chord (and the 20mm concave radius rules by connecting the element to the end plate above z=170 but below z=190. That way none of the rules which only apply in the swept sections below z150 apply. That’s also I believe how they get round having what looks like a larger than 15 mm slot gap at the top of each element.

Thank you so much!

Dude I love your analysis. I wish I was smart enough to change careers and become an aerodynamicist

Great video. Thank you so much!

I was hoping to hear someting on the "bath-tub" features they have on the engine cover. It doesn't seem to be featured on the renders but when the camera panned around you could see the scoop created where the airbox meets the "cannon" atop of the engine cover.

Thank you for the floor analysis, lovely to see someone that knows what they are talking about. Honestly tiring to see everyone atributing the porpoise to the lack of a big sidepod

well done mate !

Loving your content. Your years experience really shining through in picking out the finer details. If you were a betting man who's your money on this season??

you are the best f1 channel on yt

Hey Kyle nice video again! Howlong does it take you to make a video like this?

Nice work as usual. I really wanted you to explain the bulky section of the center bodywork. Where can I see the explanation of this? Thanks

Great vid, thanks!

I love this! It's like Engineering and being a barrister at once!

7:00 we can see in the 1st and 2nd pictures the huge difference between the 'released' car (photos 3 and 4) and the 'real' car, I notice that the real car has a sidepod like Ferrari with a deep vein in the middle.

I love you Kyle, crickets and all.

I really enjoy your video as always, Thanks ! I have a suggestion : for someone like me who is not in aerodynamic engineering it remains hard to see the overall objectives and why some outwash, vortices effects or anything else would make a car faster. I would love to watch video where you explain some of theses more general concept and general objectives. When I started watching your videos I was kind of expecting "here is how they ensure clean air goes underneath the car and how they ensure it goes away as fast as possible to create ground effect". Anyway, thanks a lot !!!

@PregnantSausage

Жыл бұрын

Good points. I too am in the same camp as you. B-Sport, another aero-engineer (who worked for McLaren, and Alpine) tends to give a quicker more direct explanation to what is going on, if u find Kyle's explanations way to nuanced. Most people sub to both these guys, including BRRAKE F1.

Great informative video once again. Love these tech videos.

Love this stuff. Thank you for the analysis. Kyle, now 3 weeks later post Bahrain, and the huge gap Merc has to overcome, what are your thoughts? Could the downwards steering of the RB sidepods be helping the underfloor? Maybe the large mass of air steered downwards by the RB sidepods could seal off the floor preventing entrainment of high pressure air circulating around the floor edge? Merc with the "zero" sidpod design doesn't have this. Could it be a factor?

Great video as always. Apparently they are nicknaming that top cylindrical body work. "the Canon" on the cars.

All the air coming from the top and bottom of the sidepod end up on floor next to rear wheels, which increases the down force, but all that air bounces off and exit the car through the Wing which is the wing upward force, then the posing will continues at high speed.

Kyle Engineers: makes a series of insightful 2023 car videos that us mere mortals are lucky to get, topping out with the delightful W14 video. 👍 Alpine: why has thou forsaken me. 🤣

Thank you 🥲

I don’t know it you have mentioned this or not…but the cut out on the floor edge..last yr at one of the wet races…I seen a jet of spray coming out from under the floor…that was diverting a vortex away from crashing into the rear tyre.

Only tip I can give is show with wich picture you are discussing is to highlight it, jts a bit difficult to see with just your cursor! Everything else is explained excellently!

awesome video

would it be possible to do some further analysis on this car maybe after testing and speak a but about the double canon exit across the top of the body work aswell as the halo design which proceeds this and follows through all the way to the back of the car. Really great content very easy to understand but has some nice technicalities i can understand been a graduate aeronautical engineer!

@Kyle.Engineers can you do after the test an analyzes over the updates for each car? Thanks.

Just wondering if you're likely to cover the Williams car at some point, seeing as they had their shakedown on Monday with the real thing and there were some positive initial comments made

These cars are the result of attention to some tiny details. Long way from Pete Brock's Daytona Coupe - let's put this 4" spoiler across the back and see how she runs!!! Great video.

We have to see if this is their final design

@christianorsa

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Was about to comment this🤣

@F1ll1nTh3Blanks

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It's already been confirmed that the sidepods are liable to change.

@danielo7985

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It most likely is, moreover, they arent going to change the floor, bargeboards, suspension in a week

@aapokarjalainen7832

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Well they have already been on track with this

@sadface7457

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@@aapokarjalainen7832 Half way though testing they switched to their b-spec car which they continued with the rest of the season

You're are unique on KZread, thanks a lot

Thank you very much!

shape looks fantastic, all i would change is add a touch more silver on the centreline and turquoise on the wings. i think the all black aesthetic will get pretty tiring, and the bare carbon will be difficult to keep looking tip top over the year.

Kyle thank for your analysis of the W14, the car looks impressive, just hope it has no fundamental issues that they can't sort out. Can you tell me around what percentage of the downforce is generated by the floor compared to the 2021 cars, I expected cars to be able to run much smaller wings as I thought most of the downforce was supposed to be generated by the tunnels under the floor. Cheers

Really interesting Video! The legality boxes, were can I find them and play around on my own? I couldn't find them Online.

Hey, Kyle! I have a question, what do you mean when you say something "brings a lot of loss"? Is that drag? Do you mean just a loss of energy in the airflow? Thanks for the vid!

Bro developed the W11 💀💀. Absolute Respect brother

Kyle, have they gone with a more Ferrari style nose? Looking at last years Ferrari and the W14 nose, it looks very similar? Does this give any benefit? Also they have gone with a more swooping effect on the side pod, will this help airflow towards the rear of the car? Great video as always.

how the heck did i miss your page . . . . great info!!! Love the data vs just a bunch of click bait

Thanks a lot for the series !!! I would suggest a video explaining a generic f1 car design so that we can appreciate more what each team is doing, things like what the strakes in the beginning of the floor do, the purpose of the legality boxes, the functions of the side pods.. I always find myself learning new components along the explanation of each teams solution, so what happens is I don't understand any effect or interaction of that component with other parts that you could have mentioned before or that I should have thought myself. A video with the most important components and regulations woulde be really nice. Thanks a lot again, you are helping us appreciate the sport even more. F1 is a very closed sport and we can't enjoy the sport and the performance of the athletes (and the engineers in this case) until we have a (somewhat) good understanding of the challenges and the rules. Cheers !

@qusainalawala1713

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kzread.info/dash/bejne/iGtrkpmzdbufiJc.html Thank me later.

@fstasfck300

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@@qusainalawala1713 it actually has a good level of detail, thanks !

@CosmicSeeker69

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You could try Woulter at Airshaper channel for more understanding. I've learned a lot from him 🙏

You worked on the W11? You goated my guy

Hi, will you analyse the new Marcedes' upgrades and tell us more about how they might affect W14? Thank you!

Dear Kyle, thanks for that amazing explanation. I have one question to ask. You have talked about the turbulence caused by the front tires what comes inwards at the rear part of the car. Once you turne the wheels when driving into a corner you are going to change the way the turbulence’s flows and since Mercedes is suffering grip on the rear and a unstable car in the first half of the corner is it possible that this is caused by the turbulence from the frontwheels that are disrupting the airflow to the back of the car? I know this flow is hard to simulate since it depends on the turning angle of the wheels, speed of the car, wind etc.

There seems to be a huge gulley on the cannon, did I miss you talking about this?

Hey Kyle, could you please use a virtual laser pointer in your videos? It'll make it easier to keep track of your cursor and where you're pointing. I'm really grateful for these videos.

His intro is starting to get stuck in my head, I can't help but say it along with him. Maybe in a past life I was an aerodynamicist for Mercedes for the 2018, 19, and 20 Formula One seasons.

@mesterorange8181

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Well, this comes with a disclaimer that we cant predict airflow with our eyes

@CosmicSeeker69

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Celadon air Extraordinaire¿??

What would be really interesting is for Kyle to produce a video that covers what the underside of the floors possibly look like and how underfloor features affect the local and overall negative pressure, or 'suction' as he like to call it. Last year I noticed a picture of the RB underfloor that had some deep depressions that would have added significant volume to the underfloor area. I have wondered if by having such additional volume of negative pressure the car would be less susceptible to rapid pressure changes and hence, less susceptibility to the porpoising effect. Come on Kyle. Explain how the underfloor volume can reduce porpoising.

@SHANTUBE786

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I 2nd that...

@CosmicSeeker69

Жыл бұрын

The same principle that Colin Chapman used to design the Lotus Wobbly Wheel way back. In his case it was to maximize heat dispensation from the (drum?) brakes

Can you make an update for the recent halo/body upgrade for the w14? Seems quite radical and yet inspired by the SF-22 it seems!

Even with advanced cfd you can't predict all airflow possibilities because you would have to work out the as yet unresolved (even by supercomputers) NS equations. Having said that, merc's last year no-sidepod design provided much of their problems in vertical oscillation, leading to a higher floor and loss of performance to alleviate the porpoising. With the ground effect there's so much suck coming from under the car that they had trouble keeping control of the floor. That's why they put floor-stays, and why they petitioned to allow for the floor-stays to go in. There's a vast area of the floor that because they got such slim sidepods there wasn't much to hold the floor up. Hence, they got more flex, which created a problem to control the aerodynamics in the back of the car. This year they continued their no-sidepod design, we'll have to wait and see if it works for them. Like last year, damping stiffness will be key.

Top quality F1 nerd out content! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

amazing

Well, someone at _Sky-Sports_ said that *Aston Martin* carbon-copy *RedBull Aero* design, and that’s why they are improving.

Consider the air flow under the floor. Now think of the compressibility of the flow and the effect of atmospheric pressure on a highly critical system.

I really love your channel! Could it be possible for you to give us some insight on F1 aero and general car design process? (How is the work divided, how do you decide which road to pursuit, who has the last say on design approval, how do you balance design and validation process, material selection, aero elasticity analysis and whatever else comes to your mind )

You could really see the Mercedes outwash during the filming day in the wet, it was extremely significant compared to the other cars we saw at Silverstone.

Are you gonna make a video about the alpine?

Please make a video explaining why it’s so difficult for this concept to work after todays race

@Gecmajster123456

Жыл бұрын

someone gonna lose his job